Beware the Marxist world of Kamalla Harris: "There’s a big difference between equality and equity."

[Curried Goats]

Our Constitution promises us neither equality nor equity. It promises us equal rights under the law. Tasking government with either equality or equity as a goal, demands that it violate equal rights. That's a problem. We're trading in equal rights for "equity" and it will come back to haunt us.

And because the Constitution says so we have to pretend it makes rational sense even though it was written by ignorant fucking morons.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

It is.

Just saying it is doesn't make it true.

If you refuse to define it or simply can't, it remains subjective.

Capitalism is a system where those with capital, i.e, property and resources, control the means of production while laborers, who don't have capital, have to exchange their labor for wages.

And?

In order to even have capitalism you have to have people with capital and people without capital.

Again, and?

I'm agnostic.

Not about subjectivism/objectivism you're not.

Does it? I don't even know what the it is here.

The "the incongruity of property and equal rights." you idiot.

What are you trying to ask me?

I already did ask you, dumbass. I asked what you're problem was with capitalism being inherently unequal if at the same time you won't say it should be.

What? What truth or imperative that the system should be different than it is? I don't know what that means.

Of course you don't. That's because it's a little more complicated than subjectivism/objectivism.

I'm not against rights, I just think we should recognize them for what they actually are, which are creations of society and law and government, rather than these magical things that exist in nature.

Okay, and?

Wrong.

So you don't want equal outcomes? Then why change the system?

 

[TruthNotBS]

I think the reason "equity" gets associated with socialism or marxism is that all of these require government to interfere in economic matters, effectively overruling the decisions of society as express via the market. (eg, society decides that flipping burgers isn't worth much, but government demands that burger flippers be paid more). Marxism might not be concerned with equity, but both approaches require government control of our economic decisions.

In reality, there's plenty of government intervention in capitalism. Without the government's involvement in economic matters, there's no economy or legal tender (i.e. money recognized and backed by a government authority). Without money, there's no capitalism.

A democratic republican government is a social apparatus organized by the people to manage their large-scale socioeconomic and civil affairs. You "overrule" or undermine society, by insisting that democracy should just be exercised and expressed in the marketplace and not in government.

Society has decided that full-time workers should earn a living wage. If people work full-time and can't feed themselves or pay their rent, then society has to pick up the tab and provide those people with food stamps and public housing. No, let the capitalists make a bit less money and pay all of their employees a living wage. That also stimulates the economy, because when workers earn more, they spend more, and that's good for capitalists who are selling their products and services to working-class people (94% of the population). Pay people a good wage, and they have more money to spend in the marketplace.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

That's exactly what society is created to do.

Created to do what, attain equal outcomes? Now who's indulging in fantasy?

Unless you think it's okay for a stronger, better armed person to come by and murder you and take your stuff.

We're not talking about murder and robbery, dumbass, we're talking about an economic system.

 

[my2¢]

The one word that strikes me as nail on a chalkboard today is 'marginalized'.

 

[WEATHER53]

You are so naive it’s crazy,

If you give someone the choice to work hard and get nowhere or to do no work but get the same compensation as the first example what the fuck do you think people will
Choose?

That guy believes he deserves a bankroll first so he can start a business second

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Marxist Politicians want everyone to be equal.
But Marxist Politicians don't lift the poor.
They beat down the middle class.
It takes oppression to make everyone equal.
And of course, equality doesn't apply to the Marxist Politicians who become immensely wealthy.
The truth about Marxism is that Marxist Politicians become the slave masters and the citizens become their slaves.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

'Equity' is just another crazy left wing euphonism for theft.
The truth is that Socialism is about stealing.

 

[dblack]

Society has decided that full-time workers should earn a living wage.

Nope. Some governments have decided that.