Bernie Sanders (I): "Break 'em up"

As long as the government backs up deposits in the banks, those banks ought to be regulated to prevent them taking the kinds of risks they took.

Banks that want to play the high risk games ought not to be so backed up by FDIC.

I don't think the deposit insurance system has much to do with it. It never covered the large "hot money" deposits. What REALLY was the bailout was the use of the FDIC to guarantee bank holding company debt and other measures forced on the FDIC by Treasury and the Fed in 2008--2010. The trillions of these bailout guarantees were at least four times the amount of insured deposits in the country's banking system. Anybody read Shiela Bair's book?
 
I don't think the deposit insurance system has much to do with it.

i think it was key. FDIC meant no one had to care where they deposited their money. Risky banks like Golden West and Indy Mac then raised tons of money with high CD rates to gamble in the exploding housing market.
 
Break'em up...the banks that is. This has gone on long enough these mega-for-profit corps raping the taxpayer when ever their ponzi schemes fail

New Sanders Bill Would Break Up Big Banks | Common Dreams
Betcha a dollar to a dog turd that old socialist crank Bernie [Sanders] isn't in favor of breaking up the biggest banks of them all: The Federal Reserve, IMF, World Bank and Bank for International Settlements.
You would lose that bet.

Exactly.

Sanders is about as close at it gets to rational "for the people" in the US senate. Further, if my memory is accurate, Sanders isn't far from the Pauls in wanting to audit the FED quarterly and publish the results.
 
You realize almost all of those people are on the left, right?

So your point is that the most prominent economists are on the left? I would agree there; but it is somewhat disconcerting to hear you classify Volker, Greenspan, and a big chunk of the Federal Reserve as leftists.

No, that wasn't my point. No surprise you can't read a simple post and derive logical inferences.
 
Sanders is about as close at it gets to rational "for the people" in the US senate.

actually Sanders is an open socialist. Socialism slowly starved 60 million to death in China; then they switched to capitalism and now as many are buying cars.

What does that tell you about his rationality??
 
Sanders is about as close at it gets to rational "for the people" in the US senate.

actually Sanders is an open socialist. Socialism slowly starved 60 million to death in China; then they switched to capitalism and now as many are buying cars.

What does that tell you about his rationality??

That unlike you and your legions of nutball lemmings, Sanders is aware of his surroundings?
 
Sanders is about as close at it gets to rational "for the people" in the US senate.

actually Sanders is an open socialist. Socialism slowly starved 60 million to death in China; then they switched to capitalism and now as many are buying cars.

What does that tell you about his rationality??

That unlike you and your legions of nutball lemmings, Sanders is aware of his surroundings?

So you're saying Sanders wants to establish gulags and send us there and starve about 10M Americans? He's crazy. But not as crazy as you are.
 
Sanders is about as close at it gets to rational "for the people" in the US senate.

actually Sanders is an open socialist. Socialism slowly starved 60 million to death in China; then they switched to capitalism and now as many are buying cars.

What does that tell you about his rationality??

That unlike you and your legions of nutball lemmings, Sanders is aware of his surroundings?

you mean socialism did not very very slowly starve 120 million to death in Russia and China. Do you feel Hitler and Pol Pot were great men too????
 
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You and rabbi provide interesting alt theories, Edmund, but my belief is Sanders understands that the extremes of Cambodia, Russia and China can probably be avoided here.

(((pssst: did anyone ever mention to you in the, er, "rest" place, that mentioning Hitler first in a discussion vaporizes credibility faster than praising Junebug?)))
 
actually Sanders is an open socialist. Socialism slowly starved 60 million to death in China; then they switched to capitalism and now as many are buying cars.

What does that tell you about his rationality??

That unlike you and your legions of nutball lemmings, Sanders is aware of his surroundings?

So you're saying Sanders wants to establish gulags and send us there and starve about 10M Americans? He's crazy. But not as crazy as you are.

Too Stupid!! Stalin and Mao did not say they wanted to starve 120 million very slowly!!! As their liberal programs failed more and more the measures they took became more and more violent and deadly. Socialism would perhaps not get that far in this country because Republicans would in theory always be their holding them back.
Catching on now??

Norman Thomas quotes:
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.
 
That unlike you and your legions of nutball lemmings, Sanders is aware of his surroundings?

So you're saying Sanders wants to establish gulags and send us there and starve about 10M Americans? He's crazy. But not as crazy as you are.

Too Stupid!! Stalin and Mao did not say they wanted to starve 120 million very slowly!!! As their liberal programs failed more and more the measures they took became more and more violent and deadly. Socialism would perhaps not get that far in this country because Republicans would in theory always be their holding them back.
Catching on now??

Norman Thomas quotes:
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

link Eddie? you do know how to provide those right?
 
So you're saying Sanders wants to establish gulags and send us there and starve about 10M Americans? He's crazy. But not as crazy as you are.

Too Stupid!! Stalin and Mao did not say they wanted to starve 120 million very slowly!!! As their liberal programs failed more and more the measures they took became more and more violent and deadly. Socialism would perhaps not get that far in this country because Republicans would in theory always be their holding them back.
Catching on now??

Norman Thomas quotes:
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

link Eddie? you do know how to provide those right?

why not look up whatever you find yourself so curious about????????????
 
You and rabbi provide interesting alt theories, Edmund, but my belief is Sanders understands that the extremes of Cambodia, Russia and China can probably be avoided here.

yes because of our Republican Founders the extremes of liberal violence can probably be avoided here but the journey into more and more poverty is very painful nonetheless. Don't forget, our founders gave us freedom from all liberal central government because they did not see a meaningful distinction between Caesar, Hitler, Stalin Mao George 111, Pol Pot, or Castro.


(((pssst: did anyone ever mention to you in the, er, "rest" place, that mentioning Hitler first in a discussion vaporizes credibility faster than praising Junebug?)))

Read "Liberal Fascism" and see how the liberals adored HItler and Stalin in the beginning. Why do you think our liberals spied for Stalin and gave him the bomb?? Yes I get that liberals want to avoid the comparisons to Hitler and Stalin even as they promote their liberal agendas all over again.
 
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You realize almost all of those people are on the left, right?

So your point is that the most prominent economists are on the left? I would agree there; but it is somewhat disconcerting to hear you classify Volker, Greenspan, and a big chunk of the Federal Reserve as leftists.

they are mostly leftists it seems. Bernanke seems to have no concern at all for letting the free market take over. He's still pumping 80 billion a month into the currency supply to manipulate rates. This is very socialist at best.

What you don't realize is the the bankers are all for socialism! In socialism, the government owns the means of production, and the banks own the government. More power and profits for the banisters.

Yet another reason you should hate banks.
 
So your point is that the most prominent economists are on the left? I would agree there; but it is somewhat disconcerting to hear you classify Volker, Greenspan, and a big chunk of the Federal Reserve as leftists.

they are mostly leftists it seems. Bernanke seems to have no concern at all for letting the free market take over. He's still pumping 80 billion a month into the currency supply to manipulate rates. This is very socialist at best.

What you don't realize is the the bankers are all for socialism! .

Except folks like John Allison, president of BB&T( 6 th largest) who just wrote a pro capitalist book on banking explaining step by step how all the liberal regulations caused the current recession. And most of the others who hate their regulators. And most of the others who would rather take their chances in the free market than in crony socialist Washington.

THere is no reason to hate bankers more than bread makers.
 
...the banks that is. This has gone on long enough these mega-for-profit corps raping the taxpayer when ever their ponzi schemes fail

New Sanders Bill Would Break Up Big Banks | Common Dreams
Betcha a dollar to a dog turd that old socialist crank Bernie isn't in favor of breaking up the biggest banks of them all: The Federal Reserve, IMF, World Bank and Bank for International Settlements.
You would lose that bet.
Bernie is a tool of the Fed and the rest of the international banksters, you ignorant putz.

The best thing that could happen to America is a Bernie Sanders presidency! It would be analogous to a cure for cancer.
Brown acid...Don't take any more.
 
Too Stupid!! Stalin and Mao did not say they wanted to starve 120 million very slowly!!! As their liberal programs failed more and more the measures they took became more and more violent and deadly. Socialism would perhaps not get that far in this country because Republicans would in theory always be their holding them back.
Catching on now??

Norman Thomas quotes:
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

link Eddie? you do know how to provide those right?

why not look up whatever you find yourself so curious about????????????

ummm..... because thats not how message boards work. :eusa_eh: You make an assertion and the onus is on you to provide a link. Whats your IQ again?
 
they are mostly leftists it seems. Bernanke seems to have no concern at all for letting the free market take over. He's still pumping 80 billion a month into the currency supply to manipulate rates. This is very socialist at best.

What you don't realize is the the bankers are all for socialism! .

Except folks like John Allison, president of BB&T( 6 th largest) who just wrote a pro capitalist book on banking explaining step by step how all the liberal regulations caused the current recession. And most of the others who hate their regulators. And most of the others who would rather take their chances in the free market than in crony socialist Washington.

THere is no reason to hate bankers more than bread makers.

You're silly. The bankers own the regulators. They want to put the onus on "the regulators" for doing exactly what they asked them to do so the bankers don't get the blame. That one banker writes a book complaining about the regulators is expected misdirection propaganda.
 
...the banks that is. This has gone on long enough these mega-for-profit corps raping the taxpayer when ever their ponzi schemes fail

New Sanders Bill Would Break Up Big Banks | Common Dreams
New Sanders Bill Would Break Up Big Banks
'If an institution is too big to fail, it is too big to exist'
Betcha a dollar to a dog turd that old socialist crank Bernie isn't in favor of breaking up the biggest banks of them all: The Federal Reserve, IMF, World Bank and Bank for International Settlements.


And YOU would be completely wrong.

Why?


Because apparently you are a faith based thinker who is unwilling to READ anything that might confuse you with real FACTS


Senator Bernie Sanders at his official website reports:
The first top-to-bottom audit of the Federal Reserve uncovered eye-popping new details about how the U.S. provided a whopping $16 trillion in secret loans to bail out American and foreign banks and businesses during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. An amendment by Sen. Bernie Sanders to the Wall Street reform law passed one year ago this week directed the Government Accountability Office to conduct the study. "As a result of this audit, we now know that the Federal Reserve provided more than $16 trillion in total financial assistance to some of the largest financial institutions and corporations in the United States and throughout the world," said Sanders. "This is a clear case of socialism for the rich and rugged, you're-on-your-own individualism for everyone else."

Here, EDUCATE YOURSELF

Nobody is giving the FEDERAL RESERVE SCAM a harder time than Bernie.

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