Another Anti-Gay Christian Conservative Caught Smoking A Pole

[TheOldSchool]

If you were raised in a culture that would abandon you and hurl hatred at you for being honest, then yes.

I am in a culture that hurls hate at me for saying what I actually believe in.

There are plenty of cultures that agree with you about gay people. There’s nothing stopping you from joining them. A plane ticket to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan isn’t that expensive.

I have no plans to abandon my nation to the destruction it faces while i have breath and freedom to act

You are one of the people forcing gay people in your community to live in crippling fear. You are not a victim.

Fear of what? The truth?

Everyone has weaknesses. We all have the choice to admit them or not. We also have a choice whether to continue giving into them or making a better choice. That's the beauty of being human, we can overcome our default nature.

You can choose to stop forcing gay people, like the one in the OP, to live in crippling fear. Of course, that guy could have also chosen to tell people like you to go fuck yourself and went off to live his life as who he is.

 

[Dragonlady]

A culture of anti gay bigotry, thats what

We live in a culture that praises homosexuality

That’s not true either. Honesty is praised. Being open and true to who you really are is praised. Homosexuality isn’t being praised, it’s being accepted.

Those who remain closeted and hide their true selves are unhappy, frightened and hard on everyone around them. I think of what my brother-in-law went through when his wife revealed her affair with another woman after 17 years of marriage. He moved out and his wife’s girlfriend moved in. Their two teenage sons’ lives were completely up-ended.

Sexual orientation issues are the single biggest reason for teen suicides. If society in general was more accepting of gays, that rate would go down.

It's not the dishonesty about it that is driving the suicide rate. The rare is just as hide in societies that are fine with homosexuality. And its just as high with open and honest homosexuals.

The issue is the mental illness along with it. You cant do wrong and feel good about it. And if you engage is negative and deviant behavior long enough it effects your mental health

you call being gay...negative and deviant


thats your problem, not society's and it answers your original question succinctly

Homosexual behavior is negative and deviant.

Healthy behavior doesn't lead to suicide.

Homosexual behaviour doesn’t lead to suicide. Being taught that being a homosexual is wrong or deviant and absorbing that message, leads to suicide. Being bullied, denied service, refused rental accommodations or fired because you’re gay, leads to suicide. Being tossed out of your church, your family or your community because you’re gay leads to suicide.

There have been gays among every society and among animals throughout history. God made gays and God doesn’t make mistakes.

 

[Zander]

"crippling fear" ..oh my!!

Leftwingers see everyone as a victim......some married guy gets his knob polished and he's now "a gay man living in Crippling fear"....

Make up your fucking minds...either being gay is normal or it isn't.

 

[ClosedCaption]

What is it with these peoples. Is being honest about what you believe really so difficult?

If you were raised in a culture that would abandon you and hurl hatred at you for being honest, then yes.

I am in a culture that hurls hate at me for saying what I actually believe in.

Oh god, do you ever let an opportunity pass that you DO NOT claim you are a victim? Sheesh...someone call Elizabet Taylor for her close up.

 

[bodecea]

"crippling fear" ..oh my!!

Leftwingers see everyone as a victim......some married guy gets his knob polished and he's now "a gay man living in Crippling fear"....

Make up your fucking minds...either being gay is normal or it isn't.

Gay bashing is a thing....so is firing gays (still legal in many states) for being gay. And gay parents can still lose their children in divorce settlements in this country.....

 

[G.T.]

We live in a culture that praises homosexuality

That’s not true either. Honesty is praised. Being open and true to who you really are is praised. Homosexuality isn’t being praised, it’s being accepted.

Those who remain closeted and hide their true selves are unhappy, frightened and hard on everyone around them. I think of what my brother-in-law went through when his wife revealed her affair with another woman after 17 years of marriage. He moved out and his wife’s girlfriend moved in. Their two teenage sons’ lives were completely up-ended.

Sexual orientation issues are the single biggest reason for teen suicides. If society in general was more accepting of gays, that rate would go down.

It's not the dishonesty about it that is driving the suicide rate. The rare is just as hide in societies that are fine with homosexuality. And its just as high with open and honest homosexuals.

The issue is the mental illness along with it. You cant do wrong and feel good about it. And if you engage is negative and deviant behavior long enough it effects your mental health

you call being gay...negative and deviant


thats your problem, not society's and it answers your original question succinctly

Homosexual behavior is negative and deviant.

Healthy behavior doesn't lead to suicide.

Homosexual behaviour doesn’t lead to suicide. Being taught that being a homosexual is wrong or deviant and absorbing that message, leads to suicide. Being bullied, denied service, refused rental accommodations or fired because you’re gay, leads to suicide. Being tossed out of your church, your family or your community because you’re gay leads to suicide.

There have been gays among every society and among animals throughout history. God made gays and God doesn’t make mistakes.

Telling homosexuals that they are negative and deviant is what's negative and deviant.

I was with you until the god part being an agnostic and all

 

[Avatar4321]

It must be so depressing for some to watch gay people continue to make strides in this country.

What strides? This entire thread has people clamoring about how oppressed homosexuals are when I pointed out our culture doesn't have a problem with homosexuals. Which is it? Has our culture made strides or is opprsssing them?

I swear our society is getting more and more schizophrenic. We praise pornography exploiting women and sexual deviancy in media, and then get morally outraged that people are found to be sexually deviant and exploiting women in society. Homosexuals have made great strides and yet somehow they are more oppressed than ever and its unsafe foe them to admit being homosexual.

Sooner or later we will have to face the truth that our behavior and thoughts has an effect on the society we have. And no one is responsible for what we do other than ourselves.

It's time to be honest. Be kind. Be forgiving. To value the truth. Face up to our responsibilities.

 

[Zander]

"crippling fear" ..oh my!!

Leftwingers see everyone as a victim......some married guy gets his knob polished and he's now "a gay man living in Crippling fear"....

Make up your fucking minds...either being gay is normal or it isn't.

Gay bashing is a thing....so is firing gays (still legal in many states) for being gay. And gay parents can still lose their children in divorce settlements in this country.....

The OP denigrates "perfectly normal" homosexual sex, is that gay bashing?

 

[Avatar4321]

That’s not true either. Honesty is praised. Being open and true to who you really are is praised. Homosexuality isn’t being praised, it’s being accepted.

Those who remain closeted and hide their true selves are unhappy, frightened and hard on everyone around them. I think of what my brother-in-law went through when his wife revealed her affair with another woman after 17 years of marriage. He moved out and his wife’s girlfriend moved in. Their two teenage sons’ lives were completely up-ended.

Sexual orientation issues are the single biggest reason for teen suicides. If society in general was more accepting of gays, that rate would go down.

It's not the dishonesty about it that is driving the suicide rate. The rare is just as hide in societies that are fine with homosexuality. And its just as high with open and honest homosexuals.

The issue is the mental illness along with it. You cant do wrong and feel good about it. And if you engage is negative and deviant behavior long enough it effects your mental health

you call being gay...negative and deviant


thats your problem, not society's and it answers your original question succinctly

Homosexual behavior is negative and deviant.

Healthy behavior doesn't lead to suicide.

Homosexual behaviour doesn’t lead to suicide. Being taught that being a homosexual is wrong or deviant and absorbing that message, leads to suicide. Being bullied, denied service, refused rental accommodations or fired because you’re gay, leads to suicide. Being tossed out of your church, your family or your community because you’re gay leads to suicide.

There have been gays among every society and among animals throughout history. God made gays and God doesn’t make mistakes.

Telling homosexuals that they are negative and deviant is what's negative and deviant.

I was with you until the god part being an agnostic and all

Behavior isn't identity. As long as you conflate the two there will be struggles

 

[mdk]

It must be so depressing for some to watch gay people continue to make strides in this country.

What strides? This entire thread has people clamoring about how oppressed homosexuals are when I pointed out our culture doesn't have a problem with homosexuals. Which is it? Has our culture made strides or is opprsssing them?

I swear our society is getting more and more schizophrenic. We praise pornography exploiting women and sexual deviancy in media, and then get morally outraged that people are found to be sexually deviant and exploiting women in society. Homosexuals have made great strides and yet somehow they are more oppressed than ever and its unsafe foe them to admit being homosexual.

Sooner or later we will have to face the truth that our behavior and thoughts has an effect on the society we have. And no one is responsible for what we do other than ourselves.

It's time to be honest. Be kind. Be forgiving. To value the truth. Face up to our responsibilities.

Gays have made numerous strides in this country over the last 50 years. The fact that we don't throw them in jail for having consensual sex anymore is a pretty big one. There are pockets in this nation that still want and do oppress gay people, but they are not as powerful as they used to be.

 

[DrLove]

Homosexual behavior is negative and deviant.

Healthy behavior doesn't lead to suicide.

And if I read even ONE more of your posts - that too may lead to suicide.

See ya

 

[mdk]

Behavior isn't identity. As long as you conflate the two there will be struggles

Sure it is. You're LDS, no? Isn't that behavior also and an identity?

 

[DrLove]

"crippling fear" ..oh my!!

Leftwingers see everyone as a victim......some married guy gets his knob polished and he's now "a gay man living in Crippling fear"....

Make up your fucking minds...either being gay is normal or it isn't.

Being gay is not a choice asshole

 

[Avatar4321]

I am in a culture that hurls hate at me for saying what I actually believe in.

There are plenty of cultures that agree with you about gay people. There’s nothing stopping you from joining them. A plane ticket to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan isn’t that expensive.

I have no plans to abandon my nation to the destruction it faces while i have breath and freedom to act

You are one of the people forcing gay people in your community to live in crippling fear. You are not a victim.

Fear of what? The truth?

Everyone has weaknesses. We all have the choice to admit them or not. We also have a choice whether to continue giving into them or making a better choice. That's the beauty of being human, we can overcome our default nature.

You can choose to stop forcing gay people, like the one in the OP, to live in crippling fear. Of course, that guy could have also chosen to tell people like you to go fuck yourself and went off to live his life as who he is.

I'm not forcing anyone into anything. If you live in fear, it's your own choice.

Btw I couldn't have planned the responses better. You guys have demonstrated my point that homosexual behavior, fornication and adultery are welcome in society. It's standing against those things that is counter culture.

 

[Avatar4321]

"crippling fear" ..oh my!!

Leftwingers see everyone as a victim......some married guy gets his knob polished and he's now "a gay man living in Crippling fear"....

Make up your fucking minds...either being gay is normal or it isn't.

Being gay is not a choice asshole

Acting on your impulses is.

 

[Dragonlady]

I realize that not everyone is religious but one of the most common misconceptions is that ALL Christians oppose rights for gays and that’s simply not true. Not all of those who call themselves Christians, believe that homosexuality is a sin.

Evangelicals, when cornered on their bigotry will always dismiss you as a Godless heathen with no morals. I like to provide arguments that suggest that God loves queers too.

I’ve read some Bible studies that suggest that the passage of homosexual denunciation in the Bible quoted most often by evangelicals, is a mis-translation from the original Greek.

I have no problem with atheism or agnostics but discussions with evangelicals always come back to “the Bible says” well there all are kinds of arguments to be made about what the Bible says, not the least of which is that God’s Laws - The 10 Commandments, say nothing about homosexuality. Lying, stealing, murder, adultery, jealousy, and blasphemy, nothing about homosexuality.

 

[Zander]

"crippling fear" ..oh my!!

Leftwingers see everyone as a victim......some married guy gets his knob polished and he's now "a gay man living in Crippling fear"....

Make up your fucking minds...either being gay is normal or it isn't.

Being gay is not a choice asshole

Where did I say it was?

 

[BulletProof]

Another fag Republican. Good riddance.

 

[Zander]

Another fag Republican. Good riddance.

Is being a "fag" bad then? or perfectly normal?

 

[g5000]

"crippling fear" ..oh my!!

Leftwingers see everyone as a victim......some married guy gets his knob polished and he's now "a gay man living in Crippling fear"....

Make up your fucking minds...either being gay is normal or it isn't.

Being gay is not normal.

Neither is eating the recommended daily amounts of fruits and vegetables.

Being gay is NOT WRONG. That's what you need to get straight (no pun intended).