Are the anti-science zealots accepting anthropogenic climate change yet?


Recognized by who ?

You ?
Whom.

No. not by me. By these folks:

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AMERICAN SCIENTIFIC SOCIETIES​


Statement on Climate Change from 18 Scientific Associations​

"Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver." (2009)2
  • AAAS emblem
    American Association for the Advancement of Science​
    "Based on well-established evidence, about 97% of climate scientists have concluded that human-caused climate change is happening." (2014)3
  • ACS emblem
    American Chemical Society​
    "The Earth’s climate is changing in response to increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases (GHGs) and particulate matter in the atmosphere, largely as the result of human activities." (2016-2019)4
  • AGU emblem
    American Geophysical Union​
    "Based on extensive scientific evidence, it is extremely likely that human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases, are the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century. There is no alterative explanation supported by convincing evidence." (2019)5
  • AMA emblem
    American Medical Association​
    "Our AMA ... supports the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s fourth assessment report and concurs with the scientific consensus that the Earth is undergoing adverse global climate change and that anthropogenic contributions are significant." (2019)6
  • AMS emblem
    American Meteorological Society​
    "Research has found a human influence on the climate of the past several decades ... The IPCC (2013), USGCRP (2017), and USGCRP (2018) indicate that it is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-twentieth century." (2019)7
  • APS emblem
    American Physical Society​
    "Earth's changing climate is a critical issue and poses the risk of significant environmental, social and economic disruptions around the globe. While natural sources of climate variability are significant, multiple lines of evidence indicate that human influences have had an increasingly dominant effect on global climate warming observed since the mid-twentieth century." (2015)8
  • GSA emblem
    The Geological Society of America​
    "The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2011), the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2013) and the U.S. Global Change Research Program (Melillo et al., 2014) that global climate has warmed in response to increasing concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO2) and other greenhouse gases ... Human activities (mainly greenhouse-gas emissions) are the dominant cause of the rapid warming since the middle 1900s (IPCC, 2013)." (2015)9

SCIENCE ACADEMIES​


International Academies: Joint Statement​

"Climate change is real. There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities (IPCC 2001)." (2005, 11 international science academies)10
  • UNSAS emblem
    U.S. National Academy of Sciences​
    "Scientists have known for some time, from multiple lines of evidence, that humans are changing Earth’s climate, primarily through greenhouse gas emissions."11

U.S. GOVERNMENT AGENCIES​


  • USGCRP emblem
    U.S. Global Change Research Program​
    "Earth’s climate is now changing faster than at any point in the history of modern civilization, primarily as a result of human activities." (2018, 13 U.S. government departments and agencies)12

INTERGOVERNMENTAL BODIES​


  • IPCC emblem
    Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change​
    “Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, many of the observed changes are unprecedented over decades to millennia. The atmosphere and ocean have warmed, the amounts of snow and ice have diminished, and sea level has risen.”13

    “Human influence on the climate system is clear, and recent anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases are the highest in history. Recent climate changes have had widespread impacts on human and natural systems.”14

OTHER RESOURCES​


List of Worldwide Scientific Organizations​

The following page lists the nearly 200 worldwide scientific organizations that hold the position that climate change has been caused by human action.​

U.S. Agencies​

The following page contains information on what federal agencies are doing to adapt to climate change.​

*Technically, a “consensus” is a general agreement of opinion, but the scientific method steers us away from this to an objective framework. In science, facts or observations are explained by a hypothesis (a statement of a possible explanation for some natural phenomenon), which can then be tested and retested until it is refuted (or disproved).
As scientists gather more observations, they will build off one explanation and add details to complete the picture. Eventually, a group of hypotheses might be integrated and generalized into a scientific theory, a scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena.

In the interests of recognizing the opposing viewpoint:







Sure thing, olfraud. They all get funding by supporting the fraud.

Leave it to an idiot, like you, to not understand how that works.
 




Climatology stopped being part of the science community when it abandoned the scientific method.
Please document your alleged rejection of climatologists from the scientific community.

List all who have been expelled from the National Academy of Sciences or any other interdisciplinary scientific academy or society.

It sounds as if it is your ideological dogma that compels you to make such fake charges.
 

Other countries buy into the cradle to grave crap too.

Your appeal to that simply says that the U.S. is the one thing keeping us from making some seriously stupid decisions.
The United Sates, along with Saudi Arabia and Indonesia, are the hotbeds of science denialism, but that does not mean that the fringe element of dogmatic ideologues, impervious to the ever-mounting evidence, is anything more than that.

Whether all the world's scientific institutions, academies, and societies are corrupt or are all ignorant regarding the science, - either way duping virtually all the nations on earth who have ratified the Paris Agreement - is a comprehensive paranoia, indeed.

... impervious to the ever-mounting evidence ...

Whoa ... you have evidence of climate change? ... so far you've relied on political consensus ... which isn't evidence ... generally, the Alarmists use statistics, which are easily manipulated and disdained as evidence in science ... only politicians use statistics ... from "statistics don't lie, but liars use statistics" we can derive "LIES, DAMNED LIES AND STATISTICS" -- Benjamin Disraeli ...

For over 200 years, we had universal consensus about Newton's Laws of Gravity and Motion ... only one person dared to think otherwise ... Albert Einstein's 1905 paper on Special Relativity was published without citations ... no one had ever considered this before ... not only did Einstein provide the rigid mathematical proof of Special Relativity, the principles were easily demonstrated in any university lab ... consensus immediately changed while that edition of Annalen der Physik was still warm from the presses ... if 100% of the world's scientists can change their collective mind in an instant, consensus is worthless in science ... (I only made a quick scan of the paper itself, here's the link to the English version) ...

The CO2 portion of AGW Theory lacks both these conditions ... there's a serious gap in the mathematical proof and there's no demonstration that man-kind's CO2 has anything more that a trivial effect on global temperatures ... thus I ask for this evidence no one else seems to know about ...

I don't know why my fellow denialists disdain Climatology so much ... it's certainly deeper than any biologist or chemist would understand ... what biologists or chemists learn in first year physics is all they'll every use ... anything to do with the atmosphere is physics physics physics, and all that God-awful math that goes along with physics physics physics ... fluid mechanics with heaping doses of chemistry and geology and we have meteorology ... now blend in with astrophysics and we have climatology ...

"Appealing to Authority" is a logical fallacy ... I have the deepest respect for biologists who brought us this Covid vaccine ... amazing workmanship ... but that doesn't mean I'd trust them with a sling psychrometer around children ... once we get to Navier-Stokes-land, the typical scientist pees their pants ... this is the consensus you rely on? ... <sicilian voice>"morons, all of them"</sicilian voice> ...
I expect that the science-denying ideologues will persist in attacking the world's scientific academies, societies, and organizations as well as the 197 nations and all governmental agencies that acknowledge the science.

Their being in a tizzy has no impact upon science.
 

Other countries buy into the cradle to grave crap too.

Your appeal to that simply says that the U.S. is the one thing keeping us from making some seriously stupid decisions.
The United Sates, along with Saudi Arabia and Indonesia, are the hotbeds of science denialism, but that does not mean that the fringe element of dogmatic ideologues, impervious to the ever-mounting evidence, is anything more than that.

Whether all the world's scientific institutions, academies, and societies are corrupt or are all ignorant regarding the science, - either way duping virtually all the nations on earth who have ratified the Paris Agreement - is a comprehensive paranoia, indeed.

... impervious to the ever-mounting evidence ...

Whoa ... you have evidence of climate change? ... so far you've relied on political consensus ... which isn't evidence ... generally, the Alarmists use statistics, which are easily manipulated and disdained as evidence in science ... only politicians use statistics ... from "statistics don't lie, but liars use statistics" we can derive "LIES, DAMNED LIES AND STATISTICS" -- Benjamin Disraeli ...

For over 200 years, we had universal consensus about Newton's Laws of Gravity and Motion ... only one person dared to think otherwise ... Albert Einstein's 1905 paper on Special Relativity was published without citations ... no one had ever considered this before ... not only did Einstein provide the rigid mathematical proof of Special Relativity, the principles were easily demonstrated in any university lab ... consensus immediately changed while that edition of Annalen der Physik was still warm from the presses ... if 100% of the world's scientists can change their collective mind in an instant, consensus is worthless in science ... (I only made a quick scan of the paper itself, here's the link to the English version) ...

The CO2 portion of AGW Theory lacks both these conditions ... there's a serious gap in the mathematical proof and there's no demonstration that man-kind's CO2 has anything more that a trivial effect on global temperatures ... thus I ask for this evidence no one else seems to know about ...

I don't know why my fellow denialists disdain Climatology so much ... it's certainly deeper than any biologist or chemist would understand ... what biologists or chemists learn in first year physics is all they'll every use ... anything to do with the atmosphere is physics physics physics, and all that God-awful math that goes along with physics physics physics ... fluid mechanics with heaping doses of chemistry and geology and we have meteorology ... now blend in with astrophysics and we have climatology ...

"Appealing to Authority" is a logical fallacy ... I have the deepest respect for biologists who brought us this Covid vaccine ... amazing workmanship ... but that doesn't mean I'd trust them with a sling psychrometer around children ... once we get to Navier-Stokes-land, the typical scientist pees their pants ... this is the consensus you rely on? ... <sicilian voice>"morons, all of them"</sicilian voice> ...
I expect that the science-denying ideologues will persist in attacking the world's scientific academies, societies, and organizations as well as the 197 nations and all governmental agencies that acknowledge the science.

Their being in a tizzy has no impact upon science.

Their [sic] being in a tizzy has no impact upon science.

Neither does consensus ... and it's "there", try not to spelt like a moron ...
 




Climatology stopped being part of the science community when it abandoned the scientific method.
Please document your alleged rejection of climatologists from the scientific community.

List all who have been expelled from the National Academy of Sciences or any other interdisciplinary scientific academy or society.

It sounds as if it is your ideological dogma that compels you to make such fake charges.




One of the leading lights of your religious movement famously said that climatology experiments didn't need to be repeatable.

That is a fundamental REQUIREMENT of the scientific method. Fail to follow the scientific method and you are at best a pseudo science. At worst you are a religious nutjob.

I'll let you choose which you are.
 




Climatology stopped being part of the science community when it abandoned the scientific method.
Please document your alleged rejection of climatologists from the scientific community.

List all who have been expelled from the National Academy of Sciences or any other interdisciplinary scientific academy or society.

It sounds as if it is your ideological dogma that compels you to make such fake charges.
You already got a link to the Oregon Petition, Schmendrick.
 

Other countries buy into the cradle to grave crap too.

Your appeal to that simply says that the U.S. is the one thing keeping us from making some seriously stupid decisions.
The United Sates, along with Saudi Arabia and Indonesia, are the hotbeds of science denialism, but that does not mean that the fringe element of dogmatic ideologues, impervious to the ever-mounting evidence, is anything more than that.

Whether all the world's scientific institutions, academies, and societies are corrupt or are all ignorant regarding the science, - either way duping virtually all the nations on earth who have ratified the Paris Agreement - is a comprehensive paranoia, indeed.

... impervious to the ever-mounting evidence ...

Whoa ... you have evidence of climate change? ... so far you've relied on political consensus ... which isn't evidence ... generally, the Alarmists use statistics, which are easily manipulated and disdained as evidence in science ... only politicians use statistics ... from "statistics don't lie, but liars use statistics" we can derive "LIES, DAMNED LIES AND STATISTICS" -- Benjamin Disraeli ...

For over 200 years, we had universal consensus about Newton's Laws of Gravity and Motion ... only one person dared to think otherwise ... Albert Einstein's 1905 paper on Special Relativity was published without citations ... no one had ever considered this before ... not only did Einstein provide the rigid mathematical proof of Special Relativity, the principles were easily demonstrated in any university lab ... consensus immediately changed while that edition of Annalen der Physik was still warm from the presses ... if 100% of the world's scientists can change their collective mind in an instant, consensus is worthless in science ... (I only made a quick scan of the paper itself, here's the link to the English version) ...

The CO2 portion of AGW Theory lacks both these conditions ... there's a serious gap in the mathematical proof and there's no demonstration that man-kind's CO2 has anything more that a trivial effect on global temperatures ... thus I ask for this evidence no one else seems to know about ...

I don't know why my fellow denialists disdain Climatology so much ... it's certainly deeper than any biologist or chemist would understand ... what biologists or chemists learn in first year physics is all they'll every use ... anything to do with the atmosphere is physics physics physics, and all that God-awful math that goes along with physics physics physics ... fluid mechanics with heaping doses of chemistry and geology and we have meteorology ... now blend in with astrophysics and we have climatology ...

"Appealing to Authority" is a logical fallacy ... I have the deepest respect for biologists who brought us this Covid vaccine ... amazing workmanship ... but that doesn't mean I'd trust them with a sling psychrometer around children ... once we get to Navier-Stokes-land, the typical scientist pees their pants ... this is the consensus you rely on? ... <sicilian voice>"morons, all of them"</sicilian voice> ...
I expect that the science-denying ideologues will persist in attacking the world's scientific academies, societies, and organizations as well as the 197 nations and all governmental agencies that acknowledge the science.

Their being in a tizzy has no impact upon science.

Ummm.........but that has been so for almost 20 years. So what? What beyond symbolism has that impacted? Answer? Nothing.

The folks who make western energy policy arent caring a lick. Here...........check the US EIA report from a few months ago.........

https://www.eia.gov/analysis/

The 97% "consensus" hasnt done dick in terms of impacting anything outside of the field. Its not even debatable. Only progressives spike the ball based upon symbolic stuff. Only matters who is winning and who is not.

After 20 years of the "97% consensus", solar/wind still only combine to generate less than 8% of the electricity in the US. By any measure.........laughable. And if you click that EIA report with projections out to 2040, its grim if one is a climate crusader. :abgg2q.jpg:

The "97%......" stuff is as valuable as a fossil in 2021. Meanwhile, the skeptics routinely get to observe the abject failure on the resume's of climate activists. Think of the millions of internet posts over the years that havent added up to dick.:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:
 

Other countries buy into the cradle to grave crap too.

Your appeal to that simply says that the U.S. is the one thing keeping us from making some seriously stupid decisions.
The United Sates, along with Saudi Arabia and Indonesia, are the hotbeds of science denialism, but that does not mean that the fringe element of dogmatic ideologues, impervious to the ever-mounting evidence, is anything more than that.

Whether all the world's scientific institutions, academies, and societies are corrupt or are all ignorant regarding the science, - either way duping virtually all the nations on earth who have ratified the Paris Agreement - is a comprehensive paranoia, indeed.

... impervious to the ever-mounting evidence ...

Whoa ... you have evidence of climate change? ... so far you've relied on political consensus ... which isn't evidence ... generally, the Alarmists use statistics, which are easily manipulated and disdained as evidence in science ... only politicians use statistics ... from "statistics don't lie, but liars use statistics" we can derive "LIES, DAMNED LIES AND STATISTICS" -- Benjamin Disraeli ...

For over 200 years, we had universal consensus about Newton's Laws of Gravity and Motion ... only one person dared to think otherwise ... Albert Einstein's 1905 paper on Special Relativity was published without citations ... no one had ever considered this before ... not only did Einstein provide the rigid mathematical proof of Special Relativity, the principles were easily demonstrated in any university lab ... consensus immediately changed while that edition of Annalen der Physik was still warm from the presses ... if 100% of the world's scientists can change their collective mind in an instant, consensus is worthless in science ... (I only made a quick scan of the paper itself, here's the link to the English version) ...

The CO2 portion of AGW Theory lacks both these conditions ... there's a serious gap in the mathematical proof and there's no demonstration that man-kind's CO2 has anything more that a trivial effect on global temperatures ... thus I ask for this evidence no one else seems to know about ...

I don't know why my fellow denialists disdain Climatology so much ... it's certainly deeper than any biologist or chemist would understand ... what biologists or chemists learn in first year physics is all they'll every use ... anything to do with the atmosphere is physics physics physics, and all that God-awful math that goes along with physics physics physics ... fluid mechanics with heaping doses of chemistry and geology and we have meteorology ... now blend in with astrophysics and we have climatology ...

"Appealing to Authority" is a logical fallacy ... I have the deepest respect for biologists who brought us this Covid vaccine ... amazing workmanship ... but that doesn't mean I'd trust them with a sling psychrometer around children ... once we get to Navier-Stokes-land, the typical scientist pees their pants ... this is the consensus you rely on? ... <sicilian voice>"morons, all of them"</sicilian voice> ...
I expect that the science-denying ideologues will persist in attacking the world's scientific academies, societies, and organizations as well as the 197 nations and all governmental agencies that acknowledge the science.

Their being in a tizzy has no impact upon science.

Ummm.........but that has been so for almost 20 years. So what? What beyond symbolism has that impacted? Answer? Nothing.

The folks who make western energy policy arent caring a lick. Here...........check the US EIA report from a few months ago.........

https://www.eia.gov/analysis/

The 97% "consensus" hasnt done dick in terms of impacting anything outside of the field. Its not even debatable. Only progressives spike the ball based upon symbolic stuff. Only matters who is winning and who is not.

After 20 years of the "97% consensus", solar/wind still only combine to generate less than 8% of the electricity in the US. By any measure.........laughable. And if you click that EIA report with projections out to 2040, its grim if one is a climate crusader. :abgg2q.jpg:

The "97%......" stuff is as valuable as a fossil in 2021. Meanwhile, the skeptics routinely get to observe the abject failure on the resume's of climate activists. Think of the millions of internet posts over the years that havent added up to dick.:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:
The relatively few and increasingly isolated hardcore ideologues who persist in vehemently opposing science will not sabotage the inclusive international effort to mitigate the consequences of anthropogenic climate change, nor cause the scientific community worldwide to falsify its empirical data that increasingly confirms the reality.

If a few crackpots fantasize that global warming is a Chinese hoax contrived to adversely impact U.S. manufacturing, responsible folks need not be concerned about them.

Mayors, especially, are confronted by immediate and disastrous consequences of climate change, and it is not a partisan nor an ideological issue for them. It is a practical one, a growing problem that must be confronted:


Over 140 mayors from cities across the country are calling on congressional leadership today to push for aggressive climate measures in their infrastructure legislation that they say will benefit localities. The group, which ranges from the heads of country’s 10 most populous cities to the leaders of small rural towns, wrote to the lawmakers to press them to address climate change through the lens of equity as the country emerges from the pandemic.
“The climate and equity crises we face are interrelated and have been compounded by Covid-19, and therefore must be addressed through collaborative, holistic thinking and bold, innovative ideas,” the mayors write. The signatories are members of Climate Mayors, a bipartisan group that formed in 2014 and ballooned following the U.S. withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement.
The mayors outlined a host of climate measures, focusing on expanding programs that directly finance cities, promote job quality and help disadvantaged communities. Among the items is at least $4 billion in direct appropriation on top of the Building Resilient Infrastructure and Communities funding to reduce communities’ risks to natural disasters and hazards and at least $200 million to support community development and implementation of wildfire defense plans — just as wildfires ravage a dozen Western states.
 
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The crackpots on the fringe cannot be allowed to compromise the security of the United States over their silly notion that they are licensed to poop into the heavens with impunity:
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"Today, no nation can find lasting security without addressing the climate crisis.
We face all kinds of threats in our line of work, but few of them truly deserve to be called existential.
The climate crisis does. Climate change is making the world more unsafe and we need to act."
[Defense Secretary Calls Climate Change an Existential Threat]
 

Other countries buy into the cradle to grave crap too.

Your appeal to that simply says that the U.S. is the one thing keeping us from making some seriously stupid decisions.
The United Sates, along with Saudi Arabia and Indonesia, are the hotbeds of science denialism, but that does not mean that the fringe element of dogmatic ideologues, impervious to the ever-mounting evidence, is anything more than that.

Whether all the world's scientific institutions, academies, and societies are corrupt or are all ignorant regarding the science, - either way duping virtually all the nations on earth who have ratified the Paris Agreement - is a comprehensive paranoia, indeed.

... impervious to the ever-mounting evidence ...

Whoa ... you have evidence of climate change? ... so far you've relied on political consensus ... which isn't evidence ... generally, the Alarmists use statistics, which are easily manipulated and disdained as evidence in science ... only politicians use statistics ... from "statistics don't lie, but liars use statistics" we can derive "LIES, DAMNED LIES AND STATISTICS" -- Benjamin Disraeli ...

For over 200 years, we had universal consensus about Newton's Laws of Gravity and Motion ... only one person dared to think otherwise ... Albert Einstein's 1905 paper on Special Relativity was published without citations ... no one had ever considered this before ... not only did Einstein provide the rigid mathematical proof of Special Relativity, the principles were easily demonstrated in any university lab ... consensus immediately changed while that edition of Annalen der Physik was still warm from the presses ... if 100% of the world's scientists can change their collective mind in an instant, consensus is worthless in science ... (I only made a quick scan of the paper itself, here's the link to the English version) ...

The CO2 portion of AGW Theory lacks both these conditions ... there's a serious gap in the mathematical proof and there's no demonstration that man-kind's CO2 has anything more that a trivial effect on global temperatures ... thus I ask for this evidence no one else seems to know about ...

I don't know why my fellow denialists disdain Climatology so much ... it's certainly deeper than any biologist or chemist would understand ... what biologists or chemists learn in first year physics is all they'll every use ... anything to do with the atmosphere is physics physics physics, and all that God-awful math that goes along with physics physics physics ... fluid mechanics with heaping doses of chemistry and geology and we have meteorology ... now blend in with astrophysics and we have climatology ...

"Appealing to Authority" is a logical fallacy ... I have the deepest respect for biologists who brought us this Covid vaccine ... amazing workmanship ... but that doesn't mean I'd trust them with a sling psychrometer around children ... once we get to Navier-Stokes-land, the typical scientist pees their pants ... this is the consensus you rely on? ... <sicilian voice>"morons, all of them"</sicilian voice> ...
I expect that the science-denying ideologues will persist in attacking the world's scientific academies, societies, and organizations as well as the 197 nations and all governmental agencies that acknowledge the science.

Their being in a tizzy has no impact upon science.

Ummm.........but that has been so for almost 20 years. So what? What beyond symbolism has that impacted? Answer? Nothing.

The folks who make western energy policy arent caring a lick. Here...........check the US EIA report from a few months ago.........

https://www.eia.gov/analysis/

The 97% "consensus" hasnt done dick in terms of impacting anything outside of the field. Its not even debatable. Only progressives spike the ball based upon symbolic stuff. Only matters who is winning and who is not.

After 20 years of the "97% consensus", solar/wind still only combine to generate less than 8% of the electricity in the US. By any measure.........laughable. And if you click that EIA report with projections out to 2040, its grim if one is a climate crusader. :abgg2q.jpg:

The "97%......" stuff is as valuable as a fossil in 2021. Meanwhile, the skeptics routinely get to observe the abject failure on the resume's of climate activists. Think of the millions of internet posts over the years that havent added up to dick.:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:
The relatively few and increasingly isolated hardcore ideologues who persist in vehemently opposing science will not sabotage the inclusive international effort to mitigate the consequences of anthropogenic climate change, nor cause the scientific community worldwide to falsify its empirical data that increasingly confirms the reality.

If a few crackpots fantasize that global warming is a Chinese hoax contrived to adversely impact U.S. manufacturing, responsible folks need not be concerned about them.

Mayors, especially, are confronted by the disastrous consequences of climate change, and it is not a partisan nor an ideological issue for them. It is a practical one, a growing problem that must be confronted:


Over 140 mayors from cities across the country are calling on congressional leadership today to push for aggressive climate measures in their infrastructure legislation that they say will benefit localities. The group, which ranges from the heads of country’s 10 most populous cities to the leaders of small rural towns, wrote to the lawmakers to press them to address climate change through the lens of equity as the country emerges from the pandemic.
“The climate and equity crises we face are interrelated and have been compounded by Covid-19, and therefore must be addressed through collaborative, holistic thinking and bold, innovative ideas,” the mayors write. The signatories are members of Climate Mayors, a bipartisan group that formed in 2014 and ballooned following the U.S. withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement.
The mayors outlined a host of climate measures, focusing on expanding programs that directly finance cities, promote job quality and help disadvantaged communities. Among the items is at least $4 billion in direct appropriation on top of the Building Resilient Infrastructure and Communities funding to reduce communities’ risks to natural disasters and hazards and at least $200 million to support community development and implementation of wildfire defense plans — just as wildfires ravage a dozen Western states.

You haven't answered my question ... why do you put so much trust in biologists and chemists in matters wholly unrelated to their field of expertise? ... do you also get investment advise from a fast food workers? ...
 
The crackpots on the fringe cannot be allowed to compromise the security of the United States over their silly notion that they are licensed to poop into the heavens with impunity:
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"Today, no nation can find lasting security without addressing the climate crisis.
We face all kinds of threats in our line of work, but few of them truly deserve to be called existential.
The climate crisis does. Climate change is making the world more unsafe and we need to act."
[Defense Secretary Calls Climate Change an Existential Threat]





I love your use of language. Very nazi like.

Hello Nazi! :bye1:
 

Other countries buy into the cradle to grave crap too.

Your appeal to that simply says that the U.S. is the one thing keeping us from making some seriously stupid decisions.
The United Sates, along with Saudi Arabia and Indonesia, are the hotbeds of science denialism, but that does not mean that the fringe element of dogmatic ideologues, impervious to the ever-mounting evidence, is anything more than that.

Whether all the world's scientific institutions, academies, and societies are corrupt or are all ignorant regarding the science, - either way duping virtually all the nations on earth who have ratified the Paris Agreement - is a comprehensive paranoia, indeed.

... impervious to the ever-mounting evidence ...

Whoa ... you have evidence of climate change? ... so far you've relied on political consensus ... which isn't evidence ... generally, the Alarmists use statistics, which are easily manipulated and disdained as evidence in science ... only politicians use statistics ... from "statistics don't lie, but liars use statistics" we can derive "LIES, DAMNED LIES AND STATISTICS" -- Benjamin Disraeli ...

For over 200 years, we had universal consensus about Newton's Laws of Gravity and Motion ... only one person dared to think otherwise ... Albert Einstein's 1905 paper on Special Relativity was published without citations ... no one had ever considered this before ... not only did Einstein provide the rigid mathematical proof of Special Relativity, the principles were easily demonstrated in any university lab ... consensus immediately changed while that edition of Annalen der Physik was still warm from the presses ... if 100% of the world's scientists can change their collective mind in an instant, consensus is worthless in science ... (I only made a quick scan of the paper itself, here's the link to the English version) ...

The CO2 portion of AGW Theory lacks both these conditions ... there's a serious gap in the mathematical proof and there's no demonstration that man-kind's CO2 has anything more that a trivial effect on global temperatures ... thus I ask for this evidence no one else seems to know about ...

I don't know why my fellow denialists disdain Climatology so much ... it's certainly deeper than any biologist or chemist would understand ... what biologists or chemists learn in first year physics is all they'll every use ... anything to do with the atmosphere is physics physics physics, and all that God-awful math that goes along with physics physics physics ... fluid mechanics with heaping doses of chemistry and geology and we have meteorology ... now blend in with astrophysics and we have climatology ...

"Appealing to Authority" is a logical fallacy ... I have the deepest respect for biologists who brought us this Covid vaccine ... amazing workmanship ... but that doesn't mean I'd trust them with a sling psychrometer around children ... once we get to Navier-Stokes-land, the typical scientist pees their pants ... this is the consensus you rely on? ... <sicilian voice>"morons, all of them"</sicilian voice> ...
I expect that the science-denying ideologues will persist in attacking the world's scientific academies, societies, and organizations as well as the 197 nations and all governmental agencies that acknowledge the science.

Their being in a tizzy has no impact upon science.

Ummm.........but that has been so for almost 20 years. So what? What beyond symbolism has that impacted? Answer? Nothing.

The folks who make western energy policy arent caring a lick. Here...........check the US EIA report from a few months ago.........

https://www.eia.gov/analysis/

The 97% "consensus" hasnt done dick in terms of impacting anything outside of the field. Its not even debatable. Only progressives spike the ball based upon symbolic stuff. Only matters who is winning and who is not.

After 20 years of the "97% consensus", solar/wind still only combine to generate less than 8% of the electricity in the US. By any measure.........laughable. And if you click that EIA report with projections out to 2040, its grim if one is a climate crusader. :abgg2q.jpg:

The "97%......" stuff is as valuable as a fossil in 2021. Meanwhile, the skeptics routinely get to observe the abject failure on the resume's of climate activists. Think of the millions of internet posts over the years that havent added up to dick.:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:
The relatively few and increasingly isolated hardcore ideologues who persist in vehemently opposing science will not sabotage the inclusive international effort to mitigate the consequences of anthropogenic climate change, nor cause the scientific community worldwide to falsify its empirical data that increasingly confirms the reality.

If a few crackpots fantasize that global warming is a Chinese hoax contrived to adversely impact U.S. manufacturing, responsible folks need not be concerned about them.

Mayors, especially, are confronted by the disastrous consequences of climate change, and it is not a partisan nor an ideological issue for them. It is a practical one, a growing problem that must be confronted:


Over 140 mayors from cities across the country are calling on congressional leadership today to push for aggressive climate measures in their infrastructure legislation that they say will benefit localities. The group, which ranges from the heads of country’s 10 most populous cities to the leaders of small rural towns, wrote to the lawmakers to press them to address climate change through the lens of equity as the country emerges from the pandemic.
“The climate and equity crises we face are interrelated and have been compounded by Covid-19, and therefore must be addressed through collaborative, holistic thinking and bold, innovative ideas,” the mayors write. The signatories are members of Climate Mayors, a bipartisan group that formed in 2014 and ballooned following the U.S. withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement.
The mayors outlined a host of climate measures, focusing on expanding programs that directly finance cities, promote job quality and help disadvantaged communities. Among the items is at least $4 billion in direct appropriation on top of the Building Resilient Infrastructure and Communities funding to reduce communities’ risks to natural disasters and hazards and at least $200 million to support community development and implementation of wildfire defense plans — just as wildfires ravage a dozen Western states.

You haven't answered my question ... why do you put so much trust in biologists and chemists in matters wholly unrelated to their field of expertise? ... do you also get investment advise from a fast food workers? ...
The appropriate question for an ideological denialist is "Why do you imagine that you know more about climate than climatologists?"

Besides the understandable concerns of the nations mayors confronting the immediate consequences, and the U.S Department of Defense necessarily attuned to the national security repercussions, agriculture is, obviously, seriously impacted.


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Agriculture in a Changing Climate

Changes in climate and extreme weather have already occurred and are increasing challenges for agriculture nationally and globally. Many of the impacts are expected to continue or intensify in the future. Because of the sensitivity of agriculture to weather and climate conditions, these impacts can have substantial direct and indirect effects on farm production and profitability.
The effects of a changing climate and climate variability are already being seen across the Midwest Region; over the past century, temperatures have risen across all seasons, growing seasons have become longer, precipitation patterns have changed, and extreme precipitation events have increased in frequency and severity. The impact of climate on agricultural production in the Midwest varies among years particularly in grain, vegetable, and fruit production. The diversity of the annual and perennial crops across the Midwest creates a range of responses to climate and weather. One of the goals of the Midwest Climate Hub is to work with each of these different commodities to determine the impacts that different conditions have on production.
Climate impacts on livestock and agricultural production are detectable via data-based observations in the United States. The following links give more information on these changes and observations....
 

Other countries buy into the cradle to grave crap too.

Your appeal to that simply says that the U.S. is the one thing keeping us from making some seriously stupid decisions.
The United Sates, along with Saudi Arabia and Indonesia, are the hotbeds of science denialism, but that does not mean that the fringe element of dogmatic ideologues, impervious to the ever-mounting evidence, is anything more than that.

Whether all the world's scientific institutions, academies, and societies are corrupt or are all ignorant regarding the science, - either way duping virtually all the nations on earth who have ratified the Paris Agreement - is a comprehensive paranoia, indeed.

... impervious to the ever-mounting evidence ...

Whoa ... you have evidence of climate change? ... so far you've relied on political consensus ... which isn't evidence ... generally, the Alarmists use statistics, which are easily manipulated and disdained as evidence in science ... only politicians use statistics ... from "statistics don't lie, but liars use statistics" we can derive "LIES, DAMNED LIES AND STATISTICS" -- Benjamin Disraeli ...

For over 200 years, we had universal consensus about Newton's Laws of Gravity and Motion ... only one person dared to think otherwise ... Albert Einstein's 1905 paper on Special Relativity was published without citations ... no one had ever considered this before ... not only did Einstein provide the rigid mathematical proof of Special Relativity, the principles were easily demonstrated in any university lab ... consensus immediately changed while that edition of Annalen der Physik was still warm from the presses ... if 100% of the world's scientists can change their collective mind in an instant, consensus is worthless in science ... (I only made a quick scan of the paper itself, here's the link to the English version) ...

The CO2 portion of AGW Theory lacks both these conditions ... there's a serious gap in the mathematical proof and there's no demonstration that man-kind's CO2 has anything more that a trivial effect on global temperatures ... thus I ask for this evidence no one else seems to know about ...

I don't know why my fellow denialists disdain Climatology so much ... it's certainly deeper than any biologist or chemist would understand ... what biologists or chemists learn in first year physics is all they'll every use ... anything to do with the atmosphere is physics physics physics, and all that God-awful math that goes along with physics physics physics ... fluid mechanics with heaping doses of chemistry and geology and we have meteorology ... now blend in with astrophysics and we have climatology ...

"Appealing to Authority" is a logical fallacy ... I have the deepest respect for biologists who brought us this Covid vaccine ... amazing workmanship ... but that doesn't mean I'd trust them with a sling psychrometer around children ... once we get to Navier-Stokes-land, the typical scientist pees their pants ... this is the consensus you rely on? ... <sicilian voice>"morons, all of them"</sicilian voice> ...
I expect that the science-denying ideologues will persist in attacking the world's scientific academies, societies, and organizations as well as the 197 nations and all governmental agencies that acknowledge the science.

Their being in a tizzy has no impact upon science.

Ummm.........but that has been so for almost 20 years. So what? What beyond symbolism has that impacted? Answer? Nothing.

The folks who make western energy policy arent caring a lick. Here...........check the US EIA report from a few months ago.........

https://www.eia.gov/analysis/

The 97% "consensus" hasnt done dick in terms of impacting anything outside of the field. Its not even debatable. Only progressives spike the ball based upon symbolic stuff. Only matters who is winning and who is not.

After 20 years of the "97% consensus", solar/wind still only combine to generate less than 8% of the electricity in the US. By any measure.........laughable. And if you click that EIA report with projections out to 2040, its grim if one is a climate crusader. :abgg2q.jpg:

The "97%......" stuff is as valuable as a fossil in 2021. Meanwhile, the skeptics routinely get to observe the abject failure on the resume's of climate activists. Think of the millions of internet posts over the years that havent added up to dick.:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:
The relatively few and increasingly isolated hardcore ideologues who persist in vehemently opposing science will not sabotage the inclusive international effort to mitigate the consequences of anthropogenic climate change, nor cause the scientific community worldwide to falsify its empirical data that increasingly confirms the reality.

If a few crackpots fantasize that global warming is a Chinese hoax contrived to adversely impact U.S. manufacturing, responsible folks need not be concerned about them.

Mayors, especially, are confronted by the disastrous consequences of climate change, and it is not a partisan nor an ideological issue for them. It is a practical one, a growing problem that must be confronted:


Over 140 mayors from cities across the country are calling on congressional leadership today to push for aggressive climate measures in their infrastructure legislation that they say will benefit localities. The group, which ranges from the heads of country’s 10 most populous cities to the leaders of small rural towns, wrote to the lawmakers to press them to address climate change through the lens of equity as the country emerges from the pandemic.
“The climate and equity crises we face are interrelated and have been compounded by Covid-19, and therefore must be addressed through collaborative, holistic thinking and bold, innovative ideas,” the mayors write. The signatories are members of Climate Mayors, a bipartisan group that formed in 2014 and ballooned following the U.S. withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement.
The mayors outlined a host of climate measures, focusing on expanding programs that directly finance cities, promote job quality and help disadvantaged communities. Among the items is at least $4 billion in direct appropriation on top of the Building Resilient Infrastructure and Communities funding to reduce communities’ risks to natural disasters and hazards and at least $200 million to support community development and implementation of wildfire defense plans — just as wildfires ravage a dozen Western states.

You haven't answered my question ... why do you put so much trust in biologists and chemists in matters wholly unrelated to their field of expertise? ... do you also get investment advise from a fast food workers? ...
The appropriate question for an ideological denialist is "Why do you imagine that you know more about climate than climatologists?"

Besides the understandable concerns of the nations mayors confronting the immediate consequences, and the U.S Department of Defense necessarily attuned to the national security repercussions, agriculture is, obviously, seriously impacted.


Agriculture in a Changing Climate

Changes in climate and extreme weather have already occurred and are increasing challenges for agriculture nationally and globally. Many of the impacts are expected to continue or intensify in the future. Because of the sensitivity of agriculture to weather and climate conditions, these impacts can have substantial direct and indirect effects on farm production and profitability.
The effects of a changing climate and climate variability are already being seen across the Midwest Region; over the past century, temperatures have risen across all seasons, growing seasons have become longer, precipitation patterns have changed, and extreme precipitation events have increased in frequency and severity. The impact of climate on agricultural production in the Midwest varies among years particularly in grain, vegetable, and fruit production. The diversity of the annual and perennial crops across the Midwest creates a range of responses to climate and weather. One of the goals of the Midwest Climate Hub is to work with each of these different commodities to determine the impacts that different conditions have on production.
Climate impacts on livestock and agricultural production are detectable via data-based observations in the United States. The following links give more information on these changes and observations....





The claim that the "precipitation events" are increasing in severity, and frequency is an outright lie. Anyone who has bothered to to read the historical record would laugh at this claim.

Here's an example of a "precipitation event" that dwarfs ANYTHING we have witnessed in the 20th, or 21st centuries. Yet you idiots trot your lies out and expect thinking people to believe you. You ignorant baboons are a disgrace to science.

California Megaflood: Lessons from a Forgotten Catastrophe

A 43-day storm that began in December 1861 put central and southern California underwater for up to six months, and it could happen again

Geologic evidence shows that truly massive floods, caused by rainfall alone, have occurred in California every 100 to 200 years. Such floods are likely caused by atmospheric rivers: narrow bands of water vapor about a mile above the ocean that extend for thousands of kilometers.

The atmospheric river storms featured in a January 2013 article in Scientific American that I co-wrote with Michael Dettinger, The Coming Megafloods, are responsible for most of the largest historical floods in many western states. The only megaflood to strike the American West in recent history occurred during the winter of 1861-62. California bore the brunt of the damage. This disaster turned enormous regions of the state into inland seas for months, and took thousands of human lives. The costs were devastating: one quarter of California’s economy was destroyed, forcing the state into bankruptcy.

 

Other countries buy into the cradle to grave crap too.

Your appeal to that simply says that the U.S. is the one thing keeping us from making some seriously stupid decisions.
The United Sates, along with Saudi Arabia and Indonesia, are the hotbeds of science denialism, but that does not mean that the fringe element of dogmatic ideologues, impervious to the ever-mounting evidence, is anything more than that.

Whether all the world's scientific institutions, academies, and societies are corrupt or are all ignorant regarding the science, - either way duping virtually all the nations on earth who have ratified the Paris Agreement - is a comprehensive paranoia, indeed.

... impervious to the ever-mounting evidence ...

Whoa ... you have evidence of climate change? ... so far you've relied on political consensus ... which isn't evidence ... generally, the Alarmists use statistics, which are easily manipulated and disdained as evidence in science ... only politicians use statistics ... from "statistics don't lie, but liars use statistics" we can derive "LIES, DAMNED LIES AND STATISTICS" -- Benjamin Disraeli ...

For over 200 years, we had universal consensus about Newton's Laws of Gravity and Motion ... only one person dared to think otherwise ... Albert Einstein's 1905 paper on Special Relativity was published without citations ... no one had ever considered this before ... not only did Einstein provide the rigid mathematical proof of Special Relativity, the principles were easily demonstrated in any university lab ... consensus immediately changed while that edition of Annalen der Physik was still warm from the presses ... if 100% of the world's scientists can change their collective mind in an instant, consensus is worthless in science ... (I only made a quick scan of the paper itself, here's the link to the English version) ...

The CO2 portion of AGW Theory lacks both these conditions ... there's a serious gap in the mathematical proof and there's no demonstration that man-kind's CO2 has anything more that a trivial effect on global temperatures ... thus I ask for this evidence no one else seems to know about ...

I don't know why my fellow denialists disdain Climatology so much ... it's certainly deeper than any biologist or chemist would understand ... what biologists or chemists learn in first year physics is all they'll every use ... anything to do with the atmosphere is physics physics physics, and all that God-awful math that goes along with physics physics physics ... fluid mechanics with heaping doses of chemistry and geology and we have meteorology ... now blend in with astrophysics and we have climatology ...

"Appealing to Authority" is a logical fallacy ... I have the deepest respect for biologists who brought us this Covid vaccine ... amazing workmanship ... but that doesn't mean I'd trust them with a sling psychrometer around children ... once we get to Navier-Stokes-land, the typical scientist pees their pants ... this is the consensus you rely on? ... <sicilian voice>"morons, all of them"</sicilian voice> ...
I expect that the science-denying ideologues will persist in attacking the world's scientific academies, societies, and organizations as well as the 197 nations and all governmental agencies that acknowledge the science.

Their being in a tizzy has no impact upon science.

Ummm.........but that has been so for almost 20 years. So what? What beyond symbolism has that impacted? Answer? Nothing.

The folks who make western energy policy arent caring a lick. Here...........check the US EIA report from a few months ago.........

https://www.eia.gov/analysis/

The 97% "consensus" hasnt done dick in terms of impacting anything outside of the field. Its not even debatable. Only progressives spike the ball based upon symbolic stuff. Only matters who is winning and who is not.

After 20 years of the "97% consensus", solar/wind still only combine to generate less than 8% of the electricity in the US. By any measure.........laughable. And if you click that EIA report with projections out to 2040, its grim if one is a climate crusader. :abgg2q.jpg:

The "97%......" stuff is as valuable as a fossil in 2021. Meanwhile, the skeptics routinely get to observe the abject failure on the resume's of climate activists. Think of the millions of internet posts over the years that havent added up to dick.:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:
The relatively few and increasingly isolated hardcore ideologues who persist in vehemently opposing science will not sabotage the inclusive international effort to mitigate the consequences of anthropogenic climate change, nor cause the scientific community worldwide to falsify its empirical data that increasingly confirms the reality.

If a few crackpots fantasize that global warming is a Chinese hoax contrived to adversely impact U.S. manufacturing, responsible folks need not be concerned about them.

Mayors, especially, are confronted by the disastrous consequences of climate change, and it is not a partisan nor an ideological issue for them. It is a practical one, a growing problem that must be confronted:


Over 140 mayors from cities across the country are calling on congressional leadership today to push for aggressive climate measures in their infrastructure legislation that they say will benefit localities. The group, which ranges from the heads of country’s 10 most populous cities to the leaders of small rural towns, wrote to the lawmakers to press them to address climate change through the lens of equity as the country emerges from the pandemic.
“The climate and equity crises we face are interrelated and have been compounded by Covid-19, and therefore must be addressed through collaborative, holistic thinking and bold, innovative ideas,” the mayors write. The signatories are members of Climate Mayors, a bipartisan group that formed in 2014 and ballooned following the U.S. withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement.
The mayors outlined a host of climate measures, focusing on expanding programs that directly finance cities, promote job quality and help disadvantaged communities. Among the items is at least $4 billion in direct appropriation on top of the Building Resilient Infrastructure and Communities funding to reduce communities’ risks to natural disasters and hazards and at least $200 million to support community development and implementation of wildfire defense plans — just as wildfires ravage a dozen Western states.

You haven't answered my question ... why do you put so much trust in biologists and chemists in matters wholly unrelated to their field of expertise? ... do you also get investment advise from a fast food workers? ...
The appropriate question for an ideological denialist is "Why do you imagine that you know more about climate than climatologists?"

Besides the understandable concerns of the nations mayors confronting the immediate consequences, and the U.S Department of Defense necessarily attuned to the national security repercussions, agriculture is, obviously, seriously impacted.


Agriculture in a Changing Climate

Changes in climate and extreme weather have already occurred and are increasing challenges for agriculture nationally and globally. Many of the impacts are expected to continue or intensify in the future. Because of the sensitivity of agriculture to weather and climate conditions, these impacts can have substantial direct and indirect effects on farm production and profitability.
The effects of a changing climate and climate variability are already being seen across the Midwest Region; over the past century, temperatures have risen across all seasons, growing seasons have become longer, precipitation patterns have changed, and extreme precipitation events have increased in frequency and severity. The impact of climate on agricultural production in the Midwest varies among years particularly in grain, vegetable, and fruit production. The diversity of the annual and perennial crops across the Midwest creates a range of responses to climate and weather. One of the goals of the Midwest Climate Hub is to work with each of these different commodities to determine the impacts that different conditions have on production.
Climate impacts on livestock and agricultural production are detectable via data-based observations in the United States. The following links give more information on these changes and observations....





The claim that the "precipitation events" are increasing in severity, and frequency is an outright lie. Anyone who has bothered to to read the historical record would laugh at this claim.

Here's an example of a "precipitation event" that dwarfs ANYTHING we have witnessed in the 20th, or 21st centuries. Yet you idiots trot your lies out and expect thinking people to believe you. You ignorant baboons are a disgrace to science.

California Megaflood: Lessons from a Forgotten Catastrophe

A 43-day storm that began in December 1861 put central and southern California underwater for up to six months, and it could happen again

Geologic evidence shows that truly massive floods, caused by rainfall alone, have occurred in California every 100 to 200 years. Such floods are likely caused by atmospheric rivers: narrow bands of water vapor about a mile above the ocean that extend for thousands of kilometers.

The atmospheric river storms featured in a January 2013 article in Scientific American that I co-wrote with Michael Dettinger, The Coming Megafloods, are responsible for most of the largest historical floods in many western states. The only megaflood to strike the American West in recent history occurred during the winter of 1861-62. California bore the brunt of the damage. This disaster turned enormous regions of the state into inland seas for months, and took thousands of human lives. The costs were devastating: one quarter of California’s economy was destroyed, forcing the state into bankruptcy.

You must immediately enlighten all scientific academies, societies, and institutions throughout the world, and all the agencies and departments of all the governments throughout the word that they have been duped by a pervasive, mysterious conspiracy, but that you are privy to the truth that eludes them all, and that you are eager to share your exceptional perspicacity with them all.
 

Other countries buy into the cradle to grave crap too.

Your appeal to that simply says that the U.S. is the one thing keeping us from making some seriously stupid decisions.
The United Sates, along with Saudi Arabia and Indonesia, are the hotbeds of science denialism, but that does not mean that the fringe element of dogmatic ideologues, impervious to the ever-mounting evidence, is anything more than that.

Whether all the world's scientific institutions, academies, and societies are corrupt or are all ignorant regarding the science, - either way duping virtually all the nations on earth who have ratified the Paris Agreement - is a comprehensive paranoia, indeed.

... impervious to the ever-mounting evidence ...

Whoa ... you have evidence of climate change? ... so far you've relied on political consensus ... which isn't evidence ... generally, the Alarmists use statistics, which are easily manipulated and disdained as evidence in science ... only politicians use statistics ... from "statistics don't lie, but liars use statistics" we can derive "LIES, DAMNED LIES AND STATISTICS" -- Benjamin Disraeli ...

For over 200 years, we had universal consensus about Newton's Laws of Gravity and Motion ... only one person dared to think otherwise ... Albert Einstein's 1905 paper on Special Relativity was published without citations ... no one had ever considered this before ... not only did Einstein provide the rigid mathematical proof of Special Relativity, the principles were easily demonstrated in any university lab ... consensus immediately changed while that edition of Annalen der Physik was still warm from the presses ... if 100% of the world's scientists can change their collective mind in an instant, consensus is worthless in science ... (I only made a quick scan of the paper itself, here's the link to the English version) ...

The CO2 portion of AGW Theory lacks both these conditions ... there's a serious gap in the mathematical proof and there's no demonstration that man-kind's CO2 has anything more that a trivial effect on global temperatures ... thus I ask for this evidence no one else seems to know about ...

I don't know why my fellow denialists disdain Climatology so much ... it's certainly deeper than any biologist or chemist would understand ... what biologists or chemists learn in first year physics is all they'll every use ... anything to do with the atmosphere is physics physics physics, and all that God-awful math that goes along with physics physics physics ... fluid mechanics with heaping doses of chemistry and geology and we have meteorology ... now blend in with astrophysics and we have climatology ...

"Appealing to Authority" is a logical fallacy ... I have the deepest respect for biologists who brought us this Covid vaccine ... amazing workmanship ... but that doesn't mean I'd trust them with a sling psychrometer around children ... once we get to Navier-Stokes-land, the typical scientist pees their pants ... this is the consensus you rely on? ... <sicilian voice>"morons, all of them"</sicilian voice> ...
I expect that the science-denying ideologues will persist in attacking the world's scientific academies, societies, and organizations as well as the 197 nations and all governmental agencies that acknowledge the science.

Their being in a tizzy has no impact upon science.

Ummm.........but that has been so for almost 20 years. So what? What beyond symbolism has that impacted? Answer? Nothing.

The folks who make western energy policy arent caring a lick. Here...........check the US EIA report from a few months ago.........

https://www.eia.gov/analysis/

The 97% "consensus" hasnt done dick in terms of impacting anything outside of the field. Its not even debatable. Only progressives spike the ball based upon symbolic stuff. Only matters who is winning and who is not.

After 20 years of the "97% consensus", solar/wind still only combine to generate less than 8% of the electricity in the US. By any measure.........laughable. And if you click that EIA report with projections out to 2040, its grim if one is a climate crusader. :abgg2q.jpg:

The "97%......" stuff is as valuable as a fossil in 2021. Meanwhile, the skeptics routinely get to observe the abject failure on the resume's of climate activists. Think of the millions of internet posts over the years that havent added up to dick.:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:
The relatively few and increasingly isolated hardcore ideologues who persist in vehemently opposing science will not sabotage the inclusive international effort to mitigate the consequences of anthropogenic climate change, nor cause the scientific community worldwide to falsify its empirical data that increasingly confirms the reality.

If a few crackpots fantasize that global warming is a Chinese hoax contrived to adversely impact U.S. manufacturing, responsible folks need not be concerned about them.

Mayors, especially, are confronted by the disastrous consequences of climate change, and it is not a partisan nor an ideological issue for them. It is a practical one, a growing problem that must be confronted:


Over 140 mayors from cities across the country are calling on congressional leadership today to push for aggressive climate measures in their infrastructure legislation that they say will benefit localities. The group, which ranges from the heads of country’s 10 most populous cities to the leaders of small rural towns, wrote to the lawmakers to press them to address climate change through the lens of equity as the country emerges from the pandemic.
“The climate and equity crises we face are interrelated and have been compounded by Covid-19, and therefore must be addressed through collaborative, holistic thinking and bold, innovative ideas,” the mayors write. The signatories are members of Climate Mayors, a bipartisan group that formed in 2014 and ballooned following the U.S. withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement.
The mayors outlined a host of climate measures, focusing on expanding programs that directly finance cities, promote job quality and help disadvantaged communities. Among the items is at least $4 billion in direct appropriation on top of the Building Resilient Infrastructure and Communities funding to reduce communities’ risks to natural disasters and hazards and at least $200 million to support community development and implementation of wildfire defense plans — just as wildfires ravage a dozen Western states.

You haven't answered my question ... why do you put so much trust in biologists and chemists in matters wholly unrelated to their field of expertise? ... do you also get investment advise from a fast food workers? ...
The appropriate question for an ideological denialist is "Why do you imagine that you know more about climate than climatologists?"

Besides the understandable concerns of the nations mayors confronting the immediate consequences, and the U.S Department of Defense necessarily attuned to the national security repercussions, agriculture is, obviously, seriously impacted.


Agriculture in a Changing Climate

Changes in climate and extreme weather have already occurred and are increasing challenges for agriculture nationally and globally. Many of the impacts are expected to continue or intensify in the future. Because of the sensitivity of agriculture to weather and climate conditions, these impacts can have substantial direct and indirect effects on farm production and profitability.
The effects of a changing climate and climate variability are already being seen across the Midwest Region; over the past century, temperatures have risen across all seasons, growing seasons have become longer, precipitation patterns have changed, and extreme precipitation events have increased in frequency and severity. The impact of climate on agricultural production in the Midwest varies among years particularly in grain, vegetable, and fruit production. The diversity of the annual and perennial crops across the Midwest creates a range of responses to climate and weather. One of the goals of the Midwest Climate Hub is to work with each of these different commodities to determine the impacts that different conditions have on production.
Climate impacts on livestock and agricultural production are detectable via data-based observations in the United States. The following links give more information on these changes and observations....





The claim that the "precipitation events" are increasing in severity, and frequency is an outright lie. Anyone who has bothered to to read the historical record would laugh at this claim.

Here's an example of a "precipitation event" that dwarfs ANYTHING we have witnessed in the 20th, or 21st centuries. Yet you idiots trot your lies out and expect thinking people to believe you. You ignorant baboons are a disgrace to science.

California Megaflood: Lessons from a Forgotten Catastrophe

A 43-day storm that began in December 1861 put central and southern California underwater for up to six months, and it could happen again

Geologic evidence shows that truly massive floods, caused by rainfall alone, have occurred in California every 100 to 200 years. Such floods are likely caused by atmospheric rivers: narrow bands of water vapor about a mile above the ocean that extend for thousands of kilometers.

The atmospheric river storms featured in a January 2013 article in Scientific American that I co-wrote with Michael Dettinger, The Coming Megafloods, are responsible for most of the largest historical floods in many western states. The only megaflood to strike the American West in recent history occurred during the winter of 1861-62. California bore the brunt of the damage. This disaster turned enormous regions of the state into inland seas for months, and took thousands of human lives. The costs were devastating: one quarter of California’s economy was destroyed, forcing the state into bankruptcy.

You must immediately enlighten all scientific academies, societies, and institutions throughout the world, and all the agencies and departments of all the governments throughout the word that they have been duped by a pervasive, mysterious conspiracy, but that you are privy to the truth that eludes them all, and that you are eager to share your exceptional perspicacity with them all.




You must go fuck yourself. You are a semi sentient toad. I just gave you historical fact that blows the claims of the climatologists right out of the water.

An honest person, which you are not, would say "hey, thank you. I was not aware of those facts" but you resort to non sequitur attacks like the intellectual cripple you are.
 


You must go fuck yourself. You are a semi sentient toad. I just gave you historical fact that blows the claims of the climatologists right out of the water.

An honest person, which you are not, would say "hey, thank you. I was not aware of those facts" but you resort to non sequitur attacks like the intellectual cripple you are.
Whatever data you evoke for your ideological dogma in denial of science has not been concealed from legitimate climatologists, scientists, or the community of nations. All legitimate and relevant empirical data is integrated into their analysis. Your cherry-picked, self-serving snippets are no substitute.

1) Please provide your list of all climatological associations, academies, and societies, anywhere on earth, that reject the documented reality of anthropogenic climate change.​
2) Please name all the scientific institutions, anywhere on earth, that disavow the consensus of climatologists who document the reality of anthropogenic climate change.​
3) Please list all the nations on earth that are in denial of the documented reality of anthropogenic climate change.​

You may become flustered and need to rage and spew your vituperations, but please try to control yourself, be civil, and attempt to address these entreaties to be rational.
 

Recognized by who ?

You ?
Whom.

No. not by me. By these folks:

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AMERICAN SCIENTIFIC SOCIETIES​


Statement on Climate Change from 18 Scientific Associations​

"Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver." (2009)2
  • AAAS emblem
    American Association for the Advancement of Science​
    "Based on well-established evidence, about 97% of climate scientists have concluded that human-caused climate change is happening." (2014)3
  • ACS emblem
    American Chemical Society​
    "The Earth’s climate is changing in response to increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases (GHGs) and particulate matter in the atmosphere, largely as the result of human activities." (2016-2019)4
  • AGU emblem
    American Geophysical Union​
    "Based on extensive scientific evidence, it is extremely likely that human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases, are the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century. There is no alterative explanation supported by convincing evidence." (2019)5
  • AMA emblem
    American Medical Association​
    "Our AMA ... supports the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s fourth assessment report and concurs with the scientific consensus that the Earth is undergoing adverse global climate change and that anthropogenic contributions are significant." (2019)6
  • AMS emblem
    American Meteorological Society​
    "Research has found a human influence on the climate of the past several decades ... The IPCC (2013), USGCRP (2017), and USGCRP (2018) indicate that it is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-twentieth century." (2019)7
  • APS emblem
    American Physical Society​
    "Earth's changing climate is a critical issue and poses the risk of significant environmental, social and economic disruptions around the globe. While natural sources of climate variability are significant, multiple lines of evidence indicate that human influences have had an increasingly dominant effect on global climate warming observed since the mid-twentieth century." (2015)8
  • GSA emblem
    The Geological Society of America​
    "The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2011), the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2013) and the U.S. Global Change Research Program (Melillo et al., 2014) that global climate has warmed in response to increasing concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO2) and other greenhouse gases ... Human activities (mainly greenhouse-gas emissions) are the dominant cause of the rapid warming since the middle 1900s (IPCC, 2013)." (2015)9

SCIENCE ACADEMIES​


International Academies: Joint Statement​

"Climate change is real. There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities (IPCC 2001)." (2005, 11 international science academies)10
  • UNSAS emblem
    U.S. National Academy of Sciences​
    "Scientists have known for some time, from multiple lines of evidence, that humans are changing Earth’s climate, primarily through greenhouse gas emissions."11

U.S. GOVERNMENT AGENCIES​


  • USGCRP emblem
    U.S. Global Change Research Program​
    "Earth’s climate is now changing faster than at any point in the history of modern civilization, primarily as a result of human activities." (2018, 13 U.S. government departments and agencies)12

INTERGOVERNMENTAL BODIES​


  • IPCC emblem
    Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change​
    “Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, many of the observed changes are unprecedented over decades to millennia. The atmosphere and ocean have warmed, the amounts of snow and ice have diminished, and sea level has risen.”13

    “Human influence on the climate system is clear, and recent anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases are the highest in history. Recent climate changes have had widespread impacts on human and natural systems.”14

OTHER RESOURCES​


List of Worldwide Scientific Organizations​

The following page lists the nearly 200 worldwide scientific organizations that hold the position that climate change has been caused by human action.​

U.S. Agencies​

The following page contains information on what federal agencies are doing to adapt to climate change.​

*Technically, a “consensus” is a general agreement of opinion, but the scientific method steers us away from this to an objective framework. In science, facts or observations are explained by a hypothesis (a statement of a possible explanation for some natural phenomenon), which can then be tested and retested until it is refuted (or disproved).
As scientists gather more observations, they will build off one explanation and add details to complete the picture. Eventually, a group of hypotheses might be integrated and generalized into a scientific theory, a scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena.

In the interests of recognizing the opposing viewpoint:


Correlation does not prove causation, dummy.

Where is the science?
 

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