AOC: Abortion Ban Is About Fundamentalists Trying To Outlaw Sex


Again, this is closer to the mark than both sides might realize.

I wouldn't support a ban on abortions WITHOUT also having an agreement
with all MEN in that state to refrain from sex unless both they and their
partner agree to responsibility for raising children if pregnancy occurs.

If all MEN would agree to no rape, incest, sex abuse or relationship abuse,
then the only sex that would be lawful is where the partners mutually consent,
including the TERMS and responsibility for having children in cases of pregnancy.

Then all abusive MEN could get screened out to protect women.

I might agree to make sure MEN agree to follow the laws so it doesn't target just the women.

If they can't agree, then that's why the abortion laws are protested.
The MEN need to take equal responsibility NOT TO HAVE SEX IN THE FIRST PLACE,
or more responsibility in cases of coercion, abuse and rape where the woman never consented to begin with!
 

Again, this is closer to the mark than both sides might realize.

I wouldn't support a ban on abortions WITHOUT also having an agreement
with all MEN in that state to refrain from sex unless both they and their
partner agree to responsibility for raising children if pregnancy occurs.

If all MEN would agree to no rape, incest, sex abuse or relationship abuse,
then the only sex that would be lawful is where the partners mutually consent,
including the TERMS and responsibility for having children in cases of pregnancy.

Then all abusive MEN could get screened out to protect women.

I might agree to make sure MEN agree to follow the laws so it doesn't target just the women.

If they can't agree, then that's why the abortion laws are protested.
The MEN need to take equal responsibility NOT TO HAVE SEX IN THE FIRST PLACE,
or more responsibility in cases of coercion, abuse and rape where the woman never consented to begin with!

That the most unrealistic thing I’ve ever heard in my life since life began.
 

Again, this is closer to the mark than both sides might realize.

I wouldn't support a ban on abortions WITHOUT also having an agreement
with all MEN in that state to refrain from sex unless both they and their
partner agree to responsibility for raising children if pregnancy occurs.

If all MEN would agree to no rape, incest, sex abuse or relationship abuse,
then the only sex that would be lawful is where the partners mutually consent,
including the TERMS and responsibility for having children in cases of pregnancy.

Then all abusive MEN could get screened out to protect women.

I might agree to make sure MEN agree to follow the laws so it doesn't target just the women.

If they can't agree, then that's why the abortion laws are protested.
The MEN need to take equal responsibility NOT TO HAVE SEX IN THE FIRST PLACE,
or more responsibility in cases of coercion, abuse and rape where the woman never consented to begin with!

Open legs are the invite.
Pussyhats, close dem' legs......now bitches!!!
 

Again, this is closer to the mark than both sides might realize.

I wouldn't support a ban on abortions WITHOUT also having an agreement
with all MEN in that state to refrain from sex unless both they and their
partner agree to responsibility for raising children if pregnancy occurs.

If all MEN would agree to no rape, incest, sex abuse or relationship abuse,
then the only sex that would be lawful is where the partners mutually consent,
including the TERMS and responsibility for having children in cases of pregnancy.

Then all abusive MEN could get screened out to protect women.

I might agree to make sure MEN agree to follow the laws so it doesn't target just the women.

If they can't agree, then that's why the abortion laws are protested.
The MEN need to take equal responsibility NOT TO HAVE SEX IN THE FIRST PLACE,
or more responsibility in cases of coercion, abuse and rape where the woman never consented to begin with!


Sounds like a contract I need to sign after having been notarized and witnessed by 2 other parties, the actual act of which (probably) should be witnessed by an impartial third party (not Larry Flynt) somewhere behind a one way mirror with a camera going the content of which gets deposited in a safe deposit box in Switzerland only to be opened in the event she decides her drunk night of "woo hoo-ing it" and playing musical matresses was actually ME taking advantage of her, and decides to change her "woo hoo" to a "boo hoo" and then "sue".

My main question is I know it's her body her choice, I know that, I mean, she decides what she's going to do with what's inside of her and who's inside of her on a day by day or sometimes hour by hour basis.

Anyway, I have no say whatsoever about what happens to my potential offsping, she's gonna go running down to planned parenthood if she wants to and there's nothing I can do about it, it IS her body, her choice after all.

UNTIL she decides she wants a huge cash payout.

Then it turns out it IS my baby after all, 110% bub, pay up.

Even IF she doesn't want to keep me in the picture as the guy playing footsie with her, I'm still obligated to give her and whoever he is money for pizza night, because that's all it is, I never get to see RECEIPTS that she bought shoes and clothes with my money, nope, her ass just gets a little fatter as she puts a wad of bills in her back pocket courtesy of double standard Amerika.

If she wants the baby and me, all is well.
If she wants the baby but not me, it's still my baby, 110%, and I'm on the hook.
If she decides she doesn't want the baby or me, she's gonna make an appointment with planned parenthood and there's nothing I can do about it legally.


It 's hers and only hers when she decides she needs to get an abortion, but mine 110% when she wants money, why does the baby only become mine too when she decides she wants money?
 
this is like telling bin biden that he is no longer allowed to meet the daughters of his friends
 
Well that’s not going to work on the rapists that want to have kids. They just have to go to Alabama now and rape some cousin fuckers down there

I have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. For God’s sake, try to make at least a little sense when you post.
You should follow the news
 


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Again, this is closer to the mark than both sides might realize.

I wouldn't support a ban on abortions WITHOUT also having an agreement
with all MEN in that state to refrain from sex unless both they and their
partner agree to responsibility for raising children if pregnancy occurs.

If all MEN would agree to no rape, incest, sex abuse or relationship abuse,
then the only sex that would be lawful is where the partners mutually consent,
including the TERMS and responsibility for having children in cases of pregnancy.

Then all abusive MEN could get screened out to protect women.

I might agree to make sure MEN agree to follow the laws so it doesn't target just the women.

If they can't agree, then that's why the abortion laws are protested.
The MEN need to take equal responsibility NOT TO HAVE SEX IN THE FIRST PLACE,
or more responsibility in cases of coercion, abuse and rape where the woman never consented to begin with!

Enjoying your victimhood?
 
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Again, this is closer to the mark than both sides might realize.

I wouldn't support a ban on abortions WITHOUT also having an agreement
with all MEN in that state to refrain from sex unless both they and their
partner agree to responsibility for raising children if pregnancy occurs.

If all MEN would agree to no rape, incest, sex abuse or relationship abuse,
then the only sex that would be lawful is where the partners mutually consent,
including the TERMS and responsibility for having children in cases of pregnancy.

Then all abusive MEN could get screened out to protect women.

I might agree to make sure MEN agree to follow the laws so it doesn't target just the women.

If they can't agree, then that's why the abortion laws are protested.
The MEN need to take equal responsibility NOT TO HAVE SEX IN THE FIRST PLACE,
or more responsibility in cases of coercion, abuse and rape where the woman never consented to begin with!


Sounds like a contract I need to sign after having been notarized and witnessed by 2 other parties, the actual act of which (probably) should be witnessed by an impartial third party (not Larry Flynt) somewhere behind a one way mirror with a camera going the content of which gets deposited in a safe deposit box in Switzerland only to be opened in the event she decides her drunk night of "woo hoo-ing it" and playing musical matresses was actually ME taking advantage of her, and decides to change her "woo hoo" to a "boo hoo" and then "sue".

My main question is I know it's her body her choice, I know that, I mean, she decides what she's going to do with what's inside of her and who's inside of her on a day by day or sometimes hour by hour basis.

Anyway, I have no say whatsoever about what happens to my potential offsping, she's gonna go running down to planned parenthood if she wants to and there's nothing I can do about it, it IS her body, her choice after all.

UNTIL she decides she wants a huge cash payout.

Then it turns out it IS my baby after all, 110% bub, pay up.

Even IF she doesn't want to keep me in the picture as the guy playing footsie with her, I'm still obligated to give her and whoever he is money for pizza night, because that's all it is, I never get to see RECEIPTS that she bought shoes and clothes with my money, nope, her ass just gets a little fatter as she puts a wad of bills in her back pocket courtesy of double standard Amerika.

If she wants the baby and me, all is well.
If she wants the baby but not me, it's still my baby, 110%, and I'm on the hook.
If she decides she doesn't want the baby or me, she's gonna make an appointment with planned parenthood and there's nothing I can do about it legally.


It 's hers and only hers when she decides she needs to get an abortion, but mine 110% when she wants money, why does the baby only become mine too when she decides she wants money?
That's life.
 

Again, this is closer to the mark than both sides might realize.

I wouldn't support a ban on abortions WITHOUT also having an agreement
with all MEN in that state to refrain from sex unless both they and their
partner agree to responsibility for raising children if pregnancy occurs.

If all MEN would agree to no rape, incest, sex abuse or relationship abuse,
then the only sex that would be lawful is where the partners mutually consent,
including the TERMS and responsibility for having children in cases of pregnancy.

Then all abusive MEN could get screened out to protect women.

I might agree to make sure MEN agree to follow the laws so it doesn't target just the women.

If they can't agree, then that's why the abortion laws are protested.
The MEN need to take equal responsibility NOT TO HAVE SEX IN THE FIRST PLACE,
or more responsibility in cases of coercion, abuse and rape where the woman never consented to begin with!

That the most unrealistic thing I’ve ever heard in my life since life began.

EXACTLY Truth1253
From the place in the process where
Roe V Wade struck down abortion laws,
the issue was Substantive Due Process.
With criminalizing abortion, there was no way for the GOVERNMENT to pursue
investigations into "mitigating factors" without already violating the
woman's due process. Prosecution and defense would already be violating
someone's rights BEFORE proving they had committed an offense that
merits the loss of liberty and protections.

This has not changed. Changing the criteria of the laws
still does not resolve this issue of Substantive Due Process.

The problem is Govt cannot intervene until AFTER a violation has occurred.
But after the point of pregnancy, this targets and affects WOMEN
so the laws are NEVER going to be fair if they only police and
regulate AFTER the point of pregnancy.

However, at the point where both partners are equal in responsibility is
BEFORE having sex and BEFORE pregnancy occurs,
the Government CANNOT intervene in the personal lives
and decisions of people to have sex CONSENSUALLY.

So laws cannot be made at that point either by Govt IMPOSING on people.

This is why it doesn't work at all for Govt to get involved.

The approach that will work is for PEOPLE to decide for themselves
how to follow agreed standards, which is PERSONAL and not for Govt to dictate.

If people want to prevent abortion, and to protect Women (and/or unborn children) from the politics of abortion,
then we'd all have to agree to work personally on plans and standards of conduct
to PREVENT unwanted sex, unwanted pregnancy, unwanted children and abortion
by PREVENTING coercion, rape and any level of relationship abuse or sex abuse.

This clearly can't be done through Govt but must be by consent of the people,
similar to how Prolife outreach works by education and support to prevent abuse and abortion.

Truth1253 the more "ridiculous" and "unrealistic" it gets trying
to legislate through Govt, the more people will realize we need
to take the approach that Prolife advocates use in trying to
resolve and prevent the problems that otherwise lead to abortion.

That's up to people to work this out for ourselves, Govt cannot fix this for us.
 

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