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323 murders involving rifles, 2011.No, it was around 300. I think the exact number was 323. Feel free to check the FBI statistics on it.I'd bet it was close to zero, and I'd bet none of them were assault rifles legaly owned by civilians.
FBI ? Expanded Homicide Data Table 8
My wagers stand.
How long does it take to change a magazine in a rifle?
Longer than it takes to shoot 20 rounds.
The Second Amendment isn't about hunting...that is where the OP jumps the tracks.
It's also not about civilians having military weapons. Assault rifles with large capacity magazines are the equivalent of machine guns.
We always hear that assault weapons are no different functionally from semi-automatic hunting rifles. But there is a difference and that is the large capacity magazine. These magazines are not made to fit hunting rifles,they are for assault rifles.
Assault rifles fitted with large capacity magazines are the functional equivalent of machine guns which the Supreme Court has already ruled may be banned for ownership by civilians.
Finally, there is the mentality that is engendered by the use of such weapons. While the hunter imagines himself bringing down a nice duck or pheasant when sighting down the barrel of his hunting rifle, what is it that the owner of an assault weapon sees in his minds eye?
Bring back the assault weapons ban, it's Constitutional and common sense.
At the time that the Supreme Court ruled that it was Constitutional to ban civilians from machine guns the yield of machine guns was about 100 rounds per minute, about the same as a modern semi-automatic weapon WITH a 100 round magazine.It's also not about civilians having military weapons. Assault rifles with large capacity magazines are the equivalent of machine guns.
You are aware that at the time of the founding of this country and the writing of the Constitution, every weapon was a military weapon and every weapon was used to assault the British, aren't you?
And as far as a large magazine being the same as a machine gun.... What the hell are you smoking. You need to put it down and stop using it before it warps the last two working brain cells you have.
All right, now try to pay attention. You are right but with a 100round clip you can squeeze off 100rounds a minute. That's about the same yield as a machine gun when the Supreme Court ruled that is was Constitutional to ban machin guns from civilian ownership. A modern assault weapon with large capacity magazines are the functional equivalent of a machine gun.Yes, it is. A militia is a type of military unit.
And a semi automatic rifle is nothing like a machine gun.
I've qualified with both, have you shot either, because you sound like a total Dumbass when you spread that kind of manure.
An semi automatic rifle functions EXACTLY like a semi automatic pistol...there is no difference whatsoever.
I have a 9 shot .22 revolver that fires at exactly the same rate and speed as my AR...one round per trigger pull.
Honestly, I don't think you could...I've never seen a C-mag function properly...that is why the military abandon them.
Ban them...I'm not opposed.
I'd compromise with you.
20 round magazines...that's three more than the largest standard pistol magazine.
Just to enlighten you..
The Original Thompson Submachine gun in 1934 could fire at the rate 1,500 bullets per minute. That was later throttled back to 879 rounds per minute to allow for some accuracy.
I do not know of a single person who can physically squeeze the trigger of any semi-automatic 879 time let alone 1,500 times in 60 seconds.
How many rounds would that machine gun fire with a ten round clip? That's the point assault weapons can be fitted with large capacity magazines making them the functional equivalent of machine guns.
No. The distinguishing characteristic is the capcity to fire full-auto.What is bullshit is your refusal to admit that one of the features and really the most important feature that distinguishes a machine gun from one that is not is its large capacity magazine.
Like all useful idiots, your masters' agenda is more important to you than knowledge and honesty.
A machine gun with only one round in it wouldn't be much of a machine would it? A hundred round magazine in a semi auto could be emptied in a minute, it's the uninterrupted fire that makes them similar.
We always hear that assault weapons are no different functionally from semi-automatic hunting rifles. But there is a difference and that is the large capacity magazine. These magazines are not made to fit hunting rifles,they are for assault rifles.
Assault rifles fitted with large capacity magazines are the functional equivalent of machine guns which the Supreme Court has already ruled may be banned for ownership by civilians.
Finally, there is the mentality that is engendered by the use of such weapons. While the hunter imagines himself bringing down a nice duck or pheasant when sighting down the barrel of his hunting rifle, what is it that the owner of an assault weapon sees in his minds eye?
Bring back the assault weapons ban, it's Constitutional and common sense.
if you look at the AWB that sunsetted a while back, you will see that it wasn't the clips, necessarily, that defined assault weapon. a lot of the designations were incredibly stupid... for example, you could buy a particular gun with one grip, but not with another.
i have no issue with getting rid of clips that hold more than 10 rounds. i absolutely think they need to close the gun show loophole and have universal background checks regardless of the means of purchase.
but i don't believe in pointless legislation just so legislators can say to their constituents that they "did something".
1. What gun show loophole? Could you give an example how this is used and a location where it has happened?i have no issue with getting rid of clips that hold more than 10 rounds. i absolutely think they need to close the gun show loophole and have universal background checks regardless of the means of purchase.
And we should care, because...?
Stallone supported the 1994 “Brady bill” that included a now-expired ban on assault weapons, and hopes that ban can be reinstated.
No, less than 1%, as not all of the 323 deaths from rifles were from assault rifles..............I'm trying to help the pro assault rifle crowd. Out of 32,000 deaths by firearms, only 1% of those were from assault rifles.323 murders involving rifles, 2011.No, it was around 300. I think the exact number was 323. Feel free to check the FBI statistics on it.
FBI ? Expanded Homicide Data Table 8
My wagers stand.
1%
That's because gun control has nothing to do with public safety.If the left wing truly cares about reducing gun violence and gun related deaths, they're not even close to addressing the real problems.
:roll:We should just ban bullets, nothing in the constitution guarantees the right to carry bullets.
Because no one has ever shot an animal and then ate it.You planning on eating the bullets? Because otherwise the gun isn't of much use.
We always hear that assault weapons are no different functionally from semi-automatic hunting rifles. But there is a difference and that is the large capacity magazine. These magazines are not made to fit hunting rifles,they are for assault rifles.
Assault rifles fitted with large capacity magazines are the functional equivalent of machine guns which the Supreme Court has already ruled may be banned for ownership by civilians.
Finally, there is the mentality that is engendered by the use of such weapons. While the hunter imagines himself bringing down a nice duck or pheasant when sighting down the barrel of his hunting rifle, what is it that the owner of an assault weapon sees in his minds eye?
Bring back the assault weapons ban, it's Constitutional and common sense.
Nope. Nothing in "free speech" necessitates the use of words, and so banning words does not violate the constitution because you can use other forms of communication to express your ideas.A ban on words would make the constitution illegal:roll:We should just ban bullets, nothing in the constitution guarantees the right to carry bullets.
Nothing in the constitution guarantees the right to use words, and so a ban on words will not violate the constitution.
Irony so thick you need a continental engineer to cut it.Next time, try to think things through.
Not even 1/3 are homicides of consequence, because that 1/3 includes druggie and gang gun violence. I don't cry for them a single tear.323 murders involving rifles, 2011.No, it was around 300. I think the exact number was 323. Feel free to check the FBI statistics on it.
FBI ? Expanded Homicide Data Table 8
My wagers stand.
.............I'm trying to help the pro assault rifle crowd. Out of 32,000 deaths by firearms, only 1% of those were from assault rifles.
1%
But let's look into the numbers even more. According to fbi.gov, of the 32,000 gun deaths in 2011 only 8,500 were listed as homicide. Where does that leave the other 23,500? Suicide and accidents. Of all gun related deaths, only 1/3 are even homicide.
If the left wing truly cares about reducing gun violence and gun related deaths, they're not even close to addressing the real problems.
The M-1A1 carbine with full automatic selector could fire at the rate of 750 rounds per minute. Only full automatic weapons can be classified as a machine gun and not all fully automatic firearms are machine guns.How many rounds would that machine gun fire with a ten round clip? That's the point assault weapons can be fitted with large capacity magazines making them the functional equivalent of machine guns.The BAR was good for 300+ rounds per minute. It fired from a 20-round magazine. You fail.