Mortimer
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A far-right government sponsored group, masked men attack roma camp. Kill one, injured several including little children. Hardly makes it in the news.
Ukraine Roma camp attack leaves one dead One person has been killed in an attack on a Roma camp in Ukraine late on Saturday night.A masked group armed with batons and other weapons targeted the camp on the outskirts of the western city of Lviv, according to local police. Seven people have been arrested.A 24-year-old man died of stab wounds, while four others - including a 10-year-old boy - were injured. It is the latest in a series of attacks on Ukraine's Roma community.In April, the far-right group C14 burnt down tents in a Roma camp in the capital Kiev and chased women and children. In a joint letter earlier this month, human rights groups including Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch warned against the increase in attacks by far-right groups on minorities in Ukraine. They said that authorities had "failed" to respond to most incidents, leading to "an atmosphere of near total impunity that cannot but embolden these groups to commit more attacks".The last Ukrainian census in 2001 estimated the Roma population to be around 40,000, although rights groups say the figure could be as high as 260,000.The Roma face discrimination in many countries, with the UN describing them as being "among Europe's most excluded groups".On Tuesday, Italy's right-wing populist Interior Minister Matteo Salvini caused an outcry after calling for a census of the Roma community. He said that Roma with no right to remain in Italy would be deported, but "unfortunately" those with Italian citizenship would have to stay. His coalition ally and leader of the anti-establishment Five Star movement, Luigi di Maio, later rebutted his comments, making it clear that a census was unconstitutional.
I'm sure the attackers felt justified in their actions. They might have even used their religion as an excuse. That's what happens when hateful groups are allowed to flourish.
Sure they felt justified. But were they? And your country brought those people to power in Ukraine. USA and EU back them up. First they only killed Russians now also Roma.
Like most Americans, I have no idea what happened, or who caused it. I do know murdering children is evil, no matter who does it, or why.
Sounds as if you make excuses for those fascists, Sad considering you introduced yourself as somehow progressive or liberal before to me. Or I had only impression?
I'm making excuses for no one. I regret that I don't know the history of the conflict. If I did, I could make an informed decision about what is happening. Taking your description of what happened with no further explanation would be as bad as siding with the group you call C14 with no supporting evidence. I do condemn the deaths of children from any source, but .I prefer to know what I'm talking about before I "take sides" in any unfamiliar conflict. I'm sorry you disapprove of my indecisive remark, but I just don't have enough knowledge to do more.
Ok but its quiete easy, a weak minority who lives in camp squalors gets attacked by masked formations of men what is there to know about? Do you think there is background info thats its the gypsies fault?