Paul Essien
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I'm not ranting. That's just your attempt at trying to come across as the neutral sober minded one. And notice the difference the way I debate.There is a difference between what is a fact and what is true.I presented facts, all relevant to what I posted and the FACTS I provided were in context, they included the entire study.
Let me explain to you what a fact is
A scientific fact is that rain water freezes at 0°C at a pressure of 1 bar.
Why ? Because there’s no human choice involved. It’s observable and reproducible anywhere by anybody in the exact same way.
But yet you throw around concepts that have no constant repeatability everywhere you try to reproduce the experiment or apply the theoretical claim.
In natural science, only one single significant deviation is enough to render the claim at least disputable, at worst invalid.
I'll say this again
In natural science, only one single significant deviation is enough to render the claim at least disputable, at worst invalid.
You are trying to make an absolutist claim by using extremely relative variables – variables, which (as should be obvious by now) they can’t even be bothered to define in relativist fashion.
Your argument works (to the extent that it works) on the force of rhetoric alone simply because so many people naturalize race and can’t conceive that such an important thing could be constructed by anything other than transhuman divine providence (or Mother Nature, take your pic)
In neurology no one takes IQ seriously. It is archaic and only really useful to social scientists. Neurologists who have a better understanding of how the brain works because they spend decades of their lives studying it have little to no use for it, but to the public at large it is so important.
Why is that ?
Alfred Binet created IQ test’s to see which children weren’t profiting from the Parisian school system, not so that they could be labelled stupid but so new educational programs could be created to help those children.
I think he was physic because he was afraid that his tests would be misused for nepharious reasons and he could not have been more right, because once the certain people got a hold of it, it took on a whole new meaning.
But if you still want to persist with this then if you are trying to ground IQ as a genetic product of race the very first thing you NEED to do is offer up a genetic or biological definition of race,
Something no one has not done nor has any study. But I always, sit back, invite guys like you to me give such a definition. Mainly because their fumbling attempts to define race point out just how subjective such definitions are.
In close to a decade of debating race and IQ and genetics.
I have yet to see any one of them, no matter what their scientific c credentials, offer up an acceptably neutral definition of race.
No-one has shown that human variation is great enough to account for differences of IQ, nor has anyone established the veracity of IQ as a legitimate measurement.
No one has provided an inextricable link between genetics, race, and IQ outside of methodologically flawed correlations. They make the claim, then they prove the claim.
The fact that they or you are incapable of doing so makes my life very easy.
Which are those “races” then, purely scientifically speaking and in clear text ? What are the precise genetic criteria for making this classification ?
Those questions can obviously only be answered in arbitrary dimensions which are man-made constructs according to human perception alone. However you twist it, you will run in circles and eventually spiral back into concepts based on human perception alone.
These are FACTS. You, on the other hand, posted a RANT.
fact
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facts (plural noun)
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antonyms:
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the truth about events as opposed to interpretation.
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rant
[rant]
VERB
rants (third person present) · ranted (past tense) · ranted (past participle) · ranting (present participle)
NOUN
- speak or shout at length in a wild, impassioned way.
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rants (plural noun)
Don't blame me if you don't like the FACTS. That sounds like a personal problem.
I attack your message, not the messenger.