Ann Coulter and lefty lies about immigration and crime...

[NYcarbineer]

This is a crazy right winger's thread. Don't confuse everybody with facts.

More deflection? What facts have you offered except to kill the messenger?

No need to kill the messenger. If he falls for Coulter's crap, he's brain dead anyway.

Is that what MSNBC or media matters told you or even the democrat underground for that matter?

Have you read any of her books? I have just like I read all of Al Franklin books.

Its childish saying she is a guy, just like it is childish that some on the right say Michelle is a guy.

Refute the OP not the messenger.

Coulter's rantings are no more worthy of discussion than limbaugh's are. Anything that stupid is only worthy of ridicule. That includes the pathetic fools who present anything those two spew as anything but rediculous.

Allow me to translate: I can see that her stats are solid...so I will just say she rants...and move on.....because I don't want to keep any attention on the truth any longer than necessary......it makes me look stupid....

What stats? She makes reference to a FBI crime statistics but never sources them.

What stats?

 

[NYcarbineer]

That's why I never attack the messenger, just the message in a debate, because it's childish

And if you read my posts on here, when I find out it is a liberal woman poster , I back off and stop flaming her because I want to her what she has to say.

Welcome to the forum, Galavant.

 

[Wyatt earp]

That's why I never attack the messenger, just the message in a debate, because it's childish

And if you read my posts on here, when I find out it is a liberal woman poster , I back off and stop flaming her because I want to her what she has to say.

Welcome to the forum, Galavant.

we'll you know first hand I am like that

 

[Ava]

The meme has been set by the left.....immigrants are all hard working people who only come here for a better life...and anyone who says differently, or points out the truth, reality is a racist.......so stop talking about crime committed by immigrants.....

And here we have Ann Coulter....speaking the truth and pointing out reality.....

Ann Coulter - July 15 2015 - EVERY PRO-IMMIGRATION CLAIM IS A LIE

Pew cites their studies -- and everyone in the media cites Pew, leading to headlines like these:

"UT Dallas prof finds immigrant kids less likely to commit serious crimes, re-offend" -- The Dallas Morning News

"UMass Boston Prof: Stereotype of 'Criminal Immigrant' Doesn't Hold Up" -- Targeted News Service

"Surprise! Donald Trump is wrong about immigrants and crime" -- The Washington Post

Curiously, we are never shown the actual studies, but simply told -- with some heat -- "studies show!"

I looked up some of these alleged studies this weekend. They're all hidden behind ridiculous Internet paywalls. I was often only the sixth person to read them.

It turns out that neither Piquero nor Bersani compared immigrant crime to "the overall population" -- as the British Guardian recently claimed in an article purporting to prove Donald Trump wrong. Rather, they compare immigrants' crime rate to the crime rate of America's most criminally inclined subgroups.

Thus, for example, once you get past the paywall, you will find that Piquero and Bersani's joint study, "Comparing Patterns and Predictors of Immigrant Offending Among a Sample of Adjudicated Youth," used as its base group "adolescents who were found guilty of a serious offense."

THAT'S NOT A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF AMERICANS! It's a representative sample of teenagers who are convicted criminals.

Similarly, professor Bersani's oft-cited, but never-read study, "An Examination of First and Second Generation Immigrant Offending Trajectories," looked at a population group that included "an over-sample of Hispanic and African-American youth."

Instead of immigrants who are less crime-prone than our native blacks and Hispanics, we were hoping for immigrants less criminal than our Norwegians.

True, as Bersani explains, "because many immigrants initially settle in disadvantaged environments and are exposed to a number of crime-inducing risk factors, their experiences may be similar to many native-born minorities -- particularly the African-American population."

But here's an idea: How about NOT taking in immigrants who are poor, uneducated, come from dysfunctional families and settle in disadvantaged environments?

OR....anymore Muslims, Ann. Just look at how many are here and are coming here and where they have and are settling, and talk about food stamps??? Give the legal Muslim immigrants an invitation to come to America's shores and unlike illegal immigrants, legal immigrants invited into the United States receive green cards and are granted automatic work permits, welfare access, and the ability to become voting citizens.

Check out all the stats.....sources included, right here: Can we say Welcome Sharia Law?

Immigration to Swell U.S. Muslim Population to 6.2 Million

Snip:

According to U.S. Census Data, the United States admits roughly 100,000 Muslim immigrants legally each year, representing the fastest growing block of immigration into the United States. Tennessee, in fact, is home to one of the fastest growing immigrant populations in the country, causing the President to give a recent speech there in favor of expansive immigration. The Mayor of Nashville has launched a New American Advisory Council to help facilitate the legally-sanctioned transition from the previous inhabitants of Nashville to the new ones.

Immigration to Swell U.S. Muslim Population to 6.2 Million - Breitbart

 

[g5000]

Ann Coulter is Donald Trump in drag. Or his soul mate. One or the other.

 

[g5000]

Ann Coulter wouldn't know truth if it took a bite out of her Adams Apple.

Allow me to translate: She actually told the truth and I can't dispute it....so I'll attack her personally.....

After a while you just get tired of debunking Coulter, and realize it is a waste of time since rubes like you line up for refills of your piss cups anyway.

You deserve to be lied to.

 

[Darkwind]

This is a crazy right winger's thread. Don't confuse everybody with facts.

speaking of "FACTS" do you know of any ?

Plenty of them, but crazy right wingers can't deal with them. If you couldn't understand them so far, there is no reason to believe you will gain that ability now.

So....you have none......got it..

 

[evince]

Ann Coulter wouldn't know truth if it took a bite out of her Adams Apple.

Allow me to translate: She actually told the truth and I can't dispute it....so I'll attack her personally.....

truth needs FACTS to back it.

you don't know what constitutes a fact