Attorney General Eric Holder against religious freedom

Communist Goal #17:
Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
Can't do that when there's Home Schooling.

Fallacy #1 ^^ - just make something up, post it with no link, and attribute it to strawman of choice.

What you describe there has nothing to do with communism. On the contrary, it's authoritarianism. You're approaching the supreme ignorance of the OP where it actually says with a straight face, "Is Mr. Holder a communist or a facist?", obviously with no clue to what either term means.

For a fallacy hunter, this thread is a freaking gold mine.
 
there is also the problem of parents teaching the child in a manner that constitutes abuse.


if you teach your child that the things taught in schools are evil and wrong you have limited thier life in a really sad way.

they will have to heave your ideas or live a miserable life.

Indeed. That's how you create Westboro.

I believe in some exceptions to this like for example in Philly, I know lots of parents who are home schooling their kids because of bullying and violence in the schools and teh school's lack of effort to stop it.

Good. More power to 'em. Wish my parents had had the wherewithal to do that, but it wouldn't have been possible. Truthmatters wasn't referring to the idea of home schooling in general but to the specific attitude espoused right in this thread, "if you teach your child that things taught in schools are evil". To socially polarize one's children in any way does them a gross disservice that they'll have to undo on their own or suffer the effects.

The poignant irony is that fringe loonies will rail about the state indoctrinating and polluting their kids' minds with the state's ideologies, and to prevent that, will keep them at home where they can indoctrinate and pollute their kids' minds with their own ideologies. And they don't even see the irony in carrying out all that wasted effort that ultimately brings them to the same place.
 
there is also the problem of parents teaching the child in a manner that constitutes abuse.


if you teach your child that the things taught in schools are evil and wrong you have limited their life in a really sad way.

they will have to heave your ideas or live a miserable life.

Isn't the opposite just as true? And what percentage of children in home schooling situations end their lives miserable? And what percentage of public school students do? And whose business is it anyway?
 
Attorney General Eric Holder is disputing a case which argues against Germany's ban on homeschooling. Attorney General Holder believes such a ban fails to violate the family's fundamental rights. Could this mean that home schooling in the United States is threatened and is coming under governmental attack? Might children be removed from parents here who are against enrolling their children in the public school system? The ban in Germany was instituted by Hitler! And now Germany is applying the ban to make sure children receive proper educational indoctrination. And our Attorney General sees nothing wrong with this. Is Mr. Holder a communist or a facist? What does our Presedient think?

Please see: WORLD | Christian homeschoolers losing deportation fight | Mary Jackson | Feb. 13, 2013

There's a bit more to being awarded asylum in this country than claiming that the country you live in doesn't have exactly the same constitutional rights that the US has.

So, what exactly is wrong with Mexico anyway?
 
Germany has lots of Turkish immigrants who live in areas where only Turkish is spoken and the people don't know German but they're getting all the social benefits of living in Germany, maybe that has a lot to do with why Germany is doing this? Jackass. I live here right now so I know, nothing worse than retards who know nothing about Germany but like shooting their mouths off.
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The US has lots of Mexican immigrants who live in areas where only Spanish is spoken and the people don't know English but they're getting all the social benefits of living in the US, maybe that has a lot to do with why Eric supports it?
 
Indeed. That's how you create Westboro.

I believe in some exceptions to this like for example in Philly, I know lots of parents who are home schooling their kids because of bullying and violence in the schools and teh school's lack of effort to stop it.

Good. More power to 'em. Wish my parents had had the wherewithal to do that, but it wouldn't have been possible. Truthmatters wasn't referring to the idea of home schooling in general but to the specific attitude espoused right in this thread, "if you teach your child that things taught in schools are evil". To socially polarize one's children in any way does them a gross disservice that they'll have to undo on their own or suffer the effects.

The poignant irony is that fringe loonies will rail about the state indoctrinating and polluting their kids' minds with the state's ideologies, and to prevent that, will keep them at home where they can indoctrinate and pollute their kids' minds with their own ideologies. And they don't even see the irony in carrying out all that wasted effort that ultimately brings them to the same place.

Is teaching that creationism has merit wrong? Is teaching that evolution is but a theory that should be investigated but not accepted without the understanding that there are other posibilities that are just as valid wrong? Is reading from the Bible and trying to figure out what is being said wrong? Is saying that what one dwells on might just become a bad habit? Is lecturing someone that there is more to life than sex wrong? It seems to me that public schools are far more on the fringe and far less open to what counts, and that is reasoning and finding truth. Political correctness is not the way one goes about finding either.
 
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Communist Goal #17:
Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
Can't do that when there's Home Schooling.

Fallacy #1 ^^ - just make something up, post it with no link, and attribute it to strawman of choice.

What you describe there has nothing to do with communism. On the contrary, it's authoritarianism. You're approaching the supreme ignorance of the OP where it actually says with a straight face, "Is Mr. Holder a communist or a fascist?", obviously with no clue to what either term means.

For a fallacy hunter, this thread is a freaking gold mine.

Both communism and fascism are supported by authoritarianism. It is not about the lift or right, it is about the bottom of the circle --- where the two meet...
 
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Communist Goal #17:
Can't do that when there's Home Schooling.[/SIZE]

Fallacy #1 ^^ - just make something up, post it with no link, and attribute it to strawman of choice.

What you describe there has nothing to do with communism. On the contrary, it's authoritarianism. You're approaching the supreme ignorance of the OP where it actually says with a straight face, "Is Mr. Holder a communist or a fascist?", obviously with no clue to what either term means.

For a fallacy hunter, this thread is a freaking gold mine.

Both communism and fascism are supported by authoritarianism. It is not about the lift or right, it is about the bottom of the circle --- where the two meet...

Capitalism can be support by authoritarianism too. If you don't think so, just give the Koch brothers a chance. What do you say to that?
 
Fallacy #1 ^^ - just make something up, post it with no link, and attribute it to strawman of choice.

What you describe there has nothing to do with communism. On the contrary, it's authoritarianism. You're approaching the supreme ignorance of the OP where it actually says with a straight face, "Is Mr. Holder a communist or a fascist?", obviously with no clue to what either term means.

For a fallacy hunter, this thread is a freaking gold mine.

Both communism and fascism are supported by authoritarianism. It is not about the lift or right, it is about the bottom of the circle --- where the two meet...

Capitalism can be support by authoritarianism too. If you don't think so, just give the Koch brothers a chance. What do you say to that?

Absolutely it can, and I rail against that threat every day. I'm puzzled as to where you get off suggesting I 'don't think so' :confused: -- you deleted the original post I commented on, which is crucial, so I'll have to reinsert it here:

Communist Goal #17:
Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
Can't do that when there's Home Schooling.

My point was this poster puts up an unattributed quote from nowhere, sets it in a quote box as if it came from somewhere, declares it to be some kind of maxim, and appends a fallacious association, and that that tactic has no rhetorical value whatseover. It's a nonargument.

Don't put words in my mouth. I don't take kindly to distortions, especially ones that try to turn me 180 degrees from where I live.
 
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Fallacy #1 ^^ - just make something up, post it with no link, and attribute it to strawman of choice.

What you describe there has nothing to do with communism. On the contrary, it's authoritarianism. You're approaching the supreme ignorance of the OP where it actually says with a straight face, "Is Mr. Holder a communist or a fascist?", obviously with no clue to what either term means.

For a fallacy hunter, this thread is a freaking gold mine.

Both communism and fascism are supported by authoritarianism. It is not about the lift or right, it is about the bottom of the circle --- where the two meet...

Capitalism can be support by authoritarianism too. If you don't think so, just give the Koch brothers a chance. What do you say to that?
To a point maybe; however, for capitalism to flourish, there needs to be a market of buyers. And authoritarianism tends to destroy the middle class, while the rich flee...
 
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Germany has lots of Turkish immigrants who live in areas where only Turkish is spoken and the people don't know German but they're getting all the social benefits of living in Germany, maybe that has a lot to do with why Germany is doing this? Jackass. I live here right now so I know, nothing worse than retards who know nothing about Germany but like shooting their mouths off.
:cuckoo:



The US has lots of Mexican immigrants who live in areas where only Spanish is spoken and the people don't know English but they're getting all the social benefits of living in the US, maybe that has a lot to do with why Eric supports it?

The Obama adminsitration has deported more Mexican illegals than Bush you dumbass, what they're proposing is giving a pathway to citizenship for those who have already been here for years and are hard working and law abiding, when they are doing that it makes little sense to deport them, what the fuck does Holder have to do with that? Lame ass strawman argument.
 

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