C_Clayton_Jones
Diamond Member
There is no 'right to use my service'. There is no constitutional right to force me to sell my services to you.
What freedom do you think you have that I am infringing by not selling to you?
Just reverse the conversation, and see how it falls apart. If conducting trade (trading goods and services to each other), is a fundamental right.... can the seller also demand that buyers be forced to buy?
I'm a white male Christian Fundamentalist, and I sell lawn mowing services, to fund my Christian Evangelism. I demand you buy my service.
You *MUST* buy my service, or you are violating my economic rights.
Of course that's crazy. You are not required to fund anyone, and nor should I be required to service anyone.
I have just as much right to demand you buy or sell to me, as you have a right demand I buy and sell from you. Which of course is zero.... there is no "right" to demand people engage in trade with you, or me.
Hey man, agree with a lot of but the law says differently.
But one question: how come it is ONLY GAY folks that are denied the service and not ALL sinners?
And why did Governor Brewer say "to date we have not found ONE business owner in the state of Arizona that has had their religious freedom denied"?
Where is that person in AZ that had their religious freedom denied?
There aren't any found so why a law?
Seriously, come on, can't you see politicians grandstanding for nothing on this?
Look at the Kansas law also, Republicans KILLED it also.
These "religious freedom" laws are a JOKE. No one has been denied their religious freedom in AZ.
And the baker with the cake? He serves ALL OTHER SINNERS.
Why would we need a jaywalking ordinance in the middle of the desert 30 miles from the nearest road?
Doesn't matter. I support anything, that supports freedom of religion. No matter what the issue is.
I know of a motel right now, that won't offer a room to a man and a woman that are not married. You show up with different last names, and / or without a rings on the fingers, and they won't give you a single room. You have to purchase two rooms.
Freedom of Religion. That's how that works.
Incorrect.
Refusing to accommodate unmarried couples has nothing to do with freedom of religion and everything to do with the fact that unmarried couples dont constitute a class of persons protected by public accommodations laws in that jurisdiction.