Assholes making trouble in Oregon

[Uncensored2008]

LOL. The Hammond's are prisoners of a poorly written law mandating minimum sentences. Since the law was passed because of some fruitloop eco-terrorists, you almost certainly supported it. It is unjust in this case, and should not have been applied. But it's application was perfectly legal in all aspects. All too often perfectly legal has nothing to do with justice.

Now idiots like you are trying to make it into a case against the President and government. The law pre-dates 2008, and its unjust enforcement is a matter for the courts. The Bundy's are taking the focus away from that, and actually hurting the Hammod's, not that they give a damn.

Comrade;

What sentence did the presiding judge in the Hammond's trial hand down?

Did the Hammond's serve that sentence? Yes, or no?

 

[Borillar]

So when the Black Lives or Occupy gang seize public property for their little protest are they then considered domestic terrorists for occupying public property? Or is it your insatiable thirst for that kool-aid?

When the Occupy or BLM movements start showing up armed to the teeth in order to intimidate, I'll put them right up there too.

 

[Brain357]

LOL. The Hammond's are prisoners of a poorly written law mandating minimum sentences. Since the law was passed because of some fruitloop eco-terrorists, you almost certainly supported it. It is unjust in this case, and should not have been applied. But it's application was perfectly legal in all aspects. All too often perfectly legal has nothing to do with justice.

Now idiots like you are trying to make it into a case against the President and government. The law pre-dates 2008, and its unjust enforcement is a matter for the courts. The Bundy's are taking the focus away from that, and actually hurting the Hammod's, not that they give a damn.

Comrade;

What sentence did the presiding judge in the Hammond's trial hand down?

Did the Hammond's serve that sentence? Yes, or no?

Are they convicted criminals yes or no?

Should gangs start doing similar things to get gang bangers lighter sentences?

 

[koshergrl]

LOL. The Hammond's are prisoners of a poorly written law mandating minimum sentences. Since the law was passed because of some fruitloop eco-terrorists, you almost certainly supported it. It is unjust in this case, and should not have been applied. But it's application was perfectly legal in all aspects. All too often perfectly legal has nothing to do with justice.

Now idiots like you are trying to make it into a case against the President and government. The law pre-dates 2008, and its unjust enforcement is a matter for the courts. The Bundy's are taking the focus away from that, and actually hurting the Hammod's, not that they give a damn.

Comrade;

What sentence did the presiding judge in the Hammond's trial hand down?

Did the Hammond's serve that sentence? Yes, or no?

Are they convicted criminals yes or no?

Should gangs start doing similar things to get gang bangers lighter sentences?

Wtf? How does that even follow, you nut?

 

[Brain357]

LOL. The Hammond's are prisoners of a poorly written law mandating minimum sentences. Since the law was passed because of some fruitloop eco-terrorists, you almost certainly supported it. It is unjust in this case, and should not have been applied. But it's application was perfectly legal in all aspects. All too often perfectly legal has nothing to do with justice.

Now idiots like you are trying to make it into a case against the President and government. The law pre-dates 2008, and its unjust enforcement is a matter for the courts. The Bundy's are taking the focus away from that, and actually hurting the Hammod's, not that they give a damn.

Comrade;

What sentence did the presiding judge in the Hammond's trial hand down?

Did the Hammond's serve that sentence? Yes, or no?

Are they convicted criminals yes or no?

Should gangs start doing similar things to get gang bangers lighter sentences?

Wtf? How does that even follow, you nut?

They are using guns to try to get these criminals a shorter sentence. Would you support gangs doing the same thing?

 

[koshergrl]

LOL. The Hammond's are prisoners of a poorly written law mandating minimum sentences. Since the law was passed because of some fruitloop eco-terrorists, you almost certainly supported it. It is unjust in this case, and should not have been applied. But it's application was perfectly legal in all aspects. All too often perfectly legal has nothing to do with justice.

Now idiots like you are trying to make it into a case against the President and government. The law pre-dates 2008, and its unjust enforcement is a matter for the courts. The Bundy's are taking the focus away from that, and actually hurting the Hammod's, not that they give a damn.

Comrade;

What sentence did the presiding judge in the Hammond's trial hand down?

Did the Hammond's serve that sentence? Yes, or no?

Are they convicted criminals yes or no?

Should gangs start doing similar things to get gang bangers lighter sentences?

Wtf? How does that even follow, you nut?

They are using guns to try to get these criminals a shorter sentence. Would you support gangs doing the same thing?

Nonsense. The Hammonds are already in jail, they reported themselves. The protesters occupied a public building that wasn't being used. They're moving in and out of the building, going to the store, hanging out with the locals. They haven't stolen anything, they haven't set fire to anything, they haven't hurt anybody. People are visiting them there. The only crime they're even thinking of charging them with is trespassing, and that's just a violation.

 

[Tilly]

If these were Oregon pot growers doing this - every single person here who is saying something negative - would be rooting for the pot growers.
PERIOD.

If these were pot growers taking over a federal installation with guns, they would already be dead. Same rules should apply for these assholes.

Not in Oregon they wouldn't.

My, my, another outsider trying tell me how the people in my state do things. You know, there is a reason that more people are moving to Oregon than to any other state.

Another 'outsider'. Lol. You're really not doing Oregon any favours with your constant small minded nonsense about AMERICANS. And yet you want to invite in an unvettable bunch of actual 'outsiders', some of whom are likely jihadi savages of Islam. You are a total joke.

 

[Tilly]

Kosher is flat out lying. The Sheriff, and the City Council have both stated that they don't want the militia there, and that most of the people there don't want them there.

What would you expect the sheriff and the city council to say? Lol.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That is incorrect. Do you have a LINK to support your claim? Even the Hanmond family reject these assholes.

Oregon ranchers reject Cliven Bundy family occupation

The Hammond's fear to say anything that could offend the regime. They were given three years in prison for speaking in opposition to the criminal regime and know that anything they say could mean prison time.

The only thing the Hammond's are going to say is "Yessah massah obama sirs, weez goan be gud and dooz wats yoo beez telling us massah."

 

[Uncensored2008]

You're obviously confused. The Hammonds were charged, tried and convicted.

Sentenced, completed their sentence and released.

Under the laws of the old republic, that is where it stops, unless a new crime with a new trial occurs.

Sure they are. Especially when the cases are still being appealed. See Pollard V. US. Pollard was released on parole. And the appeals court found that the lower court released him in error. So back to prison Pollard went.

In the Hammond case, the appeals court found that the lower court hadn't applied statutory mandatory minimums when they should have, and that the Hammonds were released in error. So, just like Pollard, back to prison the Hammonds went.

Remember, and I can't stress this point enough: you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

I understand that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and say what you think will help your party, rather than anything intelligent, but "parole" is an alternate form of serving a sentence. A Parolee is technically still incarcerated, you ignorant ditz. The Hammond's were not on parole, probation, or any other government oversight. They completed the legally mandated sentence of the presiding judge.

The federal government is engaging in terrorism and kidnapping, there is no legal justification for their acts.

 

[koshergrl]

That is incorrect. Do you have a LINK to support your claim? Even the Hanmond family reject these assholes.

Oregon ranchers reject Cliven Bundy family occupation

The Hammond's fear to say anything that could offend the regime. They were given three years in prison for speaking in opposition to the criminal regime and know that anything they say could mean prison time.

The only thing the Hammond's are going to say is "Yessah massah obama sirs, weez goan be gud and dooz wats yoo beez telling us massah."

Exactly. They still have family living there, and the BLM is unscrupulous and dangerous.

 

[Skylar]

So when the Black Lives or Occupy gang seize public property for their little protest are they then considered domestic terrorists for occupying public property? Or is it your insatiable thirst for that kool-aid?

When the Occupy or BLM movements start showing up armed to the teeth in order to intimidate, I'll put them right up there too.

I'm still chuckling at the absurdity of angry, armed white guys from out of state invading a county and enforcing their views with threats of force....

...because they want the local people to decide for themselves what to do.

 

[Skylar]

You're obviously confused. The Hammonds were charged, tried and convicted.

Sentenced, completed their sentence and released.

Under the laws of the old republic, that is where it stops, unless a new crime with a new trial occurs.

Sure they are. Especially when the cases are still being appealed. See Pollard V. US. Pollard was released on parole. And the appeals court found that the lower court released him in error. So back to prison Pollard went.

In the Hammond case, the appeals court found that the lower court hadn't applied statutory mandatory minimums when they should have, and that the Hammonds were released in error. So, just like Pollard, back to prison the Hammonds went.

Remember, and I can't stress this point enough: you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

I understand that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and say what you think will help your party, rather than anything intelligent, but "parole" is an alternate form of serving a sentence. A Parolee is technically still incarcerated, you ignorant ditz. The Hammond's were not on parole, probation, or any other government oversight. They completed the legally mandated sentence of the presiding judge.

And as Pollard demonstrates, if the sentencing court is found to be in error their sentencing by an appellant court, those convicted can be called back to serve their correct sentences.

Which is exactly what happened in Pollard. And exactly what happened in Hammond. As usual, you ignore the law and the supreme court....and just make up whatever hapless pseudo-legal batshit you wish.

Laughing.....how's that working out for you?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Are they convicted criminals yes or no?

Yes.

Should gangs start doing similar things to get gang bangers lighter sentences?

Are you suggesting that gang bangers who complete a prison sentence should be put back in prison without charge or trial?

You Communists are some scary fucks. You show exactly how the STASI came about.

 

[Brain357]

Are they convicted criminals yes or no?

Yes.

Should gangs start doing similar things to get gang bangers lighter sentences?

Are you suggesting that gang bangers who complete a prison sentence should be put back in prison without charge or trial?

You Communists are some scary fucks. You show exactly how the STASI came about.

Why are you supporting criminals? Just because they are rich and white?

 

[Uncensored2008]

And as Pollard demonstrates, if the sentencing court is in error by a higher court, those convicted can be called back to serve their correct sentences.

No, you're a stupid fuck with no idea what you are talking about. Pollard was released on parole, the parole was revoked.

You have no grasp of the concepts behind the words you use.

Which is exactly what happened in Pollard. And exactly what happened in Hammond. As usual, you ignore the law and the supreme court....and just make up whatever hapless pseudo-legal batshit you wish.

Laughing.....how's that working out for you?

So the Hammond's were on parole, retard?

 

[Brain357]

LOL. The Hammond's are prisoners of a poorly written law mandating minimum sentences. Since the law was passed because of some fruitloop eco-terrorists, you almost certainly supported it. It is unjust in this case, and should not have been applied. But it's application was perfectly legal in all aspects. All too often perfectly legal has nothing to do with justice.

Now idiots like you are trying to make it into a case against the President and government. The law pre-dates 2008, and its unjust enforcement is a matter for the courts. The Bundy's are taking the focus away from that, and actually hurting the Hammod's, not that they give a damn.

Comrade;

What sentence did the presiding judge in the Hammond's trial hand down?

Did the Hammond's serve that sentence? Yes, or no?

Are they convicted criminals yes or no?

Should gangs start doing similar things to get gang bangers lighter sentences?

Wtf? How does that even follow, you nut?

They are using guns to try to get these criminals a shorter sentence. Would you support gangs doing the same thing?

Nonsense. The Hammonds are already in jail, they reported themselves. The protesters occupied a public building that wasn't being used. They're moving in and out of the building, going to the store, hanging out with the locals. They haven't stolen anything, they haven't set fire to anything, they haven't hurt anybody. People are visiting them there. The only crime they're even thinking of charging them with is trespassing, and that's just a violation.

The FBI is wasting time on these turds that could be spent finding terrorists. Schools were shut down. Why they need guns? Other protests don't.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Why are you supporting criminals? Just because they are rich and white?

If someone is given a ticket for jay walking, pays the fine, and goes on with life; you support the feds throwing them in prison for 10 years with the claim that the fine was insufficient?

You Communists are some evil fucks.

In the free nation that you fight so hard to destroy, once the sentence was complete, the debt to society was paid.

Now you scum view people as property of the state, to be disposed of as the rulers of the state see fit, so the concept of rights is one you simply cannot grasp.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The FBI is wasting time on these turds that could be spent finding terrorists. Schools were shut down. Why they need guns? Other protests don't.

Do you think Lord Obama should order a drone strike on them?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Exactly. They still have family living there, and the BLM is unscrupulous and dangerous.

The entire Obama regime is. All checks and balances have been discarded.