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Oh, and just to inform you, that photo was from an airline commercial that poked fun at not only Westerners, but anyone that wasn't Asian. It was pulled and since apologized for. Using that to try and get your point across was not all that smart.
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Kajune,
Yes, I did sign up just to reply to this post. I also understand that you feel very strongly about your stance, and I probably will do very little to change your mind about this fact. I have studied anime from an academic standpoint and agree that, despite hair or eye color, that most anime characters are Asian. What I am going to do is simply name a few manga and anime that feature western characters. These are characters which are explicitly stated to be of non-asian descent in the narrative.
1. Oscar, Marie, and most of the characters from Rose of Versailles. Yes, I'll start with the classic, especially since Marie Antoinette was a real person, who was really French. The author of this lovely series is not shy about the casts origins as it is a historical drama.
2. Victorique from Gosick. Another great anime. This one is very simply because the main character Kujo, who is japanese, is considered the extreme foreigner in this situation. Granted, the setting for this one is another fictional kingdom, however it can be inferred by the relevance of the Russo-Japanese war that they are part of the, at one point, Russian states.
3. Palco Folgore from Zatch Bell. The stereotypical westerner. Seriously, do you really want to claim him? Though he is awesome, he is also a murderer.
I could go on more, but that would be unnecessarily long winded. You absolutely have the right to voice your opinion, but please do a bit more research before you make overreaching statements.
You are INCREDIBLY racist... So because we don't look like an asian person, you are going to discriminate against us and tell us that we aren't allowed to dress up as a fictional character because we aren't pretty enough?? And then you call us racist?? My god. You sat there and said we all look exactly the same, with big noses, square heads, and ugly looks. You are so racist against westerners that I can't quite wrap my head around it. Shame on you... You sit here and try and shame westerners for the way we look... Something we can't control. How would you like it if I started making fun of the way you look? How would you like it if I called you ugly simply because of what race you are? How about I tell you that you are not pretty or special enough to dress up as a fictional character?
There is a special place in hell for racist assholes like you.
You are INCREDIBLY racist... So because we don't look like an asian person, you are going to discriminate against us and tell us that we aren't allowed to dress up as a fictional character because we aren't pretty enough?? And then you call us racist?? My god. You sat there and said we all look exactly the same, with big noses, square heads, and ugly looks. You are so racist against westerners that I can't quite wrap my head around it. Shame on you... You sit here and try and shame westerners for the way we look... Something we can't control. How would you like it if I started making fun of the way you look? How would you like it if I called you ugly simply because of what race you are? How about I tell you that you are not pretty or special enough to dress up as a fictional character?
There is a special place in hell for racist assholes like you.
1. The reason westerners can't Cosplay Anime/Asian characters is not because of they are westerners or because of who they are born as but because :
- They only end up ruining Anime characters because they don't look like the characters.
- Their action is similar to "black face" so what they are doing is racism against Asians.
2. The point is not some, most, etc westerner have big long nose, square face, etc but the point is no westerners who look like Asian so when they imitate Asian characters they only cause those 2 things I mentioned before.
3. Yes no one can control how they are going to be born but that is not giving them rights to commit crimes, peoples who are born poor can't justify stealing by saying they can't help being born poor. Accept who you are and don't do things that cause harm to other peoples. And no one here calling westerners ugly, you seems try so hard to dramatize this issue because you hate this so much that you will do anything to stop it even by spreading nonsense about this movement.
Interesting. I have to ask, so how is someone cosplaying harming you? How is it racist to temporary look like another person who doesn't exist?You are INCREDIBLY racist... So because we don't look like an asian person, you are going to discriminate against us and tell us that we aren't allowed to dress up as a fictional character because we aren't pretty enough?? And then you call us racist?? My god. You sat there and said we all look exactly the same, with big noses, square heads, and ugly looks. You are so racist against westerners that I can't quite wrap my head around it. Shame on you... You sit here and try and shame westerners for the way we look... Something we can't control. How would you like it if I started making fun of the way you look? How would you like it if I called you ugly simply because of what race you are? How about I tell you that you are not pretty or special enough to dress up as a fictional character?
There is a special place in hell for racist assholes like you.
1. The reason westerners can't Cosplay Anime/Asian characters is not because of they are westerners or because of who they are born as but because :
- They only end up ruining Anime characters because they don't look like the characters.
- Their action is similar to "black face" so what they are doing is racism against Asians.
2. The point is not some, most, etc westerner have big long nose, square face, etc but the point is no westerners who look like Asian so when they imitate Asian characters they only cause those 2 things I mentioned before.
3. Yes no one can control how they are going to be born but that is not giving them rights to commit crimes, peoples who are born poor can't justify stealing by saying they can't help being born poor. Accept who you are and don't do things that cause harm to other peoples. And no one here calling westerners ugly, you seems try so hard to dramatize this issue because you hate this so much that you will do anything to stop it even by spreading nonsense about this movement.
I realize my name has Yagami in it. But that is because it's from Yagami Iori of the King of Fighters game which I have been a fan of since 1995. Also, I should mention that I enjoy anime (though I don't cosplay myself), that I find the Japanese culture to be fascinating to which I would like to learn more about. I am also an American citizen of the US and that I am proud to be a person who respects others for who they are regardless of their race, religion or gender. I'm not trying boast, nor do I want you to think that I'm trying to be rude to you, but that I am trying to teach you a thing or two.
Anyways, I have a few points to make to you:
1. Not all westerners look the same. Some of them happen to be of Asian (including Japanese) decent.
2. It's ironic that you're complaining on a web site that I'm assuming is American made because of it's title U(nited) S(tates) Message Board when you're, I'm just guessing here, Japanese or at least Asian.
3. Not all cosplayers dress as anime characters. Some cosplay as game, tv, movie and sometimes even real people for example. I once saw a guy cosplaying as Stan Lee
4. "Imitation is the highest form of flattery". People who cosplay as an anime character or one of the things that I mentioned above, is probably a fan of said example. Even if they don't have that great of a costume.
5. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Some Asians, even Japanese, find western people to be attractive or pretty. Some of them are even married to each other. What a shocker, huh?
6. I don't think there's anything wrong with pride, but when you let it blind you to reality and lead down a path of willing ignorance, bigotry, racist views and arrogance, then that's when a line has to be drawn. I also don't think there's anything wrong with not liking some cosplay you have seen and trust me, I've seen some pretty bad cosplayers. Just as long as it doesn't turn you into a jerk.
7. If your goal is to stop all westerners from cosplaying, then I'm afraid it's an impossible task because there are thousands upon thousands of western cosplayers.
8. How about you make a trade with us? Convince your government to give the United States their McDonald's, their Mickey Mouse inspired clothing, their sense of clothing style (Rockabilly, imitation of 1950's "grease monkeys") the national American past time known as baseball, sports jerseys or anything else that is American that has been integrated into the Japanese society. Then, we'll stop cosplaying as your precious fictional, nonexistent, not physically harming anybody by looking like them, anime characters. Until then, we'll continue to cosplay the HELL out of them.
I suggest you think about those points and re-evaluate your view on western cosplayers. Other than that, ja mata ne!
Interesting. I have to ask, so how is someone cosplaying harming you? How is it racist to temporary look like another person who doesn't exist?You are INCREDIBLY racist... So because we don't look like an asian person, you are going to discriminate against us and tell us that we aren't allowed to dress up as a fictional character because we aren't pretty enough?? And then you call us racist?? My god. You sat there and said we all look exactly the same, with big noses, square heads, and ugly looks. You are so racist against westerners that I can't quite wrap my head around it. Shame on you... You sit here and try and shame westerners for the way we look... Something we can't control. How would you like it if I started making fun of the way you look? How would you like it if I called you ugly simply because of what race you are? How about I tell you that you are not pretty or special enough to dress up as a fictional character?
There is a special place in hell for racist assholes like you.
1. The reason westerners can't Cosplay Anime/Asian characters is not because of they are westerners or because of who they are born as but because :
- They only end up ruining Anime characters because they don't look like the characters.
- Their action is similar to "black face" so what they are doing is racism against Asians.
2. The point is not some, most, etc westerner have big long nose, square face, etc but the point is no westerners who look like Asian so when they imitate Asian characters they only cause those 2 things I mentioned before.
3. Yes no one can control how they are going to be born but that is not giving them rights to commit crimes, peoples who are born poor can't justify stealing by saying they can't help being born poor. Accept who you are and don't do things that cause harm to other peoples. And no one here calling westerners ugly, you seems try so hard to dramatize this issue because you hate this so much that you will do anything to stop it even by spreading nonsense about this movement.
Interesting. I have to ask, so how is someone cosplaying harming you? How is it racist to temporary look like another person who doesn't exist?You are INCREDIBLY racist... So because we don't look like an asian person, you are going to discriminate against us and tell us that we aren't allowed to dress up as a fictional character because we aren't pretty enough?? And then you call us racist?? My god. You sat there and said we all look exactly the same, with big noses, square heads, and ugly looks. You are so racist against westerners that I can't quite wrap my head around it. Shame on you... You sit here and try and shame westerners for the way we look... Something we can't control. How would you like it if I started making fun of the way you look? How would you like it if I called you ugly simply because of what race you are? How about I tell you that you are not pretty or special enough to dress up as a fictional character?
There is a special place in hell for racist assholes like you.
1. The reason westerners can't Cosplay Anime/Asian characters is not because of they are westerners or because of who they are born as but because :
- They only end up ruining Anime characters because they don't look like the characters.
- Their action is similar to "black face" so what they are doing is racism against Asians.
2. The point is not some, most, etc westerner have big long nose, square face, etc but the point is no westerners who look like Asian so when they imitate Asian characters they only cause those 2 things I mentioned before.
3. Yes no one can control how they are going to be born but that is not giving them rights to commit crimes, peoples who are born poor can't justify stealing by saying they can't help being born poor. Accept who you are and don't do things that cause harm to other peoples. And no one here calling westerners ugly, you seems try so hard to dramatize this issue because you hate this so much that you will do anything to stop it even by spreading nonsense about this movement.
So someone who badly imitate the one you love and respect such as your lover, parents, etc are not hurting you? And imitating Anime characters = imitating Asians because the characters are based on Asians.
1. Yes, there are. I have seen Asian cosplayers many times.I realize my name has Yagami in it. But that is because it's from Yagami Iori of the King of Fighters game which I have been a fan of since 1995. Also, I should mention that I enjoy anime (though I don't cosplay myself), that I find the Japanese culture to be fascinating to which I would like to learn more about. I am also an American citizen of the US and that I am proud to be a person who respects others for who they are regardless of their race, religion or gender. I'm not trying boast, nor do I want you to think that I'm trying to be rude to you, but that I am trying to teach you a thing or two.
Anyways, I have a few points to make to you:
1. Not all westerners look the same. Some of them happen to be of Asian (including Japanese) decent.
2. It's ironic that you're complaining on a web site that I'm assuming is American made because of it's title U(nited) S(tates) Message Board when you're, I'm just guessing here, Japanese or at least Asian.
3. Not all cosplayers dress as anime characters. Some cosplay as game, tv, movie and sometimes even real people for example. I once saw a guy cosplaying as Stan Lee
4. "Imitation is the highest form of flattery". People who cosplay as an anime character or one of the things that I mentioned above, is probably a fan of said example. Even if they don't have that great of a costume.
5. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Some Asians, even Japanese, find western people to be attractive or pretty. Some of them are even married to each other. What a shocker, huh?
6. I don't think there's anything wrong with pride, but when you let it blind you to reality and lead down a path of willing ignorance, bigotry, racist views and arrogance, then that's when a line has to be drawn. I also don't think there's anything wrong with not liking some cosplay you have seen and trust me, I've seen some pretty bad cosplayers. Just as long as it doesn't turn you into a jerk.
7. If your goal is to stop all westerners from cosplaying, then I'm afraid it's an impossible task because there are thousands upon thousands of western cosplayers.
8. How about you make a trade with us? Convince your government to give the United States their McDonald's, their Mickey Mouse inspired clothing, their sense of clothing style (Rockabilly, imitation of 1950's "grease monkeys") the national American past time known as baseball, sports jerseys or anything else that is American that has been integrated into the Japanese society. Then, we'll stop cosplaying as your precious fictional, nonexistent, not physically harming anybody by looking like them, anime characters. Until then, we'll continue to cosplay the HELL out of them.
I suggest you think about those points and re-evaluate your view on western cosplayers. Other than that, ja mata ne!
1. Obviously but are there any of them who look like Asian so that they won't ruining the Anime/Asian characters when they try to imitate those characters? You know bad Cosplay = ruining the characters = hurting the fans of those characters, not to mention the bad side effect on the show which could hurt the business aspects.
2. Because I know most of this forums viewers are westerners so I put this issue in the right place.
3. This anti western cosplayers movement only against western cosplayers who imitate Anime/Asian characters, anything than that is not an issue to this movement. You should read the original post in more detailt.
4. Nope, that phrase is not true especially to us Asians. Imitation is crimes, for example if make an imitating of something then sell it, you imitate an actor/actress to get money, you imitate a police or army personel, etc including you imitate a character while the result is bad then you are ruining that character image.
5. That is nonsense, just read this Anti Western Cosplayers Japanese marriages also proves Anime characters based on Asians , your mindset is the reason why kkk still exist to this day because they falsely believe their race is superior so that they automatically believe anyone else must look up and bow down to them.
6. Without pride, humans are just animals without shame.
7. There is a bigger purpose behind this movement.
8. If you have problem with those issue then make those movement, I myself not doing or wearing any of the things you mentioned.
And peoples who cimmit crimes are not deserving any respect,
anyway you are the 8th members who register just to be able to reply this topic.
Interesting. I have to ask, so how is someone cosplaying harming you? How is it racist to temporary look like another person who doesn't exist?You are INCREDIBLY racist... So because we don't look like an asian person, you are going to discriminate against us and tell us that we aren't allowed to dress up as a fictional character because we aren't pretty enough?? And then you call us racist?? My god. You sat there and said we all look exactly the same, with big noses, square heads, and ugly looks. You are so racist against westerners that I can't quite wrap my head around it. Shame on you... You sit here and try and shame westerners for the way we look... Something we can't control. How would you like it if I started making fun of the way you look? How would you like it if I called you ugly simply because of what race you are? How about I tell you that you are not pretty or special enough to dress up as a fictional character?
There is a special place in hell for racist assholes like you.
1. The reason westerners can't Cosplay Anime/Asian characters is not because of they are westerners or because of who they are born as but because :
- They only end up ruining Anime characters because they don't look like the characters.
- Their action is similar to "black face" so what they are doing is racism against Asians.
2. The point is not some, most, etc westerner have big long nose, square face, etc but the point is no westerners who look like Asian so when they imitate Asian characters they only cause those 2 things I mentioned before.
3. Yes no one can control how they are going to be born but that is not giving them rights to commit crimes, peoples who are born poor can't justify stealing by saying they can't help being born poor. Accept who you are and don't do things that cause harm to other peoples. And no one here calling westerners ugly, you seems try so hard to dramatize this issue because you hate this so much that you will do anything to stop it even by spreading nonsense about this movement.
So someone who badly imitate the one you love and respect such as your lover, parents, etc are not hurting you? And imitating Anime characters = imitating Asians because the characters are based on Asians.
How about this:
Asians dye their hair different colors that resemble westerners... THEY ARE BEING RACIST!!
Anime characters have red hair/blonde hair instead of black... RACIST!!!
You sound utterly ridiculous, and nothing you have said will ever make you sound less of a racist bigot.
Oh, good points. I didn't think of that.Interesting. I have to ask, so how is someone cosplaying harming you? How is it racist to temporary look like another person who doesn't exist?You are INCREDIBLY racist... So because we don't look like an asian person, you are going to discriminate against us and tell us that we aren't allowed to dress up as a fictional character because we aren't pretty enough?? And then you call us racist?? My god. You sat there and said we all look exactly the same, with big noses, square heads, and ugly looks. You are so racist against westerners that I can't quite wrap my head around it. Shame on you... You sit here and try and shame westerners for the way we look... Something we can't control. How would you like it if I started making fun of the way you look? How would you like it if I called you ugly simply because of what race you are? How about I tell you that you are not pretty or special enough to dress up as a fictional character?
There is a special place in hell for racist assholes like you.
1. The reason westerners can't Cosplay Anime/Asian characters is not because of they are westerners or because of who they are born as but because :
- They only end up ruining Anime characters because they don't look like the characters.
- Their action is similar to "black face" so what they are doing is racism against Asians.
2. The point is not some, most, etc westerner have big long nose, square face, etc but the point is no westerners who look like Asian so when they imitate Asian characters they only cause those 2 things I mentioned before.
3. Yes no one can control how they are going to be born but that is not giving them rights to commit crimes, peoples who are born poor can't justify stealing by saying they can't help being born poor. Accept who you are and don't do things that cause harm to other peoples. And no one here calling westerners ugly, you seems try so hard to dramatize this issue because you hate this so much that you will do anything to stop it even by spreading nonsense about this movement.
So someone who badly imitate the one you love and respect such as your lover, parents, etc are not hurting you? And imitating Anime characters = imitating Asians because the characters are based on Asians.
How about this:
Asians dye their hair different colors that resemble westerners... THEY ARE BEING RACIST!!
Anime characters have red hair/blonde hair instead of black... RACIST!!!
You sound utterly ridiculous, and nothing you have said will ever make you sound less of a racist bigot.
If someone dressed as a family member or whoever and didn't do anything that would be considered as immoral, I would laugh at them.Interesting. I have to ask, so how is someone cosplaying harming you? How is it racist to temporary look like another person who doesn't exist?You are INCREDIBLY racist... So because we don't look like an asian person, you are going to discriminate against us and tell us that we aren't allowed to dress up as a fictional character because we aren't pretty enough?? And then you call us racist?? My god. You sat there and said we all look exactly the same, with big noses, square heads, and ugly looks. You are so racist against westerners that I can't quite wrap my head around it. Shame on you... You sit here and try and shame westerners for the way we look... Something we can't control. How would you like it if I started making fun of the way you look? How would you like it if I called you ugly simply because of what race you are? How about I tell you that you are not pretty or special enough to dress up as a fictional character?
There is a special place in hell for racist assholes like you.
1. The reason westerners can't Cosplay Anime/Asian characters is not because of they are westerners or because of who they are born as but because :
- They only end up ruining Anime characters because they don't look like the characters.
- Their action is similar to "black face" so what they are doing is racism against Asians.
2. The point is not some, most, etc westerner have big long nose, square face, etc but the point is no westerners who look like Asian so when they imitate Asian characters they only cause those 2 things I mentioned before.
3. Yes no one can control how they are going to be born but that is not giving them rights to commit crimes, peoples who are born poor can't justify stealing by saying they can't help being born poor. Accept who you are and don't do things that cause harm to other peoples. And no one here calling westerners ugly, you seems try so hard to dramatize this issue because you hate this so much that you will do anything to stop it even by spreading nonsense about this movement.
So someone who badly imitate the one you love and respect such as your lover, parents, etc are not hurting you? And imitating Anime characters = imitating Asians because the characters are based on Asians.
WRONG!Interesting. I have to ask, so how is someone cosplaying harming you? How is it racist to temporary look like another person who doesn't exist?You are INCREDIBLY racist... So because we don't look like an asian person, you are going to discriminate against us and tell us that we aren't allowed to dress up as a fictional character because we aren't pretty enough?? And then you call us racist?? My god. You sat there and said we all look exactly the same, with big noses, square heads, and ugly looks. You are so racist against westerners that I can't quite wrap my head around it. Shame on you... You sit here and try and shame westerners for the way we look... Something we can't control. How would you like it if I started making fun of the way you look? How would you like it if I called you ugly simply because of what race you are? How about I tell you that you are not pretty or special enough to dress up as a fictional character?
There is a special place in hell for racist assholes like you.
1. The reason westerners can't Cosplay Anime/Asian characters is not because of they are westerners or because of who they are born as but because :
- They only end up ruining Anime characters because they don't look like the characters.
- Their action is similar to "black face" so what they are doing is racism against Asians.
2. The point is not some, most, etc westerner have big long nose, square face, etc but the point is no westerners who look like Asian so when they imitate Asian characters they only cause those 2 things I mentioned before.
3. Yes no one can control how they are going to be born but that is not giving them rights to commit crimes, peoples who are born poor can't justify stealing by saying they can't help being born poor. Accept who you are and don't do things that cause harm to other peoples. And no one here calling westerners ugly, you seems try so hard to dramatize this issue because you hate this so much that you will do anything to stop it even by spreading nonsense about this movement.
So someone who badly imitate the one you love and respect such as your lover, parents, etc are not hurting you? And imitating Anime characters = imitating Asians because the characters are based on Asians.
How about this:
Asians dye their hair different colors that resemble westerners... THEY ARE BEING RACIST!!
Anime characters have red hair/blonde hair instead of black... RACIST!!!
You sound utterly ridiculous, and nothing you have said will ever make you sound less of a racist bigot.
1. The Asians who did that never said they do it to imitate westerners, so you only making nonsense. Someone who dye their hair will never automatically mean they imitate another race because hair color is not used to determine someone race or appearance.
2. You know nothing about Anime, the reason Anime characters have non-black colors is to make them easier to recognize and to represent their elements for Mahou [ magic ] genre Anime. You can read this in more detail at Anti Western Cosplayers View topic - What we Asians truly believe of how you westerners look like
Anyway trying to insult me will never work, you maybe not know this but I have been in this movement for more than 8 years now so I have seen most of things I need to continue this movement, you can say I have eat enought salt from this movement so anymore have no more effects on me.
1. Yes, there are. I have seen Asian cosplayers many times.I realize my name has Yagami in it. But that is because it's from Yagami Iori of the King of Fighters game which I have been a fan of since 1995. Also, I should mention that I enjoy anime (though I don't cosplay myself), that I find the Japanese culture to be fascinating to which I would like to learn more about. I am also an American citizen of the US and that I am proud to be a person who respects others for who they are regardless of their race, religion or gender. I'm not trying boast, nor do I want you to think that I'm trying to be rude to you, but that I am trying to teach you a thing or two.
Anyways, I have a few points to make to you:
1. Not all westerners look the same. Some of them happen to be of Asian (including Japanese) decent.
2. It's ironic that you're complaining on a web site that I'm assuming is American made because of it's title U(nited) S(tates) Message Board when you're, I'm just guessing here, Japanese or at least Asian.
3. Not all cosplayers dress as anime characters. Some cosplay as game, tv, movie and sometimes even real people for example. I once saw a guy cosplaying as Stan Lee
4. "Imitation is the highest form of flattery". People who cosplay as an anime character or one of the things that I mentioned above, is probably a fan of said example. Even if they don't have that great of a costume.
5. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Some Asians, even Japanese, find western people to be attractive or pretty. Some of them are even married to each other. What a shocker, huh?
6. I don't think there's anything wrong with pride, but when you let it blind you to reality and lead down a path of willing ignorance, bigotry, racist views and arrogance, then that's when a line has to be drawn. I also don't think there's anything wrong with not liking some cosplay you have seen and trust me, I've seen some pretty bad cosplayers. Just as long as it doesn't turn you into a jerk.
7. If your goal is to stop all westerners from cosplaying, then I'm afraid it's an impossible task because there are thousands upon thousands of western cosplayers.
8. How about you make a trade with us? Convince your government to give the United States their McDonald's, their Mickey Mouse inspired clothing, their sense of clothing style (Rockabilly, imitation of 1950's "grease monkeys") the national American past time known as baseball, sports jerseys or anything else that is American that has been integrated into the Japanese society. Then, we'll stop cosplaying as your precious fictional, nonexistent, not physically harming anybody by looking like them, anime characters. Until then, we'll continue to cosplay the HELL out of them.
I suggest you think about those points and re-evaluate your view on western cosplayers. Other than that, ja mata ne!
1. Obviously but are there any of them who look like Asian so that they won't ruining the Anime/Asian characters when they try to imitate those characters? You know bad Cosplay = ruining the characters = hurting the fans of those characters, not to mention the bad side effect on the show which could hurt the business aspects.
2. Because I know most of this forums viewers are westerners so I put this issue in the right place.
3. This anti western cosplayers movement only against western cosplayers who imitate Anime/Asian characters, anything than that is not an issue to this movement. You should read the original post in more detailt.
4. Nope, that phrase is not true especially to us Asians. Imitation is crimes, for example if make an imitating of something then sell it, you imitate an actor/actress to get money, you imitate a police or army personel, etc including you imitate a character while the result is bad then you are ruining that character image.
5. That is nonsense, just read this Anti Western Cosplayers Japanese marriages also proves Anime characters based on Asians , your mindset is the reason why kkk still exist to this day because they falsely believe their race is superior so that they automatically believe anyone else must look up and bow down to them.
6. Without pride, humans are just animals without shame.
7. There is a bigger purpose behind this movement.
8. If you have problem with those issue then make those movement, I myself not doing or wearing any of the things you mentioned.
And peoples who cimmit crimes are not deserving any respect,
anyway you are the 8th members who register just to be able to reply this topic.
2. Why? What's the point of showing them this? Are you trying to gather support or just piss them off?
3. So you have nothing better to do than to whine and complain about non-Asians dressing up as people who don't exist?
4. Did I mention anything about trying to sell a product or imitate authority figures? No, I don't think I did. I can see your point about ruining someone's good image, but when they don't exist...so? I've seen some pretty bad cosplayers. as I mentioned, but that didn't stop and make me think, "Oh, that anime must really suck because that cosplayer's costume sucks."
5. Did you not read that part where I said, "I am proud to be a person who respects others for who they are regardless of their race, religion or gender."? Obviously, I don't have the mindset of some pitiful KKK member.
6. Completely missed the point on that one, didn't you? I don't have a clue how you got "no pride" out of that one.
7. I see. I just think you're making a big deal out of something that doesn't have much of an impact on your world. There are much worse things out there to have a movement against. Like, slavery, starvation, the mistreatment of women in the mid-east to name a few.
8. Good for you then. You're being yourself.
If someone dressed as a family member or whoever and didn't do anything that would be considered as immoral, I would laugh at them.Interesting. I have to ask, so how is someone cosplaying harming you? How is it racist to temporary look like another person who doesn't exist?You are INCREDIBLY racist... So because we don't look like an asian person, you are going to discriminate against us and tell us that we aren't allowed to dress up as a fictional character because we aren't pretty enough?? And then you call us racist?? My god. You sat there and said we all look exactly the same, with big noses, square heads, and ugly looks. You are so racist against westerners that I can't quite wrap my head around it. Shame on you... You sit here and try and shame westerners for the way we look... Something we can't control. How would you like it if I started making fun of the way you look? How would you like it if I called you ugly simply because of what race you are? How about I tell you that you are not pretty or special enough to dress up as a fictional character?
There is a special place in hell for racist assholes like you.
1. The reason westerners can't Cosplay Anime/Asian characters is not because of they are westerners or because of who they are born as but because :
- They only end up ruining Anime characters because they don't look like the characters.
- Their action is similar to "black face" so what they are doing is racism against Asians.
2. The point is not some, most, etc westerner have big long nose, square face, etc but the point is no westerners who look like Asian so when they imitate Asian characters they only cause those 2 things I mentioned before.
3. Yes no one can control how they are going to be born but that is not giving them rights to commit crimes, peoples who are born poor can't justify stealing by saying they can't help being born poor. Accept who you are and don't do things that cause harm to other peoples. And no one here calling westerners ugly, you seems try so hard to dramatize this issue because you hate this so much that you will do anything to stop it even by spreading nonsense about this movement.
So someone who badly imitate the one you love and respect such as your lover, parents, etc are not hurting you? And imitating Anime characters = imitating Asians because the characters are based on Asians.
WRONG!Interesting. I have to ask, so how is someone cosplaying harming you? How is it racist to temporary look like another person who doesn't exist?1. The reason westerners can't Cosplay Anime/Asian characters is not because of they are westerners or because of who they are born as but because :
- They only end up ruining Anime characters because they don't look like the characters.
- Their action is similar to "black face" so what they are doing is racism against Asians.
2. The point is not some, most, etc westerner have big long nose, square face, etc but the point is no westerners who look like Asian so when they imitate Asian characters they only cause those 2 things I mentioned before.
3. Yes no one can control how they are going to be born but that is not giving them rights to commit crimes, peoples who are born poor can't justify stealing by saying they can't help being born poor. Accept who you are and don't do things that cause harm to other peoples. And no one here calling westerners ugly, you seems try so hard to dramatize this issue because you hate this so much that you will do anything to stop it even by spreading nonsense about this movement.
So someone who badly imitate the one you love and respect such as your lover, parents, etc are not hurting you? And imitating Anime characters = imitating Asians because the characters are based on Asians.
How about this:
Asians dye their hair different colors that resemble westerners... THEY ARE BEING RACIST!!
Anime characters have red hair/blonde hair instead of black... RACIST!!!
You sound utterly ridiculous, and nothing you have said will ever make you sound less of a racist bigot.
1. The Asians who did that never said they do it to imitate westerners, so you only making nonsense. Someone who dye their hair will never automatically mean they imitate another race because hair color is not used to determine someone race or appearance.
2. You know nothing about Anime, the reason Anime characters have non-black colors is to make them easier to recognize and to represent their elements for Mahou [ magic ] genre Anime. You can read this in more detail at Anti Western Cosplayers View topic - What we Asians truly believe of how you westerners look like
Anyway trying to insult me will never work, you maybe not know this but I have been in this movement for more than 8 years now so I have seen most of things I need to continue this movement, you can say I have eat enought salt from this movement so anymore have no more effects on me.
Red heads, like me, are generally thought of to be of Irish decent or purely Irish. Last time I checked, Irish people are considered to be white, which is a race.
Blondes could be Swedish or Norwegian. Two races that are white. Huzzah!
Brown haired people, could be just about any race, African, Mexican, Hispanic, British and yes, even Asian.
So you continue to fight for a hopeless cause? You're tenacious, I'll give you that much.
1. My brother in law is part Thai. How about that?1. Yes, there are. I have seen Asian cosplayers many times.I realize my name has Yagami in it. But that is because it's from Yagami Iori of the King of Fighters game which I have been a fan of since 1995. Also, I should mention that I enjoy anime (though I don't cosplay myself), that I find the Japanese culture to be fascinating to which I would like to learn more about. I am also an American citizen of the US and that I am proud to be a person who respects others for who they are regardless of their race, religion or gender. I'm not trying boast, nor do I want you to think that I'm trying to be rude to you, but that I am trying to teach you a thing or two.
Anyways, I have a few points to make to you:
1. Not all westerners look the same. Some of them happen to be of Asian (including Japanese) decent.
2. It's ironic that you're complaining on a web site that I'm assuming is American made because of it's title U(nited) S(tates) Message Board when you're, I'm just guessing here, Japanese or at least Asian.
3. Not all cosplayers dress as anime characters. Some cosplay as game, tv, movie and sometimes even real people for example. I once saw a guy cosplaying as Stan Lee
4. "Imitation is the highest form of flattery". People who cosplay as an anime character or one of the things that I mentioned above, is probably a fan of said example. Even if they don't have that great of a costume.
5. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Some Asians, even Japanese, find western people to be attractive or pretty. Some of them are even married to each other. What a shocker, huh?
6. I don't think there's anything wrong with pride, but when you let it blind you to reality and lead down a path of willing ignorance, bigotry, racist views and arrogance, then that's when a line has to be drawn. I also don't think there's anything wrong with not liking some cosplay you have seen and trust me, I've seen some pretty bad cosplayers. Just as long as it doesn't turn you into a jerk.
7. If your goal is to stop all westerners from cosplaying, then I'm afraid it's an impossible task because there are thousands upon thousands of western cosplayers.
8. How about you make a trade with us? Convince your government to give the United States their McDonald's, their Mickey Mouse inspired clothing, their sense of clothing style (Rockabilly, imitation of 1950's "grease monkeys") the national American past time known as baseball, sports jerseys or anything else that is American that has been integrated into the Japanese society. Then, we'll stop cosplaying as your precious fictional, nonexistent, not physically harming anybody by looking like them, anime characters. Until then, we'll continue to cosplay the HELL out of them.
I suggest you think about those points and re-evaluate your view on western cosplayers. Other than that, ja mata ne!
1. Obviously but are there any of them who look like Asian so that they won't ruining the Anime/Asian characters when they try to imitate those characters? You know bad Cosplay = ruining the characters = hurting the fans of those characters, not to mention the bad side effect on the show which could hurt the business aspects.
2. Because I know most of this forums viewers are westerners so I put this issue in the right place.
3. This anti western cosplayers movement only against western cosplayers who imitate Anime/Asian characters, anything than that is not an issue to this movement. You should read the original post in more detailt.
4. Nope, that phrase is not true especially to us Asians. Imitation is crimes, for example if make an imitating of something then sell it, you imitate an actor/actress to get money, you imitate a police or army personel, etc including you imitate a character while the result is bad then you are ruining that character image.
5. That is nonsense, just read this Anti Western Cosplayers Japanese marriages also proves Anime characters based on Asians , your mindset is the reason why kkk still exist to this day because they falsely believe their race is superior so that they automatically believe anyone else must look up and bow down to them.
6. Without pride, humans are just animals without shame.
7. There is a bigger purpose behind this movement.
8. If you have problem with those issue then make those movement, I myself not doing or wearing any of the things you mentioned.
And peoples who cimmit crimes are not deserving any respect,
anyway you are the 8th members who register just to be able to reply this topic.
2. Why? What's the point of showing them this? Are you trying to gather support or just piss them off?
3. So you have nothing better to do than to whine and complain about non-Asians dressing up as people who don't exist?
4. Did I mention anything about trying to sell a product or imitate authority figures? No, I don't think I did. I can see your point about ruining someone's good image, but when they don't exist...so? I've seen some pretty bad cosplayers. as I mentioned, but that didn't stop and make me think, "Oh, that anime must really suck because that cosplayer's costume sucks."
5. Did you not read that part where I said, "I am proud to be a person who respects others for who they are regardless of their race, religion or gender."? Obviously, I don't have the mindset of some pitiful KKK member.
6. Completely missed the point on that one, didn't you? I don't have a clue how you got "no pride" out of that one.
7. I see. I just think you're making a big deal out of something that doesn't have much of an impact on your world. There are much worse things out there to have a movement against. Like, slavery, starvation, the mistreatment of women in the mid-east to name a few.
8. Good for you then. You're being yourself.
1. Why not show that so called westerners who look like Asian? See how many peoples who are going to laught at you in here after showing it, and posting someone who have Asian blood in them will only prove you wrong.
2. To inform the westerners who are not cosplayers imitating Anime/Asian characters about the wrong doing of the westerners who imitate Anime/Asian characters.
3. Nah, I'm agants westerners racism and other wrong doing against Asians.
4. Exist or not Anime characters are loved by hundreds millions of peoples in the world, many Anime fans even go as far as to claim certain Anime characters as their wife or husband. Especially in Japan, the numbers of fanatic Anime fans is much higher. Exist or not you still hurt them when you badly imitate the one they love and respect.
5. You don't make any sense, what you said earlier contradicts the facts I posted which you are speaking nonsense.
6. There is no blind pride stuff with the Proud Asian who run this movement, it is just about peoples who fight to protect those they care about and love.
7. If this really have not much impact then how come you yourself register just to be able to reply this? You are a streotype, you haven't see the real scene especially in Japan as the center of Anime yet.
