CDZ Barack Obama...Greatest President of Modern times

In Obama's last day as President, it is clear that he is the greatest modern President (post war)


If anyone disagrees....you must name a President with more accomplishments

Go
Arguing this point with you is a fools errand. You would never concede the point even if you where proven wrong. BTW a defacto government take-over of 1/6 of the economy is not something ANY President should be proud of. That should be something that is only done in a time of actual crisis, and time limited, if done at all. Also, government meddling in the private sector to, essentially, choose winners and losers is a COMMUNIST tactic. Go ahead prove ME wrong.
 
I open this discussion with if you think President Obama is not the greatest president of modern times you have to name the president and what he accomplished that is better than Obama

Great? No. Great would have been if he was able to circumvent rightwingnut obstruction and kept the house and senate.

he was a good president on domestic issues. not so good on foreign policy. but a vast improvement over his predecessor and heads and shoulders above his sociopathic successor.
 
In Obama's last day as President, it is clear that he is the greatest modern President (post war)


If anyone disagrees....you must name a President with more accomplishments

Go
Arguing this point with you is a fools errand. You would never concede the point even if you where proven wrong. BTW a defacto government take-over of 1/6 of the economy is not something ANY President should be proud of. That should be something that is only done in a time of actual crisis, and time limited, if done at all. Also, government meddling in the private sector to, essentially, choose winners and losers is a COMMUNIST tactic. Go ahead prove ME wrong.
You lose once you start.....Defacto government takeover
 
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Reagan.....forced the collapse of the evil Soviet Union, gave us the longests sustained economic growth, and made America the great country it used to be before carter took over.

OK

At least we have one Conservative with balls

Unfortunately, it is a myth that "Reagan collapsed the Soviet Union"
Anyone with any knowledge of economics realizes that Reagan could not have caused the collapse in a little over two years. His Star Wars plans were just pie in the sky and no Soviet counter was needed. The Soviets didn't invest anything in beating Star Wars. The USSR had been collapsing for decades and their ill advised invasion and occupation of Afghanistan pushed them over the brink

Reagan built his economic growth on tripling the debt. A formula Conservatives said they despise


Uhm no everyone knows world wide that Reagan was responsible for destroying the Soviet Union..


And you don't have a clue what his Star Wars program led up to.

.
 
Reagan.....forced the collapse of the evil Soviet Union, gave us the longests sustained economic growth, and made America the great country it used to be before carter took over.

OK

At least we have one Conservative with balls

Unfortunately, it is a myth that "Reagan collapsed the Soviet Union"
Anyone with any knowledge of economics realizes that Reagan could not have caused the collapse in a little over two years. His Star Wars plans were just pie in the sky and no Soviet counter was needed. The Soviets didn't invest anything in beating Star Wars. The USSR had been collapsing for decades and their ill advised invasion and occupation of Afghanistan pushed them over the brink

Reagan built his economic growth on tripling the debt. A formula Conservatives said they despise


Uhm no everyone knows world wide that Reagan was responsible for destroying the Soviet Union..


And you don't have a clue what his Star Wars program led up to.

.

He's spewing loon talking points, a prime example of the Star Wars program is the USN's newest weapons
 
Reagan.....forced the collapse of the evil Soviet Union, gave us the longests sustained economic growth, and made America the great country it used to be before carter took over.

OK

At least we have one Conservative with balls

Unfortunately, it is a myth that "Reagan collapsed the Soviet Union"
Anyone with any knowledge of economics realizes that Reagan could not have caused the collapse in a little over two years. His Star Wars plans were just pie in the sky and no Soviet counter was needed. The Soviets didn't invest anything in beating Star Wars. The USSR had been collapsing for decades and their ill advised invasion and occupation of Afghanistan pushed them over the brink

Reagan built his economic growth on tripling the debt. A formula Conservatives said they despise


Uhm no everyone knows world wide that Reagan was responsible for destroying the Soviet Union..


And you don't have a clue what his Star Wars program led up to.

.
Actually, that view only exists in rightwing revisionist history

Star Wars was ultimately used as a bargaining chip in the START treaty. We bargained something we never had and had no chance of developing

It did not lead to the fall of the Soviet Union
 
Reagan.....forced the collapse of the evil Soviet Union, gave us the longests sustained economic growth, and made America the great country it used to be before carter took over.

OK

At least we have one Conservative with balls

Unfortunately, it is a myth that "Reagan collapsed the Soviet Union"
Anyone with any knowledge of economics realizes that Reagan could not have caused the collapse in a little over two years. His Star Wars plans were just pie in the sky and no Soviet counter was needed. The Soviets didn't invest anything in beating Star Wars. The USSR had been collapsing for decades and their ill advised invasion and occupation of Afghanistan pushed them over the brink

Reagan built his economic growth on tripling the debt. A formula Conservatives said they despise


Uhm no everyone knows world wide that Reagan was responsible for destroying the Soviet Union..


And you don't have a clue what his Star Wars program led up to.

.

He's spewing loon talking points, a prime example of the Star Wars program is the USN's newest weapons

Show us
 
Ranking of Modern Presidents

1. Obama
2. Eisenhower
3. Reagan
4. Truman
5. Clinton
6. LBJ
7. JFK
8. Bush 41
9. Nixon
10. Ford
11. Carter
12. Bush 43


Bwahahahaha..

Ranking of modern presidents

1 JFk
2. LBJ.
3.Reagan
4. Eisenhower
5. Nixon
6. Bush 41
7. Clinton
Ford, Carter, Bush 43 and Obama tied for last place.
 
Reagan.....forced the collapse of the evil Soviet Union, gave us the longests sustained economic growth, and made America the great country it used to be before carter took over.

OK

At least we have one Conservative with balls

Unfortunately, it is a myth that "Reagan collapsed the Soviet Union"
Anyone with any knowledge of economics realizes that Reagan could not have caused the collapse in a little over two years. His Star Wars plans were just pie in the sky and no Soviet counter was needed. The Soviets didn't invest anything in beating Star Wars. The USSR had been collapsing for decades and their ill advised invasion and occupation of Afghanistan pushed them over the brink

Reagan built his economic growth on tripling the debt. A formula Conservatives said they despise


Uhm no everyone knows world wide that Reagan was responsible for destroying the Soviet Union..


And you don't have a clue what his Star Wars program led up to.

.

He's spewing loon talking points, a prime example of the Star Wars program is the USN's newest weapons

Show us

The USAF and USN have both said they will be ready to deploy combat lasers on fighters by 2020, they are also working on a type of force field protection
 
Reagan.....forced the collapse of the evil Soviet Union, gave us the longests sustained economic growth, and made America the great country it used to be before carter took over.

OK

At least we have one Conservative with balls

Unfortunately, it is a myth that "Reagan collapsed the Soviet Union"
Anyone with any knowledge of economics realizes that Reagan could not have caused the collapse in a little over two years. His Star Wars plans were just pie in the sky and no Soviet counter was needed. The Soviets didn't invest anything in beating Star Wars. The USSR had been collapsing for decades and their ill advised invasion and occupation of Afghanistan pushed them over the brink

Reagan built his economic growth on tripling the debt. A formula Conservatives said they despise


Uhm no everyone knows world wide that Reagan was responsible for destroying the Soviet Union..


And you don't have a clue what his Star Wars program led up to.

.

He's spewing loon talking points, a prime example of the Star Wars program is the USN's newest weapons

Show us

The USAF and USN have both said they will be ready to deploy combat lasers on fighters by 2020, they are also working on a type of force field protection

The USN also has this plus lasers oboard ships

US Navy to use ‘Star Wars technology’
 
Reagan.....forced the collapse of the evil Soviet Union, gave us the longests sustained economic growth, and made America the great country it used to be before carter took over.

OK

At least we have one Conservative with balls

Unfortunately, it is a myth that "Reagan collapsed the Soviet Union"
Anyone with any knowledge of economics realizes that Reagan could not have caused the collapse in a little over two years. His Star Wars plans were just pie in the sky and no Soviet counter was needed. The Soviets didn't invest anything in beating Star Wars. The USSR had been collapsing for decades and their ill advised invasion and occupation of Afghanistan pushed them over the brink

Reagan built his economic growth on tripling the debt. A formula Conservatives said they despise


Uhm no everyone knows world wide that Reagan was responsible for destroying the Soviet Union..


And you don't have a clue what his Star Wars program led up to.

.
Actually, that view only exists in rightwing revisionist history

Star Wars was ultimately used as a bargaining chip in the START treaty. We bargained something we never had and had no chance of developing

It did not lead to the fall of the Soviet Union


It led to this..


And pictures are worth a thousand words ...

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Yes Virginia Reagan's Star Wars plan worked
 
I open this discussion with if you think President Obama is not the greatest president of modern times you have to name the president and what he accomplished that is better than Obama

I don't see as a lefty how you can think he was better than Clinton. At least Clinton compromised and worked with his Republican Congress. He may had done it with gnashing teeth, but he at least did it. He still gets credit for the bills the Republicans put on his desk.

Obama did no such thing. He dug his heels in after he lost his Dem Congress in 2011. He refused to compromise or work with Republicans that held the Congress for the rest of his Presidency. What little he did get accomplished those first two years, is set to be undone by the new Repub President and Congress. All because he refused to work with them. He will go down as one of the worst President in history as he accomplished nothing. Although he can be credited with decimating the Democrat Party across the nation. They've lost so many lock, state, and federal elections.
 
Reagan.....forced the collapse of the evil Soviet Union, gave us the longests sustained economic growth, and made America the great country it used to be before carter took over.

OK

At least we have one Conservative with balls

Unfortunately, it is a myth that "Reagan collapsed the Soviet Union"
Anyone with any knowledge of economics realizes that Reagan could not have caused the collapse in a little over two years. His Star Wars plans were just pie in the sky and no Soviet counter was needed. The Soviets didn't invest anything in beating Star Wars. The USSR had been collapsing for decades and their ill advised invasion and occupation of Afghanistan pushed them over the brink

Reagan built his economic growth on tripling the debt. A formula Conservatives said they despise


Uhm no everyone knows world wide that Reagan was responsible for destroying the Soviet Union..


And you don't have a clue what his Star Wars program led up to.

.

He's spewing loon talking points, a prime example of the Star Wars program is the USN's newest weapons

Show us

The USAF and USN have both said they will be ready to deploy combat lasers on fighters by 2020, they are also working on a type of force field protection

2020 is 40 years after Reagan became President

Neither system is designed to knock down intercontinental missiles from space
 
OK

At least we have one Conservative with balls

Unfortunately, it is a myth that "Reagan collapsed the Soviet Union"
Anyone with any knowledge of economics realizes that Reagan could not have caused the collapse in a little over two years. His Star Wars plans were just pie in the sky and no Soviet counter was needed. The Soviets didn't invest anything in beating Star Wars. The USSR had been collapsing for decades and their ill advised invasion and occupation of Afghanistan pushed them over the brink

Reagan built his economic growth on tripling the debt. A formula Conservatives said they despise


Uhm no everyone knows world wide that Reagan was responsible for destroying the Soviet Union..


And you don't have a clue what his Star Wars program led up to.

.

He's spewing loon talking points, a prime example of the Star Wars program is the USN's newest weapons

Show us

The USAF and USN have both said they will be ready to deploy combat lasers on fighters by 2020, they are also working on a type of force field protection

The USN also has this plus lasers oboard ships

US Navy to use ‘Star Wars technology’


Damn sassy you are getting good at this in the years i have known you..

My mission here is almost done

.
 
Uhm no everyone knows world wide that Reagan was responsible for destroying the Soviet Union..


And you don't have a clue what his Star Wars program led up to.

.

He's spewing loon talking points, a prime example of the Star Wars program is the USN's newest weapons

Show us

The USAF and USN have both said they will be ready to deploy combat lasers on fighters by 2020, they are also working on a type of force field protection

The USN also has this plus lasers oboard ships

US Navy to use ‘Star Wars technology’


Damn sassy you are getting good at this in the years i have known you..

My mission here is almost done

.

I remember years ago the loons squawking and whining about Reagan and his Star Wars...knowing all along what was happening with it. I'm a Navy brat and my grandpa was USAF :)
 

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