Antifa Communism Rejected in Spain

[Lucy Hamilton]

So killing ones own citizens is an abomination.

Well you better go tell that to those who support Abraham Lincoln.

If a geographical section of the country rebels militarily, then that's a war.

Franco sent a little less than half a million of his own citizens to camps or their deaths, in peacetime.

Your moral equivalency fails on numerous levels.

Most of those were military men captured, and put into those camps.

This is a "fact" that you've pulled out of your ass, because you didn't have anything else.

Not, that I support that.

Glad to hear it.

I never said I truly support Franco.

What I'm defending is mostly Franco's economy in the Spanish Miracle.

I'm defending the right to support Franco how wrong he may have been, so long as people can support FDR, or Churchill.

No, the moral equivalency still fails.

Chris Kyle killed more than 3 times as many people as the most prolific serial killer in American history. Do you think that makes him 3 times as evil?

Well, if Churchill, and FDR aren't any better than Franco, why do so many people in the West support them?

You misunderstand me.

I think that Churchill and FDR were much better than Franco

What about Truman? He only dropped Atomic Bombs murdering innocent people to show the Soviet's America had the Atomic Bomb.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Worse in what sense?

In the context of World War II, FDR and Churchill killed their enemies. Franco killed his own citizens.

There is no moral equivalency there.

So killing ones own citizens is an abomination.

Well you better go tell that to those who support Abraham Lincoln.

If a geographical section of the country rebels militarily, then that's a war.

Franco sent a little less than half a million of his own citizens to camps or their deaths, in peacetime.

Your moral equivalency fails on numerous levels.

Most of those were military men captured, and put into those camps.

This is a "fact" that you've pulled out of your ass, because you didn't have anything else.

Not, that I support that.

Glad to hear it.

I never said I truly support Franco.

What I'm defending is mostly Franco's economy in the Spanish Miracle.

I'm defending the right to support Franco how wrong he may have been, so long as people can support FDR, or Churchill.

No, the moral equivalency still fails.

Chris Kyle killed more than 3 times as many people as the most prolific serial killer in American history. Do you think that makes him 3 times as evil?

Who is Chris Kyle I have never heard of him?

An American sniper in Iraq. There's a movie about him.

He had the most confirmed kills of any sniper in US military history - and then he was killed by a soldier with PTSD that he was working with, and had taken to a shooting range.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

If a geographical section of the country rebels militarily, then that's a war.

Franco sent a little less than half a million of his own citizens to camps or their deaths, in peacetime.

Your moral equivalency fails on numerous levels.

Most of those were military men captured, and put into those camps.

This is a "fact" that you've pulled out of your ass, because you didn't have anything else.

Not, that I support that.

Glad to hear it.

I never said I truly support Franco.

What I'm defending is mostly Franco's economy in the Spanish Miracle.

I'm defending the right to support Franco how wrong he may have been, so long as people can support FDR, or Churchill.

No, the moral equivalency still fails.

Chris Kyle killed more than 3 times as many people as the most prolific serial killer in American history. Do you think that makes him 3 times as evil?

Well, if Churchill, and FDR aren't any better than Franco, why do so many people in the West support them?

You misunderstand me.

I think that Churchill and FDR were much better than Franco

What about Truman?

Him too.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Hitler was worse than Churchill, or Franco, and I'm going to say Churchill was worse than Franco.

Worse in what sense?

In the context of World War II, FDR and Churchill killed their enemies. Franco killed his own citizens.

There is no moral equivalency there.

So killing ones own citizens is an abomination.

Well you better go tell that to those who support Abraham Lincoln.

If a geographical section of the country rebels militarily, then that's a war.

Franco sent a little less than half a million of his own citizens to camps or their deaths, in peacetime.

Your moral equivalency fails on numerous levels.

Most of those were military men captured, and put into those camps.
Not, that I support that.

I never said I truly support Franco.

What I'm defending is mostly Franco's economy in the Spanish Miracle.

I'm defending the right to support Franco how wrong he may have been, so long as people can support FDR, or Churchill.

Democracy is always better than fascism... Franco finally allowed tourism in the 60s but Spain's economy really grew only after he died. Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead!! That's Saturday Night Live 1976 by the way...

Spanish miracle - Wikipedia

 

[francoHFW]

Hitler was worse than Churchill, or Franco, and I'm going to say Churchill was worse than Franco.

Worse in what sense?

In the context of World War II, FDR and Churchill killed their enemies. Franco killed his own citizens.

There is no moral equivalency there.

So killing ones own citizens is an abomination.

Well you better go tell that to those who support Abraham Lincoln.

If a geographical section of the country rebels militarily, then that's a war.

Franco sent a little less than half a million of his own citizens to camps or their deaths, in peacetime.

Your moral equivalency fails on numerous levels.

Hitler was worse than Churchill, or Franco, and I'm going to say Churchill was worse than Franco.

Worse in what sense?

In the context of World War II, FDR and Churchill killed their enemies. Franco killed his own citizens.

There is no moral equivalency there.

Stalin killed his own citizens and most of them not during a war situation, again the 7 million Ukranians deliberately starved to death happen in 1932-1933, yet Churchill and FDR never demanded that Stalin be put to the rope.

Also during the near 50 years Eastern Europe given to the Communist rule, thousands and thousands of those Stalin butchers lived happily and the British and Americans never one time demanded that Stalin's butchers be arrested and put on trial.

Lazar Kaganovich who was the architect of the Holomodor lived until 1991, yet the British and Americans did not demand he was arrested and put on trial for Crimes Against Humanity for being directly responsible for 7 million people being deliberately starved to death in a non wartime situation and just because they "were in the way"

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Lazar Kaganovich - Wikipedia

This article from the New York Times announcing his death at the age of 97 years of age does not even mention he was the architect of the Holomodor or even mention the Holomodor.

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L. M. Kaganovich, Stalwart of Stalin, Dies at 97

No shit.


Stalin was a shitfuck. Amongst the worst people who have ever lived.

How is that relevant to the post you responded to?

Because you keep saying that Franco killed his own citizens, not because they disagreed with him though he saw them as a threat to Spain because they were Communists.

Stalin had 7 million Ukranians starved to death because they were in the way, they were starved to death just to reduce the population number, they were not a threat to the existence of the Soviet Union.

• Because of the allied Potsdam, and Yalta Conference Soviet takeover of Poland, gave that Jewish Communist Jakub Berman to imprison up to 500,000 Polish people for political crimes, many of these were Armia Krajowa Polish patriots who fought the Nazis vigorously.

The fact is the Communists took away the opposition in that exact manner.

Totalitarians from both ends of the political Spectrum are like that... Nazis and communists in other words.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

So killing ones own citizens is an abomination.

Well you better go tell that to those who support Abraham Lincoln.

If a geographical section of the country rebels militarily, then that's a war.

Franco sent a little less than half a million of his own citizens to camps or their deaths, in peacetime.

Your moral equivalency fails on numerous levels.

Most of those were military men captured, and put into those camps.

This is a "fact" that you've pulled out of your ass, because you didn't have anything else.

Not, that I support that.

Glad to hear it.

I never said I truly support Franco.

What I'm defending is mostly Franco's economy in the Spanish Miracle.

I'm defending the right to support Franco how wrong he may have been, so long as people can support FDR, or Churchill.

No, the moral equivalency still fails.

Chris Kyle killed more than 3 times as many people as the most prolific serial killer in American history. Do you think that makes him 3 times as evil?

Who is Chris Kyle I have never heard of him?

An American sniper in Iraq. There's a movie about him.

He had the most confirmed kills of any sniper in US military history - and then he was killed by a soldier with PTSD that he was working with, and had taken to a shooting range.

Okay thanks, well that Chris Kyle was in a military situation so he was doing his job.

Serial killers are killing people who are no threat to anyone and are killing because they get enjoyment from it.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Yep. 100 %.

I like it when you guys out yourselves.

We like it when you Communists out yourselves.

You know, here's some advice.

I know how much it upsets you when people call you a Nazi - so perhaps you shouldn't call one of Hitler's greatest allies and kindred spirits a "GREAT man".

I do not care anymore who calls me a Nazi, the term Nazi has been rendered meaningless by Leftists considering everyone who does not agree with and support the Leftist Agenda is now termed a Nazi and that's everyone from Conservatives to Libertarians to Classical Liberals and even Independents.

I don't care Francisco Franco was a great man, anyone who saves their nation from Communism is a great man, same with Pinochet and Videla as I mention.

I'm glad you've come out of the closet, fascist.

At least you're not lying to us anymore.

Which closet was this ?

 

[francoHFW]

Worse in what sense?

In the context of World War II, FDR and Churchill killed their enemies. Franco killed his own citizens.

There is no moral equivalency there.

So killing ones own citizens is an abomination.

Well you better go tell that to those who support Abraham Lincoln.

If a geographical section of the country rebels militarily, then that's a war.

Franco sent a little less than half a million of his own citizens to camps or their deaths, in peacetime.

Your moral equivalency fails on numerous levels.

Worse in what sense?

In the context of World War II, FDR and Churchill killed their enemies. Franco killed his own citizens.

There is no moral equivalency there.

Stalin killed his own citizens and most of them not during a war situation, again the 7 million Ukranians deliberately starved to death happen in 1932-1933, yet Churchill and FDR never demanded that Stalin be put to the rope.

Also during the near 50 years Eastern Europe given to the Communist rule, thousands and thousands of those Stalin butchers lived happily and the British and Americans never one time demanded that Stalin's butchers be arrested and put on trial.

Lazar Kaganovich who was the architect of the Holomodor lived until 1991, yet the British and Americans did not demand he was arrested and put on trial for Crimes Against Humanity for being directly responsible for 7 million people being deliberately starved to death in a non wartime situation and just because they "were in the way"

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Lazar Kaganovich - Wikipedia

This article from the New York Times announcing his death at the age of 97 years of age does not even mention he was the architect of the Holomodor or even mention the Holomodor.

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L. M. Kaganovich, Stalwart of Stalin, Dies at 97

No shit.


Stalin was a shitfuck. Amongst the worst people who have ever lived.

How is that relevant to the post you responded to?

Because you keep saying that Franco killed his own citizens, not because they disagreed with him though he saw them as a threat to Spain because they were Communists.

Stalin had 7 million Ukranians starved to death because they were in the way, they were starved to death just to reduce the population number, they were not a threat to the existence of the Soviet Union.

• Because of the allied Potsdam, and Yalta Conference Soviet takeover of Poland, gave that Jewish Communist Jakub Berman to imprison up to 500,000 Polish people for political crimes, many of these were Armia Krajowa Polish patriots who fought the Nazis vigorously.

The fact is the Communists took away the opposition in that exact manner.

Totalitarians from both ends of the political Spectrum are like that... Nazis and communists in other words.

The right wing idiots in the US have a new brainwashed theory that conservatives are wonderful at on the right and Nazis and Communists are horrible on the left so stupid... The liberal fascism idea that Nazis are socialists oh my God poor America.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Worse in what sense?

In the context of World War II, FDR and Churchill killed their enemies. Franco killed his own citizens.

There is no moral equivalency there.

So killing ones own citizens is an abomination.

Well you better go tell that to those who support Abraham Lincoln.

If a geographical section of the country rebels militarily, then that's a war.

Franco sent a little less than half a million of his own citizens to camps or their deaths, in peacetime.

Your moral equivalency fails on numerous levels.

Worse in what sense?

In the context of World War II, FDR and Churchill killed their enemies. Franco killed his own citizens.

There is no moral equivalency there.

Stalin killed his own citizens and most of them not during a war situation, again the 7 million Ukranians deliberately starved to death happen in 1932-1933, yet Churchill and FDR never demanded that Stalin be put to the rope.

Also during the near 50 years Eastern Europe given to the Communist rule, thousands and thousands of those Stalin butchers lived happily and the British and Americans never one time demanded that Stalin's butchers be arrested and put on trial.

Lazar Kaganovich who was the architect of the Holomodor lived until 1991, yet the British and Americans did not demand he was arrested and put on trial for Crimes Against Humanity for being directly responsible for 7 million people being deliberately starved to death in a non wartime situation and just because they "were in the way"

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Lazar Kaganovich - Wikipedia

This article from the New York Times announcing his death at the age of 97 years of age does not even mention he was the architect of the Holomodor or even mention the Holomodor.

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L. M. Kaganovich, Stalwart of Stalin, Dies at 97

No shit.


Stalin was a shitfuck. Amongst the worst people who have ever lived.

How is that relevant to the post you responded to?

Because you keep saying that Franco killed his own citizens, not because they disagreed with him though he saw them as a threat to Spain because they were Communists.

Stalin had 7 million Ukranians starved to death because they were in the way, they were starved to death just to reduce the population number, they were not a threat to the existence of the Soviet Union.

So you keep mentioning Stalin to say that Franco was not as evil as Stalin was?

I agree with that.

But the fact that Stalin was "more evil" doesn't make Franco "good" by comparison.

I think it is about being anti-Communist more than anything else, so as I commented before if someone prevents their nation falling to Communism then you side with them on this issue.

Communism is a political ideology. It's a system of thought. There's nothing tangible about it, it only exists inside human minds.

How can you claim to support self-determination if you're ok with killing people due to the thoughts in their minds?

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Most of those were military men captured, and put into those camps.

This is a "fact" that you've pulled out of your ass, because you didn't have anything else.

Not, that I support that.

Glad to hear it.

I never said I truly support Franco.

What I'm defending is mostly Franco's economy in the Spanish Miracle.

I'm defending the right to support Franco how wrong he may have been, so long as people can support FDR, or Churchill.

No, the moral equivalency still fails.

Chris Kyle killed more than 3 times as many people as the most prolific serial killer in American history. Do you think that makes him 3 times as evil?

Well, if Churchill, and FDR aren't any better than Franco, why do so many people in the West support them?

You misunderstand me.

I think that Churchill and FDR were much better than Franco

What about Truman?

Him too.

So Truman is better than Franco? Truman who dropped Atomic Bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki when the Japanese were already beginning a surrender process, but he was responsible for murdering innocent people because he wanted to show the Soviets America had the Atomic Bomb....and Truman is better than Franco?

Bizarro.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

If a geographical section of the country rebels militarily, then that's a war.

Franco sent a little less than half a million of his own citizens to camps or their deaths, in peacetime.

Your moral equivalency fails on numerous levels.

Most of those were military men captured, and put into those camps.

This is a "fact" that you've pulled out of your ass, because you didn't have anything else.

Not, that I support that.

Glad to hear it.

I never said I truly support Franco.

What I'm defending is mostly Franco's economy in the Spanish Miracle.

I'm defending the right to support Franco how wrong he may have been, so long as people can support FDR, or Churchill.

No, the moral equivalency still fails.

Chris Kyle killed more than 3 times as many people as the most prolific serial killer in American history. Do you think that makes him 3 times as evil?

Who is Chris Kyle I have never heard of him?

An American sniper in Iraq. There's a movie about him.

He had the most confirmed kills of any sniper in US military history - and then he was killed by a soldier with PTSD that he was working with, and had taken to a shooting range.

Okay thanks, well that Chris Kyle was in a military situation so he was doing his job.

Serial killers are killing people who are no threat to anyone and are killing because they get enjoyment from it.

I'm glad that you agree that not all deaths are the same.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

So killing ones own citizens is an abomination.

Well you better go tell that to those who support Abraham Lincoln.

If a geographical section of the country rebels militarily, then that's a war.

Franco sent a little less than half a million of his own citizens to camps or their deaths, in peacetime.

Your moral equivalency fails on numerous levels.

Stalin killed his own citizens and most of them not during a war situation, again the 7 million Ukranians deliberately starved to death happen in 1932-1933, yet Churchill and FDR never demanded that Stalin be put to the rope.

Also during the near 50 years Eastern Europe given to the Communist rule, thousands and thousands of those Stalin butchers lived happily and the British and Americans never one time demanded that Stalin's butchers be arrested and put on trial.

Lazar Kaganovich who was the architect of the Holomodor lived until 1991, yet the British and Americans did not demand he was arrested and put on trial for Crimes Against Humanity for being directly responsible for 7 million people being deliberately starved to death in a non wartime situation and just because they "were in the way"

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Lazar Kaganovich - Wikipedia

This article from the New York Times announcing his death at the age of 97 years of age does not even mention he was the architect of the Holomodor or even mention the Holomodor.

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L. M. Kaganovich, Stalwart of Stalin, Dies at 97

No shit.


Stalin was a shitfuck. Amongst the worst people who have ever lived.

How is that relevant to the post you responded to?

Because you keep saying that Franco killed his own citizens, not because they disagreed with him though he saw them as a threat to Spain because they were Communists.

Stalin had 7 million Ukranians starved to death because they were in the way, they were starved to death just to reduce the population number, they were not a threat to the existence of the Soviet Union.

So you keep mentioning Stalin to say that Franco was not as evil as Stalin was?

I agree with that.

But the fact that Stalin was "more evil" doesn't make Franco "good" by comparison.

I think it is about being anti-Communist more than anything else, so as I commented before if someone prevents their nation falling to Communism then you side with them on this issue.

Communism is a political ideology. It's a system of thought. There's nothing tangible about it, it only exists inside human minds.

How can you claim to support self-determination if you're ok with killing people due to the thoughts in their minds?

Well Fascism is also a political ideology, same as Communism.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Most of those were military men captured, and put into those camps.

This is a "fact" that you've pulled out of your ass, because you didn't have anything else.

Not, that I support that.

Glad to hear it.

I never said I truly support Franco.

What I'm defending is mostly Franco's economy in the Spanish Miracle.

I'm defending the right to support Franco how wrong he may have been, so long as people can support FDR, or Churchill.

No, the moral equivalency still fails.

Chris Kyle killed more than 3 times as many people as the most prolific serial killer in American history. Do you think that makes him 3 times as evil?

Who is Chris Kyle I have never heard of him?

An American sniper in Iraq. There's a movie about him.

He had the most confirmed kills of any sniper in US military history - and then he was killed by a soldier with PTSD that he was working with, and had taken to a shooting range.

Okay thanks, well that Chris Kyle was in a military situation so he was doing his job.

Serial killers are killing people who are no threat to anyone and are killing because they get enjoyment from it.

I'm glad that you agree that not all deaths are the same.

I don't think I commented that all deaths were the same.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Worse in what sense?

In the context of World War II, FDR and Churchill killed their enemies. Franco killed his own citizens.

There is no moral equivalency there.

So killing ones own citizens is an abomination.

Well you better go tell that to those who support Abraham Lincoln.

If a geographical section of the country rebels militarily, then that's a war.

Franco sent a little less than half a million of his own citizens to camps or their deaths, in peacetime.

Your moral equivalency fails on numerous levels.

Worse in what sense?

In the context of World War II, FDR and Churchill killed their enemies. Franco killed his own citizens.

There is no moral equivalency there.

Stalin killed his own citizens and most of them not during a war situation, again the 7 million Ukranians deliberately starved to death happen in 1932-1933, yet Churchill and FDR never demanded that Stalin be put to the rope.

Also during the near 50 years Eastern Europe given to the Communist rule, thousands and thousands of those Stalin butchers lived happily and the British and Americans never one time demanded that Stalin's butchers be arrested and put on trial.

Lazar Kaganovich who was the architect of the Holomodor lived until 1991, yet the British and Americans did not demand he was arrested and put on trial for Crimes Against Humanity for being directly responsible for 7 million people being deliberately starved to death in a non wartime situation and just because they "were in the way"

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Lazar Kaganovich - Wikipedia

This article from the New York Times announcing his death at the age of 97 years of age does not even mention he was the architect of the Holomodor or even mention the Holomodor.

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L. M. Kaganovich, Stalwart of Stalin, Dies at 97

No shit.


Stalin was a shitfuck. Amongst the worst people who have ever lived.

How is that relevant to the post you responded to?

Because you keep saying that Franco killed his own citizens, not because they disagreed with him though he saw them as a threat to Spain because they were Communists.

Stalin had 7 million Ukranians starved to death because they were in the way, they were starved to death just to reduce the population number, they were not a threat to the existence of the Soviet Union.

• Because of the allied Potsdam, and Yalta Conference Soviet takeover of Poland, gave that Jewish Communist Jakub Berman to imprison up to 500,000 Polish people for political crimes, many of these were Armia Krajowa Polish patriots who fought the Nazis vigorously.

The fact is the Communists took away the opposition in that exact manner.

Totalitarians from both ends of the political Spectrum are like that... Nazis and communists in other words.

What side of the spectrum are those?

Fascism is moderate Socialism, and Communism is extreme Socialism.

 

[jillian]

Catalonia was on the Marxist side (losers) during Spanish Civil War. They have been rejected at the polls. BTW Ernest Hemingway blows.
Thousands rally for Spanish unity

antifa?

thanks so much for trolling and spreading Russian propaganda.

damn, you trumptards are the biggest morons on the planet.

 

[francoHFW]

Worse in what sense?

In the context of World War II, FDR and Churchill killed their enemies. Franco killed his own citizens.

There is no moral equivalency there.

So killing ones own citizens is an abomination.

Well you better go tell that to those who support Abraham Lincoln.

If a geographical section of the country rebels militarily, then that's a war.

Franco sent a little less than half a million of his own citizens to camps or their deaths, in peacetime.

Your moral equivalency fails on numerous levels.

Most of those were military men captured, and put into those camps.
Not, that I support that.

I never said I truly support Franco.

What I'm defending is mostly Franco's economy in the Spanish Miracle.

I'm defending the right to support Franco how wrong he may have been, so long as people can support FDR, or Churchill.

Democracy is always better than fascism... Franco finally allowed tourism in the 60s but Spain's economy really grew only after he died. Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead!! That's Saturday Night Live 1976 by the way...

Spanish miracle - Wikipedia

I know all about it my British aunt built the Casablanca bar in 1964 and we my father was involved in a tennis club on the Costa Del Sol also so I lived some time under Franco it was all about tourism... Spanish people were still disappearing if they hit a pedestrian or drugs other stuff no trials no juries pretty scary stuff... Conservative expats loved the safety... Closet Nazis LOL...

 

[theDoctorisIn]

This is a "fact" that you've pulled out of your ass, because you didn't have anything else.

Glad to hear it.



No, the moral equivalency still fails.

Chris Kyle killed more than 3 times as many people as the most prolific serial killer in American history. Do you think that makes him 3 times as evil?

Well, if Churchill, and FDR aren't any better than Franco, why do so many people in the West support them?

You misunderstand me.

I think that Churchill and FDR were much better than Franco

What about Truman?

Him too.

So Truman is better than Franco? Truman who dropped Atomic Bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki when the Japanese were already beginning a surrender process, but he was responsible for murdering innocent people because he wanted to show the Soviets America had the Atomic Bomb....and Truman is better than Franco?

Bizarro.

I don't know why you're having such a hard time wrapping your head around this. You're a nationalist, after all.

Truman killed the enemy that we were at war with. Franco killed his own citizens.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

So killing ones own citizens is an abomination.

Well you better go tell that to those who support Abraham Lincoln.

If a geographical section of the country rebels militarily, then that's a war.

Franco sent a little less than half a million of his own citizens to camps or their deaths, in peacetime.

Your moral equivalency fails on numerous levels.

Stalin killed his own citizens and most of them not during a war situation, again the 7 million Ukranians deliberately starved to death happen in 1932-1933, yet Churchill and FDR never demanded that Stalin be put to the rope.

Also during the near 50 years Eastern Europe given to the Communist rule, thousands and thousands of those Stalin butchers lived happily and the British and Americans never one time demanded that Stalin's butchers be arrested and put on trial.

Lazar Kaganovich who was the architect of the Holomodor lived until 1991, yet the British and Americans did not demand he was arrested and put on trial for Crimes Against Humanity for being directly responsible for 7 million people being deliberately starved to death in a non wartime situation and just because they "were in the way"

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Lazar Kaganovich - Wikipedia

This article from the New York Times announcing his death at the age of 97 years of age does not even mention he was the architect of the Holomodor or even mention the Holomodor.

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L. M. Kaganovich, Stalwart of Stalin, Dies at 97

No shit.


Stalin was a shitfuck. Amongst the worst people who have ever lived.

How is that relevant to the post you responded to?

Because you keep saying that Franco killed his own citizens, not because they disagreed with him though he saw them as a threat to Spain because they were Communists.

Stalin had 7 million Ukranians starved to death because they were in the way, they were starved to death just to reduce the population number, they were not a threat to the existence of the Soviet Union.

• Because of the allied Potsdam, and Yalta Conference Soviet takeover of Poland, gave that Jewish Communist Jakub Berman to imprison up to 500,000 Polish people for political crimes, many of these were Armia Krajowa Polish patriots who fought the Nazis vigorously.

The fact is the Communists took away the opposition in that exact manner.

Totalitarians from both ends of the political Spectrum are like that... Nazis and communists in other words.

What side of the spectrum are those?

Fascism is moderate Socialism, and Communism is extreme Socialism.

Yes there is Socialism in both.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

No, republicanism has the same meaning in the US.

This country exists because "republicans" fought against a monarch, and created a Republic.


And as for your "whataboutism", you are welcome to search my posts to find a single one where I "openly admired" a Communist dictator.

I already found one where you openly admired a fascist one.

Okay then about Republicanism in America also.

I refer to Leftists in general openly admire Communist Dictators.

Well, here's the thing - you're not talking to "leftists in general".

You're talking to me. I am not responsible for what others on the left believe. I am only responsible for what I believe - just as you are only responsible for what you believe.

We are discussing our beliefs - yours, and mine - not the beliefs of vaguely defined unnamed groups.

All these people are long dead Franco, Pinochet, Videla, so I don't know why all the excitement we are in 2017 we do not live in the past. Some people want to live in the past of course but that is not my problem, I live in today and tomorrow.

Ok, well - right here, today - you praised a fascist dictator as a "GREAT man".

Why are you now taking issue with the fact that I'm trying to discuss a post you made less than half an hour ago?

Yes I did but he's been dead for decades.

I'm not taking an issue, I'm saying why all the excitement about someone who has been dead for decades? I do not exist in the past, I exist in today and tomorrow.

Dead and all 3 nazis have been rejected by their countries. Evil bastards.

This old fella fought the fascists in Spain and lived down the road from me in his later years. He was a local legend.
BBC - Gogledd Ddwyrain - Twm Sbaen

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Well, if Churchill, and FDR aren't any better than Franco, why do so many people in the West support them?

You misunderstand me.

I think that Churchill and FDR were much better than Franco

What about Truman?

Him too.

So Truman is better than Franco? Truman who dropped Atomic Bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki when the Japanese were already beginning a surrender process, but he was responsible for murdering innocent people because he wanted to show the Soviets America had the Atomic Bomb....and Truman is better than Franco?

Bizarro.

I don't know why you're having such a hard time wrapping your head around this. You're a nationalist, after all.

Truman killed the enemy that we were at war with. Franco killed his own citizens.

So, the enemy can't be within their own nation?

BTW, in Dresden a nearly 100% civilian target, sounds more serial killer like, no?