Biden admin to ban menthol cigs and blunts. What could go wrong?

[Yarddog]

Smoking Kool and Salem are like smoking cough drops.

You know, they could probably just dip them in toothpaste and let em dry.

 

[flacaltenn]

They be squares and does this include smokeless tobaccer?

I did smoke heavily in my 20s and 40s.. And my experience was on campus and elsewhere that folks that wanted to bum a cig -- looked at me as crazy when I whipped out my menthols.. About an 80% -- "I'd rather die of nicotine withdrawal than smoke one of those"... It's true...

For a while I switched to Menthol to stop one particular leech coworker who would try to bum several a day. That ended it.

SEE? The FDA is full of shit on this one.. No surprise..

 

[flacaltenn]

Largely because menthol cigs are racist. Over 80% of black smokers choose menthol cigs and other POC hold a 2 to 1 preference over whites.

So -- just when we we're finally "decriminalizing" maryjawanna and removing that black market from the hoods, we're gonna criminalize the sale of racist menthol cigs? Makes sense. Why don't we criminalize Malt liquor and fried chicken while we're at it?? WAS THAT RACIST? Apparently not, because if the FDA can call out menthol cigs as racist, I should be allowed to point out how "racist" Malt Liquor and Fried Chicken are killing POColor...

Both the ACLU and many predominantly black orgs -- including many in the CBlackCaucus opposed this.. Because black markets will disproportionally create biased enforcement against POC. Do we really want to see what happens when 250,000 black smokers toss the world's biggest synchronized nicotine fit? What exactly is the Nanny State goal here? To piss off a huge portion of their remaining loyal black voters???

I'm gonna enjoy watching the backlash and the burn. MAYBE -- folks will realize that worshipping the nanny staters is a path for reduction of Civil Liberties. And without the larger set of Civil Liberties, there can be no Civil RIghts..

Biden Administration Seeks Ban on Menthol Cigarettes

The Biden administration will pursue a ban on menthol cigarettes, a policy move that could sweep from the market more than a third of all cigarettes sold in the U.S.

www.wsj.com

Menthols are the overwhelming cigarette of choice for Black smokers, and Black people in the U.S. die at higher rates than other groups from smoking-related diseases such as cancer, heart disease and stroke.

In the U.S., 84% of Black smokers and 47% of Hispanic smokers use menthols, compared with 30% of white smokers, according to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health data.


The FDA Thursday pointed to a study suggesting that banning menthol cigarettes in the U.S. would prompt an additional 923,000 smokers to quit, including 230,000 African Americans in the first 13 to 17 months after a ban goes into effect.

Of course, this threat has been around the whole smoking dust-up for more than a decade. But there was never an Admin stupid enough to piss off their OWN CONSTITUENTS and faithful --- UNTIL NOW...

I smoke menthol. Fuck Biden, I'll haul my black ass to the next protest/riot....oh wait....

I imagine this will do wonders for race relations..

They are color blind but not in the sense you think.
They feel above the fray and invincible.
We have spent years trying to get pot legal but outlaw cigs. What fucking sense does that make???

They dont want to ban cigs anymore.. The cities and states make 3 times the profit the tobacco companies do on a pack.. This is why Eric Gardner lost his life selling looseys on the street in NYCiuty.. Because the mayor got angry about competition in pushing cigarettes.. THIS WILL HAPPEN if the mental midgets get their way..

Aint about banning cigarettes.. It's totally another woke hand grenade about to blow up on them.

 

[flacaltenn]

The Food and Drug Administration appears likely to move to ban menthol in cigarettes this week — a step, experts say, that has been years in the making and that could have a significant positive impact on the health of Black Americans.

The FDA's decision would not ban menthol immediately, but rather kick off the rule-making process to do so, which could take years.

"The winds are definitely in our favor," said Delmonte Jefferson, executive director of the Center for Black Health & Equity, citing both the decades of data that show that the cooling flavor in cigarettes makes it easier to start smoking combined with the current cultural momentum toward improving the lives of Black Americans.

When inhaled, menthol produces a cooling sensation in the throat, reducing the harsh taste of cigarettes and the irritation of nicotine. The vast majority of Black smokers — 85 percent — use menthol cigarettes. And Black men and women are much less likely than white Americans to be diagnosed with lung cancer at an earlier, potentially more treatable stage. Black men have the highest lung cancer death rate in the country.

"When you combine high rates of smoking with systematic racism in health care systems, you have a tremendous health disparity," said Erika Sward, national assistant vice president for advocacy at the American Lung Association. Both the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Institutes of Health recently announced plans to address structural racism in health care.

The FDA could ban menthol cigarettes this week. Experts say Black Americans would benefit most.

The action would not remove menthol tobacco from stores immediately, but rather kick off the rule-making process to do so, which could take several years.

www.nbcnews.com

Hey you black people. You don't have the sense to make good judgements on your own. That's what Big Brother is for.

So they ban a very popular product used in black communities. What will the results be? The same results when some places had much higher cigarette taxes than others, and that is it creates a black market, no pun intended.

This is already taking place in New York where the price of cigarettes is almost $13.00 for one pack which is why the late Eric Garner sold them one at a time that ultimately led to his death, but this is different because it's aimed specifically at the black communities across the entire country since they are the largest consumers of menthol cigarettes.

While the supposed goal is to make black communities healthier, it will also make more blacks into criminals as banning a popular product doesn't make people not want them. It creates an opportunity for those that can beat the system. If menthol cigarettes can't be found outside of the country, they will roll their own cigarettes (perfectly legal) and insert menthol into the loose tobacco before they roll it and sell them that way.

Also in the policy will be the banning of blunts; flavored mini-cigars that blacks often use to smoke pot without detection.

Don't black people have enough problems with the law without creating policy that will only make things worse?

Sorry about the merge man.. Looks bad, but I beat you by 2 minutes... LOL... We can share the OPosts...

 

[Montrovant]

Honestly I was always annoyed that they banned other flavors in cigarettes, but allowed menthol to continue. At least banning menthol would be more consistent.

 

[Doc7505]

The Food and Drug Administration appears likely to move to ban menthol in cigarettes this week — a step, experts say, that has been years in the making and that could have a significant positive impact on the health of Black Americans.

The FDA's decision would not ban menthol immediately, but rather kick off the rule-making process to do so, which could take years.

"The winds are definitely in our favor," said Delmonte Jefferson, executive director of the Center for Black Health & Equity, citing both the decades of data that show that the cooling flavor in cigarettes makes it easier to start smoking combined with the current cultural momentum toward improving the lives of Black Americans.

When inhaled, menthol produces a cooling sensation in the throat, reducing the harsh taste of cigarettes and the irritation of nicotine. The vast majority of Black smokers — 85 percent — use menthol cigarettes. And Black men and women are much less likely than white Americans to be diagnosed with lung cancer at an earlier, potentially more treatable stage. Black men have the highest lung cancer death rate in the country.

"When you combine high rates of smoking with systematic racism in health care systems, you have a tremendous health disparity," said Erika Sward, national assistant vice president for advocacy at the American Lung Association. Both the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Institutes of Health recently announced plans to address structural racism in health care.

The FDA could ban menthol cigarettes this week. Experts say Black Americans would benefit most.

The action would not remove menthol tobacco from stores immediately, but rather kick off the rule-making process to do so, which could take several years.

www.nbcnews.com

Hey you black people. You don't have the sense to make good judgements on your own. That's what Big Brother is for.

So they ban a very popular product used in black communities. What will the results be? The same results when some places had much higher cigarette taxes than others, and that is it creates a black market, no pun intended.

This is already taking place in New York where the price of cigarettes is almost $13.00 for one pack which is why the late Eric Garner sold them one at a time that ultimately led to his death, but this is different because it's aimed specifically at the black communities across the entire country since they are the largest consumers of menthol cigarettes.

While the supposed goal is to make black communities healthier, it will also make more blacks into criminals as banning a popular product doesn't make people not want them. It creates an opportunity for those that can beat the system. If menthol cigarettes can't be found outside of the country, they will roll their own cigarettes (perfectly legal) and insert menthol into the loose tobacco before they roll it and sell them that way.

Also in the policy will be the banning of blunts; flavored mini-cigars that blacks often use to smoke pot without detection.

Don't black people have enough problems with the law without creating policy that will only make things worse?

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It appears that the Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrats will next be telling Black people what to eat and drink, including the amounts... No more Big Gulps for you...

 

[Ridgerunner]

Niggas be mad.

and shit...

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Largely because menthol cigs are racist. Over 80% of black smokers choose menthol cigs and other POC hold a 2 to 1 preference over whites.

So -- just when we we're finally "decriminalizing" maryjawanna and removing that black market from the hoods, we're gonna criminalize the sale of racist menthol cigs? Makes sense. Why don't we criminalize Malt liquor and fried chicken while we're at it?? WAS THAT RACIST? Apparently not, because if the FDA can call out menthol cigs as racist, I should be allowed to point out how "racist" Malt Liquor and Fried Chicken are killing POColor...

Both the ACLU and many predominantly black orgs -- including many in the CBlackCaucus opposed this.. Because black markets will disproportionally create biased enforcement against POC. Do we really want to see what happens when 250,000 black smokers toss the world's biggest synchronized nicotine fit? What exactly is the Nanny State goal here? To piss off a huge portion of their remaining loyal black voters???

I'm gonna enjoy watching the backlash and the burn. MAYBE -- folks will realize that worshipping the nanny staters is a path for reduction of Civil Liberties. And without the larger set of Civil Liberties, there can be no Civil RIghts..

Biden Administration Seeks Ban on Menthol Cigarettes

The Biden administration will pursue a ban on menthol cigarettes, a policy move that could sweep from the market more than a third of all cigarettes sold in the U.S.

www.wsj.com

Menthols are the overwhelming cigarette of choice for Black smokers, and Black people in the U.S. die at higher rates than other groups from smoking-related diseases such as cancer, heart disease and stroke.

In the U.S., 84% of Black smokers and 47% of Hispanic smokers use menthols, compared with 30% of white smokers, according to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health data.


The FDA Thursday pointed to a study suggesting that banning menthol cigarettes in the U.S. would prompt an additional 923,000 smokers to quit, including 230,000 African Americans in the first 13 to 17 months after a ban goes into effect.

Of course, this threat has been around the whole smoking dust-up for more than a decade. But there was never an Admin stupid enough to piss off their OWN CONSTITUENTS and faithful --- UNTIL NOW...

I smoke menthol. Fuck Biden, I'll haul my black ass to the next protest/riot....oh wait....

If you are under 18 or not white you can't buy menthol cigarettes

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Largely because menthol cigs are racist. Over 80% of black smokers choose menthol cigs and other POC hold a 2 to 1 preference over whites.

So -- just when we we're finally "decriminalizing" maryjawanna and removing that black market from the hoods, we're gonna criminalize the sale of racist menthol cigs? Makes sense. Why don't we criminalize Malt liquor and fried chicken while we're at it?? WAS THAT RACIST? Apparently not, because if the FDA can call out menthol cigs as racist, I should be allowed to point out how "racist" Malt Liquor and Fried Chicken are killing POColor...

Both the ACLU and many predominantly black orgs -- including many in the CBlackCaucus opposed this.. Because black markets will disproportionally create biased enforcement against POC. Do we really want to see what happens when 250,000 black smokers toss the world's biggest synchronized nicotine fit? What exactly is the Nanny State goal here? To piss off a huge portion of their remaining loyal black voters???

I'm gonna enjoy watching the backlash and the burn. MAYBE -- folks will realize that worshipping the nanny staters is a path for reduction of Civil Liberties. And without the larger set of Civil Liberties, there can be no Civil RIghts..

Biden Administration Seeks Ban on Menthol Cigarettes

The Biden administration will pursue a ban on menthol cigarettes, a policy move that could sweep from the market more than a third of all cigarettes sold in the U.S.

www.wsj.com

Menthols are the overwhelming cigarette of choice for Black smokers, and Black people in the U.S. die at higher rates than other groups from smoking-related diseases such as cancer, heart disease and stroke.

In the U.S., 84% of Black smokers and 47% of Hispanic smokers use menthols, compared with 30% of white smokers, according to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health data.


The FDA Thursday pointed to a study suggesting that banning menthol cigarettes in the U.S. would prompt an additional 923,000 smokers to quit, including 230,000 African Americans in the first 13 to 17 months after a ban goes into effect.

Of course, this threat has been around the whole smoking dust-up for more than a decade. But there was never an Admin stupid enough to piss off their OWN CONSTITUENTS and faithful --- UNTIL NOW...

I smoke menthol. Fuck Biden, I'll haul my black ass to the next protest/riot....oh wait....

If you are under 18 or not white you can't buy menthol cigarettes

Been smokin menthols for 40 years.

 

[Doc7505]

Honestly I was always annoyed that they banned other flavors in cigarettes, but allowed menthol to continue. At least banning menthol would be more consistent.

What's the problem Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrat Commies still allow Blacks to smoke Crack and Gunja and doojee.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Honestly I was always annoyed that they banned other flavors in cigarettes, but allowed menthol to continue. At least banning menthol would be more consistent.

I don't think they should be banning anything, especially at the risk of turning more people into criminals for doing something they can legally do today. This is not to say it will create more Eric Garners. but how ridiculous is it that you can get free syringes in San Francisco to inject dope but can't buy a pack of menthol cigarettes?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What's the problem Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrat Commies still allow Blacks to smoke Crack and Gunja and doojee.

And remember how the commies were saying it was racist to give more prison time to crack dealers and users than it was cocaine because it's mostly whites that use cocaine, while crack is mostly a ghetto drug?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Sorry about the merge man.. Looks bad, but I beat you by 2 minutes... LOL... We can share the OPosts...

Yeah, go ahead and brag.

As long as somebody here is posting the hypocrisy of the left, especially to black members, I'm good with it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

For a while I switched to Menthol to stop one particular leech coworker who would try to bum several a day. That ended it.

I used menthol cigs as a kid. One day I started to cough and blood came out. That was the end of menthol for me.

 

[Doc7505]

What's the problem Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrat Commies still allow Blacks to smoke Crack and Gunja and doojee.

And remember how the commies were saying it was racist to give more prison time to crack dealers and users than it was cocaine because it's mostly whites that use cocaine, while crack is mostly a ghetto drug?

At least Black people know the difference between Crack and Parmesan cheese.

Hunter Biden says he smoked 'more Parmesan cheese than anyone' when he was addicted to crack cocaine

Biden, 51, said in his new memoir that he smoked "anything that remotely resembled crack cocaine" — even Parmesan cheese.

www.businessinsider.com

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[flacaltenn]

Does the loyal democrat pot head base still see the possibility of legalizing marijuana?

I do but not with Biden he needs to go..

Kam Harris says they dont have time to consider legalizing her favorite drug -- marijuana.. But SOMEHOW -- they have time for this..

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I did smoke heavily in my 20s and 40s.. And my experience was on campus and elsewhere that folks that wanted to bum a cig -- looked at me as crazy when I whipped out my menthols.. About an 80% -- "I'd rather die of nicotine withdrawal than smoke one of those"... It's true...

That's what happens when you go to such a segregated school where there are no black people.

 

[flacaltenn]

For a while I switched to Menthol to stop one particular leech coworker who would try to bum several a day. That ended it.

I used menthol cigs as a kid. One day I started to cough and blood came out. That was the end of menthol for me.

You could get paid for that testimonial -- if wanted to a couple school assemblies a day..

 

[flacaltenn]

I did smoke heavily in my 20s and 40s.. And my experience was on campus and elsewhere that folks that wanted to bum a cig -- looked at me as crazy when I whipped out my menthols.. About an 80% -- "I'd rather die of nicotine withdrawal than smoke one of those"... It's true...

That's what happens when you go to such a segregated school where there are no black people.

Univ of Fla wasn't that s

Honestly I was always annoyed that they banned other flavors in cigarettes, but allowed menthol to continue. At least banning menthol would be more consistent.

And blunts? Can you even BUY blunts in white neighborhoods? Dunno... Went thru this same argument when the FDA thought vaping was crippling kids in droves. Turns out, it wasn't the flavors.. It was black market MARIJUANA oils that caused the alarm..

Govt is always 4 steps behind in nannying...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Kam Harris says they dont have time to consider legalizing her favorite drug -- marijuana.. But SOMEHOW -- they have time for this..

Like the Rudy search warrants, they will claim to know nothing about it.

This topic brings up a bigger issue in my mind, and that is bureaucratic power. Our founders created a government system where citizens could redress laws made against them by the representatives they elect. Somehow, they were able to transfer that power (unconstitutionally in my opinion) to bureaucrats. When politicians want to make a move against the people against their will, just have a bureaucracy do it for them and that way they take no blame.