Ben Carson’s absurd notion that the Founding Fathers had ‘no elected office experience’

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This guy is starting to sound like he's doing satire,

of himself.

“Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.”

— Dr. Ben Carson, in a Facebook post, Nov. 4, 2015

Carson, a political novice running for the GOP presidential nomination, made this observation in a late-night Facebook post defending his lack of political experience. As he put it:

“You are absolutely right — I have no political experience. The current Members of Congress have a combined 8,700 years of political experience. Are we sure political experience is what we need. Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience. What they had was a deep belief that freedom is a gift from God. They had a determination to rise up against a tyrannical King.”
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The Facts
Let’s start with Thomas Jefferson, the primary writer of the Declaration of Independence. Years earlier, he had been a student at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg. As luck would have it, the House of Burgesses met there, and so Jefferson as a student was able to witness legislative debates.

The House of Burgesses was the first European-style legislative assembly in the Americas, having first been formed in 1619. And in 1769, seven years before penning the Declaration, Jefferson was elected to the House of Burgesses. As an online biography of the signers said: “It was there that his involvement in revolutionary politics began. He was never a very vocal member, but his writing, his quiet work in committee, and his ability to distill large volumes of information to essence, made him an invaluable member in any deliberative body.”

Now let’s look at the other members of the drafting committee: John Adams (Mass.) was elected to the Massachusetts Assembly in 1770, Benjamin Franklin (Pa.) had been elected to the Pennsylvania Assembly in 1751 and served as speaker in 1764, and Roger Sherman (Conn.) had been elected to the Connecticut General Assembly in 1755. Only Robert R. Livingston (N.Y.) had minimal political experience.

Of the other 51 signers of the Declaration, we count at least 27 as having at least some elected office experience, primarily in Colonial assemblies.


John Hancock, president of the Continental Congress, had been elected to the Boston Assembly and had participated in the Stamp Act Congress, a gathering of elected representatives (from Colonial assemblies) to craft a response to new British tax laws. Some states sent delegations with little political experience, but every member of the seven-person delegation from Virginia had been elected to the Houses of Burgesses."


Please.

Ben Carson’s absurd notion that the Founding Fathers had ‘no elected office experience’
 
This guy is starting to sound like he's doing satire,

of himself.

“Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.”

— Dr. Ben Carson, in a Facebook post, Nov. 4, 2015

Carson, a political novice running for the GOP presidential nomination, made this observation in a late-night Facebook post defending his lack of political experience. As he put it:

“You are absolutely right — I have no political experience. The current Members of Congress have a combined 8,700 years of political experience. Are we sure political experience is what we need. Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience. What they had was a deep belief that freedom is a gift from God. They had a determination to rise up against a tyrannical King.”
...

The Facts
Let’s start with Thomas Jefferson, the primary writer of the Declaration of Independence. Years earlier, he had been a student at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg. As luck would have it, the House of Burgesses met there, and so Jefferson as a student was able to witness legislative debates.

The House of Burgesses was the first European-style legislative assembly in the Americas, having first been formed in 1619. And in 1769, seven years before penning the Declaration, Jefferson was elected to the House of Burgesses. As an online biography of the signers said: “It was there that his involvement in revolutionary politics began. He was never a very vocal member, but his writing, his quiet work in committee, and his ability to distill large volumes of information to essence, made him an invaluable member in any deliberative body.”

Now let’s look at the other members of the drafting committee: John Adams (Mass.) was elected to the Massachusetts Assembly in 1770, Benjamin Franklin (Pa.) had been elected to the Pennsylvania Assembly in 1751 and served as speaker in 1764, and Roger Sherman (Conn.) had been elected to the Connecticut General Assembly in 1755. Only Robert R. Livingston (N.Y.) had minimal political experience.

Of the other 51 signers of the Declaration, we count at least 27 as having at least some elected office experience, primarily in Colonial assemblies.


John Hancock, president of the Continental Congress, had been elected to the Boston Assembly and had participated in the Stamp Act Congress, a gathering of elected representatives (from Colonial assemblies) to craft a response to new British tax laws. Some states sent delegations with little political experience, but every member of the seven-person delegation from Virginia had been elected to the Houses of Burgesses."


Please.

Ben Carson’s absurd notion that the Founding Fathers had ‘no elected office experience’
And let's not forget...they were ALL elected or appointed to be in that Continental Congress.
 
Apparently you don't understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL elected positions.... but don't let a little thing like that get in the way of a "Hillaryous" left wingnut rant!
 
I won't deny that I'm ignorant, but I'm not running for President either. Well, at least Carson knows there aren't 57 states.
 
Carson is a very stupid man. There's no question about it. Yet, these loserterian assholes think they understand our founders and constitution so fucking much?

God help this nation if a carson, cruz or Rand get into office.
 
Carson is a very stupid man. There's no question about it. Yet, these loserterian assholes think they understand our founders and constitution so fucking much?

God help this nation if a carson, cruz or Rand get into office.
He's not stupid. Did you go to Yale?

Not knowing history is ignorance, not stupidity.
 
Apparently you don't understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL elected positions.... but don't let a little thing like that get in the way of a "Hillaryous" left wingnut rant!

This is the actual quote from Carson:
Ben Carson said:
"Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience."

I don't see any mention of "Federal" office experience. But anyways, that's kind of a ridiculous point anyway, since no national government existed before the Articles of Confederation. What do you want? Ben Franklin to be a duke under King George?
 
Apparently you don't understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL elected positions.... but don't let a little thing like that get in the way of a "Hillaryous" left wingnut rant!
STFU, mentoid. Carson made no such distinction, so you doing so is laughable and of no worth.
 
Carson is merely ignorant not stupid.

His supporter on this thread is ignorant and stupid.
 
Apparently you don't understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL elected positions.... but don't let a little thing like that get in the way of a "Hillaryous" left wingnut rant!
No way to spin this, guy. Carson made an ignorant statement. Period.
And I bet you were one of the REALLY BIGHT Socialists that believed Trump was talking about ALL MEXICAN'S instead of ILLEGAL MEXICAN'S!!!! Fucking leftwingnuts, keep this forum laughing at their stupidity! :ahole-1::badgrin::badgrin::badgrin::badgrin:
 
Apparently you don't understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL elected positions.... but don't let a little thing like that get in the way of a "Hillaryous" left wingnut rant!

This is the actual quote from Carson:
Ben Carson said:
"Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience."

I don't see any mention of "Federal" office experience. But anyways, that's kind of a ridiculous point anyway, since no national government existed before the Articles of Confederation. What do you want? Ben Franklin to be a duke under King George?

Doesn't have to have any, it's a given as THERE WAS NO ELECTED FEDERAL GOV'T ....PERIOD! Another fucking blown bulb as a mind!
 
Apparently you don't understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL elected positions.... but don't let a little thing like that get in the way of a "Hillaryous" left wingnut rant!
No way to spin this, guy. Carson made an ignorant statement. Period.
And I bet you were one of the REALLY BIGHT Socialists that believed Trump was talking about ALL MEXICAN'S instead of ILLEGAL MEXICAN'S!!!! Fucking leftwingnuts, keep this forum laughing at their stupidity! :ahole-1::badgrin::badgrin::badgrin::badgrin:
Deflection and worthless, like your opinion.
 
Apparently you don't understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL elected positions.... but don't let a little thing like that get in the way of a "Hillaryous" left wingnut rant!

This is the actual quote from Carson:
Ben Carson said:
"Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience."

I don't see any mention of "Federal" office experience. But anyways, that's kind of a ridiculous point anyway, since no national government existed before the Articles of Confederation. What do you want? Ben Franklin to be a duke under King George?

Doesn't have to have any, it's a given as THERE WAS NO ELECTED FEDERAL GOV'T ....PERIOD! Another fucking blown bulb as a mind!
And you got kicked into the gutter again.
 
Apparently you don't understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL elected positions.... but don't let a little thing like that get in the way of a "Hillaryous" left wingnut rant!
STFU, mentoid. Carson made no such distinction, so you doing so is laughable and of no worth.

And this from a supposed Republican.... What happened JakeAss your DemocRAT light "Kasick" got his ass kicked AGAIN in the debates, so now you're in another sour mood! :ahole-1:
 
Apparently you don't understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL elected positions.... but don't let a little thing like that get in the way of a "Hillaryous" left wingnut rant!
No way to spin this, guy. Carson made an ignorant statement. Period.
And I bet you were one of the REALLY BIGHT Socialists that believed Trump was talking about ALL MEXICAN'S instead of ILLEGAL MEXICAN'S!!!! Fucking leftwingnuts, keep this forum laughing at their stupidity! :ahole-1::badgrin::badgrin::badgrin::badgrin:
Deflection and worthless, like your opinion.


Yes, I see just how popular YOUR OPINIONS are by your PATHETIC RATINGS and you're here almost FIVE YEARS longer than I and enjoyed playing REP FROG that padded your ratings when we changed over to this new system.... You're not even LIGHT WEIGHT, :321::ahole-1:
 
Apparently you don't understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL elected positions.... but don't let a little thing like that get in the way of a "Hillaryous" left wingnut rant!

Too bad Carson didn't make that distinction. As it is, you're a retard.
 
Apparently you don't understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL elected positions.... but don't let a little thing like that get in the way of a "Hillaryous" left wingnut rant!
No way to spin this, guy. Carson made an ignorant statement. Period.
And I bet you were one of the REALLY BIGHT Socialists that believed Trump was talking about ALL MEXICAN'S instead of ILLEGAL MEXICAN'S!!!! Fucking leftwingnuts, keep this forum laughing at their stupidity! :ahole-1::badgrin::badgrin::badgrin::badgrin:
Deflection and worthless, like your opinion.


Yes, I see just how popular YOUR OPINIONS are by your PATHETIC RATINGS and you're here almost FIVE YEARS longer than I and enjoyed playing REP FROG that padded your ratings when we changed over to this new system.... You're not even LIGHT WEIGHT, :321::ahole-1:

Hanky?
 
All these cheap shots at Carson and the left still pretends that they don't suffer from the racism that created the democrat party.
 

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