As a Black voter, I find this offensive: ‘What about 9/11?’ Twitter furious after Biden calls Capitol storming ‘worst attack since Civil War"

[colfax_m]

We don't know what happened because no one in power wants to do a real investigations. All that has been done is audits of the same numbers counted over and over again.

Yes, we know what happened. Same thing that happens in every election. Votes were counted and a winner declared.

The only thing that was different this year was that we had a weak minded president who wanted to steal the election because in his mind he was right and the rest of us are evil. The results are his supporters storming the capitol in acts of violence for just that purpose.

The thing you think the other side could have been doing is being used to justify the things that your sided actually did.

Be honest for once Marty, do you think Trump was honest about his complaints regarding the election? Like, what he was saying about what happened was entirely true?

Or do you think he was lying to his supporters because he couldn't handle losing.

Remember, this is about Trump, not some hypothetical SJW that you have created as a boogey man.

 

[martybegan]

We don't know what happened because no one in power wants to do a real investigations. All that has been done is audits of the same numbers counted over and over again.

Yes, we know what happened. Same thing that happens in every election. Votes were counted and a winner declared.

The only thing that was different this year was that we had a weak minded president who wanted to steal the election because in his mind he was right and the rest of us are evil. The results are his supporters storming the capitol in acts of violence for just that purpose.

The thing you think the other side could have been doing is being used to justify the things that your sided actually did.

Be honest for once Marty, do you think Trump was honest about his complaints regarding the election? Like, what he was saying about what happened was entirely true?

Or do you think he was lying to his supporters because he couldn't handle losing.

Remember, this is about Trump, not some hypothetical SJW that you have created as a boogey man.

He probably thinks he was cheated somehow, and nothing I have seen has proven to me that there is zero chance that cheating occurred.

All we have gotten is audits, not investigations.

Everything done in the name of the pandemic made the election process less secure.

 

[colfax_m]

He probably thinks he was cheated somehow, and nothing I have seen has proven to me that there is zero chance that cheating occurred.

All we have gotten is audits, not investigations.

Everything done in the name of the pandemic made the election process less secure.

Dodged the question but whatever.

He thinks he was cheated because he believes he's right and the rest of us are evil. He couldn't accept losing, so he assumes he was cheated. He told us before the election, before any votes were counted.

He decided he was cheated based on his loss and then went looking for ways to make that reality. That in itself demonstrates how unfit for the office he is.

 

[Crepitus]

the nov 3 2020 rigged election was an assault on our democracy*

Don't be stupider than you have to be.

Yet not as stupid as libtards.

That's just not true.

Sorry for your luck.

nobody but you can change the delusional thinking that you do
sorry for your luck

You know, I don't claim to understand your particular brand of stupid, but I do admire your total commitment to it.

You go girl.

WRONG AGAIN....being 1 of those shit stain demonRAT, anti-AMERICAN assholes, tells me you always accuse people of what YOU truly are...but I do admire your total commitment to it.
you go you commie piece of shit

Nope. It's the standard republican M.O. to accuse others of the crimes the republicans have committed.

That's what this whole "China Joe" thing is about, along with the election fraud accusations and calling Democrats nazis and fascists and...


In other words:

 

[martybegan]

He probably thinks he was cheated somehow, and nothing I have seen has proven to me that there is zero chance that cheating occurred.

All we have gotten is audits, not investigations.

Everything done in the name of the pandemic made the election process less secure.

Dodged the question but whatever.

He thinks he was cheated because he believes he's right and the rest of us are evil. He couldn't accept losing, so he assumes he was cheated. He told us before the election, before any votes were counted.

He decided he was cheated based on his loss and then went looking for ways to make that reality. That in itself demonstrates how unfit for the office he is.

He thinks he was cheated for whatever reasons, I think your side cheated because your side believed the trope of him being the most EVUL THING EVAR and for progressives the ends always justify the means.

Your TDS opinion on his fitness for office is about as valid as PETA's comments on a Brisket rub and marinade combo.

 

[Crepitus]

Apparently a few dozen unarmed trespassers really has the Leftards shaken up. Uncle Joe especially. A drunk unarmed guy in a Viking hat almost took control of our government.
Aside from the fact that we are not a democracy but a representative constitutional republic - or at least we were - and that the "attack" was carried out by agents provocateurs of the Democrats in the form of BLM/Antifa confederates dressed as MAGA rally goers and police who with malice aforethought were either were kept away from the Capitol building or allowed the aforementioned BlaM-tifarians to enter the building and in one case assassinated an unarmed rally goer Ashli Babbitt, the absolute ludicrousness of the statement would be laughable were it not for the fact that a large percentage of our population think 9/11 is a convenience store, Pearl Harbor is a grunge band from Seattle and have no idea what the Civil War is.

Fact Check: Biden Calls Capitol Riot 'Worst Attack on Our Democracy Since the Civil War'

Biden is wrong. Not only wasn't the January 6 riot the worst attack on our democracy; it wasn't even the worst attack on the Capitol.

www.breitbart.com

They were not "rally goers"
they were not "protestors"
they were not "drunken partiers"
the were not "rowdy college kids"

They were violent insurgents bent on overthrowing our government in favor of their fascist dictator tRump.

Stop trying to minimize this.

^ what a blow hard

My name is Crepitus, not dOnald tRump.

you told me your name was ---shit stain demonRAT.....

Sigh. Yup you really got me that time. Good for you.

You go play with the other kids now.

 

[colfax_m]

He thinks he was cheated for whatever reasons, I think your side cheated because your side believed the trope of him being the most EVUL THING EVAR and for progressives the ends always justify the means.

And your side hasn't been taught to believe that me and people like me are the most EVUL THING EVAR? Jesus, just looking at the language you've used to describe me would tell me that's exactly how you feel.

So it seems like your attacking one side for doing exactly what your side has been doing.

A rational person would believe there was cheating when they find evidence of that cheat, and not because of personal prejudice.

 

[martybegan]

He thinks he was cheated for whatever reasons, I think your side cheated because your side believed the trope of him being the most EVUL THING EVAR and for progressives the ends always justify the means.

And your side hasn't been taught to believe that me and people like me are the most EVUL THING EVAR? Jesus, just looking at the language you've used to describe me would tell me that's exactly how you feel.

So it seems like your attacking one side for doing exactly what your side has been doing.

A rational person would believe there was cheating when they find evidence of that cheat, and not because of personal prejudice.

No, your stupidity comes at civilizations in cycles, same shit different era, same results.

 

[progressive hunter]

He thinks he was cheated for whatever reasons, I think your side cheated because your side believed the trope of him being the most EVUL THING EVAR and for progressives the ends always justify the means.

And your side hasn't been taught to believe that me and people like me are the most EVUL THING EVAR? Jesus, just looking at the language you've used to describe me would tell me that's exactly how you feel.

So it seems like your attacking one side for doing exactly what your side has been doing.

A rational person would believe there was cheating when they find evidence of that cheat, and not because of personal prejudice.

another day another stack of lies,,, both of you are the most evil thing ever,, just look at what your partisan bullshit has done to this country and future generations,,

and now once again you act like youre the good guys when your the worst,,

 

[BS Filter]

Democrats are continually confused. They often think that an attack on their party is an attack on the USA.

 

[colfax_m]

No, your stupidity comes at civilizations in cycles, same shit different era, same results.

Wow, talk about brushing over the points being made and resorting to some toxic masculinity bullshit.

You really are just being led around by memes, aren't you.

You are the very thing you claim to hate. Someone driven by anger and prejudice rather than reason. You and Trump aren't the "strong men" you think. You are the weak ones, too emotionally and intellectually fragile to act rationally.

 

[colfax_m]

Democrats are continually confused. They often think that an attack on their party is an attack on the USA.

The rioters were going after the democratic process. It wasn't an attack on the party, it was attack on the very foundation that makes us who we are.

 

[progressive hunter]

Democrats are continually confused. They often think that an attack on their party is an attack on the USA.

The rioters were going after the democratic process. It wasn't an attack on the party, it was attack on the very foundation that makes us who we are.

it takes a lot of stupid to believe that,,

 

[Crepitus]

Apparently a few dozen unarmed trespassers really has the Leftards shaken up. Uncle Joe especially. A drunk unarmed guy in a Viking hat almost took control of our government.
Aside from the fact that we are not a democracy but a representative constitutional republic - or at least we were - and that the "attack" was carried out by agents provocateurs of the Democrats in the form of BLM/Antifa confederates dressed as MAGA rally goers and police who with malice aforethought were either were kept away from the Capitol building or allowed the aforementioned BlaM-tifarians to enter the building and in one case assassinated an unarmed rally goer Ashli Babbitt, the absolute ludicrousness of the statement would be laughable were it not for the fact that a large percentage of our population think 9/11 is a convenience store, Pearl Harbor is a grunge band from Seattle and have no idea what the Civil War is.

Fact Check: Biden Calls Capitol Riot 'Worst Attack on Our Democracy Since the Civil War'

Biden is wrong. Not only wasn't the January 6 riot the worst attack on our democracy; it wasn't even the worst attack on the Capitol.

www.breitbart.com

They were not "rally goers"
they were not "protestors"
they were not "drunken partiers"
the were not "rowdy college kids"

They were violent insurgents bent on overthrowing our government in favor of their fascist dictator tRump.

Stop trying to minimize this.

By what mechanism with the numbers and tools they had on them would the government been overthrown?

Stop trying to exploit this.

The crazy thing is left wing/commie rioters have actually taken over areas of cities and prevented lawful governments from enforcing laws and regulations for weeks or even months, yet that somehow doesn't count, right?

The commies tried to burn down a federal courthouse, and these NAZIs are crying about a few protesters taking a tour of the capitol?

I'll admit some of them went way too far, and should be charged. anyone who laid a hand on a cop should be charged. anyone who forced their way past a barrier should be charged.

But with things like assault or accessing an area without permission.

Actual crimes, not political crimes.

It was a politically motivated insurgency. sorry for your luck.

One day of a protest that got out of hand that resulted in only 1 death, that of an unarmed protester.

It was an insurrection, not a protest.

At worst is was a riot, an more probably worst it was trespassing.

Nope, sorry for your luck.

 

[Crepitus]

They had no guns, moron. That's what "unarmed" means. It doesn't mean a few of them had hollow aluminum flag poles that wouldn't even make a bump on your head.

See that, fucking moron? It is once again you who's proving you're a fucking moron, no one else needs to.

Fucking moron, "armed" does not mean "guns." It means any weapon which can include guns but doesn't need to.

armed​

​

furnished with weapons​

In our society when you call someone armed, it is assumed it's with a firearm.

usually when it's a melee weapon it's referred to as wielding.

Words have meaning, even if you don't know what that is. "Armed" means being in possession of a weapon. That mob was armed.

Words have meanings that are also interpreted by most people, and most people think "gun" when you call a person armed.

Your ignorance of the meaning doesn't change it.

Sorry for your luck.

Your attempt to imply an actual armed insurrection (meaning with firearms) when it clearly was a protest that got out of control (not even a riot, at most a mass trespass) doesn't mean that reality folds to make it an actual insurrection.

Well that's bullshit. Only in your head does armed = only guns.

Was the teenager with a knife that was just shot unarmed?

If someone attacks you with a baseball bat are you gonna tell the police he was unarmed?

It's amazing the unbelievable bullshit you kids will spew to defend criminals.

Armed with a knife. Armed with a bat. You guys just used armed to make it sound like they had firearms.

At best they were "Armed" with improvised weapons, and we all know that results in a -4 penalty to your attack rolls.

Your ridiculous attempts to twist words don't change reality.

 

[Crepitus]

Claiming something is a Constitutional Republic isn't mutually exclusive from being a Democracy....you do understand that right??

They can't stomach the word democracy for the same obvious reason that they love the word republic.

A pure democracy would be one of the worst forms of government ever. 50.00001% of the people deciding to kill you would result in you ending up dead.

You sound frightened. Have you really pissed off that many people?

If that concept doesn't frighten you, you are an idiot.

If the concept of democracy is frightening to you, you might consider leaving the country.

I'll help you pack.

The concept of a pure democracy with zero constitutional protections should scare anyone.

The mob is fickle.

Who said anything about no constitutional protections?

 

[Crick]

More than 140 people were injured in the storming. Five people died either shortly before, during, or after the event.

It's amazing and almost humorous that these wingnuts think that they're going to gaslight the world into believing that the Jan. 6 attempt to overthrow democracy was just a harmless group of people that did nothing more than trespass.

It's not going to work. We know what we saw:

An extremely violent mob of several thousand people attempting to stop the certification of the freely and legally elected President in order to force the continuation of Trump's Presidency. It was an insurrection against Democracy and against America.

The fact that they did not have any firearms does not change the lethal nature of their attack. We CAN assume that if they had succeeded in getting to Congress they would have murdered at several Congresspeople and the vice-President. There is no reason to assume otherwise.

All those who participated deserve a minimum of 5 years in prison, and the worst of them should get at least 25 years.

Again, what mechanism that they could have applied with the tools and numbers on hand could have led to an overthrow of the government?

Do you argue that they could not physically have killed Pence, Pelosi, Schumer, Ocasio-Cortez or any of the other elected officials for whom they were hunting?

They could have started killing the cops they were getting past and they didn't. They didn't kill the media people recording them.

And your question is goalpost moving. Even detaining congress wouldn't have overthrown the government.

The only person who died in the capitol was an unarmed woman, and you guys jerk off to images of that.

You think the injuries suffered by the Capitol Police weren't worth mentioning? What the fuck is wrong with you people?

I said died, you brought up injuries.

Where were you when these injuries happened?

Federal officers in Portland suffered 113 eye injuries from lasers, DHS official says

Are you actually disputing the injury numbers? Almost ALL of them were captured on video.

More than 140 people were injured in the storming. Five people died either shortly before, during, or after the event.[26]


Shortly after 2:00 p.m., several rioters attempted to breach a door on the West Front of the Capitol. They dragged three D.C. Metro police officers out of formation and down a set of stairs, trapped them in a crowd, and assaulted them with improvised weapons (including hockey sticks, crutches, flags, poles, sticks, and stolen police shields) as the mob chanted "police stand down!" and "USA!"[445] At least one of the officers was also stomped.[446]

According to the chairman of the Capitol Police officers' union, multiple officers sustained traumatic brain injuries. One had two cracked ribs and two smashed spinal discs; another lost an eye.[447] One was stabbed with a metal fence stake, and another lost three fingers.[448] One was crushed between a door and a riot shield while defending the west side of the Capitol with other officers against rioters; he later had headaches he believed stemmed from a concussion.[449]

Morale among the Capitol Police plummeted after the riots. The department responded to several incidents where its officers threatened to harm themselves; one officer turned in her weapon because she feared what she would do with it.[450] Two police officers who responded to the attack died by suicide in the following days:[451] one Capitol Police officer, Officer Howard Liebengood, three days after the attack,[452][453] and a D.C. Metro Police officer, Officer Jeffrey Smith, who had been injured in the attack, afterward.[451][454] Some members of Congress and press reports have included these deaths in the casualty count, for a total of seven deaths.[455][456][457][458][459]

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26) Evelyn, Kenya (January 9, 2021). "Capitol attack: the five people who died". The Guardian.

445) Evan Hill, Arielle Ray and Dahlia Kozlowsky (January 11, 2021). "'They Got a Officer!': How a Mob Dragged and Beat Police at the Capitol". New York Times. Archived from the original on January 13, 2021. Retrieved January 24, 2021.
446) Bruce Leshan (January 11, 2021). "New video shows rioters dragging a DC police officer and beating him with an American flag". WUSA. Archived from the original on January 12, 2021. Retrieved January 24, 2021.
447) Broadwater, Luke (January 27, 2021). "The Capitol Police union says nearly 140 officers were injured during the riot". The New York Times.
448) Schmidt, Michael S.; Broadwater, Luke (February 12, 2021). "Officers' Injuries, Including Concussions, Show Scope of Violence at Capitol Riot". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved February 12, 2021.
449) "DC police seek man suspected of crushing officer in doorway". WGN-TV. January 16, 2021. Retrieved February 11,2021.
450) kaplan, Michael (January 11, 2021). "Morale deteriorates among Capitol police after assault on Capitol". CBS News. Retrieved January 11, 2021.
451) Peter Hermann, Two officers who helped fight the Capitol mob died of suicide. Many more are hurting., Washington Post(February 11, 2021).
452) "A Capitol Police Officer On Duty During The Coup Attempt Has Died By Suicide". Buzzfeed. January 11, 2021. A US Capitol Police officer on duty during Wednesday's coup attempt by Trump supporters died by suicide on Saturday, his family has announced.
453) Klein, Allison; Tan, Rebecca (January 11, 2021). "Capitol Police officer who was on duty during the riot has died by suicide, his family says". The Washington Post. Retrieved January 13,2021.
454) Emma, Caitlin; Ferris, Sarah (January 27, 2021). "Second police officer died by suicide following Capitol attack". Politico. Retrieved January 28, 2021.
455) Rowland, Geoffrey (February 9, 2021). "Managers present dramatic new video of Capitol mob at Trump impeachment trial". TheHill. Retrieved February 16, 2021.
456) "Senators and impeachment managers: The trial is over but the work isn't done". news.yahoo.com. Retrieved February 16,2021.
457) Telegraph, CHARLES BOOTHE Bluefield Daily. "Senators from both Virginias explain votes in impeachment trial". Bluefield Daily Telegraph. Retrieved February 16, 2021.
458) "Response from Fla. Republican and Democratic leaders to Senate's acquittal of former President Trump". WFTS. February 14, 2021. Retrieved February 16, 2021.
459) "Menendez Statement Following Vote to Convict Former President Donald Trump for Inciting Riot on Nation's Capitol to Stop Certification of Election Results | U.S. Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey". www.menendez.senate.gov. Retrieved February 16, 2021.

January 6 United States Capitol attack - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Crepitus]

It's amazing and almost humorous that these wingnuts think that they're going to gaslight the world into believing that the Jan. 6 attempt to overthrow democracy was just a harmless group of people that did nothing more than trespass.

It's not going to work. We know what we saw:

An extremely violent mob of several thousand people attempting to stop the certification of the freely and legally elected President in order to force the continuation of Trump's Presidency. It was an insurrection against Democracy and against America.

The fact that they did not have any firearms does not change the lethal nature of their attack. We CAN assume that if they had succeeded in getting to Congress they would have murdered at several Congresspeople and the vice-President. There is no reason to assume otherwise.

All those who participated deserve a minimum of 5 years in prison, and the worst of them should get at least 25 years.

Again, what mechanism that they could have applied with the tools and numbers on hand could have led to an overthrow of the government?

Didn't you folks claim this country would be ruled by Sharia law by now??

Even tho you couldn't tell us the "tools and mechanisms" they could have applied to do that

No, your side is trying to rule it via your religion, "wokism" , which is far worse.

And you didn't answer my question.

That's because you ask stupid leading questions in an attempt to deflect the topic.

It's because you won't answer the question because you know your answer would either make you look like a hypocrite or an idiot.

Well that's bullshit.

Reality, bitch.

Lol, no.

 

[Crepitus]

They had no guns, moron. That's what "unarmed" means. It doesn't mean a few of them had hollow aluminum flag poles that wouldn't even make a bump on your head.

See that, fucking moron? It is once again you who's proving you're a fucking moron, no one else needs to.

Fucking moron, "armed" does not mean "guns." It means any weapon which can include guns but doesn't need to.

armed​

​

furnished with weapons​

In our society when you call someone armed, it is assumed it's with a firearm.

usually when it's a melee weapon it's referred to as wielding.

Words have meaning, even if you don't know what that is. "Armed" means being in possession of a weapon. That mob was armed.

Words have meanings that are also interpreted by most people, and most people think "gun" when you call a person armed.

Your ignorance of the meaning doesn't change it.

Sorry for your luck.

Your attempt to imply an actual armed insurrection (meaning with firearms) when it clearly was a protest that got out of control (not even a riot, at most a mass trespass) doesn't mean that reality folds to make it an actual insurrection.

Well that's bullshit. Only in your head does armed = only guns.

Was the teenager with a knife that was just shot unarmed?

If someone attacks you with a baseball bat are you gonna tell the police he was unarmed?

It's amazing the unbelievable bullshit you kids will spew to defend criminals.

Armed with a knife. Armed with a bat. You guys just used armed to make it sound like they had firearms.

At best they were "Armed" with improvised weapons, and we all know that results in a -4 penalty to your attack rolls.

They were armed with hollow Aluminum flag poles and/or pepper spray.

What's that you say? They were armed?!?! I had no idea!

 

[Crepitus]

Apparently a few dozen unarmed trespassers really has the Leftards shaken up. Uncle Joe especially. A drunk unarmed guy in a Viking hat almost took control of our government.
Aside from the fact that we are not a democracy but a representative constitutional republic - or at least we were - and that the "attack" was carried out by agents provocateurs of the Democrats in the form of BLM/Antifa confederates dressed as MAGA rally goers and police who with malice aforethought were either were kept away from the Capitol building or allowed the aforementioned BlaM-tifarians to enter the building and in one case assassinated an unarmed rally goer Ashli Babbitt, the absolute ludicrousness of the statement would be laughable were it not for the fact that a large percentage of our population think 9/11 is a convenience store, Pearl Harbor is a grunge band from Seattle and have no idea what the Civil War is.

Fact Check: Biden Calls Capitol Riot 'Worst Attack on Our Democracy Since the Civil War'

Biden is wrong. Not only wasn't the January 6 riot the worst attack on our democracy; it wasn't even the worst attack on the Capitol.

www.breitbart.com

They were not "rally goers"
they were not "protestors"
they were not "drunken partiers"
the were not "rowdy college kids"

They were violent insurgents bent on overthrowing our government in favor of their fascist dictator tRump.

Stop trying to minimize this.

If they were bent on overthrowing the government, they would have brought weapons. Either you're incredibly stupid ( which I don't think you are) or you're simply a partisan hack hell bent on creating strife and division in order to further the agenda of your chosen party. Only a true moron really thinks that crowds over running the Capital building was a targeted attempt to overthrow the government.

Their timing was off.

Feds say police found a pickup truck full of bombs and guns near Capitol insurrection as wide-ranging investigation unfurls

An Alabama man allegedly parked a pickup truck packed with 11 homemade bombs, an assault rifle and a handgun two blocks from the US Capitol building on Wednesday for hours before authorities ever noticed, according to federal prosecutors.

www.cnn.com