Bernie, AOC: Please STFU

[francoHFW]

Thats good news for Trump.

That depends who he's running against and how many people show up to vote.
All I'm saying is that 20% will vote (R) no matter what, 20 % will vote (D) no matter what.
That leaves roughly 10 to 30 million potential swing votes in 2020....probably more.

82% of independants liked Trumps message during the SOTU address.
Since there's not a DEM out there that will even come close to Trumps agenda I like his chances in 2020.

Like how many people in those "actual polls" even know how to spell independent, much less understand what it means ?
All they know is what the MSM feeds them - how do you explain that there are just as many conservatives calling themselves 'Independent' as there are progressives doing it , when Sanders is the only (I) in Congress ?

Ask NBC it was their poll.

What a stupid statement.
How were the people fed info when they were responding to a live speech?
As far as your comment about the percentage of people calling themselves independents?
What does that matter? He still has 82% support.

That was one of Trump's written speeches that was all about unity. His CPAC speech would get the usual 35% brainwashed or bought off vote.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Thats good news for Trump.

That depends who he's running against and how many people show up to vote.
All I'm saying is that 20% will vote (R) no matter what, 20 % will vote (D) no matter what.
That leaves roughly 10 to 30 million potential swing votes in 2020....probably more.

82% of independants liked Trumps message during the SOTU address.
Since there's not a DEM out there that will even come close to Trumps agenda I like his chances in 2020.

Like how many people in those "actual polls" even know how to spell independent, much less understand what it means ?
All they know is what the MSM feeds them - how do you explain that there are just as many conservatives calling themselves 'Independent' as there are progressives doing it , when Sanders is the only (I) in Congress ?

Ask NBC it was their poll.

What a stupid statement.
How were the people fed info when they were responding to a live speech?
As far as your comment about the percentage of people calling themselves independents?
What does that matter? He still has 82% support.

That was one of Trump's written speeches that was all about unity. His CPAC speech would get the usual 35% brainwashed or bought off vote.

Butt Hurt on display....

 

[Uncensored2008]

He has no idea who he means, he is clueless about history, he just pulls names out his butt without a clue.

You have any proof for this defamation of my character? One boo-boo on a first name sets you off to make such a claim.

Just an observation from reading your posts through the years. You have earned it, congratulations!

Nice dodge, proof to me you are too full of yourself, and not prepared to defend an allegation.

I’ll stand by my statement based on your history, I don’t give a damn whether you approve it or not.

Well now, you must know my history very well, post some examples to prove not me, but the readers who might wonder if you are a damn liar and a blowhard.

I suspect you are that, and more.

Dude, you have posted 50,000 messages - people KNOW what you stand for.

You are a hard left, police state totalitarian.

 

[francoHFW]

That depends who he's running against and how many people show up to vote.
All I'm saying is that 20% will vote (R) no matter what, 20 % will vote (D) no matter what.
That leaves roughly 10 to 30 million potential swing votes in 2020....probably more.

82% of independants liked Trumps message during the SOTU address.
Since there's not a DEM out there that will even come close to Trumps agenda I like his chances in 2020.

Like how many people in those "actual polls" even know how to spell independent, much less understand what it means ?
All they know is what the MSM feeds them - how do you explain that there are just as many conservatives calling themselves 'Independent' as there are progressives doing it , when Sanders is the only (I) in Congress ?

Ask NBC it was their poll.

What a stupid statement.
How were the people fed info when they were responding to a live speech?
As far as your comment about the percentage of people calling themselves independents?
What does that matter? He still has 82% support.

That was one of Trump's written speeches that was all about unity. His CPAC speech would get the usual 35% brainwashed or bought off vote.

Butt Hurt on display....

Any argument, dingbat?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

82% of independants liked Trumps message during the SOTU address.
Since there's not a DEM out there that will even come close to Trumps agenda I like his chances in 2020.

Like how many people in those "actual polls" even know how to spell independent, much less understand what it means ?
All they know is what the MSM feeds them - how do you explain that there are just as many conservatives calling themselves 'Independent' as there are progressives doing it , when Sanders is the only (I) in Congress ?

Ask NBC it was their poll.

What a stupid statement.
How were the people fed info when they were responding to a live speech?
As far as your comment about the percentage of people calling themselves independents?
What does that matter? He still has 82% support.

That was one of Trump's written speeches that was all about unity. His CPAC speech would get the usual 35% brainwashed or bought off vote.

Butt Hurt on display....

Any argument, dingbat?

Any links?

 

[francoHFW]

You have any proof for this defamation of my character? One boo-boo on a first name sets you off to make such a claim.

Just an observation from reading your posts through the years. You have earned it, congratulations!

Nice dodge, proof to me you are too full of yourself, and not prepared to defend an allegation.

I’ll stand by my statement based on your history, I don’t give a damn whether you approve it or not.

Well now, you must know my history very well, post some examples to prove not me, but the readers who might wonder if you are a damn liar and a blowhard.

I suspect you are that, and more.

Dude, you have posted 50,000 messages - people KNOW what you stand for.

You are a hard left, police state totalitarian.

you people are technically insane and live on an imaginary planet of garbage propaganda. Your views are only respected in GOP dupe world.

 

[Papageorgio]

He has no idea who he means, he is clueless about history, he just pulls names out his butt without a clue.

You have any proof for this defamation of my character? One boo-boo on a first name sets you off to make such a claim.

Just an observation from reading your posts through the years. You have earned it, congratulations!

Nice dodge, proof to me you are too full of yourself, and not prepared to defend an allegation.

I’ll stand by my statement based on your history, I don’t give a damn whether you approve it or not.

Well now, you must know my history very well, post some examples to prove not me, but the readers who might wonder if you are a damn liar and a blowhard.

I suspect you are that, and more.

Nope, it is my opinion, and that is that, you are who you are. Not compelled or care to research your BS, however anyone can look up your posts and see that I’m right.

Back to the topic, I like Cortez, I hope she keeps speaking and exposing the hypocrisy of the Democrats, she is a breath of fresh air. I hope the Republicans can find the same type of candidate, they keep the establishment on their toes.

 

[Papageorgio]

Just an observation from reading your posts through the years. You have earned it, congratulations!

Nice dodge, proof to me you are too full of yourself, and not prepared to defend an allegation.

I’ll stand by my statement based on your history, I don’t give a damn whether you approve it or not.

Well now, you must know my history very well, post some examples to prove not me, but the readers who might wonder if you are a damn liar and a blowhard.

I suspect you are that, and more.

Dude, you have posted 50,000 messages - people KNOW what you stand for.

You are a hard left, police state totalitarian.

you people are technically insane and live on an imaginary planet of garbage propaganda. Your views are only respected in GOP dupe world.

Let’s hope Cortez has a long career in the House and keeps the Democratic Party in line.

 

[Olde Europe]

All you are doing is feeding the neo fascist, crazy right wing. Your ideas and statements have created hundreds of Eugene McCarthys, some in the Senate, some in the H. or Rep. and hundreds on social media all with the same theme: The RED SCARE

No way, no how should Bernie or AOC shut up. Rather, they should proudly stand for what they are convinced is in the citizenry's best interest. They do not have the power to create a single McCarthy where there was none before, and even if they had, let's find out how many would, in this day and age, fall for that hysterical pap. There may well be way fewer of these critters than you fear.

 

[litman]

Do both sides understand how stupid this post is. It is very apparent that our brain-dead righties do not even understand the difference between socialistic programs and a socialistic government. But you are incapable of understanding that preferring to live your life in fear that something is out to get you. This dividing the country is wrong wrong wrong and any one who helps divide our country is not acting patriotic. What we need is for both parties to quit blowing bullshit out their mouths and try and do something good for this country. Neither party seems to be able to understand just what our forefathers set up. Look at the stupidity of the republicans claim that we cannot believe Cohen because he is a liar. Well so is trump so why do you believe him. One difference is that Cohen had documentation for his testimony while trump has only his mouth that we know lies far more than he tells the truth. Yes the dems are being stupid also but I don't think to the same degree.
The right laugh about the new green deal but offer nothing to prevent global warming. And sorry but I believe scientists over politicians. What those on the right fail to take into account in this is that we now have what 5 billion people on this earth. That we have build heat retaining roads all across the world. About cows farting, Because we have so many more people on this world also farting but now we have millions more cows out there farting methane gases. You laugh but in high school I worked on a dairy farm. It was small about 50 cows but I can tell you that yes cows let out a lot of methane gas. Now does this mean e should quit eating beef, no but we do need to figure out how to trap a lot of the gas and use it to provide electricity. On TV they had one farmer that used his cow shit to make methane gas to power a small city. He makes money and the people gain cheaper electricity. What the republicans want is for our corporations to have complete control over us.

 

[boedicca]

Fascism is always descending on the United States, and landing firmly in the ranks of the Democrats.

Wow, what a post, filled with probative evidence which are presented clearly and in so few words. Remarkable.





SARCASM ALERT

I see that you are stung by a bit of truth.

Good. Perhaps there is hope for you yet, but I'll not wager on it.

If you believe that fascism is Democratic, you are a brainwashed functional moron.fascism has always been right wing and it always will be, no matter what your high school grad x Coke head bought off pundits say, idiot.

Wrong again, swampy.

I believe that many of the Democrats have given up on any pretenses of Democracy and Classical liberalism. Socialist-Communist-Fascist Authoritarianism increasingly dominate their values, policies, strategies and tactics. Calling them Democrats is quite Orwellian at this point.

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

Yes we know you are a brainwashed functional moron. You have no evidence for any of that. You know every phony Scandal about Hillary Obama the FBI the CIA etc etc, none of which have reached the real world of Journalism and law enforcement. Idiot. Change the channel and get some real news. In the whole world only Rupert Murdoch outlets agree with you. all investigated and nothing found but garbage GOP propaganda in every single case. Duh.

^^^ Diagnosis: Terminal Projection ^^^

 

[depotoo]

Windmills are not wind turbines.
Yeah, pure bullsh#t. No.
Researchers study impact of turbines on golden eagles
Will Wind Turbines Ever Be Safe For Birds?
Think the Audubon Society knows what it is talking about
Wind turbines killing more than just local birds
Purdue University

The Green New Deal is hyperbole. There is no denying the fact green and renewable energy is the future. It is that, or nuclear power plants.

Do we want China to be the leader in the future? it sure looks as if the current administration and its followers are happy with the status quo, as other nation's look to the future.

Solyndra....and it wasn't even one of the worst solar debacles in Barry's portfolio.....your windmills kill thousands of owls, hawks, and eagles a year....does PETA make a peep? of course not.

That's funny we have 400 400 foot high windmills within 30 miles and no birds get killed that I know of. All that crap you know is b******* propaganda....

 

[P F Tinmore]

All you are doing is feeding the neo fascist, crazy right wing. .

I understand your point in a way. Hey- maybe AOC is really a GOP-installed fake progressive like Bill Maher only more socialist. Anything to break up the competition by sabotaging the Democratic party from within.

Of course if the DNC hadn't rigged the primaries against Bernie in the first place he'd have crushed Trump in the general election and we wouldn't be talking about it anymore.

Excellent post, thanks.

 

[P F Tinmore]

She is a force to be reckoned with.

No she is not.. She is an idiot and socialist fascist. She has been exposed as have all democrats... Your having a case of wishful thinking..

 

[Synthaholic]

All you are doing is feeding the neo fascist, crazy right wing. Your ideas and statements have created hundreds of Eugene McCarthys, some in the Senate, some in the H. or Rep. and hundreds on social media all with the same theme: The RED SCARE

Giving them fodder to continue the hate and fear rhetoric from sea to sea and North to South, is not the way to take back our countries traditional values, to wit:

Equal Rights and equal opportunities for all citizens, universal suffrage and CIVIL Rights for all should be the message.

Concentrate on what needs to be fixed and what can be fixed. In a word, be pragmatic in terms of Health care, taxes, gun control, suffrage, immigration, green and renewable energy and other issues ignored or exploited by Trump and a do nothing Congress in control of McConnell and Ryan.

We need to take over the Senate in 2020, do not screw it up, and face four more years of Trumpism, aka, autocratic rule and the GOP Policy: We got ours, fuck the rest of you.


Edited to remove red text. Saved for Modding. Wry Catcher

I usually agree with you but not on this. The more AOC talks the more unhinged the wingnuts get. The more unhinged they get the further away they get from real Americans, who see GOP panicky rhetoric plainly for what it is and reject it completely.

Here’s proof that AOC gets the rightwing unhinged.

The gist of the story? AOC rides in cars.

Normal Americans obviously realize this once they read the story, and then conclude, correctly, that Republicans are unhinged and willing to lie and distort to attack her. Then they ask themselves “why are they doing that?”

The answer becomes clear: they have no defense for their own actions, and no counter-policy to AOC that Americans want to get behind.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

All you are doing is feeding the neo fascist, crazy right wing. Your ideas and statements have created hundreds of Eugene McCarthys, some in the Senate, some in the H. or Rep. and hundreds on social media all with the same theme: The RED SCARE

Giving them fodder to continue the hate and fear rhetoric from sea to sea and North to South, is not the way to take back our countries traditional values, to wit:

Equal Rights and equal opportunities for all citizens, universal suffrage and CIVIL Rights for all should be the message.

Concentrate on what needs to be fixed and what can be fixed. In a word, be pragmatic in terms of Health care, taxes, gun control, suffrage, immigration, green and renewable energy and other issues ignored or exploited by Trump and a do nothing Congress in control of McConnell and Ryan.

We need to take over the Senate in 2020, do not screw it up, and face four more years of Trumpism, aka, autocratic rule and the GOP Policy: We got ours, fuck the rest of you.


Edited to remove red text. Saved for Modding. Wry Catcher

The Democrat Party is now the Democratic Socialists Party, so own it.

Wrong. The Democratic Party puts people first, not corporations and the special interests; Democrats are the the strongest defense in protecting the people from fascism and plutocracy - a toxic combination to our democratic republic.

You need to look at your political party and realize your political party has never put the people first unless it lines it pockets.

Again, your political party is being taken over by Democratic Socialists like Cortez and Sanders and you will deny it but reality has never been your friend!

I am still awaiting for my arrest by you...

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

The nutters and psychos are in control of the parties.

So, the wild swings back and forth will continue. Wave elections, back and forth.

Big waves destroy things over time.
.

I disagree. Pelosi and McConnell are not nutters or psychos. Speaker Pelosi is a pragmatist; McConnell is a master of machination, all legal, and all partisan and self serving.

A couple of freshman speaking out, which may marry with Speaker Pelosi' thinking, but as leader she knows changes require a bi-partisan vote.

These freshman lack the seasoning to mellow their rhetoric and work step by step to bring progressives ideas into the mainstream - going too fast isn't going to bring change, it will slow it down, possibly to a stop.

I'm not talking about party leadership. I'm talking about the fact that the energy in both parties is with their nutters.

The loudest part of the base, in both cases.

Naturally, those nutters won't recognize that fact from their nutter perspective.
.

Going off what you wrote the reality is many know the fringe elements now control both sides of the political spectrum.

At one time those elements ran on the Green, Libertatian or one of the third political parties or just independent while never consider a serious threat but now they have infiltrated both major political parties from those like Trump to those like Cortez and Sanders.

On the right you have the MAGA crowd that believe America was no longer great and you ended up with some charlatan like Trump becoming President and on the left you have those that want free stuff paid by the taxpayers of this society and that is how we have Cortez and Sanders.

George H.W. Bush was the last decent President and Bill Clinton was the last one that was willing to work with those that wanted him gone.

If Trump loses to someone like Sanders or those like him then America will keep on down the road of Destruction.

America need a moderate in 2020 and the op'er and many like them will proclaim the Democrat candidate will be moderate even if they scream for more governments control and less freedom...

 

[Ambivalent1]

All you are doing is feeding the neo fascist, crazy right wing. Your ideas and statements have created hundreds of Eugene McCarthys, some in the Senate, some in the H. or Rep. and hundreds on social media all with the same theme: The RED SCARE

Giving them fodder to continue the hate and fear rhetoric from sea to sea and North to South, is not the way to take back our countries traditional values, to wit:

Equal Rights and equal opportunities for all citizens, universal suffrage and CIVIL Rights for all should be the message.

Concentrate on what needs to be fixed and what can be fixed. In a word, be pragmatic in terms of Health care, taxes, gun control, suffrage, immigration, green and renewable energy and other issues ignored or exploited by Trump and a do nothing Congress in control of McConnell and Ryan.

We need to take over the Senate in 2020, do not screw it up, and face four more years of Trumpism, aka, autocratic rule and the GOP Policy: We got ours, fuck the rest of you.


Edited to remove red text. Saved for Modding. Wry Catcher

I usually agree with you but not on this. The more AOC talks the more unhinged the wingnuts get. The more unhinged they get the further away they get from real Americans, who see GOP panicky rhetoric plainly for what it is and reject it completely.

I hope you are correct. The fact is yelling "Socialism" was an effective strategy and led to the Congress being in the majority in the Congress at the worst time: When redistricting allowed the GOP to gerrymander and keep control of the H. or Rep. until Nov 2018.

LOL, you mean like you idiots who scream racism, Nazi's, hitler and every other stupid thing.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

All you are doing is feeding the neo fascist, crazy right wing. Your ideas and statements have created hundreds of Eugene McCarthys, some in the Senate, some in the H. or Rep. and hundreds on social media all with the same theme: The RED SCARE

Giving them fodder to continue the hate and fear rhetoric from sea to sea and North to South, is not the way to take back our countries traditional values, to wit:

Equal Rights and equal opportunities for all citizens, universal suffrage and CIVIL Rights for all should be the message.

Concentrate on what needs to be fixed and what can be fixed. In a word, be pragmatic in terms of Health care, taxes, gun control, suffrage, immigration, green and renewable energy and other issues ignored or exploited by Trump and a do nothing Congress in control of McConnell and Ryan.

We need to take over the Senate in 2020, do not screw it up, and face four more years of Trumpism, aka, autocratic rule and the GOP Policy: We got ours, fuck the rest of you.


Edited to remove red text. Saved for Modding. Wry Catcher

The failure of the Democrat Party is what has given them voice.

You can't muzzle them. You have no choice now but to entertain them. Get used to it.

The youth are getting restless.

What are the youth getting restless for? And why?

They are uncertain about the future. For obvious reasons.

Buy why are they uncertain? I was uncertain and did something about it. What obvious reasons?

You're special.

The truth of the matter is that Bernie and AOC are popular with the youth. I imagine that each one has a unique life experience that makes them gravitate to the rhetoric.

Nope, Im just seeing an indoctrinated generation wanting everything for free and doing nothing for it. Thats all.

 

[Ambivalent1]

All you are doing is feeding the neo fascist, crazy right wing. Your ideas and statements have created hundreds of Eugene McCarthys, some in the Senate, some in the H. or Rep. and hundreds on social media all with the same theme: The RED SCARE

Giving them fodder to continue the hate and fear rhetoric from sea to sea and North to South, is not the way to take back our countries traditional values, to wit:

Equal Rights and equal opportunities for all citizens, universal suffrage and CIVIL Rights for all should be the message.

Concentrate on what needs to be fixed and what can be fixed. In a word, be pragmatic in terms of Health care, taxes, gun control, suffrage, immigration, green and renewable energy and other issues ignored or exploited by Trump and a do nothing Congress in control of McConnell and Ryan.

We need to take over the Senate in 2020, do not screw it up, and face four more years of Trumpism, aka, autocratic rule and the GOP Policy: We got ours, fuck the rest of you.


Edited to remove red text. Saved for Modding. Wry Catcher

I usually agree with you but not on this. The more AOC talks the more unhinged the wingnuts get. The more unhinged they get the further away they get from real Americans, who see GOP panicky rhetoric plainly for what it is and reject it completely.

Here’s proof that AOC gets the rightwing unhinged.

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The gist of the story? AOC rides in cars.

Normal Americans obviously realize this once they read the story, and then conclude, correctly, that Republicans are unhinged and willing to lie and distort to attack her. Then they ask themselves “why are they doing that?”

The answer becomes clear: they have no defense for their own actions, and no counter-policy to AOC that Americans want to get behind.

You being the hypocrite you are means you have no trouble with abject hypocrisy of this mental midget.