Biden/Obama in 2020

[Billy_Bob]

So what would happen in the event something happened to Biden if he were president? Obama cannot legally be president again right?

Obviously this is wrong for so many reasons and I can't imagine the MSM even supporting it, though based on their desperation to dethrone Trump "by any means necessary" anything is possible

It sounds legally possible.

Could Joe Biden pick Barack Obama as his running mate? Yes. But.

VP has to become POTUS if something happens to Biden. Its against the constitution for Obama to do that since he served 8 years.

As I said above - it's legally possible.

Could Joe Biden pick Barack Obama as his running mate? Yes. But.

Cant read that link. It wants me to sign up for a subscription. What does it say?

It's too long to post - but does sound legally possible. Here are some excerpts:

The answer seems straightforward. But it is less straightforward than it appears.

Michael Dorf is a professor of constitutional law at Cornell University. In 2000, he argued that an Al Gore-Bill Clinton ticket could withstand legal scrutiny. And when we spoke by phone on Thursday, he said that he stood by that argument.

The rough outline of his argument is this: The 22nd Amendment doesn't say you can't be president for more than two terms. It says you can't be elected president twice. If a Biden-Obama ticket won (which we'll get to), and tragedy were to befall Joe Biden, Barack Obama could become president, according to the letter of the law (which we'll also get to), since he wasn't elected to the position. As such, Obama is not constitutionally ineligible to serve as president.

So, in short: Yes, Joe Biden can name Barack Obama as his running mate. It's even conceivable that, if they won, they could argue their case before Congress to be seated as president and vice president.

AMENDMENT XXII - Passed by Congress March 21, 1947. Ratified February 27, 1951.

Section 1.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.


NO! he can not...

 

[Lakhota]

Lakhota you forgot about Valerie Jarrett, she was our first woman president. But I think she was born in Iran, shucks.

Do I have to put your dumbass on ignore?

 

[Lakhota]

It sounds legally possible.

Could Joe Biden pick Barack Obama as his running mate? Yes. But.

VP has to become POTUS if something happens to Biden. Its against the constitution for Obama to do that since he served 8 years.

As I said above - it's legally possible.

Could Joe Biden pick Barack Obama as his running mate? Yes. But.

Cant read that link. It wants me to sign up for a subscription. What does it say?

It's too long to post - but does sound legally possible. Here are some excerpts:

The answer seems straightforward. But it is less straightforward than it appears.

Michael Dorf is a professor of constitutional law at Cornell University. In 2000, he argued that an Al Gore-Bill Clinton ticket could withstand legal scrutiny. And when we spoke by phone on Thursday, he said that he stood by that argument.

The rough outline of his argument is this: The 22nd Amendment doesn't say you can't be president for more than two terms. It says you can't be elected president twice. If a Biden-Obama ticket won (which we'll get to), and tragedy were to befall Joe Biden, Barack Obama could become president, according to the letter of the law (which we'll also get to), since he wasn't elected to the position. As such, Obama is not constitutionally ineligible to serve as president.

So, in short: Yes, Joe Biden can name Barack Obama as his running mate. It's even conceivable that, if they won, they could argue their case before Congress to be seated as president and vice president.

AMENDMENT XXII - Passed by Congress March 21, 1947. Ratified February 27, 1951.

Section 1.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.


NO! he can not...

Yes, like I stated above - "elected" is the operative word. Read my link slowly.

The rough outline of his argument is this: The 22nd Amendment doesn't say you can't be president for more than two terms. It says you can't be elected president twice. If a Biden-Obama ticket won (which we'll get to), and tragedy were to befall Joe Biden, Barack Obama could become president, according to the letter of the law (which we'll also get to), since he wasn't elected to the position. As such, Obama is not constitutionally ineligible to serve as president.

 

[frigidweirdo]

VP has to become POTUS if something happens to Biden. Its against the constitution for Obama to do that since he served 8 years.

As I said above - it's legally possible.

Could Joe Biden pick Barack Obama as his running mate? Yes. But.

Cant read that link. It wants me to sign up for a subscription. What does it say?

It's too long to post - but does sound legally possible. Here are some excerpts:

The answer seems straightforward. But it is less straightforward than it appears.

Michael Dorf is a professor of constitutional law at Cornell University. In 2000, he argued that an Al Gore-Bill Clinton ticket could withstand legal scrutiny. And when we spoke by phone on Thursday, he said that he stood by that argument.

The rough outline of his argument is this: The 22nd Amendment doesn't say you can't be president for more than two terms. It says you can't be elected president twice. If a Biden-Obama ticket won (which we'll get to), and tragedy were to befall Joe Biden, Barack Obama could become president, according to the letter of the law (which we'll also get to), since he wasn't elected to the position. As such, Obama is not constitutionally ineligible to serve as president.

So, in short: Yes, Joe Biden can name Barack Obama as his running mate. It's even conceivable that, if they won, they could argue their case before Congress to be seated as president and vice president.

Maybe, but there's what it says, and there's what it means.

I think people would find this a little hard to digest, and I think the attacks would be quite strong.

Quite strong? No shit. NaziCons would be up in arms. But it's a feasible way to send Trump and his mafia into political oblivion.

Would it?

In Biden a candidate that would do that?

Would Obama overshadow him? Of course.

The attacks would be relentless, the insinuations that Obama wants to be President for life and all of that would make it impossible.

 

[BULLDOG]

This sounds like a great idea to me! It's sinking in! What do you think?

So is that picture of Obama and Farrakhan.

So. David Duke likes him too.

Of course he does.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

As the Twenty-Second Amendment is written, there is nothing to stop a former two-term President from serving again as President, if he achieved that office by any other means than being directly elected to it. The scenario described in the OP could indeed legitimately happen—Biden (or any other candidate) could choose Obama as his running mate, Obama could be thus elected vice President, and then service again as President if the President with whom he ran died or was otherwise removed from office. Obama could also be elected or assigned to other positions within the line of succession, and then rise to the Presidency if all those ahead of him in that line were removed.

It's all possible, and legal, albeit extremely unlikely.

On a related note, there has been one President of this country who was never elected to either the position of President nor Vice-President. I am wondering who else here on this forum knows which President that was, and how he became President.

 

[Lakhota]

As I said above - it's legally possible.

Could Joe Biden pick Barack Obama as his running mate? Yes. But.

Cant read that link. It wants me to sign up for a subscription. What does it say?

It's too long to post - but does sound legally possible. Here are some excerpts:

The answer seems straightforward. But it is less straightforward than it appears.

Michael Dorf is a professor of constitutional law at Cornell University. In 2000, he argued that an Al Gore-Bill Clinton ticket could withstand legal scrutiny. And when we spoke by phone on Thursday, he said that he stood by that argument.

The rough outline of his argument is this: The 22nd Amendment doesn't say you can't be president for more than two terms. It says you can't be elected president twice. If a Biden-Obama ticket won (which we'll get to), and tragedy were to befall Joe Biden, Barack Obama could become president, according to the letter of the law (which we'll also get to), since he wasn't elected to the position. As such, Obama is not constitutionally ineligible to serve as president.

So, in short: Yes, Joe Biden can name Barack Obama as his running mate. It's even conceivable that, if they won, they could argue their case before Congress to be seated as president and vice president.

Maybe, but there's what it says, and there's what it means.

I think people would find this a little hard to digest, and I think the attacks would be quite strong.

Quite strong? No shit. NaziCons would be up in arms. But it's a feasible way to send Trump and his mafia into political oblivion.

Would it?

In Biden a candidate that would do that?

Would Obama overshadow him? Of course.

The attacks would be relentless, the insinuations that Obama wants to be President for life and all of that would make it impossible.

So what? At least they wouldn't be Russian puppets, crooks, and cavorting with hookers and porn stars. Both men are of honorable character and good family men.

 

[Witchit]

We just need to follow the people's candidates, which at this point in time are some variation of Harris +. Nobody wants Hillary, Obama, Oprah, etc. They want what we had with Obama, which is youth, education and intelligence.

Berners are still screaming that he was robbed. No. He needs to back the hell off and stop trying to vampire the Democratic party. He's already done enough damage and ffs he's ancient.

 

[Lastamender]

Lakhota you forgot about Valerie Jarrett, she was our first woman president. But I think she was born in Iran, shucks.

Do I have to put your dumbass on ignore?

Who cares dumbass?

 

[Billy_Bob]

VP has to become POTUS if something happens to Biden. Its against the constitution for Obama to do that since he served 8 years.

As I said above - it's legally possible.

Could Joe Biden pick Barack Obama as his running mate? Yes. But.

Cant read that link. It wants me to sign up for a subscription. What does it say?

It's too long to post - but does sound legally possible. Here are some excerpts:

The answer seems straightforward. But it is less straightforward than it appears.

Michael Dorf is a professor of constitutional law at Cornell University. In 2000, he argued that an Al Gore-Bill Clinton ticket could withstand legal scrutiny. And when we spoke by phone on Thursday, he said that he stood by that argument.

The rough outline of his argument is this: The 22nd Amendment doesn't say you can't be president for more than two terms. It says you can't be elected president twice. If a Biden-Obama ticket won (which we'll get to), and tragedy were to befall Joe Biden, Barack Obama could become president, according to the letter of the law (which we'll also get to), since he wasn't elected to the position. As such, Obama is not constitutionally ineligible to serve as president.

So, in short: Yes, Joe Biden can name Barack Obama as his running mate. It's even conceivable that, if they won, they could argue their case before Congress to be seated as president and vice president.

AMENDMENT XXII - Passed by Congress March 21, 1947. Ratified February 27, 1951.

Section 1.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.


NO! he can not...

Yes, like I stated above - "elected" is the operative word. Read my link slowly.

The rough outline of his argument is this: The 22nd Amendment doesn't say you can't be president for more than two terms. It says you can't be elected president twice. If a Biden-Obama ticket won (which we'll get to), and tragedy were to befall Joe Biden, Barack Obama could become president, according to the letter of the law (which we'll also get to), since he wasn't elected to the position. As such, Obama is not constitutionally ineligible to serve as president.

DO I need to type S L O W L Y for your dumb ass? HE CAN NOT HOLD THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT. This makes him ineligible to be Biden's running mate as that is a mandatory qualification for the position....

 

[Lakhota]

As I said above - it's legally possible.

Could Joe Biden pick Barack Obama as his running mate? Yes. But.

Cant read that link. It wants me to sign up for a subscription. What does it say?

It's too long to post - but does sound legally possible. Here are some excerpts:

The answer seems straightforward. But it is less straightforward than it appears.

Michael Dorf is a professor of constitutional law at Cornell University. In 2000, he argued that an Al Gore-Bill Clinton ticket could withstand legal scrutiny. And when we spoke by phone on Thursday, he said that he stood by that argument.

The rough outline of his argument is this: The 22nd Amendment doesn't say you can't be president for more than two terms. It says you can't be elected president twice. If a Biden-Obama ticket won (which we'll get to), and tragedy were to befall Joe Biden, Barack Obama could become president, according to the letter of the law (which we'll also get to), since he wasn't elected to the position. As such, Obama is not constitutionally ineligible to serve as president.

So, in short: Yes, Joe Biden can name Barack Obama as his running mate. It's even conceivable that, if they won, they could argue their case before Congress to be seated as president and vice president.

AMENDMENT XXII - Passed by Congress March 21, 1947. Ratified February 27, 1951.

Section 1.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.


NO! he can not...

Yes, like I stated above - "elected" is the operative word. Read my link slowly.

The rough outline of his argument is this: The 22nd Amendment doesn't say you can't be president for more than two terms. It says you can't be elected president twice. If a Biden-Obama ticket won (which we'll get to), and tragedy were to befall Joe Biden, Barack Obama could become president, according to the letter of the law (which we'll also get to), since he wasn't elected to the position. As such, Obama is not constitutionally ineligible to serve as president.

DO I need to type S L O W L Y for your dumb ass? HE CAN NOT HOLD THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT. This makes him ineligible to be Biden's running mate as that is a mandatory qualification for the position....

Funny. Can't you read and/or comprehend? Obama could definitely be Vice President - and ascend to the presidency in the event of Biden's death or incapacitation.

 

[Witchit]

Julian Castro, Cory Booker, - there are a lot of names being bandied around, but only a few have actually declared intent.

 

[Lastamender]

This sounds like a great idea to me! It's sinking in! What do you think?

So is that picture of Obama and Farrakhan.

So. David Duke likes him too.

Of course he does.

Do you know what else he does not do? He does not control who likes him or doesn't.
.

 

[Billy_Bob]

As the Twenty-Second Amendment is written, there is nothing to stop a former two-term President from serving again as President, if he achieved that office by any other means than being directly elected to it. The scenario described in the OP could indeed legitimately happen—Biden (or any other candidate) could choose Obama as his running mate, Obama could be thus elected vice President, and then service again as President if the President with whom he ran died or was otherwise removed from office. Obama could also be elected or assigned to other positions within the line of succession, and then rise to the Presidency if all those ahead of him in that line were removed.

It's all possible, and legal, albeit extremely unlikely.

On a related note, there has been one President of this country who was never elected to either the position of President nor Vice-President. I am wondering who else here on this forum knows which President that was, and how he became President.

Wrong:

The 22nd amendment is written in the precise term. As the President and Vice President ARE ELECTED TOGETHER it is an elected position for which he may not be elected to again.

 

[Lastamender]

Cant read that link. It wants me to sign up for a subscription. What does it say?

It's too long to post - but does sound legally possible. Here are some excerpts:

The answer seems straightforward. But it is less straightforward than it appears.

Michael Dorf is a professor of constitutional law at Cornell University. In 2000, he argued that an Al Gore-Bill Clinton ticket could withstand legal scrutiny. And when we spoke by phone on Thursday, he said that he stood by that argument.

The rough outline of his argument is this: The 22nd Amendment doesn't say you can't be president for more than two terms. It says you can't be elected president twice. If a Biden-Obama ticket won (which we'll get to), and tragedy were to befall Joe Biden, Barack Obama could become president, according to the letter of the law (which we'll also get to), since he wasn't elected to the position. As such, Obama is not constitutionally ineligible to serve as president.

So, in short: Yes, Joe Biden can name Barack Obama as his running mate. It's even conceivable that, if they won, they could argue their case before Congress to be seated as president and vice president.

AMENDMENT XXII - Passed by Congress March 21, 1947. Ratified February 27, 1951.

Section 1.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.


NO! he can not...

Yes, like I stated above - "elected" is the operative word. Read my link slowly.

The rough outline of his argument is this: The 22nd Amendment doesn't say you can't be president for more than two terms. It says you can't be elected president twice. If a Biden-Obama ticket won (which we'll get to), and tragedy were to befall Joe Biden, Barack Obama could become president, according to the letter of the law (which we'll also get to), since he wasn't elected to the position. As such, Obama is not constitutionally ineligible to serve as president.

DO I need to type S L O W L Y for your dumb ass? HE CAN NOT HOLD THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT. This makes him ineligible to be Biden's running mate as that is a mandatory qualification for the position....

Funny. Can't you read and/or comprehend?

You have the same problem with the Constitution, as demonstrated a few times on this thread.

 

[Lakhota]

As the Twenty-Second Amendment is written, there is nothing to stop a former two-term President from serving again as President, if he achieved that office by any other means than being directly elected to it. The scenario described in the OP could indeed legitimately happen—Biden (or any other candidate) could choose Obama as his running mate, Obama could be thus elected vice President, and then service again as President if the President with whom he ran died or was otherwise removed from office. Obama could also be elected or assigned to other positions within the line of succession, and then rise to the Presidency if all those ahead of him in that line were removed.

It's all possible, and legal, albeit extremely unlikely.

On a related note, there has been one President of this country who was never elected to either the position of President nor Vice-President. I am wondering who else here on this forum knows which President that was, and how he became President.

Wrong:

The 22nd amendment is written in the precise term. As the President and Vice President ARE ELECTED TOGETHER it is an elected position for which he may not be elected to again.

OMG, I feel sorry for you. You are so wrong. There is nothing preventing Obama from being elected vice president - he just can't ever be ELECTED president again. But he could ascent to the presidency under certain circumstances.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Could Joe Biden pick Barack Obama as his running mate?

No, he cannot. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to serve again as president under any circumstances..

 

[Lakhota]

Could Joe Biden pick Barack Obama as his running mate?

No, he cannot. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to serve again as president under any circumstances..

How so?

 

[BULLDOG]

This sounds like a great idea to me! It's sinking in! What do you think?

So is that picture of Obama and Farrakhan.

So. David Duke likes him too.

Of course he does.

Do you know what else he does not do? He does not control who likes him or doesn't.
.

You're right. Farrakhan and Duke both chose to like him because they approve of the things he embodies. Nothing forced either of them to make that choice.

 

[Witchit]

Yeah, - the dude who says he can is putting forth a theory. It's not actually doable.