AP: Pena Nieto Says He Told Trump Mexico Would Not Pay For Wall

[kaz]

You misunderstand how Mexicans will pay for the wall. They're not gonna cut a check. They're gonna pay for it with their jobs when Trump taxes the crap out of every product entering the United States from Mexico.

Ahhhh, now I see, before ANY wall can be built, we will then have to eliminate NAFTA and a couple of other trade agreements....

After Obama, that's as simple as a couple executive orders. This isn't Monday morning quarterbacking, I pointed out to you idiots as you cheered him on doing that

 

[The Great Goose]

Since he is not answering the first question, let me try and answer.

At least in 2012.

http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/112/1590/How-much-money-does-the-U-S-give-to-Mexico

Read that.

If the US withholds financial aid, to contribute to the building of the wall....

You think nat will see where I am going?

I was just going to post about withdrawing aid myself.

You can post about all kinds of stuff Trump isnt proposing...that doesnt make it Trumps plan. Want to know why he hasnt told you and didnt tell the Mexican President? I'll give you 2 guesses

I'm not posting stuff he isn't proposing. He's keeping his hand close to his chest on this.

So Trump did propose that? Or you know his secret plan he hasnt told anyone?

Propose what? Like I said, he hasn't revealed how he intends this.

But he has said he intends it. Which unlike 100% of democrats ans republicans, he's worth giving a chance.

 

[The Great Goose]

The U.S. Government gave a total of $209,432,920 to Mexico in 2012.

we should try to fix their economy (teach a poor man to fish...)

We would have to invade mexico in order to do that.

Donald Trump-----relies on his sense of -----I CAN DO IT
VIA NEGOTIATION AND BUSINESS AND LOGIC---have
you not noticed? He has been around a long time

You cant build a viable economy when every corrupt politician takes a cut.

corruption in Mexico is based on the fact of rotten economy

It's racial

 

[irosie91]

You don't even need a physical wall. Just withdraw your troops from around the world and send them to guard the border. Morale will sky rocket for a start.

Withdraw our troops from around the world.

Oh, this just gets better and better!

well a defense force is to defend....

nothing funny about it.

You aren't actually this stupid, are you? You aren't seriously proposing we withdraw our troops from around the world, are you?

Not only that, you would stop our projection of power to protect our interests around the world JUST TO STOP SOME LETTUCE PICKERS!!?!?!

g500 Even "you" <gulp> make a good point-----Mexicans
are really not that much of an issue in the USA as in "DANGER"------the real problem is the very porous border
(the crime syndicate there made TUNNELS) ----the average
Mexican handiman who does flat tires on the street may resort to petty crime---sometimes. But the real crime is stimulated
by PROXIMITY TO THE USA and the POROUS BORDER--
the massive poor man migration is related to the lousy rotten
economy in Mexico. Donald says DEFINE THE PROBLEM-----smart boy that he is

As I just said, our national security is OUR responsibility.

A physical wall isn't even that great an impediment to determined terrorists or drug smugglers. We have technologies which are far more effective, and require far less personnel for interdiction.

I have no doubt----that Trump----clever boy that he is----will be DELIGHTED to take surveillance advice from the PRO's-----he is not going to build the great wall of china ------with a moat at the base

 

[The Great Goose]

Starting to regret this thread yet, Nat?

 

[g5000]

Withdraw our troops from around the world.

Oh, this just gets better and better!

well a defense force is to defend....

nothing funny about it.

You aren't actually this stupid, are you? You aren't seriously proposing we withdraw our troops from around the world, are you?

Not only that, you would stop our projection of power to protect our interests around the world JUST TO STOP SOME LETTUCE PICKERS!!?!?!

g500 Even "you" <gulp> make a good point-----Mexicans
are really not that much of an issue in the USA as in "DANGER"------the real problem is the very porous border
(the crime syndicate there made TUNNELS) ----the average
Mexican handiman who does flat tires on the street may resort to petty crime---sometimes. But the real crime is stimulated
by PROXIMITY TO THE USA and the POROUS BORDER--
the massive poor man migration is related to the lousy rotten
economy in Mexico. Donald says DEFINE THE PROBLEM-----smart boy that he is

As I just said, our national security is OUR responsibility.

A physical wall isn't even that great an impediment to determined terrorists or drug smugglers. We have technologies which are far more effective, and require far less personnel for interdiction.

I have no doubt----that Trump----clever boy that he is----will be DELIGHTED to take surveillance advice from the PRO's-----he is not going to build the great wall of china ------with a moat at the base

It's already happening. These technologies have been being put in place for the past several years.

 

[kaz]

Since he is not answering the first question, let me try and answer.

At least in 2012.

http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/112/1590/How-much-money-does-the-U-S-give-to-Mexico

Read that.

If the US withholds financial aid, to contribute to the building of the wall....

You think nat will see where I am going?

I was just going to post about withdrawing aid myself.

You can post about all kinds of stuff Trump isnt proposing...that doesnt make it Trumps plan. Want to know why he hasnt told you and didnt tell the Mexican President? I'll give you 2 guesses

I'm not posting stuff he isn't proposing. He's keeping his hand close to his chest on this.

So Trump did propose that? Or you know his secret plan he hasnt told anyone?

Propose what? Like I said, he hasn't revealed how he intends this.

But he has said he intends it. Which unlike 100% of democrats ans republicans, he's worth giving a chance.

I posted a link to his plan in post #41

 

[Anathema]

Ahhhh, now I see, before ANY wall can be built, we will then have to eliminate NAFTA and a couple of other trade agreements....

Treaties and trade agreements that should never have been made to begin with.

 

[nat4900]

Here you go:

Pay for the Wall

That is the MOST delusional plan....and Trumpites should be embarrassed to even look be a part of that stupidity....

Let's see, Trump says "on day one I will...." and then..."on day two, Mexico will surrender..."

...AND right wing MORONS ACTUALLY SWALLOW THIS SHIT ????

 

[ClosedCaption]

Since he is not answering the first question, let me try and answer.

At least in 2012.

http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/112/1590/How-much-money-does-the-U-S-give-to-Mexico

Read that.

If the US withholds financial aid, to contribute to the building of the wall....

You think nat will see where I am going?

I was just going to post about withdrawing aid myself.

You can post about all kinds of stuff Trump isnt proposing...that doesnt make it Trumps plan. Want to know why he hasnt told you and didnt tell the Mexican President? I'll give you 2 guesses

I'm not posting stuff he isn't proposing. He's keeping his hand close to his chest on this.

So Trump did propose that? Or you know his secret plan he hasnt told anyone?

Propose what? Like I said, he hasn't revealed how he intends this.

But he has said he intends it. Which unlike 100% of democrats ans republicans, he's worth giving a chance.

So its as I said, you're proposing things Trump never proposed and saying thats his plan. Only he never gave you a plan so you're literally making up a plan NO ONE is proposing and saying its Trumps

 

[kaz]

Ahhhh, now I see, before ANY wall can be built, we will then have to eliminate NAFTA and a couple of other trade agreements....

Treaties and trade agreements that should never have been made to begin with.

It's sad what happened to the party of Reagan. Optimism and confidence has turned to fear and cowardice. American business is the best, we compete better than anyone in open markets. Stay the fuck out of our way

 

[The Great Goose]

irosie91

If you want to help, just shut the fuck up.

Truth suffices on this thread ok? keep your tangled brain out of this.

 

[The Great Goose]

I was just going to post about withdrawing aid myself.

You can post about all kinds of stuff Trump isnt proposing...that doesnt make it Trumps plan. Want to know why he hasnt told you and didnt tell the Mexican President? I'll give you 2 guesses

I'm not posting stuff he isn't proposing. He's keeping his hand close to his chest on this.

So Trump did propose that? Or you know his secret plan he hasnt told anyone?

Propose what? Like I said, he hasn't revealed how he intends this.

But he has said he intends it. Which unlike 100% of democrats ans republicans, he's worth giving a chance.

So its as I said, you're proposing things Trump never proposed and saying thats his plan. Only he never gave you a plan so you're literally making up a plan NO ONE is proposing and saying its Trumps

no.

 

[nat4900]

Donald Trump-----relies on his sense of -----I CAN DO IT
VIA NEGOTIATION AND BUSINESS AND LOGIC---have you not noticed? He has been around a long time

Here, rosie.......LOL

Trump's 3,500 lawsuits unprecedented for a presidential nominee

Exclusive: Trump's 3,500 lawsuits unprecedented for a presidential nominee

 

[kaz]

Here you go:

Pay for the Wall

That is the MOST delusional plan....and Trumpites should be embarrassed to even look be a part of that stupidity....

Let's see, Trump says "on day one I will...." and then..."on day two, Mexico will surrender..."

...AND right wing MORONS ACTUALLY SWALLOW THIS SHIT ????

I know you don't read, your sad government education, but I'm against making Mexico pay for the wall. However, look at the blatantly obvious you posted. $24 billion a year is sent from the US to Mexico. If he cuts off wire transfers, that money goes to a crawl. Mexico would have no choice but to pay. And that's his plan.

It's butt obvious, just turn on your brain. Partisanship overriding the ability to see the obvious is just bizarre to me. $24 billion a year to Mexico shut off, that would destroy them. They'd have to pay for the wall

 

[paulitician]

The better question is, 'Who here still believes that Trump ever said he's giving a Mexico a choice?'

In the past, he'd have needed congress. But since Obama has established the Presidency as a dictatorship, that isn't required anymore. He can just declare an executive action and do it

Yup. The Clinton Bootlickers just can't grasp the fact he never said he was giving Mexico a choice on this. He's not the lying corrupt Clintons. He's a leader with courage. Good on em.

He's a chicken shit who thinks Americans can't compete in a free market, but I do believe he'll follow through on this

Did you watch his speech in Mexico? The man's not your lying corrupt Clintons. He's a leader with courage. Things are gonna change in regards to Border Security and Immigration. And it doesn't matter how much that upsets you Clinton Bootlickers. It is time for change. Most Americans are craving it.

 

[irosie91]

well a defense force is to defend....

nothing funny about it.

You aren't actually this stupid, are you? You aren't seriously proposing we withdraw our troops from around the world, are you?

Not only that, you would stop our projection of power to protect our interests around the world JUST TO STOP SOME LETTUCE PICKERS!!?!?!

g500 Even "you" <gulp> make a good point-----Mexicans
are really not that much of an issue in the USA as in "DANGER"------the real problem is the very porous border
(the crime syndicate there made TUNNELS) ----the average
Mexican handiman who does flat tires on the street may resort to petty crime---sometimes. But the real crime is stimulated
by PROXIMITY TO THE USA and the POROUS BORDER--
the massive poor man migration is related to the lousy rotten
economy in Mexico. Donald says DEFINE THE PROBLEM-----smart boy that he is

As I just said, our national security is OUR responsibility.

A physical wall isn't even that great an impediment to determined terrorists or drug smugglers. We have technologies which are far more effective, and require far less personnel for interdiction.

I have no doubt----that Trump----clever boy that he is----will be DELIGHTED to take surveillance advice from the PRO's-----he is not going to build the great wall of china ------with a moat at the base

It's already happening. These technologies have been being put in place for the past several years.

yes. I believe that his use of the term "WALL" is poetic
and symbolic and an analogy

 

[The Great Goose]

Here you go:

Pay for the Wall

That is the MOST delusional plan....and Trumpites should be embarrassed to even look be a part of that stupidity....

Let's see, Trump says "on day one I will...." and then..."on day two, Mexico will surrender..."

...AND right wing MORONS ACTUALLY SWALLOW THIS SHIT ????

no. A lot of left AND right believe him

 

[irosie91]

Here you go:

Pay for the Wall

That is the MOST delusional plan....and Trumpites should be embarrassed to even look be a part of that stupidity....

Let's see, Trump says "on day one I will...." and then..."on day two, Mexico will surrender..."

...AND right wing MORONS ACTUALLY SWALLOW THIS SHIT ????

I know you don't read, your sad government education, but I'm against making Mexico pay for the wall. However, look at the blatantly obvious you posted. $24 billion a year is sent from the US to Mexico. If he cuts off wire transfers, that money goes to a crawl. Mexico would have no choice but to pay. And that's his plan.

It's butt obvious, just turn on your brain. Partisanship overriding the ability to see the obvious is just bizarre to me. $24 billion a year to Mexico shut off, that would destroy them. They'd have to pay for the wall

nope Kaz----he is not out to destroy Mexico----he is a businessman-------even in the distant past----slave owners did not murder their own slaves (except for the romans that
got sexually involved)

 

[The Great Goose]

Here you go:

Pay for the Wall

That is the MOST delusional plan....and Trumpites should be embarrassed to even look be a part of that stupidity....

Let's see, Trump says "on day one I will...." and then..."on day two, Mexico will surrender..."

...AND right wing MORONS ACTUALLY SWALLOW THIS SHIT ????

I know you don't read, your sad government education, but I'm against making Mexico pay for the wall. However, look at the blatantly obvious you posted. $24 billion a year is sent from the US to Mexico. If he cuts off wire transfers, that money goes to a crawl. Mexico would have no choice but to pay. And that's his plan.

It's butt obvious, just turn on your brain. Partisanship overriding the ability to see the obvious is just bizarre to me. $24 billion a year to Mexico shut off, that would destroy them. They'd have to pay for the wall

nope Kaz----he is not out to destroy Mexico----he is a businessman-------even in the distant past----slave owners did not murder their own slaves (except for the romans that
got sexually involved)

wtf? did you just call mexico america's slave???