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What should be the limit to this right to beat people up. Suppose somebody is talking on the bus and you are trying to read. Should you be able to stand up and punch them in the face? Suppose somebody says the don't like your shirt. Should you be allowed to haul off and punch them? Suppose you're in a really bad mood and somebody says hi. Should you be able to assault them for invading your brooding privacy?
It's a case by case thing. We all have our own standard. For me, you go to a political rally with over ten thousand people and interrupt the speech, you are looking for a punch and you deserve it, period.

Goodness, what a classy and civilized world YOU live in. That how it works at the monster truck rallies, is it?
Monster truck? Nah... But yes, it's the way a Trump rally works. You don't like it? Leave!


Never mind Cecilie, she's one of those elitist establishment types that looks down her nose at us little people.

Hope you enjoyed the Opera @Cecilie, don't forget to have an extra helping of pretentiousness with your caviar.

I do enjoy opera, thank you, and if I'm supposed to be ashamed of not being ignorant white trash like you, you have the wrong woman.

Meanwhile, you can throw around all the empty labels and buzzwords you like, and it won't make Trump, or you, conservative or right-wing. Nor will it make me the least bit interested in having your approval. You don't like me? Good. Must mean I'm 100% correct.

You're defending a man for behaving as a Presidential candidate in a way that would be utterly unacceptable in a "little person", and dismissing any objection to such vulgar, low-class behavior as "elitist". And your opinion should be valuable because . . . ?
How do you feel about Hillary's role in threatening and insulting Bill's victims of sexual predation?
You sound like you're nearing 70. Guess back then women put up with a lot of abuse from men......right?
Do you find it curious that Hillary has a total of 8 female supporters under the age of 25? Do you have a theory as to why that is?Is it that old vast Right Wing Conspiracy again?
 
Has anyone noticed that the only people who are opposing Trump is this thread are liberals?

Has anyone noticed that Trump supporters simply call everyone who opposes Trump "liberal" because their tiny minds can't wrap around the fact that it's conservatives who are most against him? Real conservatives, not half-assed jumped-up Johnny-Come-Lately nouveaux conservatives like them. The left is contemptuous of him, as nearly everyone who isn't a carnival sideshow freak is, but they have no desire to stop his candidacy. On the contrary, they're HOPING you dimwits manage to get him in the general election, so they can enjoy watching the media sandbag him with everything they're holding back now.
The media barely even has any power now. Haven't you been watching what is going on?

Yeah, I'm watching a plurality of barely-Republican voters drunk on celebrity and reality-TV thinking they're a majority of Americans, because apparently, Trump worship negates the ability to do math. One-quarter to one-third of Republican voters is not even remotely enough to give Trump the Presidency, and the people he needs to make that happen either already hate him, or haven't really paid too much attention other to enjoy the spectacle in passing, kinda like rubbernecking at a car accident.

Don't be naive. The media hasn't made any effort at all to stop Trump. They're pumping him and his bullshit up for the ratings right now, and they're just hoping his supporters continue to be stupid enough to make him the candidate. The media is powerless? The media singlehandedly created your candidate, hon. And when they're done using him, they're going to beat him and you to death with his own bullshit.
I would be careful putting up numbers dear. The DEM turnout in Nevada was down 30% from last time.
Your party is going to do what it did in the last mid terms. Sit on their fucking couches on election day.
REPs are political pragmatists. They know how critical it is to elect a REP President this time.
Some may have to hold their noses but they WILL turn out in historic numbers for Trump and prevent Hillary, assuming she hasn't quit for 'health reasons' two weeks before the FBI perp-walks her out of her mansion, from ever setting foot in the Oval Office again.
Blame fucking Debbie. She told Biden and Warren to piss off. Their services were not required.
 
Responding to your post 'Boss'.
I agree Trump needs to now be very careful when he goes after Cruz. There's a balance Trump is a genius at and that's knowing when and how badly to defeat his opposition.
Many people would be surprised at how many businessmen have done battle against Trump over the decades who now deeply respect him for his 'take no prisoner win at any cost attitude'. America is pleading for such a President. The Primary results are proof of this fact. The fact that at this point everyone with a brain knows Trump will win the nomination should send chills down the Clinton camp's spine.
At this point they don't even know if she is going to be 'The First Presidential Candidate With A Vagina AND a Stack of FBI First Degree Felony Charges' against her'. (Yes yes here have been other candidate with vaginas).
The fact that Trump was able to beat Cruz's' ass in Nevada so badly IMO suggests that Trump will now back off and the majority of Cruz supporters, some very grudgingly will end up voting for Trump. Bottom line for REPs is to put Trump into the Oval Office and put possibly 5-6 REP SCJs on the bench in Trump's two terms. Nothing else matters now.
 
If you watch his speech tonight, Cruz claimed that he is "the only one who has beaten and can beat Donald Trump". Whenever he says that, it reminds us how he got it - the voter violation trick and the lies about Carson are still irritating to a LOT of voters, especially Trump supporters. He will pay for the dirty tricks, and it certainly looks like he's paying for them now.

I will caution you here to respect Reagan's 11th Commandment. This kind of rhetoric is unnecessary and caustic... you are alienating voters who you will need in the general. If Trump and his supporters continue to pile on Cruz like this, you will not have the support from his supporters because you will have driven them away by being assholes. You need to really think about that right now because after this primary is over it's too late to repair the damage you're doing. I understand it's politics and you're trying to win the nomination for your candidate... that's what Cruz has been doing and Rubio and everyone else... it's a tough and brutal race... but you're in the lead and it appears to be insurmountable... don't get cocky. Now is the time to back off and show some respect and dignity for those who are supporting your opponents. You cannot win the general election with 40% of the GOP vote.
It's very kind of you to make it look like a piece of advice (except for the "asshole" part, which is humiliation from anger).
It's NOT politics - I don't do that in a forum... How many people see this?
If you read carefully, it's not hard to see my post describes what we think when Cruz says those things, and it's genuine. Does it hurt some of the Cruz supporters? Yeah, I bet so. You seem to be an example. While I do not want to drag you into the debate we had the other day (I think we've both made our cases pretty clear in that thread), I'd like to point out that a LOT of voters (Cruz supporters included) may not share your positive views towards what the Cruz campaign has done so far.
That being said, I want to make it crystal clear that on this forum, I say what I want to say. I'm NOT here to solicit support for any candidate, and I won't speak like a salesman, calculating what is best for the commodity he sells.

I'm speaking to you and Trump... you're about to ass up and lose the election because of egotistical cockiness. Stop it with the smear and jeer, you don't need to do it... you're beating Ted Cruz soundly. If you continue this tone... or more importantly, if Trump continues this tone, the Cruz voters are going to be lost and that's about 20% of the GOP vote that you're going to need in order to win. It's not about you being a salesman, it's about wising up and not being a smart ass. You can't fragment the party and still win the election, there are not enough votes for anyone to do that. So grow up, act like you have some sense and stop being a dick.

Cruz' PACS sent out mailers like every candidate's PACs do... I get shit in the mail every single day that looks like some official government document warning me how I am in violation of the new ACA laws and I need to contact them to review my options for insurance. I get keys in the mail telling me that I may have won a new car... Banks send me blank checks I can write for an instant line of credit (at 22% interest) This stuff happens every day in every adult's life... it's not sleazy or unethical, it's sales. A staffer repeated a story from CNN which was given to them by the Carson campaign. It made it sound like Carson was leaving the race... that's not Ted Cruz doing a goddamn thing and it's certainly not Ted Cruz standing on a national stage calling Dr. Carson "a damaged person with a pathological disease." And last I checked, Cruz publicly apologized to Carson face to face during the next debate. Has Trump apologized for ANY of his caustic remarks to ANYONE?

So again... I beg you.. I beg Mr. Trump... not because of anything other than the fact that I want Republicans to win this election... STOP this SHIT NOW before you do irrevocable damage. You are offending people who you need the support of... is that fact not sinking in?
Now it looks even more like an advice, so let me tell you the truth: I bet the Trump campaign has a clear idea on what to do. Believe me, there are a lot of very smart people working passionately to make a real change. If you care enough, you are more than welcomed to send an email to the campaign team making your case. Talking to me on a forum will not really help.
 
Now it looks even more like an advice, so let me tell you the truth: I bet the Trump campaign has a clear idea on what to do. Believe me, there are a lot of very smart people working passionately to make a real change. If you care enough, you are more than welcomed to send an email to the campaign team making your case. Talking to me on a forum will not really help.

I've sent him emails and people much more influential than me have sent him emails. I'm responding to you because you're the one here spewing this talking point that needed to have been dropped two weeks ago. You sound like a droning liberal and you're senselessly attacking a good man. What IS your point? Are you actively TRYING to piss off Cruz supporters so that they absolutely WILL NOT support Trump in November? Do the Clinton's have you on the payroll?

I wish that I could say that Trump is smart enough to know when to back off but I heard him out there yesterday trashing and bashing Cruz some more over a campaign ad. Why? He has basically a double-digit lead over Cruz in every state but Texas. The only thing he is accomplishing at this point is to humiliate Cruz and his supporters and they are not going to continue to endure that and then turn around and support him in November. If you and Trump believe that, you've lost your damn minds.
 
Wow, you must have really pissed off that clown! So much so that she has admitted the dirty tricks of the media and openly claimed that they are gonna "use" the media to tear down the Trump campaign! Some of the leftists, they are just pathetic and delusional.
BTW, I think you like Trump more in the future.

Well I am still supporting Ted Cruz in the primaries and hope he can pull off a miracle upset... but after South Carolina, I am starting to accept the writing may be on the wall and we may have to go with Trump. He's not my ideal candidate but I can certainly support him over the Socialist... whichever one they nominate.
Cruz probably won't even win Texas.

Rubio doesn't really have a prayer either.

Cruz will win Texas by 5-10% over Trump. However, that may be his only win. I don't think Rubio can win Florida. Super Tuesday will tell the story... we'll know who the GOP nominee will be by then and it's looking like Trump more and more.

Honestly, I thought Trump would do worse in SC after his comments about Bush and Iraq in the debates. When his support came through there, that was enough to convince me... he's for real, his support is solid. I doubt anyone is going to beat him. That said, I vote my convictions in the primaries and my convictions are for Ted Cruz.

Its less about Trump and more about the people who are fed up with these establishment hacks in government. Fed up with their lies, fed up with being mocked and ridiculed by their own party.

If you work for a company that shits on their employees during a down economy the employees will grit their teeth and bare it. But when the economy improves what happens, first chance they get the employees tell the company to go fuck themselves and leave. Trump is the first candidate in a long time who's not bought and paid for by the establishment, people finally have an alternative they don't have to hold their nose and vote for some GOP establishment hack this time around.

The Twinkie Defense was first used my Harvey Milk who won the murder case. Second Twinkie Defense was used by union bakery workers for Hostess who closed the bakery down, went through the courts and it opened back up again with non-union workers, Union lost. You can find Hostess Twinkies on grocery shelves again that taste just as good as the old ones.
No they are not! Like Classic Coke there's something just not the same. To me the new Twinkies aren't as spongy. They seem like they have too much binder.
 
I love it. If the Democrats and the Liberals on USMB respect their own polling and continue to preach that Hillary will easily defeat Donald Trump, why in the hell are they starting one thread after another on USMB trying to smear Trump. Common sense would dictate that they would want Trump to win the Republican nomination were that truly the case. Are the Liberals on USMB totally stupid or are they actually scared shitless?
 
Wow, you must have really pissed off that clown! So much so that she has admitted the dirty tricks of the media and openly claimed that they are gonna "use" the media to tear down the Trump campaign! Some of the leftists, they are just pathetic and delusional.
BTW, I think you like Trump more in the future.

Well I am still supporting Ted Cruz in the primaries and hope he can pull off a miracle upset... but after South Carolina, I am starting to accept the writing may be on the wall and we may have to go with Trump. He's not my ideal candidate but I can certainly support him over the Socialist... whichever one they nominate.
I'm a Texan. The Trump campaign is working very hard to beat Cruz in his home state. The energy here is tremendous. I'm not sure if we will win, but we can certainly make sure that Cruz won't win with a big margin here in Texas.
Cruz probably will lose steam completely and consequently lose Texas.

His promise to beat Trump after losing primary after primary to Rubio is starting to wear thin(his supporters do not look energized now).

I know my stepfather has lost hope that Cruz can win.
If you watch his speech tonight, Cruz claimed that he is "the only one who has beaten and can beat Donald Trump". Whenever he says that, it reminds us how he got it - the voter violation trick and the lies about Carson are still irritating to a LOT of voters, especially Trump supporters. He will pay for the dirty tricks, and it certainly looks like he's paying for them now.

Who is "us"? You and the naive, gullible mouse in your pocket?
 
It's a case by case thing. We all have our own standard. For me, you go to a political rally with over ten thousand people and interrupt the speech, you are looking for a punch and you deserve it, period.

Goodness, what a classy and civilized world YOU live in. That how it works at the monster truck rallies, is it?
Monster truck? Nah... But yes, it's the way a Trump rally works. You don't like it? Leave!


Never mind Cecilie, she's one of those elitist establishment types that looks down her nose at us little people.

Hope you enjoyed the Opera @Cecilie, don't forget to have an extra helping of pretentiousness with your caviar.

I do enjoy opera, thank you, and if I'm supposed to be ashamed of not being ignorant white trash like you, you have the wrong woman.

Meanwhile, you can throw around all the empty labels and buzzwords you like, and it won't make Trump, or you, conservative or right-wing. Nor will it make me the least bit interested in having your approval. You don't like me? Good. Must mean I'm 100% correct.

You're defending a man for behaving as a Presidential candidate in a way that would be utterly unacceptable in a "little person", and dismissing any objection to such vulgar, low-class behavior as "elitist". And your opinion should be valuable because . . . ?
How do you feel about Hillary's role in threatening and insulting Bill's victims of sexual predation?
You sound like you're nearing 70. Guess back then women put up with a lot of abuse from men......right?
Do you find it curious that Hillary has a total of 8 female supporters under the age of 25? Do you have a theory as to why that is?Is it that old vast Right Wing Conspiracy again?

Well, I'm DEEPLY distressed by ageist insults from an ignoramus who assumes that "Doesn't worship Trump = MUST be a Hillary fan!" That demonstrates a level of brilliance that makes your opinion terribly important to me.

Since you're a Trump fanboy and, by definition, stupid as a fucking stump, I'll be kind enough to point out that the previous paragraph was sarcasm. And then I will explain that a "paragraph" is a subdivision of a written composition that consists of one or more sentences, deals with one point or gives the words of one speaker, and begins on a new usually indented line, since I know that confusion is a big part of life for you, and I'm feeling charitable.

Do you find it curious that you can't find one single post EVER from me saying anything positive about Hillary? Or is this the first time this fact - like all facts, apparently - has entered your head?

Feel free to demand explanations and defenses of Hillary from me IF and WHEN you find any proof that I'm supporting her, fucktard. And just to stave off that pesky confusion, proof would be something which shows that something else is true or correct.

You're welcome.
 
Report: LePage urged Republican governors to disavow Trump less than week before endorsement
Source: Portland Press Herald

Gov. Paul LePage privately called on his fellow Republican governors to disavow Donald Trump less than a week before LePage publicly endorsed the Republican presidential front-runner, according a newspaper report published Saturday.

The New York Times reported that LePage erupted in frustration at a Washington, D.C., meeting of Republican governors on Feb. 20. Sitting around a boardroom one day after being warned that Trump’s nomination would doom the party in November’s elections, LePage urged his fellow governors to write an open letter “to the people” disavowing the divisive front-runner, the Times reported.

On Friday, six days later, LePage told Boston radio talk show host Howie Carr that he was now supporting Trump. LePage had previously supported New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie for president, but Christie had dropped out of the race and ended up endorsing Trump hours before LePage did on Friday.

Noting that the Times did not cite a source for the governor’s “supposed remarks,” made in a private governors-only meeting that was closed to media and most staff, Peter Steele, director of communications for LePage, said Saturday the governor endorsed Trump because they both have a business background and they both come from outside the political establishment.

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Read more: Report: LePage urged Republican governors to disavow Trump less than week before endorsement - The Portland Press Herald / Maine Sunday Telegram
 
Has anyone noticed that the only people who are opposing Trump is this thread are liberals?

Has anyone noticed that Trump supporters simply call everyone who opposes Trump "liberal" because their tiny minds can't wrap around the fact that it's conservatives who are most against him? Real conservatives, not half-assed jumped-up Johnny-Come-Lately nouveaux conservatives like them. The left is contemptuous of him, as nearly everyone who isn't a carnival sideshow freak is, but they have no desire to stop his candidacy. On the contrary, they're HOPING you dimwits manage to get him in the general election, so they can enjoy watching the media sandbag him with everything they're holding back now.
The media barely even has any power now. Haven't you been watching what is going on?

Yeah, I'm watching a plurality of barely-Republican voters drunk on celebrity and reality-TV thinking they're a majority of Americans, because apparently, Trump worship negates the ability to do math. One-quarter to one-third of Republican voters is not even remotely enough to give Trump the Presidency, and the people he needs to make that happen either already hate him, or haven't really paid too much attention other to enjoy the spectacle in passing, kinda like rubbernecking at a car accident.

Don't be naive. The media hasn't made any effort at all to stop Trump. They're pumping him and his bullshit up for the ratings right now, and they're just hoping his supporters continue to be stupid enough to make him the candidate. The media is powerless? The media singlehandedly created your candidate, hon. And when they're done using him, they're going to beat him and you to death with his own bullshit.
I would be careful putting up numbers dear. The DEM turnout in Nevada was down 30% from last time.
Your party is going to do what it did in the last mid terms. Sit on their fucking couches on election day.
REPs are political pragmatists. They know how critical it is to elect a REP President this time.
Some may have to hold their noses but they WILL turn out in historic numbers for Trump and prevent Hillary, assuming she hasn't quit for 'health reasons' two weeks before the FBI perp-walks her out of her mansion, from ever setting foot in the Oval Office again.
Blame fucking Debbie. She told Biden and Warren to piss off. Their services were not required.

I would be careful calling women with 50 IQ points over you "dear", asshole.

I would also be careful claiming personal possession of a party you just joined yesterday on behalf of Donald Fucking Trump to someone who became interested in politics during the Reagan Era, you nouveaux-conservative pinhead.

You just keep crowing about how you and your little cadre of celebrity-worshipping asshats are going to exploit a splintered primary field to force a poufy-haired con artist on everyone, and I'll see you when you're demanding that everyone "hold their noses" and vote for your worthless huckster, and they tell you to shove it up your ass. Good luck with that, Chuckles.
 
If you watch his speech tonight, Cruz claimed that he is "the only one who has beaten and can beat Donald Trump". Whenever he says that, it reminds us how he got it - the voter violation trick and the lies about Carson are still irritating to a LOT of voters, especially Trump supporters. He will pay for the dirty tricks, and it certainly looks like he's paying for them now.

I will caution you here to respect Reagan's 11th Commandment. This kind of rhetoric is unnecessary and caustic... you are alienating voters who you will need in the general. If Trump and his supporters continue to pile on Cruz like this, you will not have the support from his supporters because you will have driven them away by being assholes. You need to really think about that right now because after this primary is over it's too late to repair the damage you're doing. I understand it's politics and you're trying to win the nomination for your candidate... that's what Cruz has been doing and Rubio and everyone else... it's a tough and brutal race... but you're in the lead and it appears to be insurmountable... don't get cocky. Now is the time to back off and show some respect and dignity for those who are supporting your opponents. You cannot win the general election with 40% of the GOP vote.
It's very kind of you to make it look like a piece of advice (except for the "asshole" part, which is humiliation from anger).
It's NOT politics - I don't do that in a forum... How many people see this?
If you read carefully, it's not hard to see my post describes what we think when Cruz says those things, and it's genuine. Does it hurt some of the Cruz supporters? Yeah, I bet so. You seem to be an example. While I do not want to drag you into the debate we had the other day (I think we've both made our cases pretty clear in that thread), I'd like to point out that a LOT of voters (Cruz supporters included) may not share your positive views towards what the Cruz campaign has done so far.
That being said, I want to make it crystal clear that on this forum, I say what I want to say. I'm NOT here to solicit support for any candidate, and I won't speak like a salesman, calculating what is best for the commodity he sells.

I'm speaking to you and Trump... you're about to ass up and lose the election because of egotistical cockiness. Stop it with the smear and jeer, you don't need to do it... you're beating Ted Cruz soundly. If you continue this tone... or more importantly, if Trump continues this tone, the Cruz voters are going to be lost and that's about 20% of the GOP vote that you're going to need in order to win. It's not about you being a salesman, it's about wising up and not being a smart ass. You can't fragment the party and still win the election, there are not enough votes for anyone to do that. So grow up, act like you have some sense and stop being a dick.

Cruz' PACS sent out mailers like every candidate's PACs do... I get shit in the mail every single day that looks like some official government document warning me how I am in violation of the new ACA laws and I need to contact them to review my options for insurance. I get keys in the mail telling me that I may have won a new car... Banks send me blank checks I can write for an instant line of credit (at 22% interest) This stuff happens every day in every adult's life... it's not sleazy or unethical, it's sales. A staffer repeated a story from CNN which was given to them by the Carson campaign. It made it sound like Carson was leaving the race... that's not Ted Cruz doing a goddamn thing and it's certainly not Ted Cruz standing on a national stage calling Dr. Carson "a damaged person with a pathological disease." And last I checked, Cruz publicly apologized to Carson face to face during the next debate. Has Trump apologized for ANY of his caustic remarks to ANYONE?

So again... I beg you.. I beg Mr. Trump... not because of anything other than the fact that I want Republicans to win this election... STOP this SHIT NOW before you do irrevocable damage. You are offending people who you need the support of... is that fact not sinking in?
Now it looks even more like an advice, so let me tell you the truth: I bet the Trump campaign has a clear idea on what to do. Believe me, there are a lot of very smart people working passionately to make a real change. If you care enough, you are more than welcomed to send an email to the campaign team making your case. Talking to me on a forum will not really help.

I bet they have very little idea what to do. Making fun of handicapped people is not the mark of a candidate with a clear, strategic plan of action. Their whole campaign stragegy is, "Be shocking as often as possible so that we get publicity. The droolers will vote for me no matter what I do."
 

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