Biden’s problem isn't the fact he is a pervert....

[The Purge]

Progressivism feminism is about power, not principle. If Biden continues to be wounded with more allegations and criticisms, it won’t be because people are now “woke” to his long record of groping women. It will be because he’s now in the way of progressive feminists vying for the same job!

 

[Papageorgio]

He needs to stay and fight, I am not a fan of Biden by any means however they are doing to Biden what they tried to do to Kavanaugh and what they did to Franken.

 

[progressive hunter]

He needs to stay and fight, I am not a fan of Biden by any means however they are doing to Biden what they tried to do to Kavanaugh and what they did to Franken.

not true,,,

we have proof biden and franken did it and no proof that Kavanaugh did anything

 

[konradv]

Progressivism feminism is about power, not principle. If Biden continues to be wounded with more allegations and criticisms, it won’t be because people are now “woke” to his long record of groping women. It will be because he’s now in the way of progressive feminists vying for the same job!

He isn't a groper. He's from the old school, kissing-babies generation. Things may have been more hands on, but that doesn't make it assault. Let me know when someone comes forward with a "pussy grabbing" allegation. Even the complainants didn't accuse him of anything sexual, just that they were uncomfortable.

 

[The Purge]

Biden now face the presumption-of-guilt standard that he helped champion.

City Journal ^

Addressing charges that Joe Biden behaved inappropriately toward former Nevada legislator Lucy Flores, a spokesperson for the likely presidential candidate said, “Neither then, nor in the years since, did he or the staff with him at the time have an inkling that Ms. Flores had been at any time uncomfortable, nor do they recall what she describes.” Flores has alleged that, at a 2014 campaign appearance, then-Vice President Biden leaned in behind her, “inhaled” her hair, and “proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head.” She described behavior that’s (at least) creepy, and goes well beyond what could be expected even of a “tactile” politician such as Biden. On the other hand, there appears to be no video of the interaction between Biden and Flores, and no witness has come forth to corroborate her account. As a prominent Bernie Sanders supporter in 2016 who seems eager to back a non-Biden candidate in 2020, Flores might have a political motive to exaggerate her recollection. Going on the evidence that now exists, her charge is hard to evaluate.

According to the standards of culpability that Biden has articulated in similarly conflicted situations, however, it’s an open-and-shut case. Perhaps no major American political figure has so consistently championed the erosion of due process for those accused of sexual misconduct. Even if Flores’s claims might be unprovable, distorted, or simply wrong, changing the culture about sexual misconduct and mistreatment of women requires that we accept her version of events. Biden will now learn firsthand how the mantra of “believe all survivors” has the effect of presuming the guilt of the accused.

Biden has certainly championed this approach for accused college students, as the Obama administration used Title IX to impose guilt-tilting procedures on the nation’s campuses. Until 2016, high-ranking administration officials consistently refused to provide much, if any, explanation on why they imposed a preponderance-of-evidence (a hair over 50 percent) standard; discouraged colleges from granting accused students the right to cross-examination; or demanded that schools let accusers appeal not-guilty findings.

Biden has been the most outspoken senior Obama administration figure to defend these policies. In a 2017 appearance at George Mason University, he framed campus sexual assault as a problem consisting solely of male attackers and female victims: “Guys, a woman who is dead drunk cannot consent—You are raping her! We’ve got to talk about this. Consent requires affirmative consent! . . . If you can’t get her to say ‘yes’ because she wants to, you ain’t much.” He used an interview with Teen Vogue to give a hypothetical address to fraternity members: “If you see a brother taking a drunk freshman coed up the stairs to his room and you do nothing, you’re a coward . . . You know that she’s not able to give consent.”

Biden responded with fury to Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos’s attempts to create fairer procedures for adjudicating campus sexual-assault claims. In a September 2017 conference call with victims’-rights activists, the former vice president derided DeVos’s supporters as “culturally Neanderthals.” Biden’s approach to campus sexual misconduct effectively reverses Blackstone’s central premise of common law: to undo the injustices of the past, this new tenet holds, it is better that 10 innocents suffer than one clearly guilty student escape. If this approach requires a presumption of guilt that sweeps up the innocent and the almost-certainly innocent as well as the guilty, that’s a price that society (and, of course, the innocent) must pay.

Biden’s current situation recalls that of former senator Al Franken, who bitterly criticized DeVos’s Title IX policies, only to flail about in defending himself against allegations (mostly less serious than what Biden faces) of sexual misconduct. Ideologically boxed in, Franken could not defend himself by challenging his accusers’ veracity, lest he appear to reject the party’s consensus about believing all complainants.

In an ideal world, Joe Biden would use his new experience as an accused party to champion fairer treatment across the board. More likely, he’ll fall back on a double standard, demanding that he receive the benefit of the doubt denied to others—especially students with far less power than he possesses.

 

[progressive hunter]

Progressivism feminism is about power, not principle. If Biden continues to be wounded with more allegations and criticisms, it won’t be because people are now “woke” to his long record of groping women. It will be because he’s now in the way of progressive feminists vying for the same job!

He isn't a groper. He's from the old school, kissing-babies generation. Things may have been more hands on, but that doesn't make it assault. Let me know when someone comes forward with a "pussy grabbing" allegation. Even the complainants didn't accuse him of anything sexual, just that they were uncomfortable.

in 54 yrs of life I have never ever once seen a man behave that way when sex wasnt in his mind,,,and I'm a pig

 

[Thinker101]

He needs to stay and fight, I am not a fan of Biden by any means however they are doing to Biden what they tried to do to Kavanaugh and what they did to Franken.

Certainly not a Biden fan myself, there were photographs of Franken, photos and videos of Biden, nothing on Kavanaugh.

 

[progressive hunter]

Biden now face the presumption-of-guilt standard that he helped champion.

City Journal ^

Addressing charges that Joe Biden behaved inappropriately toward former Nevada legislator Lucy Flores, a spokesperson for the likely presidential candidate said, “Neither then, nor in the years since, did he or the staff with him at the time have an inkling that Ms. Flores had been at any time uncomfortable, nor do they recall what she describes.” Flores has alleged that, at a 2014 campaign appearance, then-Vice President Biden leaned in behind her, “inhaled” her hair, and “proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head.” She described behavior that’s (at least) creepy, and goes well beyond what could be expected even of a “tactile” politician such as Biden. On the other hand, there appears to be no video of the interaction between Biden and Flores, and no witness has come forth to corroborate her account. As a prominent Bernie Sanders supporter in 2016 who seems eager to back a non-Biden candidate in 2020, Flores might have a political motive to exaggerate her recollection. Going on the evidence that now exists, her charge is hard to evaluate.

According to the standards of culpability that Biden has articulated in similarly conflicted situations, however, it’s an open-and-shut case. Perhaps no major American political figure has so consistently championed the erosion of due process for those accused of sexual misconduct. Even if Flores’s claims might be unprovable, distorted, or simply wrong, changing the culture about sexual misconduct and mistreatment of women requires that we accept her version of events. Biden will now learn firsthand how the mantra of “believe all survivors” has the effect of presuming the guilt of the accused.

Biden has certainly championed this approach for accused college students, as the Obama administration used Title IX to impose guilt-tilting procedures on the nation’s campuses. Until 2016, high-ranking administration officials consistently refused to provide much, if any, explanation on why they imposed a preponderance-of-evidence (a hair over 50 percent) standard; discouraged colleges from granting accused students the right to cross-examination; or demanded that schools let accusers appeal not-guilty findings.

Biden has been the most outspoken senior Obama administration figure to defend these policies. In a 2017 appearance at George Mason University, he framed campus sexual assault as a problem consisting solely of male attackers and female victims: “Guys, a woman who is dead drunk cannot consent—You are raping her! We’ve got to talk about this. Consent requires affirmative consent! . . . If you can’t get her to say ‘yes’ because she wants to, you ain’t much.” He used an interview with Teen Vogue to give a hypothetical address to fraternity members: “If you see a brother taking a drunk freshman coed up the stairs to his room and you do nothing, you’re a coward . . . You know that she’s not able to give consent.”

Biden responded with fury to Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos’s attempts to create fairer procedures for adjudicating campus sexual-assault claims. In a September 2017 conference call with victims’-rights activists, the former vice president derided DeVos’s supporters as “culturally Neanderthals.” Biden’s approach to campus sexual misconduct effectively reverses Blackstone’s central premise of common law: to undo the injustices of the past, this new tenet holds, it is better that 10 innocents suffer than one clearly guilty student escape. If this approach requires a presumption of guilt that sweeps up the innocent and the almost-certainly innocent as well as the guilty, that’s a price that society (and, of course, the innocent) must pay.

Biden’s current situation recalls that of former senator Al Franken, who bitterly criticized DeVos’s Title IX policies, only to flail about in defending himself against allegations (mostly less serious than what Biden faces) of sexual misconduct. Ideologically boxed in, Franken could not defend himself by challenging his accusers’ veracity, lest he appear to reject the party’s consensus about believing all complainants.

In an ideal world, Joe Biden would use his new experience as an accused party to champion fairer treatment across the board. More likely, he’ll fall back on a double standard, demanding that he receive the benefit of the doubt denied to others—especially students with far less power than he possesses.

its not a presumption when we have picture and video proof,,,this isnt a court of law after all

 

[The Purge]

Biden now face the presumption-of-guilt standard that he helped champion.

City Journal ^

Addressing charges that Joe Biden behaved inappropriately toward former Nevada legislator Lucy Flores, a spokesperson for the likely presidential candidate said, “Neither then, nor in the years since, did he or the staff with him at the time have an inkling that Ms. Flores had been at any time uncomfortable, nor do they recall what she describes.” Flores has alleged that, at a 2014 campaign appearance, then-Vice President Biden leaned in behind her, “inhaled” her hair, and “proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head.” She described behavior that’s (at least) creepy, and goes well beyond what could be expected even of a “tactile” politician such as Biden. On the other hand, there appears to be no video of the interaction between Biden and Flores, and no witness has come forth to corroborate her account. As a prominent Bernie Sanders supporter in 2016 who seems eager to back a non-Biden candidate in 2020, Flores might have a political motive to exaggerate her recollection. Going on the evidence that now exists, her charge is hard to evaluate.

According to the standards of culpability that Biden has articulated in similarly conflicted situations, however, it’s an open-and-shut case. Perhaps no major American political figure has so consistently championed the erosion of due process for those accused of sexual misconduct. Even if Flores’s claims might be unprovable, distorted, or simply wrong, changing the culture about sexual misconduct and mistreatment of women requires that we accept her version of events. Biden will now learn firsthand how the mantra of “believe all survivors” has the effect of presuming the guilt of the accused.

Biden has certainly championed this approach for accused college students, as the Obama administration used Title IX to impose guilt-tilting procedures on the nation’s campuses. Until 2016, high-ranking administration officials consistently refused to provide much, if any, explanation on why they imposed a preponderance-of-evidence (a hair over 50 percent) standard; discouraged colleges from granting accused students the right to cross-examination; or demanded that schools let accusers appeal not-guilty findings.

Biden has been the most outspoken senior Obama administration figure to defend these policies. In a 2017 appearance at George Mason University, he framed campus sexual assault as a problem consisting solely of male attackers and female victims: “Guys, a woman who is dead drunk cannot consent—You are raping her! We’ve got to talk about this. Consent requires affirmative consent! . . . If you can’t get her to say ‘yes’ because she wants to, you ain’t much.” He used an interview with Teen Vogue to give a hypothetical address to fraternity members: “If you see a brother taking a drunk freshman coed up the stairs to his room and you do nothing, you’re a coward . . . You know that she’s not able to give consent.”

Biden responded with fury to Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos’s attempts to create fairer procedures for adjudicating campus sexual-assault claims. In a September 2017 conference call with victims’-rights activists, the former vice president derided DeVos’s supporters as “culturally Neanderthals.” Biden’s approach to campus sexual misconduct effectively reverses Blackstone’s central premise of common law: to undo the injustices of the past, this new tenet holds, it is better that 10 innocents suffer than one clearly guilty student escape. If this approach requires a presumption of guilt that sweeps up the innocent and the almost-certainly innocent as well as the guilty, that’s a price that society (and, of course, the innocent) must pay.

Biden’s current situation recalls that of former senator Al Franken, who bitterly criticized DeVos’s Title IX policies, only to flail about in defending himself against allegations (mostly less serious than what Biden faces) of sexual misconduct. Ideologically boxed in, Franken could not defend himself by challenging his accusers’ veracity, lest he appear to reject the party’s consensus about believing all complainants.

In an ideal world, Joe Biden would use his new experience as an accused party to champion fairer treatment across the board. More likely, he’ll fall back on a double standard, demanding that he receive the benefit of the doubt denied to others—especially students with far less power than he possesses.

its not a presumption when we have picture and video proof,,,this isnt a court of law after all

The left claims you can't believe your lying eyes!

 

[progressive hunter]

Biden now face the presumption-of-guilt standard that he helped champion.

City Journal ^

Addressing charges that Joe Biden behaved inappropriately toward former Nevada legislator Lucy Flores, a spokesperson for the likely presidential candidate said, “Neither then, nor in the years since, did he or the staff with him at the time have an inkling that Ms. Flores had been at any time uncomfortable, nor do they recall what she describes.” Flores has alleged that, at a 2014 campaign appearance, then-Vice President Biden leaned in behind her, “inhaled” her hair, and “proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head.” She described behavior that’s (at least) creepy, and goes well beyond what could be expected even of a “tactile” politician such as Biden. On the other hand, there appears to be no video of the interaction between Biden and Flores, and no witness has come forth to corroborate her account. As a prominent Bernie Sanders supporter in 2016 who seems eager to back a non-Biden candidate in 2020, Flores might have a political motive to exaggerate her recollection. Going on the evidence that now exists, her charge is hard to evaluate.

According to the standards of culpability that Biden has articulated in similarly conflicted situations, however, it’s an open-and-shut case. Perhaps no major American political figure has so consistently championed the erosion of due process for those accused of sexual misconduct. Even if Flores’s claims might be unprovable, distorted, or simply wrong, changing the culture about sexual misconduct and mistreatment of women requires that we accept her version of events. Biden will now learn firsthand how the mantra of “believe all survivors” has the effect of presuming the guilt of the accused.

Biden has certainly championed this approach for accused college students, as the Obama administration used Title IX to impose guilt-tilting procedures on the nation’s campuses. Until 2016, high-ranking administration officials consistently refused to provide much, if any, explanation on why they imposed a preponderance-of-evidence (a hair over 50 percent) standard; discouraged colleges from granting accused students the right to cross-examination; or demanded that schools let accusers appeal not-guilty findings.

Biden has been the most outspoken senior Obama administration figure to defend these policies. In a 2017 appearance at George Mason University, he framed campus sexual assault as a problem consisting solely of male attackers and female victims: “Guys, a woman who is dead drunk cannot consent—You are raping her! We’ve got to talk about this. Consent requires affirmative consent! . . . If you can’t get her to say ‘yes’ because she wants to, you ain’t much.” He used an interview with Teen Vogue to give a hypothetical address to fraternity members: “If you see a brother taking a drunk freshman coed up the stairs to his room and you do nothing, you’re a coward . . . You know that she’s not able to give consent.”

Biden responded with fury to Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos’s attempts to create fairer procedures for adjudicating campus sexual-assault claims. In a September 2017 conference call with victims’-rights activists, the former vice president derided DeVos’s supporters as “culturally Neanderthals.” Biden’s approach to campus sexual misconduct effectively reverses Blackstone’s central premise of common law: to undo the injustices of the past, this new tenet holds, it is better that 10 innocents suffer than one clearly guilty student escape. If this approach requires a presumption of guilt that sweeps up the innocent and the almost-certainly innocent as well as the guilty, that’s a price that society (and, of course, the innocent) must pay.

Biden’s current situation recalls that of former senator Al Franken, who bitterly criticized DeVos’s Title IX policies, only to flail about in defending himself against allegations (mostly less serious than what Biden faces) of sexual misconduct. Ideologically boxed in, Franken could not defend himself by challenging his accusers’ veracity, lest he appear to reject the party’s consensus about believing all complainants.

In an ideal world, Joe Biden would use his new experience as an accused party to champion fairer treatment across the board. More likely, he’ll fall back on a double standard, demanding that he receive the benefit of the doubt denied to others—especially students with far less power than he possesses.

its not a presumption when we have picture and video proof,,,this isnt a court of law after all

The left claims you can't believe your lying eyes!

THE LEFTS NEVE BEEN VERY BRIGHT,,,
you see with your eyes and lie with your mouth

 

[Fang]

He needs to stay and fight, I am not a fan of Biden by any means however they are doing to Biden what they tried to do to Kavanaugh and what they did to Franken.

Except there tons of pictures floating around of Biden getting to touchy. There was a LIBERAL on the radio yesterday saying that just won't fly in 2019. Liberals aren't going to nominate an old white man who has a history of groping women.

 

[Manonthestreet]

The list of women coming forward is growing. Caitlyn Caruso, a former college student and sexual assault survivor, said Mr. Biden rested his hand on her thigh — even as she squirmed in her seat to show her discomfort — and hugged her “just a little bit too long” at an event on sexual assault at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas. She was 19.

Ms. Caruso, now 22, said she chalked up the encounter at the time to how men act, and did not say anything publicly. But she said it was particularly uncomfortable because she had just shared her own story of sexual assault and had expected Mr. Biden — an architect of the 1994 Violence Against Women Act — to understand the importance of physical boundaries.

“It doesn’t even really cross your mind that such a person would dare perpetuate harm like that,” she said. “These are supposed to be people you can trust.” Biden’s Tactile Politics Threaten His Return in the #MeToo Era
Whole time NY TIMES tries to defend him in rest of the article

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Progressivism feminism is about power, not principle. If Biden continues to be wounded with more allegations and criticisms, it won’t be because people are now “woke” to his long record of groping women. It will be because he’s now in the way of progressive feminists vying for the same job!

He isn't a groper. He's from the old school, kissing-babies generation. Things may have been more hands on, but that doesn't make it assault. Let me know when someone comes forward with a "pussy grabbing" allegation. Even the complainants didn't accuse him of anything sexual, just that they were uncomfortable.

Sureeeee.

 

[whitehall]

Biden's problem is serious. Listen to him for God's sake. He says he doesn't remember and he might be surprised at what he hears. Does that sound like a rational man? Sadly, nobody wants to talk about his brain embolisms and the fact that he can't control his urges. He's a democrat though so it doesn't matter. Being a democrat means never having to say you are sorry. Nobody is even talking about credible allegations of rape by the Lt. Governor of Va.

 

[WillPower]

He isn't a groper. He's from the old school, kissing-babies generation. Things may have been more hands on, but that doesn't make it assault. Let me know when someone comes forward with a "pussy grabbing" allegation. Even the complainants didn't accuse him of anything sexual, just that they were uncomfortable.

Holding a woman's shoulders from behind ain't sexual?

 

[progressive hunter]

He isn't a groper. He's from the old school, kissing-babies generation. Things may have been more hands on, but that doesn't make it assault. Let me know when someone comes forward with a "pussy grabbing" allegation. Even the complainants didn't accuse him of anything sexual, just that they were uncomfortable.

Holding a woman's shoulders from behind ain't sexual?

but the reason why is

 

[Rocko]

Biden didn’t do anything wrong. He’s a touchy-feely kind of guy. Some may consider him creepy, but I don’t believe he should get the third degree for what he’s done.

 

[Rocko]

These feminazis are out of control, and this shit needs to stop

 

[Papageorgio]

He needs to stay and fight, I am not a fan of Biden by any means however they are doing to Biden what they tried to do to Kavanaugh and what they did to Franken.

Certainly not a Biden fan myself, there were photographs of Franken, photos and videos of Biden, nothing on Kavanaugh.

I realize in today's world Biden is out of place, however when framed in the context of time, it isn't out of line. One accusation is he hugged a little to long? What the heck does that mean? I hate being hugged except by my wife and kids. I just think it's another way for candidates to be dismissed easily and expeditiously. Franken's photo was over a decade ago and the woman had no problem.

Just have trouble disqualifying people for these things, it seems petty. Am I not being sensitive enough? I'm not sure.

 

[mudwhistle]

He needs to stay and fight, I am not a fan of Biden by any means however they are doing to Biden what they tried to do to Kavanaugh and what they did to Franken.

Biden has had complaints against him by female Secret Service agents saying he likes skinny-dipping in front of them.