Assholes making trouble in Oregon

[Old Rocks]

If these were Oregon pot growers doing this - every single person here who is saying something negative - would be rooting for the pot growers.
PERIOD.

If these were pot growers taking over a federal installation with guns, they would already be dead. Same rules should apply for these assholes.

Not in Oregon they wouldn't.

My, my, another outsider trying tell me how the people in my state do things. You know, there is a reason that more people are moving to Oregon than to any other state.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

So can you get Reno out their to kill them and their families?

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[Old Rocks]

Kosher is flat out lying. The Sheriff, and the City Council have both stated that they don't want the militia there, and that most of the people there don't want them there.

 

[koshergrl]

This is how the BLM handles elderly Shoshone Indians who refuse to cede treaty rights to ancestral lands.
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[koshergrl]

Kosher is flat out lying. The Sheriff, and the City Council have both stated that they don't want the militia there, and that most of the people there don't want them there.

You're the liar. The Sheriff has been plied with requests from the locals to ask the FEDS to leave, and every person who speaks on the matter says that while they don't agree with the trespass, they DEFINITELY understand the motivation and are hopeful that now there's some attention being paid to the situation, maybe the Feds will pull the BLM pigs off their necks.

 

[Uncensored2008]

And he's lying. The locals don't mind them there. The locals are thrilled that FINALLY their situation is getting some attention.

The Hammond's served their sentence. For a federal judge to order them back to prison after their sentence is complete is unconstitutional, the attachment of double jeopardy. Now we know the Obama regime shits on the Constitution and has zero regard for the laws of this nation.

That said, legal action against the Ninth Circuit court is the best option, tie up the leftist scum until the SCOTUS hears it.

I'm not sure what Bundy and his group really think they will accomplish.

 

[Old Rocks]

Is that what you call information, Kosher? A set of pictures without an informative link to what the whole picture is? And we are not dealing with that situation here, whatever that situation is. What we are dealing with here is the armed takeover of Federal Land, that is the defintion of sedition, and deserves to be treated as such.

I imagine the Government, local and federal, will keep a low profile, and let the locos run themselves out of food. Then, after they leave, swear out warrants and pick them up one at a time. I do hope they go for the maximum sentences for all of these miscreants.

 

[Skylar]

And he's lying. The locals don't mind them there. The locals are thrilled that FINALLY their situation is getting some attention.

The Hammond's served their sentence. For a federal judge to order them back to prison after their sentence is complete is unconstitutional, the attachment of double jeopardy.

Nope. Double jeopardy is a prohibition against trying a person twice for the same crime. Not changing their sentence. Sentences are changed all the time, plea bargains thrown out, etc.

The Hammonds themselves requested that the USSC reduce their sentence. Something that would be legally impossible if your pseudo-legal nonsense was actually true.

Remember, you don't actually know what you're talking about. Nor have the slightest clue what the terms you're using actually mean.

 

[Uncensored2008]

My, my, another outsider trying tell me how the people in my state do things. You know, there is a reason that more people are moving to Oregon than to any other state.

Uh shit fer brains? It is "outsiders" in the form of federal courts who are sending men back to prison after the completion of their sentence. That is called "double jeopardy" and violates the Constitution of the United States of America.

Now look, I realize that you are a member of the democratic - socialist party and are dedicated to eradicating the Constitution, as is that fuckwad of a god you worship. But there are still many of us who cling to the nation ruled by law rather than your god.

 

[Old Rocks]

And he's lying. The locals don't mind them there. The locals are thrilled that FINALLY their situation is getting some attention.

The Hammond's served their sentence. For a federal judge to order them back to prison after their sentence is complete is unconstitutional, the attachment of double jeopardy. Now we know the Obama regime shits on the Constitution and has zero regard for the laws of this nation.

That said, legal action against the Ninth Circuit court is the best option, tie up the leftist scum until the SCOTUS hears it.

I'm not sure what Bundy and his group really think they will accomplish.

Everything that Bundy will accomplish will be negative. As stated many times previously, were I in Burns at the time of the march, I would have been in it. The Hammond's are getting a raw deal, and it needs to be addressed through the courts.

Bundy is now stating it is all about taking down the Federal Government. He cares not a bit about the Hammond's or the people of Harney County. He simply in this for his twisted vision.

 

[Old Rocks]

My, my, another outsider trying tell me how the people in my state do things. You know, there is a reason that more people are moving to Oregon than to any other state.

Uh shit fer brains? It is "outsiders" in the form of federal courts who are sending men back to prison after the completion of their sentence. That is called "double jeopardy" and violates the Constitution of the United States of America.

Now look, I realize that you are a member of the democratic - socialist party and are dedicated to eradicating the Constitution, as is that fuckwad of a god you worship. But there are still many of us who cling to the nation ruled by law rather than your god.

Look little illiterate cocksuck, were you to read my previous statements, you would know that I oppose the nonsense sentence of terrorism the Hammond's are serving. You would also know that I think that the Bundy's fully deserve that sentence, and more.

If you are going to reply to people, reply to what they said, not to what you wish they had said. You cannot just shoehorn everybody into your idiotic world of all black and all white.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Nope. Double jeopardy is a prohibition against trying a person twice for the same crime. Not changing their sentence. Sentences are changed all the time, plea bargains thrown out, etc.

So what you're saying is that the federal thugs are sending men to prison with no charges and no trial?

Sentences are NOT changed after the completion of the sentence and release of the prisoners. The Hammond's are political prisoners of the criminal Obama regime.

In America, the party cannot put people in prison because they don't like them.

The Hammonds themselves requested that the USSC reduce their sentence. Something that would be legally impossible if your pseudo-legal nonsense was actually true.

Remember, you don't actually know what you're talking about. Nor have the slightest clue what the terms you're using actually mean.

The Hammond's served their entire sentence. In a nation of laws, people are not put back into prison because the regime is offended by their words.

Remember, you are a thug who shits on the Constitution and the concept of law.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Everything that Bundy will accomplish will be negative. As stated many times previously, were I in Burns at the time of the march, I would have been in it. The Hammond's are getting a raw deal, and it needs to be addressed through the courts.

Bundy is now stating it is all about taking down the Federal Government. He cares not a bit about the Hammond's or the people of Harney County. He simply in this for his twisted vision.

Comrade, you're an internet tough guy; so why don't you pick up a can of pepper spray and go arrest these men in the name of your personal lord and saviour, Barack Obama? I'm sure they would collapse in fear at the sight of you prancing up to the door, lisping orders at them....

 

[koshergrl]

And he's lying. The locals don't mind them there. The locals are thrilled that FINALLY their situation is getting some attention.

The Hammond's served their sentence. For a federal judge to order them back to prison after their sentence is complete is unconstitutional, the attachment of double jeopardy. Now we know the Obama regime shits on the Constitution and has zero regard for the laws of this nation.

That said, legal action against the Ninth Circuit court is the best option, tie up the leftist scum until the SCOTUS hears it.

I'm not sure what Bundy and his group really think they will accomplish.

Everything that Bundy will accomplish will be negative. As stated many times previously, were I in Burns at the time of the march, I would have been in it. The Hammond's are getting a raw deal, and it needs to be addressed through the courts.

Bundy is now stating it is all about taking down the Federal Government. He cares not a bit about the Hammond's or the people of Harney County. He simply in this for his twisted vision.

He's already accomplished positive things for Harney County. Who cares what you've stated, you're a lefty urbanite statist who has no understanding of the people, or the issues.

 

[Seawytch]

Nope. Double jeopardy is a prohibition against trying a person twice for the same crime. Not changing their sentence. Sentences are changed all the time, plea bargains thrown out, etc.

So what you're saying is that the federal thugs are sending men to prison with no charges and no trial?

Sentences are NOT changed after the completion of the sentence and release of the prisoners. The Hammond's are political prisoners of the criminal Obama regime.

In America, the party cannot put people in prison because they don't like them.

The Hammonds themselves requested that the USSC reduce their sentence. Something that would be legally impossible if your pseudo-legal nonsense was actually true.

Remember, you don't actually know what you're talking about. Nor have the slightest clue what the terms you're using actually mean.

The Hammond's served their entire sentence. In a nation of laws, people are not put back into prison because the regime is offended by their words.

Remember, you are a thug who shits on the Constitution and the concept of law.

No, they didn't. They did not receive the MANDATORY minimum sentence for their crime.

Now, I'm more than happy to have a discussion on mandatory minimum sentences...but it is a separate issue.

 

[Skylar]

Nope. Double jeopardy is a prohibition against trying a person twice for the same crime. Not changing their sentence. Sentences are changed all the time, plea bargains thrown out, etc.

So what you're saying is that the federal thugs are sending men to prison with no charges and no trial?

You're obviously confused. The Hammonds were charged, tried and convicted.

Sentences are NOT changed after the completion of the sentence and release of the prisoners. The Hammond's are political prisoners of the criminal Obama regime.

Sure they are. Especially when the cases are still being appealed. See Pollard V. US. Pollard was released on parole. And the appeals court found that the lower court released him in error. So back to prison Pollard went.

In the Hammond case, the appeals court found that the lower court hadn't applied statutory mandatory minimums when they should have, and that the Hammonds were released in error. So, just like Pollard, back to prison the Hammonds went.

Remember, and I can't stress this point enough: you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Look little illiterate cocksuck, were you to read my previous statements, you would know that I oppose the nonsense sentence of terrorism the Hammond's are serving. You would also know that I think that the Bundy's fully deserve that sentence, and more.

If you are going to reply to people, reply to what they said, not to what you wish they had said. You cannot just shoehorn everybody into your idiotic world of all black and all white.

LOL;

Poor sucks old cocks, you get so emotional. Perhaps a Midol would help?

Regardless of the charge, the fact is the Hammond's served the legally proscribed sentence handed down by the presiding judge. For the 9th to impose additional penalty after their release, and promoted by political activism on their part is an outrage to any person who supports the notion of law and justice - which of course excludes you and your fellow leftists.

The Hammond's served their sentence, for the thugs of the 9th to try and take them now is an act of kidnapping and terrorism by the 9th.

 

[Old Rocks]

Nope. Double jeopardy is a prohibition against trying a person twice for the same crime. Not changing their sentence. Sentences are changed all the time, plea bargains thrown out, etc.

So what you're saying is that the federal thugs are sending men to prison with no charges and no trial?

Sentences are NOT changed after the completion of the sentence and release of the prisoners. The Hammond's are political prisoners of the criminal Obama regime.

In America, the party cannot put people in prison because they don't like them.

The Hammonds themselves requested that the USSC reduce their sentence. Something that would be legally impossible if your pseudo-legal nonsense was actually true.

Remember, you don't actually know what you're talking about. Nor have the slightest clue what the terms you're using actually mean.

The Hammond's served their entire sentence. In a nation of laws, people are not put back into prison because the regime is offended by their words.

Remember, you are a thug who shits on the Constitution and the concept of law.

LOL. The Hammond's are prisoners of a poorly written law mandating minimum sentences. Since the law was passed because of some fruitloop eco-terrorists, you almost certainly supported it. It is unjust in this case, and should not have been applied. But it's application was perfectly legal in all aspects. All too often perfectly legal has nothing to do with justice.

Now idiots like you are trying to make it into a case against the President and government. The law pre-dates 2008, and its unjust enforcement is a matter for the courts. The Bundy's are taking the focus away from that, and actually hurting the Hammod's, not that they give a damn.

 

[Uncensored2008]

No, they didn't. They did not receive the MANDATORY minimum sentence for their crime.

The judge in the case ruled that the minimum was unjust and sentenced to two years, which they served and were released on.

Sentence complete. Despite your idiot Comrade's bullshit, jeopardy DOES attach, which was the argument of the defense when the federal judge initially engaged in his terrorist attempt to kidnap the Hammond's as response to their anti-government statements after release (the reason for their fear to say anything that might upset the criminal Obama regime now.) The 9th circuit ruled "fuck the constitution, these are enemies of the party and the people." (They worded is differently, but that is the gist of it..)

Now, I'm more than happy to have a discussion on mandatory minimum sentences...but it is a separate issue.

I believe that Bundy is acting in a way contrary to a reasonable outcome, but the federal government are terrorists which does limit the actions in response to their terrorism.

 

[charwin95]

Stupid ass. This is not about Waco, this is about a bunch of outsiders that are not wanted and are causing trouble.

Infidels who fail to bow to the living god you worship.

So can you get Reno out their to kill them and their families?

they think they can come in with their arsenal, and bully the whole community, and the US Government, as well. They need to spend major time in the iron bar hotel.

I thought you wanted to slaughter them all? These are white people. Isn't it the policy of the democratic - socialist party that whites should be killed on sight? Remember, white lives don't matter.

And he's lying. The locals don't mind them there. The locals are thrilled that FINALLY their situation is getting some attention.

That is incorrect. Do you have a LINK to support your claim? Even the Hanmond family reject these assholes.

Oregon ranchers reject Cliven Bundy family occupation