Ben Carson’s absurd notion that the Founding Fathers had ‘no elected office experience’

[Vigilante]

No, IMPOSSIBLE, even YOU can't be THIS STUPID!

I'm sure that bringing up a non-sequitur about Trump in a thread about Carson seems logical to you but...well...to normal people, not so much.

Perhaps YOU should READ the thread, to TRY to understand where that came from... or continue to look stupid in the eyes of many of the forum....your call!

I know where it came from...the same place that most of your posts come from...

Yes, the truth...but if you knew this, why act like such an

I see what you did there.

Then, don't embarrass yourself again, and I won't have to point out your inadequacies!

 

[idb]

I'm sure that bringing up a non-sequitur about Trump in a thread about Carson seems logical to you but...well...to normal people, not so much.

Perhaps YOU should READ the thread, to TRY to understand where that came from... or continue to look stupid in the eyes of many of the forum....your call!

I know where it came from...the same place that most of your posts come from...

Yes, the truth...but if you knew this, why act like such an

I see what you did there.

Then, don't embarrass yourself again, and I won't have to point out your inadequacies!

I really think you can't see the irony in your claiming victory every post.
Quick...say something about Trump again!
Better still...post a hilarious meme!

 

[NYcarbineer]

This guy is starting to sound like he's doing satire,

of himself.

“Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.”

— Dr. Ben Carson, in a Facebook post, Nov. 4, 2015

Carson, a political novice running for the GOP presidential nomination, made this observation in a late-night Facebook post defending his lack of political experience. As he put it:

“You are absolutely right — I have no political experience. The current Members of Congress have a combined 8,700 years of political experience. Are we sure political experience is what we need. Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience. What they had was a deep belief that freedom is a gift from God. They had a determination to rise up against a tyrannical King.”
...

The Facts
Let’s start with Thomas Jefferson, the primary writer of the Declaration of Independence. Years earlier, he had been a student at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg. As luck would have it, the House of Burgesses met there, and so Jefferson as a student was able to witness legislative debates.

The House of Burgesses was the first European-style legislative assembly in the Americas, having first been formed in 1619. And in 1769, seven years before penning the Declaration, Jefferson was elected to the House of Burgesses. As an online biography of the signers said: “It was there that his involvement in revolutionary politics began. He was never a very vocal member, but his writing, his quiet work in committee, and his ability to distill large volumes of information to essence, made him an invaluable member in any deliberative body.”

Now let’s look at the other members of the drafting committee: John Adams (Mass.) was elected to the Massachusetts Assembly in 1770, Benjamin Franklin (Pa.) had been elected to the Pennsylvania Assembly in 1751 and served as speaker in 1764, and Roger Sherman (Conn.) had been elected to the Connecticut General Assembly in 1755. Only Robert R. Livingston (N.Y.) had minimal political experience.

Of the other 51 signers of the Declaration, we count at least 27 as having at least some elected office experience, primarily in Colonial assemblies.


John Hancock, president of the Continental Congress, had been elected to the Boston Assembly and had participated in the Stamp Act Congress, a gathering of elected representatives (from Colonial assemblies) to craft a response to new British tax laws. Some states sent delegations with little political experience, but every member of the seven-person delegation from Virginia had been elected to the Houses of Burgesses."

Please.

Ben Carson’s absurd notion that the Founding Fathers had ‘no elected office experience’

Washington did not want the job, he reluctantly took it seeing it as an duty.
Like a soldier, not an career politician.
That is why he was the best president we've ever had, no blueprint to go by the first to try...

That is breathtakingly irrelevant. And stupid.

 

[Rustic]

This guy is starting to sound like he's doing satire,

of himself.

“Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.”

— Dr. Ben Carson, in a Facebook post, Nov. 4, 2015

Carson, a political novice running for the GOP presidential nomination, made this observation in a late-night Facebook post defending his lack of political experience. As he put it:

“You are absolutely right — I have no political experience. The current Members of Congress have a combined 8,700 years of political experience. Are we sure political experience is what we need. Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience. What they had was a deep belief that freedom is a gift from God. They had a determination to rise up against a tyrannical King.”
...

The Facts
Let’s start with Thomas Jefferson, the primary writer of the Declaration of Independence. Years earlier, he had been a student at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg. As luck would have it, the House of Burgesses met there, and so Jefferson as a student was able to witness legislative debates.

The House of Burgesses was the first European-style legislative assembly in the Americas, having first been formed in 1619. And in 1769, seven years before penning the Declaration, Jefferson was elected to the House of Burgesses. As an online biography of the signers said: “It was there that his involvement in revolutionary politics began. He was never a very vocal member, but his writing, his quiet work in committee, and his ability to distill large volumes of information to essence, made him an invaluable member in any deliberative body.”

Now let’s look at the other members of the drafting committee: John Adams (Mass.) was elected to the Massachusetts Assembly in 1770, Benjamin Franklin (Pa.) had been elected to the Pennsylvania Assembly in 1751 and served as speaker in 1764, and Roger Sherman (Conn.) had been elected to the Connecticut General Assembly in 1755. Only Robert R. Livingston (N.Y.) had minimal political experience.

Of the other 51 signers of the Declaration, we count at least 27 as having at least some elected office experience, primarily in Colonial assemblies.


John Hancock, president of the Continental Congress, had been elected to the Boston Assembly and had participated in the Stamp Act Congress, a gathering of elected representatives (from Colonial assemblies) to craft a response to new British tax laws. Some states sent delegations with little political experience, but every member of the seven-person delegation from Virginia had been elected to the Houses of Burgesses."

Please.

Ben Carson’s absurd notion that the Founding Fathers had ‘no elected office experience’

Washington did not want the job, he reluctantly took it seeing it as an duty.
Like a soldier, not an career politician.
That is why he was the best president we've ever had, no blueprint to go by the first to try...

That is breathtakingly irrelevant. And stupid.

Deflection

 

[Vigilante]

Perhaps YOU should READ the thread, to TRY to understand where that came from... or continue to look stupid in the eyes of many of the forum....your call!

I know where it came from...the same place that most of your posts come from...

Yes, the truth...but if you knew this, why act like such an

I see what you did there.

Then, don't embarrass yourself again, and I won't have to point out your inadequacies!

I really think you can't see the irony in your claiming victory every post.
Quick...say something about Trump again!
Better still...post a hilarious meme!

Can you point to me saying ANYTHING about a victory, or even winning in this thread?....Thank you for playing!

 

[Davros]

I know where it came from...the same place that most of your posts come from...

Yes, the truth...but if you knew this, why act like such an

I see what you did there.

Then, don't embarrass yourself again, and I won't have to point out your inadequacies!

I really think you can't see the irony in your claiming victory every post.
Quick...say something about Trump again!
Better still...post a hilarious meme!

Can you point to me saying ANYTHING about a victory, or even winning in this thread?....Thank you for playing!

 

[Vigilante]

Yes, the truth...but if you knew this, why act like such an

I see what you did there.

Then, don't embarrass yourself again, and I won't have to point out your inadequacies!

I really think you can't see the irony in your claiming victory every post.
Quick...say something about Trump again!
Better still...post a hilarious meme!

Can you point to me saying ANYTHING about a victory, or even winning in this thread?....Thank you for playing!

Keep count!

 

[idb]

I know where it came from...the same place that most of your posts come from...

Yes, the truth...but if you knew this, why act like such an

I see what you did there.

Then, don't embarrass yourself again, and I won't have to point out your inadequacies!

I really think you can't see the irony in your claiming victory every post.
Quick...say something about Trump again!
Better still...post a hilarious meme!

Can you point to me saying ANYTHING about a victory, or even winning in this thread?....Thank you for playing!

I'm positive you don't see it.

At least you posted a meme at last.

 

[Nosmo King]

You're right of course. The Republicans never commit gaffes. They are both articulate and infallible. Republicans are not only capable of walking on water, but should never, under any circumstance, be called out for our misunderstanding of their rhetorical brilliance. Rivaled only by, perhaps, Winston Churchill for their collective eloquence, Republicans are too great in intellect to be criticized by the likes of lowly, stupid and wholly ignorant folks like me.

Are you being sarcastic?
It looks like sarcasm.
Are you being sarcastic?

Gee! I don't know! What's this 'sarcasm' you speak of?

Something you tried that you are not good at as your post was mostly factual about you and all far left drones..

As opposed to the far left drones living in denial of the obvious flaws of Dr. Carson?

He's the flavor of the week. In two months time, Ben Carson will be as relevant to the 2016 campaign as Herman Cain was in 2012.

You mean the far left drones that know about Hilary and her lies (which do not come close to Carson) and will still vote for her..

Far left drones point out Carson's gaffes are meaningless as they were never going to vote for him anyway..

That is why your far left religion is so dangerous..

Religion? Now what the hell do you know about my religion? Politics ain't religion unless you're radical about your religion like some Muslims and American fundamentalist "Christians". And neither of those two know much about the faith they say they follow.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Anybody who believes Ben's color will affect Dems into not voting for him defines the character of fool.

Vigi, Ben added "federal" to his fb four hours ago.

So PROVING I was correct, as I recognized what he was saying, and all you WEAK LINKS didn't!

Proving what he said changed. He was wrong before.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Anybody who believes Ben's color will affect Dems into not voting for him defines the character of fool.

Worked for Obama you Fake.........................When are you gonna unmask and be what everyone knows you are already...........hmmm Fakey...............

You lie, and no one among the Democrats care that Ben is black. Only the far right worries about that stuff.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

This guy is starting to sound like he's doing satire,

of himself.

“Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.”

— Dr. Ben Carson, in a Facebook post, Nov. 4, 2015

Carson, a political novice running for the GOP presidential nomination, made this observation in a late-night Facebook post defending his lack of political experience. As he put it:

“You are absolutely right — I have no political experience. The current Members of Congress have a combined 8,700 years of political experience. Are we sure political experience is what we need. Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience. What they had was a deep belief that freedom is a gift from God. They had a determination to rise up against a tyrannical King.”
...

The Facts
Let’s start with Thomas Jefferson, the primary writer of the Declaration of Independence. Years earlier, he had been a student at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg. As luck would have it, the House of Burgesses met there, and so Jefferson as a student was able to witness legislative debates.

The House of Burgesses was the first European-style legislative assembly in the Americas, having first been formed in 1619. And in 1769, seven years before penning the Declaration, Jefferson was elected to the House of Burgesses. As an online biography of the signers said: “It was there that his involvement in revolutionary politics began. He was never a very vocal member, but his writing, his quiet work in committee, and his ability to distill large volumes of information to essence, made him an invaluable member in any deliberative body.”

Now let’s look at the other members of the drafting committee: John Adams (Mass.) was elected to the Massachusetts Assembly in 1770, Benjamin Franklin (Pa.) had been elected to the Pennsylvania Assembly in 1751 and served as speaker in 1764, and Roger Sherman (Conn.) had been elected to the Connecticut General Assembly in 1755. Only Robert R. Livingston (N.Y.) had minimal political experience.

Of the other 51 signers of the Declaration, we count at least 27 as having at least some elected office experience, primarily in Colonial assemblies.


John Hancock, president of the Continental Congress, had been elected to the Boston Assembly and had participated in the Stamp Act Congress, a gathering of elected representatives (from Colonial assemblies) to craft a response to new British tax laws. Some states sent delegations with little political experience, but every member of the seven-person delegation from Virginia had been elected to the Houses of Burgesses."

Please.

Ben Carson’s absurd notion that the Founding Fathers had ‘no elected office experience’

"As luck would have it, the House of Burgesses met there, and so Jefferson as a student was able to witness legislative debates."

Since when does an audited college course result in credit towards your degree? He's actually mostly correct. Being a page doesn't give you 'elected office' experience. Should modern candidates who watch C-SPAN or in my case own and have watched many times "The West Wing" series claim to have experience as a result?

 

[NYcarbineer]

This guy is starting to sound like he's doing satire,

of himself.

“Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.”

— Dr. Ben Carson, in a Facebook post, Nov. 4, 2015

Carson, a political novice running for the GOP presidential nomination, made this observation in a late-night Facebook post defending his lack of political experience. As he put it:

“You are absolutely right — I have no political experience. The current Members of Congress have a combined 8,700 years of political experience. Are we sure political experience is what we need. Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience. What they had was a deep belief that freedom is a gift from God. They had a determination to rise up against a tyrannical King.”
...

The Facts
Let’s start with Thomas Jefferson, the primary writer of the Declaration of Independence. Years earlier, he had been a student at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg. As luck would have it, the House of Burgesses met there, and so Jefferson as a student was able to witness legislative debates.

The House of Burgesses was the first European-style legislative assembly in the Americas, having first been formed in 1619. And in 1769, seven years before penning the Declaration, Jefferson was elected to the House of Burgesses. As an online biography of the signers said: “It was there that his involvement in revolutionary politics began. He was never a very vocal member, but his writing, his quiet work in committee, and his ability to distill large volumes of information to essence, made him an invaluable member in any deliberative body.”

Now let’s look at the other members of the drafting committee: John Adams (Mass.) was elected to the Massachusetts Assembly in 1770, Benjamin Franklin (Pa.) had been elected to the Pennsylvania Assembly in 1751 and served as speaker in 1764, and Roger Sherman (Conn.) had been elected to the Connecticut General Assembly in 1755. Only Robert R. Livingston (N.Y.) had minimal political experience.

Of the other 51 signers of the Declaration, we count at least 27 as having at least some elected office experience, primarily in Colonial assemblies.


John Hancock, president of the Continental Congress, had been elected to the Boston Assembly and had participated in the Stamp Act Congress, a gathering of elected representatives (from Colonial assemblies) to craft a response to new British tax laws. Some states sent delegations with little political experience, but every member of the seven-person delegation from Virginia had been elected to the Houses of Burgesses."

Please.

Ben Carson’s absurd notion that the Founding Fathers had ‘no elected office experience’

"As luck would have it, the House of Burgesses met there, and so Jefferson as a student was able to witness legislative debates."

Since when does an audited college course result in credit towards your degree? He's actually mostly correct. Being a page doesn't give you 'elected office' experience. Should modern candidates who watch C-SPAN or in my case own and have watched many times "The West Wing" series claim to have experience as a result?

Jefferson was an elected delegate to the House of Burgesses for 6 years.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

This guy is starting to sound like he's doing satire,

of himself.

“Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.”

— Dr. Ben Carson, in a Facebook post, Nov. 4, 2015

Carson, a political novice running for the GOP presidential nomination, made this observation in a late-night Facebook post defending his lack of political experience. As he put it:

“You are absolutely right — I have no political experience. The current Members of Congress have a combined 8,700 years of political experience. Are we sure political experience is what we need. Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience. What they had was a deep belief that freedom is a gift from God. They had a determination to rise up against a tyrannical King.”
...

The Facts
Let’s start with Thomas Jefferson, the primary writer of the Declaration of Independence. Years earlier, he had been a student at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg. As luck would have it, the House of Burgesses met there, and so Jefferson as a student was able to witness legislative debates.

The House of Burgesses was the first European-style legislative assembly in the Americas, having first been formed in 1619. And in 1769, seven years before penning the Declaration, Jefferson was elected to the House of Burgesses. As an online biography of the signers said: “It was there that his involvement in revolutionary politics began. He was never a very vocal member, but his writing, his quiet work in committee, and his ability to distill large volumes of information to essence, made him an invaluable member in any deliberative body.”

Now let’s look at the other members of the drafting committee: John Adams (Mass.) was elected to the Massachusetts Assembly in 1770, Benjamin Franklin (Pa.) had been elected to the Pennsylvania Assembly in 1751 and served as speaker in 1764, and Roger Sherman (Conn.) had been elected to the Connecticut General Assembly in 1755. Only Robert R. Livingston (N.Y.) had minimal political experience.

Of the other 51 signers of the Declaration, we count at least 27 as having at least some elected office experience, primarily in Colonial assemblies.


John Hancock, president of the Continental Congress, had been elected to the Boston Assembly and had participated in the Stamp Act Congress, a gathering of elected representatives (from Colonial assemblies) to craft a response to new British tax laws. Some states sent delegations with little political experience, but every member of the seven-person delegation from Virginia had been elected to the Houses of Burgesses."

Please.

Ben Carson’s absurd notion that the Founding Fathers had ‘no elected office experience’

"As luck would have it, the House of Burgesses met there, and so Jefferson as a student was able to witness legislative debates."

Since when does an audited college course result in credit towards your degree? He's actually mostly correct. Being a page doesn't give you 'elected office' experience. Should modern candidates who watch C-SPAN or in my case own and have watched many times "The West Wing" series claim to have experience as a result?

Jefferson was an elected delegate to the House of Burgesses for 6 years.

Translation, he was a foreign government official who shoulda been disqualified from holding US office.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This guy is starting to sound like he's doing satire,

of himself.

“Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.”

— Dr. Ben Carson, in a Facebook post, Nov. 4, 2015

Carson, a political novice running for the GOP presidential nomination, made this observation in a late-night Facebook post defending his lack of political experience. As he put it:

“You are absolutely right — I have no political experience. The current Members of Congress have a combined 8,700 years of political experience. Are we sure political experience is what we need. Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience. What they had was a deep belief that freedom is a gift from God. They had a determination to rise up against a tyrannical King.”
...

The Facts
Let’s start with Thomas Jefferson, the primary writer of the Declaration of Independence. Years earlier, he had been a student at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg. As luck would have it, the House of Burgesses met there, and so Jefferson as a student was able to witness legislative debates.

The House of Burgesses was the first European-style legislative assembly in the Americas, having first been formed in 1619. And in 1769, seven years before penning the Declaration, Jefferson was elected to the House of Burgesses. As an online biography of the signers said: “It was there that his involvement in revolutionary politics began. He was never a very vocal member, but his writing, his quiet work in committee, and his ability to distill large volumes of information to essence, made him an invaluable member in any deliberative body.”

Now let’s look at the other members of the drafting committee: John Adams (Mass.) was elected to the Massachusetts Assembly in 1770, Benjamin Franklin (Pa.) had been elected to the Pennsylvania Assembly in 1751 and served as speaker in 1764, and Roger Sherman (Conn.) had been elected to the Connecticut General Assembly in 1755. Only Robert R. Livingston (N.Y.) had minimal political experience.

Of the other 51 signers of the Declaration, we count at least 27 as having at least some elected office experience, primarily in Colonial assemblies.


John Hancock, president of the Continental Congress, had been elected to the Boston Assembly and had participated in the Stamp Act Congress, a gathering of elected representatives (from Colonial assemblies) to craft a response to new British tax laws. Some states sent delegations with little political experience, but every member of the seven-person delegation from Virginia had been elected to the Houses of Burgesses."

Please.

Ben Carson’s absurd notion that the Founding Fathers had ‘no elected office experience’

"As luck would have it, the House of Burgesses met there, and so Jefferson as a student was able to witness legislative debates."

Since when does an audited college course result in credit towards your degree? He's actually mostly correct. Being a page doesn't give you 'elected office' experience. Should modern candidates who watch C-SPAN or in my case own and have watched many times "The West Wing" series claim to have experience as a result?

Jefferson was an elected delegate to the House of Burgesses for 6 years.

Translation, he was a foreign government official who shoulda been disqualified from holding US office.

You're losing it. Take a breather.

 

[amrchaos]

Hey rightwingers

Your Best choices are Kasich(!!), Rubio(!?), Christie(!?) and maybe Fiorina

The rest of those guys lack either sufficient understanding of government, got way too much baggage, slimy as a Clinton orgy, or no name recognition whatsoever--with some sprouting cuckoo nonsense every week.

1st Trump, now Ben Carson? There is a trend here. Who is the most disturbing candidate I can find? Given Santorum and Huckabee already led in previous elections, that leaves Ted Cruz. Hell, I prefer Trump.

Yes, take a CONFIRMED SUBVERSIVES LOSERS advice and you better vote for the MOST LEFT LEANING of the bunch!.... The hilarity is starting now!

You take your political advice on who to vote all the time. Yet, you ignore your record of selecting false conservative and phony leaders!!

 

[amrchaos]

Yes, I see just how popular YOUR OPINIONS are by your PATHETIC RATINGS and you're here almost FIVE YEARS longer than I and enjoyed playing REP FROG that padded your ratings when we changed over to this new system.... You're not even LIGHT WEIGHT,

Vigilant is as ghey as they come.

The Confederation Congress under the articles of Confederation was the federal legislative body that preceded the House/Senate of the Constitution.

Thank you. Now do you understand that NONE of these men ever held elected (FEDERAL, NOT NEEDED as a modifier to anyone with brains) office!

lol. Keep digging. The members of the Confederation Congress were elected.

Was there a Federal government ELECTED at that time.... Were we even a declared country.... sorry to fuck you up again with history!

Was there a Federal government ELECTED at that time.... Were we even a declared country.... sorry to fuck you up again with history!

Let's examine what he said again...

Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.

Nope...nothing to do with government at all.

Yes, you are ANOTHER that believes Trump meant ALL MEXICAN'S.... you leftists are so pathetic, as I've explained this a few times within this thread....But making yourself look stupid, is a noble calling for a DemocRAT!

No--we believe he meant all undocumented immigrants.

No--what Trump said in his announcement speech is not true of all undocumented immigrants.

Don't tell me you are still trying to defend that one? We are like 20 crazy statements down the road with Trump, and you are still defending that one?

Tell the truth, you recognized Trump is a seriously flawed candidate, but your 'conservative pride' got you defending him.......

 

[Misty]

So he made a typo. He fixed it.

"(Update: After this fact check appeared, Carson’s Facebook post was edited to read “no federal elected office experience.” There was, of course, no “federal” government at the time.)"

 

[JakeStarkey]

So he made a typo. He fixed it.

"(Update: After this fact check appeared, Carson’s Facebook post was edited to read “no federal elected office experience.” There was, of course, no “federal” government at the time.)"

He is still wrong. Elective experience can validate a candidate's ability and quality for the next step.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Ben Carson’s absurd notion that the Founding Fathers had ‘no elected office experience’"

Carson's ignorance is as comprehensive as it is troubling.