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And the actual collusion, between the democrats and Russia comes into focus...

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Here we have a look at the tangled web of democrat collusion with Russia.....the real collusion story...

ERICKSON: Were Democrats Working With The Russians?

Here is where the web starts to tangle. According to Senator Grassley, who wants Fusion GPS's executives to testify to Congress, "Fusion GPS was apparently simultaneously working on the unsubstantiated dossier alleging collusion between Trump presidential campaign associates and Russia" while also working with Prevezon to overturn the Magnitsky Act.

Suddenly it seems more than a coincidence that Prevezon's lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, has a meeting with Donald Trump, Jr. at the time Fusion GPS is putting together a dossier claiming the Trump campaign had been meeting with Russians. But it gets even more tangled than that.

Natalia Veselnitskaya's visa for entry into the United States had expired by 2016. She could not enter the country and a United States Attorney denied her "temporary parole" to enter the country. Nonetheless, the Obama Administration overruled the United States Attorney and allowed Ms. Veselnitskaya into the United States on an expired visa to meet with Donald Trump, Jr.

My understanding is there are generally only two grounds for such permission to be given. First, a lawyer like Ms. Veselnitskaya could show she was the only legal agent of a company currently in court. That did not apply here because Prevezon also retained the American law firm Baker Hostetler, which also has ties to Fusion GPS. The second way is to have a collaborative relationship with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Senator Grassley, in a press release outlining his potential questions to former FBI Director James Comey, notes that the FBI planned "to hire former British spy Christopher Steele to investigate Donald Trump during the presidential campaign, even though the FBI was aware that he was being paid by Democrat political operatives to conduct opposition research on Trump." Steele, you see, helped Fusion GPS compile the dossier on Donald Trump.

It could just be a coincidence that the Obama Administration let Natalia Veselnitskaya enter the United States to meet with Donald Trump, Jr. It could also be a coincidence that her client, Prevezon, hired Fusion GPS to help Russia at the same time Fusion GPS was compiling a dossier on Donald Trump claiming Trump was working with the Russians. And it could be a coincidence that the FBI considered hiring the man who helped Fusion GPS compile that dossier.

It could all be a coincidence, or it could start to paint a new picture. The Russians could have been masterfully playing both sides so that whoever won, Russia came out on top. Mrs. Clinton, after all, claims she reset the relationship with Russia.
 
It's an age old tactic of the left to accuse the right of doing what they themselves are doing. Keep the suspicion on them instead of yourself so no one suspects YOU.
 
I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.
 
It's always been about the Democrats. All you need to do to figure out what the Libs have been up to is listen to whatever they are accusing the other side of! The more indignant and incensed they are, the greater the guilt of whatever they are trying to cover up.
 
It might be of interest to see if the people accused in the OP have changed their stories multiple times like Trump and his campaign members and family have. So far Trump jr has had 5 or 6 different stories about his collusion meeting, and has only changed his story as his previous story was shown to be a lie. I've lost count.
 
I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.


No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......
 
I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.


No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......


Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.
 
I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.


No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......


Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.





An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.
 
Here we have a look at the tangled web of democrat collusion with Russia.....the real collusion story...

ERICKSON: Were Democrats Working With The Russians?

Here is where the web starts to tangle. According to Senator Grassley, who wants Fusion GPS's executives to testify to Congress, "Fusion GPS was apparently simultaneously working on the unsubstantiated dossier alleging collusion between Trump presidential campaign associates and Russia" while also working with Prevezon to overturn the Magnitsky Act.

Suddenly it seems more than a coincidence that Prevezon's lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, has a meeting with Donald Trump, Jr. at the time Fusion GPS is putting together a dossier claiming the Trump campaign had been meeting with Russians. But it gets even more tangled than that.

Natalia Veselnitskaya's visa for entry into the United States had expired by 2016. She could not enter the country and a United States Attorney denied her "temporary parole" to enter the country. Nonetheless, the Obama Administration overruled the United States Attorney and allowed Ms. Veselnitskaya into the United States on an expired visa to meet with Donald Trump, Jr.

My understanding is there are generally only two grounds for such permission to be given. First, a lawyer like Ms. Veselnitskaya could show she was the only legal agent of a company currently in court. That did not apply here because Prevezon also retained the American law firm Baker Hostetler, which also has ties to Fusion GPS. The second way is to have a collaborative relationship with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Senator Grassley, in a press release outlining his potential questions to former FBI Director James Comey, notes that the FBI planned "to hire former British spy Christopher Steele to investigate Donald Trump during the presidential campaign, even though the FBI was aware that he was being paid by Democrat political operatives to conduct opposition research on Trump." Steele, you see, helped Fusion GPS compile the dossier on Donald Trump.

It could just be a coincidence that the Obama Administration let Natalia Veselnitskaya enter the United States to meet with Donald Trump, Jr. It could also be a coincidence that her client, Prevezon, hired Fusion GPS to help Russia at the same time Fusion GPS was compiling a dossier on Donald Trump claiming Trump was working with the Russians. And it could be a coincidence that the FBI considered hiring the man who helped Fusion GPS compile that dossier.

It could all be a coincidence, or it could start to paint a new picture. The Russians could have been masterfully playing both sides so that whoever won, Russia came out on top. Mrs. Clinton, after all, claims she reset the relationship with Russia.

We already know Democrats are investing in Russia, pretty obvious Putin is guaranteeing their return
 
I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.


No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......


Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.





An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.
 
Here we have a look at the tangled web of democrat collusion with Russia.....the real collusion story...

ERICKSON: Were Democrats Working With The Russians?

Here is where the web starts to tangle. According to Senator Grassley, who wants Fusion GPS's executives to testify to Congress, "Fusion GPS was apparently simultaneously working on the unsubstantiated dossier alleging collusion between Trump presidential campaign associates and Russia" while also working with Prevezon to overturn the Magnitsky Act.

Suddenly it seems more than a coincidence that Prevezon's lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, has a meeting with Donald Trump, Jr. at the time Fusion GPS is putting together a dossier claiming the Trump campaign had been meeting with Russians. But it gets even more tangled than that.

Natalia Veselnitskaya's visa for entry into the United States had expired by 2016. She could not enter the country and a United States Attorney denied her "temporary parole" to enter the country. Nonetheless, the Obama Administration overruled the United States Attorney and allowed Ms. Veselnitskaya into the United States on an expired visa to meet with Donald Trump, Jr.

My understanding is there are generally only two grounds for such permission to be given. First, a lawyer like Ms. Veselnitskaya could show she was the only legal agent of a company currently in court. That did not apply here because Prevezon also retained the American law firm Baker Hostetler, which also has ties to Fusion GPS. The second way is to have a collaborative relationship with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Senator Grassley, in a press release outlining his potential questions to former FBI Director James Comey, notes that the FBI planned "to hire former British spy Christopher Steele to investigate Donald Trump during the presidential campaign, even though the FBI was aware that he was being paid by Democrat political operatives to conduct opposition research on Trump." Steele, you see, helped Fusion GPS compile the dossier on Donald Trump.

It could just be a coincidence that the Obama Administration let Natalia Veselnitskaya enter the United States to meet with Donald Trump, Jr. It could also be a coincidence that her client, Prevezon, hired Fusion GPS to help Russia at the same time Fusion GPS was compiling a dossier on Donald Trump claiming Trump was working with the Russians. And it could be a coincidence that the FBI considered hiring the man who helped Fusion GPS compile that dossier.

It could all be a coincidence, or it could start to paint a new picture. The Russians could have been masterfully playing both sides so that whoever won, Russia came out on top. Mrs. Clinton, after all, claims she reset the relationship with Russia.
The liberals here don't care......they just want to live in their usual fantasies.
 
I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.


No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......


Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.


You mean the community leaking information to the press...and endangering national security just to make Trump look bad....that intelligence community? Including the FBI head who leaked to the press.....after letting hilary go for violating the same laws?
 
I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.


No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......


Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.





An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.


Hmmmmmm...seems to me that a paranoid Mad Max....a Mad Max that was actually Mad Max and not a movie named Mad Max but was really a Charlize Theron movie with a guy named Max in it..........wouldn't be traveling so successfully around the world and making friends again with all of our allies.....
 
Here we have a look at the tangled web of democrat collusion with Russia.....the real collusion story...

ERICKSON: Were Democrats Working With The Russians?

Here is where the web starts to tangle. According to Senator Grassley, who wants Fusion GPS's executives to testify to Congress, "Fusion GPS was apparently simultaneously working on the unsubstantiated dossier alleging collusion between Trump presidential campaign associates and Russia" while also working with Prevezon to overturn the Magnitsky Act.

Suddenly it seems more than a coincidence that Prevezon's lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, has a meeting with Donald Trump, Jr. at the time Fusion GPS is putting together a dossier claiming the Trump campaign had been meeting with Russians. But it gets even more tangled than that.

Natalia Veselnitskaya's visa for entry into the United States had expired by 2016. She could not enter the country and a United States Attorney denied her "temporary parole" to enter the country. Nonetheless, the Obama Administration overruled the United States Attorney and allowed Ms. Veselnitskaya into the United States on an expired visa to meet with Donald Trump, Jr.

My understanding is there are generally only two grounds for such permission to be given. First, a lawyer like Ms. Veselnitskaya could show she was the only legal agent of a company currently in court. That did not apply here because Prevezon also retained the American law firm Baker Hostetler, which also has ties to Fusion GPS. The second way is to have a collaborative relationship with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Senator Grassley, in a press release outlining his potential questions to former FBI Director James Comey, notes that the FBI planned "to hire former British spy Christopher Steele to investigate Donald Trump during the presidential campaign, even though the FBI was aware that he was being paid by Democrat political operatives to conduct opposition research on Trump." Steele, you see, helped Fusion GPS compile the dossier on Donald Trump.

It could just be a coincidence that the Obama Administration let Natalia Veselnitskaya enter the United States to meet with Donald Trump, Jr. It could also be a coincidence that her client, Prevezon, hired Fusion GPS to help Russia at the same time Fusion GPS was compiling a dossier on Donald Trump claiming Trump was working with the Russians. And it could be a coincidence that the FBI considered hiring the man who helped Fusion GPS compile that dossier.

It could all be a coincidence, or it could start to paint a new picture. The Russians could have been masterfully playing both sides so that whoever won, Russia came out on top. Mrs. Clinton, after all, claims she reset the relationship with Russia.
The liberals here don't care......they just want to live in their usual fantasies.


I love that vid clip in your signature line...
 
I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.


No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......


Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.





An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.


I don't have to hide in a cave.....I own guns....
 
I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.


No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......


Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.





An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.


Hmmmmmm...seems to me that a paranoid Mad Max....a Mad Max that was actually Mad Max and not a movie named Mad Max but was really a Charlize Theron movie with a guy named Max in it..........wouldn't be traveling so successfully around the world and making friends again with all of our allies.....

Why don't you hit that bong a couple more times, and then try again. Your post doesn't make any sense.
 
I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.


No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......


Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.





An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.


I don't have to hide in a cave.....I own guns....

I do too.
 
No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......


Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.





An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.


Hmmmmmm...seems to me that a paranoid Mad Max....a Mad Max that was actually Mad Max and not a movie named Mad Max but was really a Charlize Theron movie with a guy named Max in it..........wouldn't be traveling so successfully around the world and making friends again with all of our allies.....

Why don't you hit that bong a couple more times, and then try again. Your post doesn't make any sense.


I don't use drugs....only prescription meds for illnesses, such as sinus infections.....I don't even drink...wine.
 
No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......


Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.





An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.


I don't have to hide in a cave.....I own guns....

I do too.


Thankfully the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation and Gun Owner's of America helped us keep that Right....
 
Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.





An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.


I don't have to hide in a cave.....I own guns....

I do too.


Thankfully the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation and Gun Owner's of America helped us keep that Right....

No. The NRA helps gun manufacturers sell more guns.
 

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