And the actual collusion, between the democrats and Russia comes into focus...

[2aguy]

An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.

I don't have to hide in a cave.....I own guns....

I do too.

Thankfully the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation and Gun Owner's of America helped us keep that Right....

No. The NRA helps gun manufacturers sell more guns.

No.....the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation and Gun Owners of America fight to keep politicians from making laws that prohibit owning and carrying guns....the NRA also teaches the police and civilians how to use guns safely......

Gun manufacturers don't need the NRA.....guns sell themselves....

 

[westwall]

I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.

No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......

Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.

An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.

Based on their own testimony before Congress it is pretty obvious who they are in the tank for. Pathetic that you can't seem to figure that out. But, you're a progressive, so no one can accuse you of having a brain.

 

[Old Rocks]

Here we have a look at the tangled web of democrat collusion with Russia.....the real collusion story...

ERICKSON: Were Democrats Working With The Russians?

Here is where the web starts to tangle. According to Senator Grassley, who wants Fusion GPS's executives to testify to Congress, "Fusion GPS was apparently simultaneously working on the unsubstantiated dossier alleging collusion between Trump presidential campaign associates and Russia" while also working with Prevezon to overturn the Magnitsky Act.

Suddenly it seems more than a coincidence that Prevezon's lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, has a meeting with Donald Trump, Jr. at the time Fusion GPS is putting together a dossier claiming the Trump campaign had been meeting with Russians. But it gets even more tangled than that.

Natalia Veselnitskaya's visa for entry into the United States had expired by 2016. She could not enter the country and a United States Attorney denied her "temporary parole" to enter the country. Nonetheless, the Obama Administration overruled the United States Attorney and allowed Ms. Veselnitskaya into the United States on an expired visa to meet with Donald Trump, Jr.

My understanding is there are generally only two grounds for such permission to be given. First, a lawyer like Ms. Veselnitskaya could show she was the only legal agent of a company currently in court. That did not apply here because Prevezon also retained the American law firm Baker Hostetler, which also has ties to Fusion GPS. The second way is to have a collaborative relationship with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Senator Grassley, in a press release outlining his potential questions to former FBI Director James Comey, notes that the FBI planned "to hire former British spy Christopher Steele to investigate Donald Trump during the presidential campaign, even though the FBI was aware that he was being paid by Democrat political operatives to conduct opposition research on Trump." Steele, you see, helped Fusion GPS compile the dossier on Donald Trump.

It could just be a coincidence that the Obama Administration let Natalia Veselnitskaya enter the United States to meet with Donald Trump, Jr. It could also be a coincidence that her client, Prevezon, hired Fusion GPS to help Russia at the same time Fusion GPS was compiling a dossier on Donald Trump claiming Trump was working with the Russians. And it could be a coincidence that the FBI considered hiring the man who helped Fusion GPS compile that dossier.

It could all be a coincidence, or it could start to paint a new picture. The Russians could have been masterfully playing both sides so that whoever won, Russia came out on top. Mrs. Clinton, after all, claims she reset the relationship with Russia.

Were the Democrats working with aliens? One never knows. What bullshit you traitors throw out to cover the fact that Trump Jr. went into that meeting thinking he was meeting with a representative of the Russian government, and was eager to collude with the Russians.

 

[westwall]

An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.

I don't have to hide in a cave.....I own guns....

I do too.

Thankfully the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation and Gun Owner's of America helped us keep that Right....

No. The NRA helps gun manufacturers sell more guns.

No, they don't. They educate people on the safe use of firearms.

 

[westwall]

Here we have a look at the tangled web of democrat collusion with Russia.....the real collusion story...

ERICKSON: Were Democrats Working With The Russians?

Here is where the web starts to tangle. According to Senator Grassley, who wants Fusion GPS's executives to testify to Congress, "Fusion GPS was apparently simultaneously working on the unsubstantiated dossier alleging collusion between Trump presidential campaign associates and Russia" while also working with Prevezon to overturn the Magnitsky Act.

Suddenly it seems more than a coincidence that Prevezon's lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, has a meeting with Donald Trump, Jr. at the time Fusion GPS is putting together a dossier claiming the Trump campaign had been meeting with Russians. But it gets even more tangled than that.

Natalia Veselnitskaya's visa for entry into the United States had expired by 2016. She could not enter the country and a United States Attorney denied her "temporary parole" to enter the country. Nonetheless, the Obama Administration overruled the United States Attorney and allowed Ms. Veselnitskaya into the United States on an expired visa to meet with Donald Trump, Jr.

My understanding is there are generally only two grounds for such permission to be given. First, a lawyer like Ms. Veselnitskaya could show she was the only legal agent of a company currently in court. That did not apply here because Prevezon also retained the American law firm Baker Hostetler, which also has ties to Fusion GPS. The second way is to have a collaborative relationship with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Senator Grassley, in a press release outlining his potential questions to former FBI Director James Comey, notes that the FBI planned "to hire former British spy Christopher Steele to investigate Donald Trump during the presidential campaign, even though the FBI was aware that he was being paid by Democrat political operatives to conduct opposition research on Trump." Steele, you see, helped Fusion GPS compile the dossier on Donald Trump.

It could just be a coincidence that the Obama Administration let Natalia Veselnitskaya enter the United States to meet with Donald Trump, Jr. It could also be a coincidence that her client, Prevezon, hired Fusion GPS to help Russia at the same time Fusion GPS was compiling a dossier on Donald Trump claiming Trump was working with the Russians. And it could be a coincidence that the FBI considered hiring the man who helped Fusion GPS compile that dossier.

It could all be a coincidence, or it could start to paint a new picture. The Russians could have been masterfully playing both sides so that whoever won, Russia came out on top. Mrs. Clinton, after all, claims she reset the relationship with Russia.

Were the Democrats working with aliens? One never knows. What bullshit you traitors throw out to cover the fact that Trump Jr. went into that meeting thinking he was meeting with a representative of the Russian government, and was eager to collude with the Russians.

Yes. The DNC (of its OWN VOLITION) sought out the Ukrainians. That is THE definition of collusion. Funny how you give them a pass because they happen to be your side.

 

[Old Rocks]

I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.

No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......

Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.

An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

So, you, too, chose the path of defending treason.

 

[Old Rocks]

I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.

No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......

Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.

An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.

Based on their own testimony before Congress it is pretty obvious who they are in the tank for. Pathetic that you can't seem to figure that out. But, you're a progressive, so no one can accuse you of having a brain.

As stated before, another asshole defending treason.

 

[westwall]

I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.

No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......

Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.

An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

So, you, too, chose the path of defending treason.

Wrong. Number one it ain't treason (hillarys sellout of the uranium supply might be though), you progressives toss that moniker around a lot. Number two the meeting was a DNC operation based on what we now know of the principles involved, and the only collusion we can actually find is the DNC's. And you don't care, because you just might be a treasonous anti American globalist.

The jury's still out on that matter though.

 

[Old Rocks]

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.

I don't have to hide in a cave.....I own guns....

I do too.

Thankfully the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation and Gun Owner's of America helped us keep that Right....

No. The NRA helps gun manufacturers sell more guns.

No.....the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation and Gun Owners of America fight to keep politicians from making laws that prohibit owning and carrying guns....the NRA also teaches the police and civilians how to use guns safely......

Gun manufacturers don't need the NRA.....guns sell themselves....

And the NRA makes sure that mentally incompetent people can own guns. Isn't that wonderful?

 

[westwall]

I don't have to hide in a cave.....I own guns....

I do too.

Thankfully the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation and Gun Owner's of America helped us keep that Right....

No. The NRA helps gun manufacturers sell more guns.

No.....the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation and Gun Owners of America fight to keep politicians from making laws that prohibit owning and carrying guns....the NRA also teaches the police and civilians how to use guns safely......

Gun manufacturers don't need the NRA.....guns sell themselves....

And the NRA makes sure that mentally incompetent people can own guns. Isn't that wonderful?

It truly is amazing how ridiculous your statements are. You know that that is not what they were talking about and yet you continuously lie through your teeth to try and make a point. Funny how it is your side that is the violent ones.

 

[BULLDOG]

I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.

No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......

Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.

An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.

Based on their own testimony before Congress it is pretty obvious who they are in the tank for. Pathetic that you can't seem to figure that out. But, you're a progressive, so no one can accuse you of having a brain.

Yes it was pretty bad of them to use facts instead of making up a story supporting Trump, like the right wanted them to do.

 

[Old Rocks]

I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.

No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......

Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.

An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

So, you, too, chose the path of defending treason.

Wrong. Number one it ain't treason (hillarys sellout of the uranium supply might be though), you progressives toss that moniker around a lot. Number two the meeting was a DNC operation based on what we now know of the principles involved, and the only collusion we can actually find is the DNC's. And you don't care, because you just might be a treasonous anti American globalist.

The jury's still out on that matter though.

What a lying dumb fuck. The uranium that is mined cannot leave the US. And the company was a Canadian company when it purchased the mines.

So this is the line now, eh? That the meeting was a DNC sting operation? LOL But even if it was, given what Trump Jr. read in the e-mail, and his answer to it, he is still guilty of colluding. Not only that, the treasonous fat senile old orange clown has now admitted to knowing of the meeting in advance to it taking place. Of course, all of our treasonous Russian stooges are going to defend this treason until the principles stand in the docket for their felonies.

 

[BULLDOG]

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.

I don't have to hide in a cave.....I own guns....

I do too.

Thankfully the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation and Gun Owner's of America helped us keep that Right....

No. The NRA helps gun manufacturers sell more guns.

No, they don't. They educate people on the safe use of firearms.

Right. When is the last time they had a press release concerning the safe use of guns? They dropped that just before I dropped thm

 

[BULLDOG]

I do too.

Thankfully the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation and Gun Owner's of America helped us keep that Right....

No. The NRA helps gun manufacturers sell more guns.

No.....the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation and Gun Owners of America fight to keep politicians from making laws that prohibit owning and carrying guns....the NRA also teaches the police and civilians how to use guns safely......

Gun manufacturers don't need the NRA.....guns sell themselves....

And the NRA makes sure that mentally incompetent people can own guns. Isn't that wonderful?

It truly is amazing how ridiculous your statements are. You know that that is not what they were talking about and yet you continuously lie through your teeth to try and make a point. Funny how it is your side that is the violent ones.

Don't be silly. Crazy people buy lots of guns too. Gun manufacturers don't care who buys their guns. Just that they are bought.

 

[westwall]

Thankfully the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation and Gun Owner's of America helped us keep that Right....

No. The NRA helps gun manufacturers sell more guns.

No.....the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation and Gun Owners of America fight to keep politicians from making laws that prohibit owning and carrying guns....the NRA also teaches the police and civilians how to use guns safely......

Gun manufacturers don't need the NRA.....guns sell themselves....

And the NRA makes sure that mentally incompetent people can own guns. Isn't that wonderful?

It truly is amazing how ridiculous your statements are. You know that that is not what they were talking about and yet you continuously lie through your teeth to try and make a point. Funny how it is your side that is the violent ones.

Don't be silly. Crazy people buy lots of guns too. Gun manufacturers don't care who buys their guns. Just that they are bought.

Funny how you progressives like to make up how other people are thinking. And lo and behold you are almost always wrong.

 

[westwall]

I don't have to hide in a cave.....I own guns....

I do too.

Thankfully the NRA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation and Gun Owner's of America helped us keep that Right....

No. The NRA helps gun manufacturers sell more guns.

No, they don't. They educate people on the safe use of firearms.

Right. When is the last time they had a press release concerning the safe use of guns? They dropped that just before I dropped thm

Every second of every day. Which you would know were your head not so far up your ass.

NRA Explore | NRA Gun Safety Rules

 

[westwall]

No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......

Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.

An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

So, you, too, chose the path of defending treason.

Wrong. Number one it ain't treason (hillarys sellout of the uranium supply might be though), you progressives toss that moniker around a lot. Number two the meeting was a DNC operation based on what we now know of the principles involved, and the only collusion we can actually find is the DNC's. And you don't care, because you just might be a treasonous anti American globalist.

The jury's still out on that matter though.

What a lying dumb fuck. The uranium that is mined cannot leave the US. And the company was a Canadian company when it purchased the mines.

So this is the line now, eh? That the meeting was a DNC sting operation? LOL But even if it was, given what Trump Jr. read in the e-mail, and his answer to it, he is still guilty of colluding. Not only that, the treasonous fat senile old orange clown has now admitted to knowing of the meeting in advance to it taking place. Of course, all of our treasonous Russian stooges are going to defend this treason until the principles stand in the docket for their felonies.

And the fact still remains that it took a State Dept approval, which was not forthcoming till the clinton crime family foundation receive a multi million dollar bri...er "donation".

And I find it amusing that you can't seem to grasp the concept of shell corps who's job is to hide the true owners from dupes, like you.

 

[westwall]

No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......

Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.

An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

Right. The first US presidency with a paranoid MAD MAX mentality. Go hide in a cave somewhere if you're that nuts.

Based on their own testimony before Congress it is pretty obvious who they are in the tank for. Pathetic that you can't seem to figure that out. But, you're a progressive, so no one can accuse you of having a brain.

Yes it was pretty bad of them to use facts instead of making up a story supporting Trump, like the right wanted them to do.

Really? All I heard from them was "NO". Pretty much every question that was asked in a public hearing was NO. Because they could be brought up on charges by Congress. But privately, they have been a leaking sieve geared wholly on the destruction of the trump admin.

You're a fool. But a progressive fool so that stands to reason.

 

[toobfreak]

changed their stories multiple times like Trump and his campaign members and family have.

OK. I'll go on e record as saying that Trump isn't perfect.

What are Trump's liabilities?

He has insecurities. He plays fast and loose with the words sometimes not out of an overt desire to deceive as much as to cover up some things to himself. That might lead him to mislead others. Words are key to negotiations and he uses them as a tool to get a deal closed. It is very important to his self-image that he succeed. He is afraid of change, even stubborn about some things; it can girdle his thinking. He is generally not freely giving of his time, ideas, possessions and opinions, though he will share them when asked. He takes both criticism and compliments very very deeply, so he will never forget an insult. His depth of feeling runs to the deeply sensual and he has great appreciation of those things that appeal to the senses. That may include food, music, art, but so much so that his sensuous nature may run to sexuality. He is passionate about what he does.

But what about his assets?

He has a soaring, analytical mind. He desires to go far out there and see for himself, look over the edge where others have not been, then to sift and weigh and draw his own conclusions about what he's found. Add to that a very keen penetrating comprehension. His thought is independent of the approval of others and is buoyed by a need for order and regularity in his thinking and life. He avoids getting pinned down in case new facts or situations force him to change his opinion or stance at a later date. He tries to look at things objectively, but never without an empathy towards others. His self-image is everything and will never forget a favor or a friend. If he owes you $5, he will go to the ends of the world to pay you back.

Conclusions: Expect a man that is ruled by an exploring, sagacious mind grounded in a very strong, emotional memory. He greatly relies on his emotional memory of past experiences to guide him in the present. While his mind isolates him somewhat from others, his depth of feeling helps keep him grounded. Expect a man that will be evasive and rather hard to pin down in the present, but once there, he is a man of his word and principle. This is a man very quick to think fast on his feet, facile in language, plays his cards close to his chest, yet with enormous resolve and determination to get things done and pushes through to his goals by sheer force of will.

 

[2aguy]

I guess it could be any of the things you mention, but more likely this is just a pathetically desperate effort for Trump to discredit the people who are exposing his traitorous collusion with Russia.

No...it is exactly that, except for the desperate part....he was trying to get dirt on hilary, since the Justice Department wasn't going to do their job......

Really? First American president that refuses to believe the vast information gathering capabilities of the US security agencies, but instead takes his info from Alex Jones.

An intel community wholly owned by the progressives, so yeah, not a good source for him.

So, you, too, chose the path of defending treason.

Please...explain what they did that was treason.....

Did they sell U.S. technology to China? as the clinton's did in the 90s?