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"I believe in balanced budgets and small government. "Define each...oh fuck urself pretend independentIt’s great when one lives in a dictatorship.Yet Asia is seeing postive growthI presume you would agree that every current leader on earth today whose nation is going through this pandemic is the worst leader that nation has ever had.GWB, one of the worst presidents in US history. Bush inherited a balanced budget with a projected stimulus and left with a total financial meltdown and a massive gov deficit shortfall. Add in 2 failed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the failed Katrina respionse and you have a typical GOP presidency... total failure.
Trump, one of the most insane presidents in US history. The Trump Covid "plan"/response will go down as the biggest blunder in the entire history of America... What a feat. On top of that Trump has bankrupted the US government leaving us with crippling deficits and an economy reliant on multi-trillion dollar aid packages.
Which president is the bigger failure, it is a very hard question to answer. I am leaning Bush, but they are both so bad...
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Trump’s Failed Coronavirus Response Part 2
In February he knew COVID-19 was dangerous, but he intentionally downplayed it. In March he didn’t want to be held responsible for it. He told governors they were responsible for getting ventilators...robertreich.org
Why don’t you try it for a few years
LWers
Democrat
Independent
Republican
RWers
For what it's worth, I believe that close to 100% of US tax dollars should be spent in the US and not sent to foreign nations, I believe that Trespassers are illegal, almost all Business Visas are not needed except to lower wages and companies should not be able to write-off the cost of leaving the US.
Define the 5 categories and tell us what you believe.
I believe in balanced budgets and small government. I believe that corporations should be required to pay a living wage to all employees. That includes burger flippers and janitors. I believe universal, single payer health care is a right, not a privilege. And I believe that the government should invest in its people, not its military.
It's from Canada. It doesn't matter."I believe in balanced budgets and small government. "Define each...oh fuck urself pretend independentIt’s great when one lives in a dictatorship.Yet Asia is seeing postive growthI presume you would agree that every current leader on earth today whose nation is going through this pandemic is the worst leader that nation has ever had.GWB, one of the worst presidents in US history. Bush inherited a balanced budget with a projected stimulus and left with a total financial meltdown and a massive gov deficit shortfall. Add in 2 failed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the failed Katrina respionse and you have a typical GOP presidency... total failure.
Trump, one of the most insane presidents in US history. The Trump Covid "plan"/response will go down as the biggest blunder in the entire history of America... What a feat. On top of that Trump has bankrupted the US government leaving us with crippling deficits and an economy reliant on multi-trillion dollar aid packages.
Which president is the bigger failure, it is a very hard question to answer. I am leaning Bush, but they are both so bad...
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Trump’s Failed Coronavirus Response Part 2
In February he knew COVID-19 was dangerous, but he intentionally downplayed it. In March he didn’t want to be held responsible for it. He told governors they were responsible for getting ventilators...robertreich.org
Why don’t you try it for a few years
LWers
Democrat
Independent
Republican
RWers
For what it's worth, I believe that close to 100% of US tax dollars should be spent in the US and not sent to foreign nations, I believe that Trespassers are illegal, almost all Business Visas are not needed except to lower wages and companies should not be able to write-off the cost of leaving the US.
Define the 5 categories and tell us what you believe.
I believe in balanced budgets and small government. I believe that corporations should be required to pay a living wage to all employees. That includes burger flippers and janitors. I believe universal, single payer health care is a right, not a privilege. And I believe that the government should invest in its people, not its military.
No you don't
You mean Big league I realize retarded people can't comprehend what someone saysI don’t vote. It clearly means nothing. JFK is my favorite. All the others suck.LOL. I get that fence sitting criticism a lot here. It’s what partisans of the two criminal gangs do. It’s not even close to accurate. I’m not on the fence at all. I know both gangs suck. Too bad you’re not enlightened like I am.No. W worst. O even worse. Dumb Don really bad.GWB, one of the worst presidents in US history. Bush inherited a balanced budget with a projected stimulus and left with a total financial meltdown and a massive gov deficit shortfall. Add in 2 failed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the failed Katrina respionse and you have a typical GOP presidency... total failure.
Trump, one of the most insane presidents in US history. The Trump Covid "plan"/response will go down as the biggest blunder in the entire history of America... What a feat. On top of that Trump has bankrupted the US government leaving us with crippling deficits and an economy reliant on multi-trillion dollar aid packages.
Which president is the bigger failure, it is a very hard question to answer. I am leaning Bush, but they are both so bad...
![]()
Trump’s Failed Coronavirus Response Part 2
In February he knew COVID-19 was dangerous, but he intentionally downplayed it. In March he didn’t want to be held responsible for it. He told governors they were responsible for getting ventilators...robertreich.org
You're an equal opportunity politician hater Gip. But be careful not to get splinters in yer butt from that fence you're sitting on.![]()
Well, who did you vote for in 2020 and in your lifetime, who was your favorite president?
Voting means nothing? Man, you really are disillusioned. However, we can agree on JFK. I was too young to assess him at the time but later in life, I've come to the same conclusion.
My pop was civil service at Pt Mugu in SoCal. Because of that, my family got right up front in the rope line when he landed in a helicopter and made a short speech. Pretty cool to have shaken his hand at the age of 5 in 1962.
Voting is a total waste of time and you’re delusional to think otherwise. In the last half century nothing would be fundamentally different, if the loser had won. As we see now, senile Biden won’t do much different from dumb Don.
Please dispute the following...
Trump, like all Presidents, has fulfilled the two critical jobs expected of him, protecting Wall Street and the military budget.
Seems pretty cynical to suggest that presidents are all the same and protecting Wall Street and the military industrial complex are all they've done. Many presidents have changed the course of history. The current one for the WORSE - BIGLY at that!
the President is playing in the big leagues while you'll still be playing special Olympics
Better kick in to his slush fund - Yes, Bigly OR Big League .. your choice.
*Side note: He doesn't have the best words so who knows WTF he's trying to say?
Trump is functionally illiterate
He thinks Bigly is a word
actually dumbass you think it's a word because president trump never said bigly
Sure he did
Multiple times
Big League is not a phrase
OK IF HEALTH CARE IS A RIGHT i GET TO DICTATE YOUR HEALTHY LIFE STYLE BECAUSE i AS A TAX PAYER WILL BE FUNDING IT.Define each...oh fuck urself pretend independentIt’s great when one lives in a dictatorship.Yet Asia is seeing postive growthI presume you would agree that every current leader on earth today whose nation is going through this pandemic is the worst leader that nation has ever had.GWB, one of the worst presidents in US history. Bush inherited a balanced budget with a projected stimulus and left with a total financial meltdown and a massive gov deficit shortfall. Add in 2 failed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the failed Katrina respionse and you have a typical GOP presidency... total failure.
Trump, one of the most insane presidents in US history. The Trump Covid "plan"/response will go down as the biggest blunder in the entire history of America... What a feat. On top of that Trump has bankrupted the US government leaving us with crippling deficits and an economy reliant on multi-trillion dollar aid packages.
Which president is the bigger failure, it is a very hard question to answer. I am leaning Bush, but they are both so bad...
![]()
Trump’s Failed Coronavirus Response Part 2
In February he knew COVID-19 was dangerous, but he intentionally downplayed it. In March he didn’t want to be held responsible for it. He told governors they were responsible for getting ventilators...robertreich.org
Why don’t you try it for a few years
LWers
Democrat
Independent
Republican
RWers
For what it's worth, I believe that close to 100% of US tax dollars should be spent in the US and not sent to foreign nations, I believe that Trespassers are illegal, almost all Business Visas are not needed except to lower wages and companies should not be able to write-off the cost of leaving the US.
Define the 5 categories and tell us what you believe.
I believe in balanced budgets and small government. I believe that corporations should be required to pay a living wage to all employees. That includes burger flippers and janitors. I believe universal, single payer health care is a right, not a privilege. And I believe that the government should invest in its people, not its military.
You mean Big league I realize retarded people can't comprehend what someone saysI don’t vote. It clearly means nothing. JFK is my favorite. All the others suck.LOL. I get that fence sitting criticism a lot here. It’s what partisans of the two criminal gangs do. It’s not even close to accurate. I’m not on the fence at all. I know both gangs suck. Too bad you’re not enlightened like I am.No. W worst. O even worse. Dumb Don really bad.GWB, one of the worst presidents in US history. Bush inherited a balanced budget with a projected stimulus and left with a total financial meltdown and a massive gov deficit shortfall. Add in 2 failed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the failed Katrina respionse and you have a typical GOP presidency... total failure.
Trump, one of the most insane presidents in US history. The Trump Covid "plan"/response will go down as the biggest blunder in the entire history of America... What a feat. On top of that Trump has bankrupted the US government leaving us with crippling deficits and an economy reliant on multi-trillion dollar aid packages.
Which president is the bigger failure, it is a very hard question to answer. I am leaning Bush, but they are both so bad...
![]()
Trump’s Failed Coronavirus Response Part 2
In February he knew COVID-19 was dangerous, but he intentionally downplayed it. In March he didn’t want to be held responsible for it. He told governors they were responsible for getting ventilators...robertreich.org
You're an equal opportunity politician hater Gip. But be careful not to get splinters in yer butt from that fence you're sitting on.![]()
Well, who did you vote for in 2020 and in your lifetime, who was your favorite president?
Voting means nothing? Man, you really are disillusioned. However, we can agree on JFK. I was too young to assess him at the time but later in life, I've come to the same conclusion.
My pop was civil service at Pt Mugu in SoCal. Because of that, my family got right up front in the rope line when he landed in a helicopter and made a short speech. Pretty cool to have shaken his hand at the age of 5 in 1962.
Voting is a total waste of time and you’re delusional to think otherwise. In the last half century nothing would be fundamentally different, if the loser had won. As we see now, senile Biden won’t do much different from dumb Don.
Please dispute the following...
Trump, like all Presidents, has fulfilled the two critical jobs expected of him, protecting Wall Street and the military budget.
Seems pretty cynical to suggest that presidents are all the same and protecting Wall Street and the military industrial complex are all they've done. Many presidents have changed the course of history. The current one for the WORSE - BIGLY at that!
the President is playing in the big leagues while you'll still be playing special Olympics
Better kick in to his slush fund - Yes, Bigly OR Big League .. your choice.
*Side note: He doesn't have the best words so who knows WTF he's trying to say?
Trump is functionally illiterate
He thinks Bigly is a word
actually dumbass you think it's a word because president trump never said bigly
Sure he did
Multiple times
Big League is not a phrase
maybe you should tell those who have been using the words, big league, for generations it's not a phrase
It's been used since the 1800s
The disaster of stupidity.What "disaster" did Trump create?marty mcfly? LOL. imo, only Trump and W altered history for the worse. Reagan ... his influence in republics in europe has stalled. None appreciated the danger of china. History's verdict on Obama is still out. Trump and the disater he created was reaction to the fact Obama got elected, imo. Not every person who voted for Trump is a racist. I voted for him in a primaryTell me a potus who in the last 50 years changed history for the better?I don’t vote. It clearly means nothing. JFK is my favorite. All the others suck.LOL. I get that fence sitting criticism a lot here. It’s what partisans of the two criminal gangs do. It’s not even close to accurate. I’m not on the fence at all. I know both gangs suck. Too bad you’re not enlightened like I am.No. W worst. O even worse. Dumb Don really bad.GWB, one of the worst presidents in US history. Bush inherited a balanced budget with a projected stimulus and left with a total financial meltdown and a massive gov deficit shortfall. Add in 2 failed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the failed Katrina respionse and you have a typical GOP presidency... total failure.
Trump, one of the most insane presidents in US history. The Trump Covid "plan"/response will go down as the biggest blunder in the entire history of America... What a feat. On top of that Trump has bankrupted the US government leaving us with crippling deficits and an economy reliant on multi-trillion dollar aid packages.
Which president is the bigger failure, it is a very hard question to answer. I am leaning Bush, but they are both so bad...
![]()
Trump’s Failed Coronavirus Response Part 2
In February he knew COVID-19 was dangerous, but he intentionally downplayed it. In March he didn’t want to be held responsible for it. He told governors they were responsible for getting ventilators...robertreich.org
You're an equal opportunity politician hater Gip. But be careful not to get splinters in yer butt from that fence you're sitting on.![]()
Well, who did you vote for in 2020 and in your lifetime, who was your favorite president?
Voting means nothing? Man, you really are disillusioned. However, we can agree on JFK. I was too young to assess him at the time but later in life, I've come to the same conclusion.
My pop was civil service at Pt Mugu in SoCal. Because of that, my family got right up front in the rope line when he landed in a helicopter and made a short speech. Pretty cool to have shaken his hand at the age of 5 in 1962.
Voting is a total waste of time and you’re delusional to think otherwise. In the last half century nothing would be fundamentally different, if the loser had won. As we see now, senile Biden won’t do much different from dumb Don.
Please dispute the following...
Trump, like all Presidents, has fulfilled the two critical jobs expected of him, protecting Wall Street and the military budget.
Seems pretty cynical to suggest that presidents are all the same and protecting Wall Street and the military industrial complex are all they've done. Many presidents have changed the course of history. The current one for the WORSE - BIGLY at that!
O was an awful disaster. A phony fraud and terrible war criminal. Admit it.marty mcfly? LOL. imo, only Trump and W altered history for the worse. Reagan ... his influence in republics in europe has stalled. None appreciated the danger of china. History's verdict on Obama is still out. Trump and the disater he created was reaction to the fact Obama got elected, imo. Not every person who voted for Trump is a racist. I voted for him in a primaryTell me a potus who in the last 50 years changed history for the better?I don’t vote. It clearly means nothing. JFK is my favorite. All the others suck.LOL. I get that fence sitting criticism a lot here. It’s what partisans of the two criminal gangs do. It’s not even close to accurate. I’m not on the fence at all. I know both gangs suck. Too bad you’re not enlightened like I am.No. W worst. O even worse. Dumb Don really bad.GWB, one of the worst presidents in US history. Bush inherited a balanced budget with a projected stimulus and left with a total financial meltdown and a massive gov deficit shortfall. Add in 2 failed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the failed Katrina respionse and you have a typical GOP presidency... total failure.
Trump, one of the most insane presidents in US history. The Trump Covid "plan"/response will go down as the biggest blunder in the entire history of America... What a feat. On top of that Trump has bankrupted the US government leaving us with crippling deficits and an economy reliant on multi-trillion dollar aid packages.
Which president is the bigger failure, it is a very hard question to answer. I am leaning Bush, but they are both so bad...
![]()
Trump’s Failed Coronavirus Response Part 2
In February he knew COVID-19 was dangerous, but he intentionally downplayed it. In March he didn’t want to be held responsible for it. He told governors they were responsible for getting ventilators...robertreich.org
You're an equal opportunity politician hater Gip. But be careful not to get splinters in yer butt from that fence you're sitting on.![]()
Well, who did you vote for in 2020 and in your lifetime, who was your favorite president?
Voting means nothing? Man, you really are disillusioned. However, we can agree on JFK. I was too young to assess him at the time but later in life, I've come to the same conclusion.
My pop was civil service at Pt Mugu in SoCal. Because of that, my family got right up front in the rope line when he landed in a helicopter and made a short speech. Pretty cool to have shaken his hand at the age of 5 in 1962.
Voting is a total waste of time and you’re delusional to think otherwise. In the last half century nothing would be fundamentally different, if the loser had won. As we see now, senile Biden won’t do much different from dumb Don.
Please dispute the following...
Trump, like all Presidents, has fulfilled the two critical jobs expected of him, protecting Wall Street and the military budget.
Seems pretty cynical to suggest that presidents are all the same and protecting Wall Street and the military industrial complex are all they've done. Many presidents have changed the course of history. The current one for the WORSE - BIGLY at that!
GWB, one of the worst presidents in US history. Bush inherited a balanced budget with a projected stimulus and left with a total financial meltdown and a massive gov deficit shortfall. Add in 2 failed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the failed Katrina respionse and you have a typical GOP presidency... total failure.
Trump, one of the most insane presidents in US history. The Trump Covid "plan"/response will go down as the biggest blunder in the entire history of America... What a feat. On top of that Trump has bankrupted the US government leaving us with crippling deficits and an economy reliant on multi-trillion dollar aid packages.
Which president is the bigger failure, it is a very hard question to answer. I am leaning Bush, but they are both so bad...
![]()
Trump’s Failed Coronavirus Response Part 2
In February he knew COVID-19 was dangerous, but he intentionally downplayed it. In March he didn’t want to be held responsible for it. He told governors they were responsible for getting ventilators...robertreich.org
GWB--hands down. But, if we are going to included the wars here and that is what we are using then it should be brought up there were 6 countries that were bombed under Obama's watch.
At some point this lie about Trump being a peaceful president needs to stop.
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US Bombing of Afghanistan Hits 10-Year High
American warplanes dropped more bombs on Afghanistan in 2019 than at any other time in at least a decade, according to the U.S. Air Force, as Washington intensified attacks in the country during withdrawal talks with the Taliban.www.courthousenews.com
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Trump who vowed to end wars has dropped more bombs than Bush or Obama - 2LT News
On June 13, President Donald Trump told the graduating class at West Point, “We are ending the era of endless wars.” That is what Trump has promised since 2016, but the “endless” wars have not ended. Trump has dropped more bombs and missiles than George W. Bush or Barack Obama did in their first...www.2lt.com.au
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Donald Trump Is Dropping Bombs at Unprecedented Levels
The candidate who once warned America about Hillary Clinton's hawkishness is turning into a war machine.foreignpolicy.com
Additionally, where we would automatically nail Bush II on things such as the use of faith based organizations receiving funding then we would have to go back to what was happening under Clinton and the Charitable Choice Act of 1996 which was also promoted by Obama. Heavily.
This is teeny, tiny small potatoes. Are faith based charities generally speaking bad? I don't think so and I'm an atheist.
And if we really wanted to get serious on the absolute worst president why are we not looking at Jimmy Carter's directive from 1973 to provide secret aid to the opponents of pro-Soviet forces in Afghanistan.
I love the shallow thinking involved in this game.
We could talk about the Taliban and Reagan, what are your thoughts on that?
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In hindsight all presidents make mistakes or make the wrong choices, that's a given. We're talking next level shit here so please, we don't need a laundry list of past presidents' errors to dilute the poison of the last two Republican presidents
Can you show me where I made the claim that Trump was a peaceful anything? No?
Grow up. What you don't want is a laundry list of past presidents simply because those would incorporate those from the Democratic Party. It really is that damn simple.
Faith based organizations go over the line of separation of church and state. The fall out then shows up when those organizations or even sainted hospitals that refuse to provide specific surgeries or provide something as simple as birth control based on the church views which are supposed to be separate from the hospital or charity utilize propaganda acting as if the churches themselves are losing said "freedoms".
We can spend all day on Reagan and the Peshawar Seven. I'm not afraid.
What negative lasting effect did Carter have? And he embraced monatarism before Reagan, began cutting taxes. He issued clemency to vietnam protestors in Canada. Carter was ineffectual more often than not
Up till now, I would have said Bush was the worst President.
Even though Trump was far less qualified to be President and acted like a complete asshole, he didn’t do anything really horrible.
Bush started two unnecessary wars after 9-11, engaged in torture and led us to the worst economic collapse in 75 years.
Hard to do worse.
Trump acted like a spoiled child but the economy was strong. Then COVID hit and he proved to be the worst possible leader in a crisis. His behavior and decisions cost a hundred thousand lives. His once vaunted economy collapsed.
Then he showed why he is the worst president in modern history with his temper tantrum over losing the election and preference to destroy the country rather than graciously transfer power.
Imo W is more of a well meaning frat boy misled by the Bloody Dwarf (cheney) STALIN JOKE THEREHistory may eventually forgive George W Bush but will not be kind to Donald John Trump
He will go down in history as the man least suited emotionally, morally and intellectually to be PresidentIm
W and O were much worse. They mass murdered far more people than dumb Don.History may eventually forgive George W Bush but will not be kind to Donald John Trump
He will go down in history as the man least suited emotionally, morally and intellectually to be President
Trump has killed 325,000 and countingW and O were much worse. They mass murdered far more people than dumb Don.History may eventually forgive George W Bush but will not be kind to Donald John Trump
He will go down in history as the man least suited emotionally, morally and intellectually to be President
Brez's final comment is that Carter's actions in Afghan did not start global jihad. And bin laden's motivations were unrelated to Afghan and Russia.What negative lasting effect did Carter have? And he embraced monatarism before Reagan, began cutting taxes. He issued clemency to vietnam protestors in Canada. Carter was ineffectual more often than not![]()
“I Could Live With That”: How the CIA Made Afghanistan Safe for the Opium Trade
Jimmy Carter later confessed in his memoirs that he was more shaken by the invasion of Afghanistan than any other event of his presidency, including the Iranian revolution. Carter was convinced by the CIA that it could be the start of a push by the Soviets toward the Persian Gulf, a scenario...www.counterpunch.org
CRG -- The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan
archives.globalresearch.ca
W and O were much worse. They mass murdered far more people than dumb Don.History may eventually forgive George W Bush but will not be kind to Donald John Trump
He will go down in history as the man least suited emotionally, morally and intellectually to be President
Although neither of these men were good presidents there is major difference between them.GWB, one of the worst presidents in US history. Bush inherited a balanced budget with a projected stimulus and left with a total financial meltdown and a massive gov deficit shortfall. Add in 2 failed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the failed Katrina respionse and you have a typical GOP presidency... total failure.
Trump, one of the most insane presidents in US history. The Trump Covid "plan"/response will go down as the biggest blunder in the entire history of America... What a feat. On top of that Trump has bankrupted the US government leaving us with crippling deficits and an economy reliant on multi-trillion dollar aid packages.
Which president is the bigger failure, it is a very hard question to answer. I am leaning Bush, but they are both so bad...
![]()
Trump’s Failed Coronavirus Response Part 2
In February he knew COVID-19 was dangerous, but he intentionally downplayed it. In March he didn’t want to be held responsible for it. He told governors they were responsible for getting ventilators...robertreich.org