Bernie Sanders - screw democracy. I'm more popular. I should be the Democratic Nominee!

[Valerie]

"I also would like to see the duopoly lose for once!"


glibertarians should grow up and recognize the reality of our present alternatives is bad for the country.

 

[Valerie]

"he genuinely cares about Americans. Which, is something clinton lacks."






Its All About The Bullsh#t (2)

 

[TNHarley]

"I also would like to see the duopoly lose for once!"


glibertarians should grow up and recognize the reality of our present alternatives is bad for the country.

Im not a libertarian.
I find it amusing you think Clinton is the best option. Failure, corporatism and insane policies are the ANSWER!

 

[Dot Com]

Bernie Sanders, an independent, not a Democrat, has done really well in states that have open voting. Again and again, other Independents have put him over the top.

But in states where the contest is open only to Democrats, he not only tends to lose, but lose big. He goes on about WV, where the voters were 98% white. Notice, not a word about Nebraska. Mrs. Clinton carried Nebraska.

And now, even though he is behind by millions of votes and hundreds of regular delegates, he feels he is more popular, so he should be the parties nominee. Forget what the voters think.

What that really is, is a glimpse into his brand of socialism.

Republicans practice voter suppression. That can no longer be denied. Even the leadership admits it. But Bernie feels he should decide. That the voters don't even count.

So, because he's behind right now, he MUST drop out of the race. Is that democracy?

yeah rdean? DESPITE the fact that its close AND he won the last couple of states.

Stop fluffing the crony Establ- types kid

He's hundreds of delegates behind not counting super delegates and two and a half million votes behind. And it's Independents, NOT Democrats who are skewing the elections. It's not that close. And he didn't win Nebraska and that was the last state.

ummm..... thats not very far behind and as far as the delegates go, they're scared of giving up all their crony establishment goodies to vote their conscience

You're not very good at this Dynasty/Establ fluffer

 

[Dot Com]

"he genuinely cares about Americans. Which, is something clinton lacks."






Its All About The Bullsh#t (2)

correct.

hiLIARy could give a shit. She just wants to live rent-free in the WH AGAIN while she does Wall Street's bidding Sugar Tits

 

[Dot Com]

40% of Bernie- supporters will vote for Trump if hiLIARy is the nominee.

 

[Valerie]

bernie doesn't know how to work with his peers and create consensus toward progress in congress, he just knows how to beat the simpleton drum with feel good platitudes about "corruption" and "greed" thus insulting every conscientious leader who's ever worked hard in committees to accomplish policy goals within our government system... that's because talk is cheap and EASY and actually getting things done is the hard part!

 

[Valerie]

Though one of their own -- Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders -- is running against Hillary Clinton, many of his Senate colleagues have lined up behind the former secretary of state.

With months of the campaign past, 40 of the 46 of senators who caucus with the Democrats have endorsed Clinton.

Here is the latest list of senators backing Clinton, who herself served in the chamber for eight years, starting in 2001:


Sen. Michael Bennet of Colorado -- The Colorado Democrat endorsed Clinton when he agreed to be a top member of her Colorado leadership team.
Sen. Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin -- Signed a letter with all other female senators backing a Clinton run.
Sen. Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut -- Told CNN at a 2014 University of Connecticut event that he "would support her when and if she" runs.
Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey -- Booker gushed about Clinton's qualifications in an NBC News interview. "There are few candidates in history who are as qualified or ready for the job of president as Hillary Clinton. I'm excited about her candidacy and her vision for our country," Booker said.
Sen. Barbara Boxer of California -- Signed a letter with all other female senators backing a Clinton run.
Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio -- Endorsed Clinton in late October, telling reporters in Ohio that she is the best person to keep the state moving forward.
Sen. Maria Cantwell of Washington -- Signed a letter with all other female senators backing a Clinton run.
Sen. Ben Cardin of Maryland -- Headlined a December 2014 fundraiser organized by Ready for Hillary.
Sen. Thomas Carper of Delaware -- After homestate favorite Vice President Joe Biden declined to run, Carper issued a statement endorsing Clinton. "Nearly 15 years ago, Hillary and I were elected to the United States Senate together, and since then I've had the joy and privilege of wishing my friend a happy birthday each year on October 26th. When I called her today, I had the opportunity to deliver a unique birthday message -- that I am proud to endorse her as the next Democratic nominee for President," he said.
Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania -- At a 2014 event in Philadelphia, Casey told CNN that it was too early to talk about Clinton 2016. "I'm not going to get into that," he said. But after Clinton announced her run, he emailed supporters to say, "Having served with her in the Senate, I know she has always been a strong advocate for the middle class and I'm confident she will work tirelessly to ensure that Pennsylvania families have the chance to get ahead and stay ahead."
Sen. Chris Coons of Delaware -- Announced on CNN's "New Day" on November 10 that he was backing Clinton, several weeks after Biden announced he wasn't running.
Sen. Joe Donnelly of Indiana -- Said in a November 13, 2015 statement "Hoosiers deserve and advocate for middle- and working-class families in their next president."
Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois -- Headlined a June 2014 fundraiser organized by Ready for Hillary.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California -- Signed a letter with all other female senators backing a Clinton run.
Sen. Al Franken of Minnesota -- The senator told MSNBC this in December 2014: "I think that I'm ready for Hillary. I think that we've not had someone this experienced, this tough, and she's very, very impressive." Franken has also expressed support through Ready for Hillary.
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York -- Signed a letter with all other female senators backing a Clinton run.
Sen. Martin Heinrich of New Mexico -- Headlined a July 2014 fundraiser organized by Ready for Hillary.
Sen. Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota -- Signed a letter with all other female senators backing a Clinton run.
Sen. Mazie Hirono of Hawaii -- Signed a letter with all other female senators backing a Clinton run.
Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida -- Nelson reportedly called Clinton in December 2014 to urge her to run. "It's time for a woman," he told The Tampa Bay Times. "I'm all for Hillary."
Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia -- Headlined a May 2014 fundraiser organized by Ready for Hillary.
Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota -- Signed a letter with all other female senators backing a Clinton run.
Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont -- Told Vermont Public Radio this in June 2014: "I told her if she decided to run I would support her and would be willing to do whatever she likes. I've made no secret of that ever since then."
Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia -- He told Politico in January 2014 that he wants Clinton to run. "I don't know if there's anyone more qualified. I've seen it all," he said.
Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts -- Markey endorsed Clinton in a statement to reporters in October 2015. "I believe there is no one better to lead the effort to combat climate change here at home against the climate deniers and around the world as we partner with other nations to implement clean energy solutions," he said.
Sen. Claire McCaskill of Missouri -- Signed a letter with all other female senators backing a Clinton run.
Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland -- Signed a letter with all other female senators backing a Clinton run.
Sen. Patty Murray of Washington -- Signed a letter with all other female senators backing a Clinton run.
Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut -- Murphy endorsed Clinton for president in June 2015. "I am proud to support her. I'm all in," he said in a statement.
Sen. Gary Peters of Michigan -- Peters tweeted in April, "I'm standing with @HillaryClinton because she's the middle class champion that America needs."
Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island -- Formally endorsed Clinton in April 2016.
Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada - Formally endorsed Hillary Clinton in an interview with CNN in February.
Sen. Brian Schatz of Hawaii -- Tweeted Monday morning that he was backing Clinton in 2016.
Sen. Charles Schumer of New York -- The outspoken senator has attended a number of Clinton events, including fundraisers."
Sen. Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire -- Signed a letter with all other female senators backing a Clinton run.
Sen. Debbie Stabenow of Michigan -- Signed a letter with all other female senators backing a Clinton run.
Tom Udall of New Mexico -- Udall tweeted in April that he was "ready for Hillary." Clinton, he wrote, "has the experience to be our next President."
Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia -- Headlined a July 2014 fundraiser organized by Ready for Hillary.
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island -- Told The Hill in January 2014 that he was backing Clinton.
Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon - Formally endorsed Clinton in January.

UNDECIDED
Not all senators, however, are ready to endorse Clinton and some have been unclear about their support.
Sen. Angus King of Maine (Independent who caucuses with Democrats).
Sen. Robert Menendez of New Jersey.
Sen. Jon Tester of Montana
Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts -- She signed a letter with all other female senators backing a Clinton run but as recently as last month, she still has declined to make a public, formal endorsement.

HIS OWN SUPPORTER
Only two senators who caucus with Democrats have outright lined up against Clinton -- and one of them is Bernie Sanders of Vermont, her rival for the party's nomination. And on April 13, Sen. Jeff Merkley of Oregon became the first of Sanders' Senate colleagues to formally endorse him.

Here are the Democratic senators backing Hillary Clinton for president - CNNPolitics.com



"All all of the women — Democratic women I should say — of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific," Senator Warren said...

 

[TNHarley]

bernie doesn't know how to work with his peers and create consensus toward progress in congress, he just knows how to beat the simpleton drum with feel good platitudes about "corruption" and "greed" thus insulting every conscientious leader who's ever worked hard in committees to accomplish policy goals within our government system... that's because talk is cheap and EASY and actually getting things done is the hard part!

And actually getting things done is where cankles lacks. Look at her record in the senate...
She got things done with her foreign policy though. Look at that failure she accomplished

 

[OldLady]

Okay, I know this is probably a stupid question, but why aren't unaffiliated voters ("Independents") allowed to vote in the primaries in every state, both parties? We live here and we vote here. It skews the results of the primaries and makes everyone spend months guessing how the Independents will vote in the election. In our state, Independents are a big hunk of voters who will vote either Dem or Repub--or this year, maybe stay home. I hate it that we don't have a voice in the choices.

If you aren't registered in a party, you don't get to vote for the primaries in some states. Some of them don't want independents fuckin everything up.
If you don't like it, don't vote for the duopoly. That's my advice anyways.

Us Independents ARE going to fuck everything up in November. And some of us know better than to vote for Johnson or the Green Party because it is a thrown away vote. I wish it weren't that way, but it is.

The general election isn't the primary..
So an independent believes in "throw away votes"? LOL Tell me more!

What's so funny?

 

[OldLady]

Okay, I know this is probably a stupid question, but why aren't unaffiliated voters ("Independents") allowed to vote in the primaries in every state, both parties? We live here and we vote here. It skews the results of the primaries and makes everyone spend months guessing how the Independents will vote in the election. In our state, Independents are a big hunk of voters who will vote either Dem or Repub--or this year, maybe stay home. I hate it that we don't have a voice in the choices.

If you aren't registered in a party, you don't get to vote for the primaries in some states. Some of them don't want independents fuckin everything up.
If you don't like it, don't vote for the duopoly. That's my advice anyways.

Us Independents ARE going to fuck everything up in November. And some of us know better than to vote for Johnson or the Green Party because it is a thrown away vote. I wish it weren't that way, but it is.

Many Independents will vote our conscience, not to "fuck things up."

Too many "Independents" are just mad at their own party, but hardly independent from it.

I didn't mean that in a bad way, was just echoing TN. I realize now, though, that I am misspeaking. I call myself an Independent but I am technically "Unaffiliated." You and others are referring to the actual Independent party, which to be honest I know nothing about.

 

[TNHarley]

Okay, I know this is probably a stupid question, but why aren't unaffiliated voters ("Independents") allowed to vote in the primaries in every state, both parties? We live here and we vote here. It skews the results of the primaries and makes everyone spend months guessing how the Independents will vote in the election. In our state, Independents are a big hunk of voters who will vote either Dem or Repub--or this year, maybe stay home. I hate it that we don't have a voice in the choices.

If you aren't registered in a party, you don't get to vote for the primaries in some states. Some of them don't want independents fuckin everything up.
If you don't like it, don't vote for the duopoly. That's my advice anyways.

Us Independents ARE going to fuck everything up in November. And some of us know better than to vote for Johnson or the Green Party because it is a thrown away vote. I wish it weren't that way, but it is.

The general election isn't the primary..
So an independent believes in "throw away votes"? LOL Tell me more!

What's so funny?

You are obviously completely vested in the duopoly. Even the most basic premise of an independent would be not to believe in throw away votes for the duopoly. Independents are independent of the repubs and dems.

 

[TNHarley]

Okay, I know this is probably a stupid question, but why aren't unaffiliated voters ("Independents") allowed to vote in the primaries in every state, both parties? We live here and we vote here. It skews the results of the primaries and makes everyone spend months guessing how the Independents will vote in the election. In our state, Independents are a big hunk of voters who will vote either Dem or Repub--or this year, maybe stay home. I hate it that we don't have a voice in the choices.

If you aren't registered in a party, you don't get to vote for the primaries in some states. Some of them don't want independents fuckin everything up.
If you don't like it, don't vote for the duopoly. That's my advice anyways.

Us Independents ARE going to fuck everything up in November. And some of us know better than to vote for Johnson or the Green Party because it is a thrown away vote. I wish it weren't that way, but it is.

Many Independents will vote our conscience, not to "fuck things up."

Too many "Independents" are just mad at their own party, but hardly independent from it.

I didn't mean that in a bad way, was just echoing TN. I realize now, though, that I am misspeaking. I call myself an Independent but I am technically "Unaffiliated." You and others are referring to the actual Independent party, which to be honest I know nothing about.

Independents don't have a party. Independents are the option if you aren't a dem or repub.
Independents are a variety of different parties.

 

[OldLady]

Okay, I know this is probably a stupid question, but why aren't unaffiliated voters ("Independents") allowed to vote in the primaries in every state, both parties? We live here and we vote here. It skews the results of the primaries and makes everyone spend months guessing how the Independents will vote in the election. In our state, Independents are a big hunk of voters who will vote either Dem or Repub--or this year, maybe stay home. I hate it that we don't have a voice in the choices.

If you aren't registered in a party, you don't get to vote for the primaries in some states. Some of them don't want independents fuckin everything up.
If you don't like it, don't vote for the duopoly. That's my advice anyways.

Us Independents ARE going to fuck everything up in November. And some of us know better than to vote for Johnson or the Green Party because it is a thrown away vote. I wish it weren't that way, but it is.

The general election isn't the primary..
So an independent believes in "throw away votes"? LOL Tell me more!

What's so funny?

You are obviously completely vested in the duopoly. Even the most basic premise of an independent would be not to believe in throw away votes for the duopoly. Independents are independent of the repubs and dems.

I am completely vested in not throwing away my vote. Being very self-centered, I treat my vote as if the fate of the free world were at stake. I don't vote for candidates according to what party they are in and I have voted for third party presidential candidates before, always vote a split ticket, depending on who I support down ballot, etc.
As I just realized, though, that you might be thinking I am a member of the Independent Party, which I'm not.

 

[Valerie]

harping against the evul duopoly as we approach this general election is lame.

at this juncture sore losers take that simpleton view of this political "debate".

"establishment" oh my!

i vote for gary johnson because i'm waaaay smarter than everybody!


Veteran: Trump Will Throw the Military into 'Crisis'

25% of Feds Would Consider Leaving Their Jobs if Trump Becomes President

Reason to vote Trump

 

[TNHarley]

Im voting for gary because I cant throw away my principles for gender or party reasons.

 

[Valerie]

Im voting for gary because I cant throw away my principles for gender or party reasons.

no one believes you have principles, sockboi...

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Okay, I know this is probably a stupid question, but why aren't unaffiliated voters ("Independents") allowed to vote in the primaries in every state, both parties? We live here and we vote here. It skews the results of the primaries and makes everyone spend months guessing how the Independents will vote in the election. In our state, Independents are a big hunk of voters who will vote either Dem or Repub--or this year, maybe stay home. I hate it that we don't have a voice in the choices.

If you aren't registered in a party, you don't get to vote for the primaries in some states. Some of them don't want independents fuckin everything up.
If you don't like it, don't vote for the duopoly. That's my advice anyways.

Us Independents ARE going to fuck everything up in November. And some of us know better than to vote for Johnson or the Green Party because it is a thrown away vote. I wish it weren't that way, but it is.

Many Independents will vote our conscience, not to "fuck things up."

Too many "Independents" are just mad at their own party, but hardly independent from it.

I didn't mean that in a bad way, was just echoing TN. I realize now, though, that I am misspeaking. I call myself an Independent but I am technically "Unaffiliated." You and others are referring to the actual Independent party, which to be honest I know nothing about.

No, I understood your meaning of independent good sister .. I wasn't referring to the Independent Party.

My point is that there are far too many who call themselves 'independent' who aren't really independent of their party or the duopoly at all. They're just disaffected democrats and republicans who are going to vote the same way they always have.

I didn't mean that as an offense to what you've said.

 

[NightFox]

[
Independents don't have a party. .

Oh Contraire.....

Republican PARTY

Democrat PARTY

Independent PARTY

 

[TNHarley]

Im voting for gary because I cant throw away my principles for gender or party reasons.

no one believes you have principles, sockboi...