Assholes making trouble in Oregon

[ogibillm]

are they? nice of you to speak on their behalf. where do you get that information?

From the residents.

so you live there?

I live on the coast now. My close family lives in Eastern Oregon. My high school played against Burns. I spent years in Grant county, have close family there still, and have friends in Harney county. I spent five years in Wheeler county, which I think has a smaller population than Harney.

so no, you don't live there. at best you have some lunatic family members (it does run in families) spouting off the same lunatic stuff you do and you're trying to say that represents 'the residents'

tell me, does your entire family believe that the shootings in newtown and san bernadino were staged or is it just you? do they hate america as much as you or are you the outlier?

Lol ok...

shoe fits, doesn't it

 

[ogibillm]

are they? nice of you to speak on their behalf. where do you get that information?

From the residents.

so you live there?

I live on the coast now. My close family lives in Eastern Oregon. My high school played against Burns. I spent years in Grant county, have close family there still, and have friends in Harney county. I spent five years in Wheeler county, which I think has a smaller population than Harney.

so no, you don't live there. at best you have some lunatic family members (it does run in families) spouting off the same lunatic stuff you do and you're trying to say that represents 'the residents'

tell me, does your entire family believe that the shootings in newtown and san bernadino were staged or is it just you? do they hate america as much as you or are you the outlier?

Good post. She is an ODS Queen. That much is certain. Thinking those events were staged is offensive, not to mention- rw tinfoil stuff

to be fair to the america hater, i don't know that she believes that personally. i assume she does because she used KrisAnne Hall as a source and she most definitely does.

 

[Dot Com]

Worth mentioning again that the terrorists are from out of town.

 

[bodecea]

Two ranchers accidently burn some brush and the Liberals call it terrorism. A few hundred Black Lives Matter protesters intentionally burn a couple city blocks and they call it justice.

How fucked up is that?

You are playing down what they were convicted of. This is lightly populated county and the ranchers were convicted by a jury made up of the local folks. The government alone did not convict them. Their neighbors convicted them. Add the fact that they have accepted the ruling of the court and disavowed any relationship to the people who have taken over the wildlife refuge and a more accurate assessment can be made. The domestic terrorists are not speaking for the ranchers or the people who live in that area.

Do you think someones neighbours should be on their jury?

A jury of your peers, silly ass.

A jury of ones peers is fine, neighbours, which is what was posted, is not fine, silly ass.

Their jury was from Pendleton, two hours away. The judge at the time addressed the minimum sentencing issue based on the fact that it was wildly out of proportion to the "crime".

Meanwhile, the crazy progressive bitch who lit a hundred thousand acres because she and her buddies were bored got 13 months.

Was she a repeat offender?

 

[Dot Com]

People have to realize that if they're out there, its public lands. If you don't know the rules going-in, thats not Uncle Sams fault.

 

[Faun]

Militiamen, ranchers in showdown for soul of Burns

Payne and Bundy say it's up to local residents what happens next. If the locals decide to declare the county a sanctuary for the Hammonds, the militia is ready.

"We're sending the message: We will protect you," Payne said.

Such talk rattles the community, as has conduct locals blame on the strangers.

Tensions persist.

A Utah man tied to Bundy and Payne disrupted a state court session, insisting the judge empanel a special grand jury to investigate the Hammond matter. Federal employees report they have been followed around town and to their homes. Payne said no one in his group has followed federal employees. But he acknowledged knocking on the front door of a home featuring a handmade "Go Home Bundys" sign. Payne said he wanted to understand the homeowner's concerns.

Signs on street poles pronounce, "Militia go home!"

Others reply: "You are the militia."

One episode in particular has upset the community.

The sheriff said three militiamen and one woman, one with a gun strapped to his hip, engaged his 74-year-old mother and 78-year-old father at a yard sale being held at the American Legion. When the men criticized the sheriff, his mother bristled, and said she didn't need their protection from the government.

Later, the men showed up at the sheriff's office to complain about the exchange involving his mother.

She had, they said, threatened them.

I wish I was living down there at present. That area does not need these assholes threatening people. Time for the people of Harney county to give the heave-ho to these trouble makers. They have already shown their courage and bravery by threatening old people.

If they really go overboard and actually do violence against any of the locals, they will find the people of Harney county a lot tougher than those little couch potatoes ever thought of being. They have also been threatening the Sheriff, and he has even been receiving death threats. Time those little turds get an asskicking, and that area is known for giving that kind of treatment to outsiders that come in to create trouble.

They should just shoot them already and end this.

 

[Brain357]

Worth mentioning again that the terrorists are from out of town.

It's funny these guys thought they were going to start a revolution and instead are mostly ignored. Even most the right wingers seem to know these guys are just turds.

 

[Dot Com]

They are going about it the wrong way. You don't git 'r done in MURICA w/ lynch mobs. You go through the regular process of suing

 

[charwin95]

Worth mentioning again that the terrorists are from out of town.

It's funny these guys thought they were going to start a revolution and instead are mostly ignored. Even most the right wingers seem to know these guys are just turds.

Other militia groups don't even support these terrorists.

http://www.newsweek.com/oregon-standoff-ammon-bundy-militias-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-412072

 

[Old Rocks]

I have a reply or two to address in this slug fest, but I thought I would post this quote from a jeep club forum site in Arizona I belong to where this subject has come up. This guy makes an excellent summation:

The thing is, at least as I see it, we all have a dog in this fight. The Constitution does not allow the federal government to own lands other than for military bases. I could be wrong there but I'm pretty sure that's what it says. And also, parcels not larger than 10 acres. The fact that they starved the other ranchers out by flooding their lands and then purchased their land is criminal, as far as I'm concerned. AND, as soon as the NWR was determined to be a failure, it should have been reversed. But you are right, the government will fight tooth and nail, blade and bullet to keep any program/project that allows them to spend money and justify raising taxes. People talk about how big and powerful the gun lobby is, or the Utility lobby, but those pale in comparison to the green, environmental lobby. Especially with 75% of the people in the this country living in a city and believing everything they see on social and mainstream media.

Americans these days seem to be okay with laws and regulations telling others how they have to live as long as it doesn't effect them. They (.gov) are systematically taking us apart.

I grew up in a small town surrounded by BLM, Air Force, Reservation, wildlife refuge, and a national monument. The monument was closed to the public because the drug runners are using it and it easier to keep us out than them, the wildlife moonbats decided the rancher's cattle was interfering with the prong horn antelope south of town (outside the refuge) so the BLM revoked the grazing permits. Only thing is, the pronghorn were enjoying the same water the cattle were so they died off in that area after the cattlemen left. It's illegal for the border patrol, or anyone else, to pursue drug runners into the refuge so it's now a pipeline for drugs and polluted heavily. And, once the areas were closed to OHV, by the BLM, the fawns they thought they were protecting were killed by predators that used to be scared off by jeeps, quads, etc.

It's tyranny. It's stupid and we are paying for it. In five years they will start the second round of trail closures, fueled by the fact the first round was not enforced well enough and the damage to natural resources has continued, and then the OHV crowd will be looking for help from the ranchers and they won't be there. The mountain bike guys might pitch in since they are now being categorized as 'mechanical' recreation and subject to a lot of the restriction us 'motorized' folks are. But I wouldn't count on many of them realizing they need us to keep their trails open.

The Ranchers in the west valley were a huge help in preventing the 1.5 million acres of new wilderness. There's no better stewards for the lands, the Ranchers understand it better than any college graduate biologist.

And here's a real thought for all of you.

If this 'armed takeover', "y'allkinda" thing hadn't happened, none of us would ever have known about it.

And some of us would never have known about it either.

A summation for the right to destroy the special places important to the rest of us? Sorry, buddy boy, you are a very small minority, and do not get to decide for the rest of us.

 

[Old Rocks]

These wannabe warriors must be a little disappointed about not having a dramatic standoff with law enforcement. Reporters on the scene can't seem to find a cop anywhere; federal, state or local. So it looks like the only people there are the media and a few rednecks with guns hanging around drinking beer. Not much of a revolution if no one takes the threat of action seriously. In this case simply ignoring the revolutionaries will probably discourage them from storming the Bastille any time soon.

Time to replace that old dinosaur. He supported the government shutdown, tried to extend it, and hurt the people in that area. You see, most of the jobs in that area depend on repairing infrastructure maintained by the government. Pull the tax money from the urban areas out of Eastern Oregon, and half the small towns simply disappear.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Wah, wah............. Really? If you are that hard working, why are you that poor? Perhaps there are other jobs than flipping burgers?

Where is Janet Reno? Are there any kids for her to kill among the militia?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

If these were Oregon pot growers doing this - every single person here who is saying something negative - would be rooting for the pot growers.
PERIOD.

 

[Old Rocks]

Wah, wah............. Really? If you are that hard working, why are you that poor? Perhaps there are other jobs than flipping burgers?

Where is Janet Reno? Are there any kids for her to kill among the militia?

Stupid ass. This is not about Waco, this is about a bunch of outsiders that are not wanted and are causing trouble.they think they can come in with their arsenal, and bully the whole community, and the US Government, as well. They need to spend major time in the iron bar hotel.

 

[Old Rocks]

If these were Oregon pot growers doing this - every single person here who is saying something negative - would be rooting for the pot growers.
PERIOD.

If these were pot growers taking over a federal installation with guns, they would already be dead. Same rules should apply for these assholes.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

If these were Oregon pot growers doing this - every single person here who is saying something negative - would be rooting for the pot growers.
PERIOD.

If these were pot growers taking over a federal installation with guns, they would already be dead. Same rules should apply for these assholes.

Not in Oregon they wouldn't.

 

[Uncensored2008]

They should just shoot them already and end this.

What about their families? Should Obama's army kick in the doors of the homes of these infidels and kill their families as warning to others who might think to defy the living god who is our ruler?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Stupid ass. This is not about Waco, this is about a bunch of outsiders that are not wanted and are causing trouble.

Infidels who fail to bow to the living god you worship.

So can you get Reno out their to kill them and their families?

they think they can come in with their arsenal, and bully the whole community, and the US Government, as well. They need to spend major time in the iron bar hotel.

I thought you wanted to slaughter them all? These are white people. Isn't it the policy of the democratic - socialist party that whites should be killed on sight? Remember, white lives don't matter.

 

[Old Rocks]

They should just shoot them already and end this.

What about their families? Should Obama's army kick in the doors of the homes of these infidels and kill their families as warning to others who might think to defy the living god who is our ruler?

No, that is Trump's way. As he stated.

 

[koshergrl]

Stupid ass. This is not about Waco, this is about a bunch of outsiders that are not wanted and are causing trouble.

Infidels who fail to bow to the living god you worship.

So can you get Reno out their to kill them and their families?

they think they can come in with their arsenal, and bully the whole community, and the US Government, as well. They need to spend major time in the iron bar hotel.

I thought you wanted to slaughter them all? These are white people. Isn't it the policy of the democratic - socialist party that whites should be killed on sight? Remember, white lives don't matter.

And he's lying. The locals don't mind them there. The locals are thrilled that FINALLY their situation is getting some attention.