Bernie's Socialist Utopias Would Rank Among the Poorest of U.S. States

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

 

[Arianrhod]

Key phrase "if they joined the U.S." Since they haven't and they won't, your article is comparing apples and socket wrenches.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

Gee, I wonder why they left Norway off that list?

 

[The Great Goose]

Gdp sux.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

Gee, I wonder why they left Norway off that list?

I saw that too, probably because oil is evil.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

Gee, I wonder why they left Norway off that list?

Norway would be number 8, based on 2014 numbers here.....

GDP per capita, PPP (current international $) | Data | Table

 

[NYcarbineer]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

Gee, I wonder why they left Norway off that list?

I saw that too, probably because oil is evil.

They didn't leave North Dakota off the top. The list is bogus.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

Gee, I wonder why they left Norway off that list?

I saw that too, probably because oil is evil.

They didn't leave North Dakota off the top. The list is bogus.

How is it bogus?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

They're always pining and yearning for the scandanavian states. Of course its no utopia over there. Libs love to romanticize about trains, controlling people, herding the masses, indefinite fondling about far away socialist utopias etc.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

Gee, I wonder why they left Norway off that list?

Norway would be number 8, based on 2014 numbers here.....

GDP per capita, PPP (current international $) | Data | Table

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

Gee, I wonder why they left Norway off that list?

I saw that too, probably because oil is evil.

They didn't leave North Dakota off the top. The list is bogus.

How is it bogus?

By leaving off Norway.

Google

Norway is also considered the most socialistic country in Europe.

Kind of messes up the argument.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

They're always pining and yearning for the scandanavian states. Of course its no utopia over there. Libs love to romanticize about trains, controlling people, herding the masses, indefinite fondling about far away socialist utopias etc.

We have Vermont. Low unemployment, high liberalism.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

They're always pining and yearning for the scandanavian states. Of course its no utopia over there. Libs love to romanticize about trains, controlling people, herding the masses, indefinite fondling about far away socialist utopias etc.

We have Vermont. Low unemployment, high liberalism.

Lol. It helps out when only 600k live there.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

Gee, I wonder why they left Norway off that list?

Norway would be number 8, based on 2014 numbers here.....

GDP per capita, PPP (current international $) | Data | Table

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

Gee, I wonder why they left Norway off that list?

I saw that too, probably because oil is evil.

They didn't leave North Dakota off the top. The list is bogus.

How is it bogus?

By leaving off Norway.

Google

Norway is also considered the most socialistic country in Europe.

Kind of messes up the argument.

You're right, a socialist country that exploits Mother Earth by extracting huge amounts of evil hydrocarbons that will kill the planet, has a higher GDP than the socialist countries that rank around the level of New Mexico.
New Mexico is a shithole.

 

[Agit8r]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

That data might be useful for some things, but it doesn't mean much on main street.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

They're always pining and yearning for the scandanavian states. Of course its no utopia over there. Libs love to romanticize about trains, controlling people, herding the masses, indefinite fondling about far away socialist utopias etc.

We have Vermont. Low unemployment, high liberalism.

Lol. It helps out when only 600k live there.

94% white.......

 

[LordBrownTrout]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

They're always pining and yearning for the scandanavian states. Of course its no utopia over there. Libs love to romanticize about trains, controlling people, herding the masses, indefinite fondling about far away socialist utopias etc.

We have Vermont. Low unemployment, high liberalism.

Lol. It helps out when only 600k live there.

94% white.......

Good point. I wonder if we could run a causation/correlation to other lovely lib meccas such as detroit and chicago where murder is rampant and unemployment is off the charts.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

Gee, I wonder why they left Norway off that list?

Norway would be number 8, based on 2014 numbers here.....

GDP per capita, PPP (current international $) | Data | Table

Gee, I wonder why they left Norway off that list?

I saw that too, probably because oil is evil.

They didn't leave North Dakota off the top. The list is bogus.

How is it bogus?

By leaving off Norway.

Google

Norway is also considered the most socialistic country in Europe.

Kind of messes up the argument.

You're right, a socialist country that exploits Mother Earth by extracting huge amounts of evil hydrocarbons that will kill the planet, has a higher GDP than the socialist countries that rank around the level of New Mexico.
New Mexico is a shithole.

I'm just proving that the 'socialism' factor in the OP doesn't serve as a reliable indicator.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

That data might be useful for some things, but it doesn't mean much on main street.

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Median isn't average, but thanks.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

They're always pining and yearning for the scandanavian states. Of course its no utopia over there. Libs love to romanticize about trains, controlling people, herding the masses, indefinite fondling about far away socialist utopias etc.

We have Vermont. Low unemployment, high liberalism.

Lol. It helps out when only 600k live there.

94% white.......

Good point. I wonder if we could run a causation/correlation to other lovely lib meccas such as detroit and chicago where murder is rampant and unemployment is off the charts.

Or San Francisco and San Jose, 2 of the meckier lib meccas and two of the richest cities in the US.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We always hear the left gloat about how wonderful Europeans have it with all of their nanny state welfare programs, but the fact of the matter is the average American enjoys a higher standard of living than the average European.

Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards.

Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country.

And here’s the table Mark prepared.

Most of Europe Is a Lot Poorer than Most of the United States | Daniel J. Mitchell

Gee, I wonder why they left Norway off that list?

Norway would be number 8, based on 2014 numbers here.....

GDP per capita, PPP (current international $) | Data | Table

I saw that too, probably because oil is evil.

They didn't leave North Dakota off the top. The list is bogus.

How is it bogus?

By leaving off Norway.

Google

Norway is also considered the most socialistic country in Europe.

Kind of messes up the argument.

You're right, a socialist country that exploits Mother Earth by extracting huge amounts of evil hydrocarbons that will kill the planet, has a higher GDP than the socialist countries that rank around the level of New Mexico.
New Mexico is a shithole.

I'm just proving that the 'socialism' factor in the OP doesn't serve as a reliable indicator.

Socialism didn't help those non-oil countries create a higher GDP than Oklahoma......