Bill O’Reilly and Andrea Tantaros misconstrue 14th Amendment and “equal protection of the laws”.

[The Rabbi]

This evening Bill O’Reilly and Andrea Tantaros with respect to “gay” [homosexual] marriages, suggested the 14th Amendment requires the equal protection of the law. What the 14th Amendment actually requires is, whatever law a state adopts with regard to a state issued marriage license, "no person" [singular] may be denied the equal protection of that law. But if a state makes a license law which makes a distinction based upon race, color or former condition of slavery, the expressed legislative intent of the 14th Amendment was to prohibit such a distinction.

The 14A does not mention, much less deal with, marriage. So your point is wrong from the start.
And there is no discrimination or lack of equality. All men are free to marry any woman, and vice versa. There is no "hetero test" to get married.

All men were once free to marry any woman of the same race, and vice versa. Doesn't that mean the Supreme Court ruled wrongly in declaring miscegenation laws unconstitutional?

Its not even worth rehashing that tired old discredited argument. Just give it up, okay? gays arent Negroes. They just arent.

 

[kaz]

This evening Bill O’Reilly and Andrea Tantaros with respect to “gay” [homosexual] marriages, suggested the 14th Amendment requires the equal protection of the law. What the 14th Amendment actually requires is, whatever law a state adopts with regard to a state issued marriage license, "no person" [singular] may be denied the equal protection of that law. But if a state makes a license law which makes a distinction based upon race, color or former condition of slavery, the expressed legislative intent of the 14th Amendment was to prohibit such a distinction.

The 14A does not mention, much less deal with, marriage. So your point is wrong from the start.
And there is no discrimination or lack of equality. All men are free to marry any woman, and vice versa. There is no "hetero test" to get married.

My point is wrong? What I have stated is factually correct, contrary to you absurd response.


JWK

Being black changed who you could marry. Being gay did not. Thread fail, the end

 

[bodecea]

That's OK. Nobody says you have to like it, You just have to do it. Give everybody the same rights.

everybody has the same rights. gay marriage is NOT a right.

BTW. Andrea is HOT. (just trying to stir up the lesbians)

Straight marriage isn't a right then either.

true. there is not a single mention of marriage in the constitution, the bill of rights, or any of our founding documents.

if you want marriage of any type to be a right, the pass a constitutional amendment.

if you do such an amendment, would you prohibit multiple marriages? if so, on what basis?

But they do tend to speak about equal protection of the laws

Kind of covers everything

gays have equal protection under the laws. which laws do not apply to gays?

gay men can marry, gay women can marry.

two man, straight or gay, not a marriage
two women, straight or gay, not a marriage.

That is no longer true.....just like saying that a black man is not a citizen is no longer true.

 

[kaz]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ You left loons keep squawking the same thing over and over....then wonder why normal people look at you and roll their eyes.

Sad isn't it?

There was a time when Government actually paid attention to your fag hating rants

Yeah, who needs a fag hating rant? WTF is up with that? Let's focus our hate where it belongs on achievers and businesses

 

[Redfish]

everybody has the same rights. gay marriage is NOT a right.

BTW. Andrea is HOT. (just trying to stir up the lesbians)

Straight marriage isn't a right then either.

true. there is not a single mention of marriage in the constitution, the bill of rights, or any of our founding documents.

if you want marriage of any type to be a right, the pass a constitutional amendment.

if you do such an amendment, would you prohibit multiple marriages? if so, on what basis?

But they do tend to speak about equal protection of the laws

Kind of covers everything

gays have equal protection under the laws. which laws do not apply to gays?

gay men can marry, gay women can marry.

two man, straight or gay, not a marriage
two women, straight or gay, not a marriage.

That is no longer true.....just like saying that a black man is not a citizen is no longer true.

nice try, but once again. Gay is not a race.

 

[bodecea]

This evening Bill O’Reilly and Andrea Tantaros with respect to “gay” [homosexual] marriages, suggested the 14th Amendment requires the equal protection of the law. What the 14th Amendment actually requires is, whatever law a state adopts with regard to a state issued marriage license, "no person" [singular] may be denied the equal protection of that law. But if a state makes a license law which makes a distinction based upon race, color or former condition of slavery, the expressed legislative intent of the 14th Amendment was to prohibit such a distinction.

The 14A does not mention, much less deal with, marriage. So your point is wrong from the start.
And there is no discrimination or lack of equality. All men are free to marry any woman, and vice versa. There is no "hetero test" to get married.

All men were once free to marry any woman of the same race, and vice versa. Doesn't that mean the Supreme Court ruled wrongly in declaring miscegenation laws unconstitutional?

Its not even worth rehashing that tired old discredited argument. Just give it up, okay? gays arent Negroes. They just arent.

Who has said they are?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Oh lookie, a thread that hits all the talking points. Fags, Fox News & O'Reilly.

 

[bodecea]

Straight marriage isn't a right then either.

true. there is not a single mention of marriage in the constitution, the bill of rights, or any of our founding documents.

if you want marriage of any type to be a right, the pass a constitutional amendment.

if you do such an amendment, would you prohibit multiple marriages? if so, on what basis?

But they do tend to speak about equal protection of the laws

Kind of covers everything

gays have equal protection under the laws. which laws do not apply to gays?

gay men can marry, gay women can marry.

two man, straight or gay, not a marriage
two women, straight or gay, not a marriage.

That is no longer true.....just like saying that a black man is not a citizen is no longer true.

nice try, but once again. Gay is not a race.

Who said it is?

 

[Redfish]

This evening Bill O’Reilly and Andrea Tantaros with respect to “gay” [homosexual] marriages, suggested the 14th Amendment requires the equal protection of the law. What the 14th Amendment actually requires is, whatever law a state adopts with regard to a state issued marriage license, "no person" [singular] may be denied the equal protection of that law. But if a state makes a license law which makes a distinction based upon race, color or former condition of slavery, the expressed legislative intent of the 14th Amendment was to prohibit such a distinction.

The 14A does not mention, much less deal with, marriage. So your point is wrong from the start.
And there is no discrimination or lack of equality. All men are free to marry any woman, and vice versa. There is no "hetero test" to get married.

My point is wrong? What I have stated is factually correct, contrary to you absurd response.


JWK

Being black changed who you could marry. Being gay did not. Thread fail, the end

agree, all of these gay threads run the same course with the same old tired failed arguments from the left. Its a waste of time and typing skills to participate in them.

 

[Redfish]

true. there is not a single mention of marriage in the constitution, the bill of rights, or any of our founding documents.

if you want marriage of any type to be a right, the pass a constitutional amendment.

if you do such an amendment, would you prohibit multiple marriages? if so, on what basis?

But they do tend to speak about equal protection of the laws

Kind of covers everything

gays have equal protection under the laws. which laws do not apply to gays?

gay men can marry, gay women can marry.

two man, straight or gay, not a marriage
two women, straight or gay, not a marriage.

That is no longer true.....just like saying that a black man is not a citizen is no longer true.

nice try, but once again. Gay is not a race.

Who said it is?

YOU DO, you keep trying to make a case for gay marriage using the Loving case as a precedent. It doesn't work.

 

[Theowl32]

anyone else tired of hearing about homosexual marrying, bill O'Reilly and Fox news?

We should really shut down these threads. How many times can you repeat the same old arguments?

this board is being overrun with dumb stuff. I just shut off the other person with his bill O'reilly crap

Every last talking point brought up by left wingers are stupid. Name one that is not.

Man made global warming? Ridiculous.
Transgenders in the military? Yeah, real big problem
Men and women bathrooms separated? Sheesh.

All of their topics, every last one of them, are utter wastes of time. Then you get to their responses.

 

[g5000]

In fact, the Equal Rights Amendment which would have forbidden distinctions based upon sex was specifically rejected and one of the reasons for its rejection was because if it were adopted it would lead to same sex marriages.

Nope. My very first political speech was in opposition to the ERA. Same sex marriage was never brought up during the ERA debates.

Women in combat was usually at the top of the list of things that would happen should ERA pass. The banning of men-only clubs was another.

I never heard anyone say it would lead to same sex marriage.

 

[rightwinger]

That's OK. Nobody says you have to like it, You just have to do it. Give everybody the same rights.

everybody has the same rights. gay marriage is NOT a right.

BTW. Andrea is HOT. (just trying to stir up the lesbians)

Straight marriage isn't a right then either.

true. there is not a single mention of marriage in the constitution, the bill of rights, or any of our founding documents.

if you want marriage of any type to be a right, the pass a constitutional amendment.

if you do such an amendment, would you prohibit multiple marriages? if so, on what basis?

But they do tend to speak about equal protection of the laws

Kind of covers everything

gays have equal protection under the laws. which laws do not apply to gays?

gay men can marry, gay women can marry.

two man, straight or gay, not a marriage
two women, straight or gay, not a marriage.

When states pass laws that specifically exclude gays they violate the Constitution

Your "Gays can marry people of the opposite sex" is laughable

It was never even brought up in arguments before the Supreme Court...they knew they would be mocked by the judges

 

[g5000]

The 14A does not mention, much less deal with, marriage. So your point is wrong from the start.
And there is no discrimination or lack of equality. All men are free to marry any woman, and vice versa. There is no "hetero test" to get married.

You know all those government cash and prizes you get for being married? How do you think those were established?

By law.

That's why "equal protection of the laws" is relevant to marriage LAWS.

 

[NoNukes]

All the problems in the world and the left thinks homo marriage is the most important issue. Get pretend married and shut the hell up already

It will all be over in a few months and then people will forget that there was a time people actually opposed gay marriage

What were they thinking?

I'll never accept they are "married", with that said let them pretend, just keep it away from our children, life is hard enough without a bunch of confused misfits mucking it up even more

There will always be dinosaurs around.

 

[NoNukes]

All the problems in the world and the left thinks homo marriage is the most important issue. Get pretend married and shut the hell up already

It will all be over in a few months and then people will forget that there was a time people actually opposed gay marriage

What were they thinking?

I'll never accept they are "married", with that said let them pretend, just keep it away from our children, life is hard enough without a bunch of confused misfits mucking it up even more

Nobody says you have to

You are allowed to hate anyone you wish. You just can't expect the government to accomodate your hatred

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ You left loons keep squawking the same thing over and over....then wonder why normal people look at you and roll their eyes.

I suppose YOU are normal.

Where in Ireland are you from?

 

[The Rabbi]

The 14A does not mention, much less deal with, marriage. So your point is wrong from the start.
And there is no discrimination or lack of equality. All men are free to marry any woman, and vice versa. There is no "hetero test" to get married.

You know all those government cash and prizes you get for being married? How do you think those were established?

By law.

That's why "equal protection of the laws" is relevant to marriage LAWS.

Thanks.
Same argument can be made for farm subsidies. WHere are my subsidies, yo? It's discirmination, I tell ya.

 

[The Rabbi]

anyone else tired of hearing about homosexual marrying, bill O'Reilly and Fox news?

We should really shut down these threads. How many times can you repeat the same old arguments?

this board is being overrun with dumb stuff. I just shut off the other person with his bill O'reilly crap

Every last talking point brought up by left wingers are stupid. Name one that is not.

Man made global warming? Ridiculous.
Transgenders in the military? Yeah, real big problem
Men and women bathrooms separated? Sheesh.

All of their topics, every last one of them, are utter wastes of time. Then you get to their responses.

Because after the Civil Rights movement and Vietnam they never really had a just cause. So they've spent the last 40 years trying to convince people that whatever latest fad they're pushing is the new Civil Rights Movement or the new anti Vietnam War protest. And they arent, which is why they look like dolts.

 

[Redfish]

everybody has the same rights. gay marriage is NOT a right.

BTW. Andrea is HOT. (just trying to stir up the lesbians)

Straight marriage isn't a right then either.

true. there is not a single mention of marriage in the constitution, the bill of rights, or any of our founding documents.

if you want marriage of any type to be a right, the pass a constitutional amendment.

if you do such an amendment, would you prohibit multiple marriages? if so, on what basis?

But they do tend to speak about equal protection of the laws

Kind of covers everything

gays have equal protection under the laws. which laws do not apply to gays?

gay men can marry, gay women can marry.

two man, straight or gay, not a marriage
two women, straight or gay, not a marriage.

When states pass laws that specifically exclude gays they violate the Constitution

Your "Gays can marry people of the opposite sex" is laughable

It was never even brought up in arguments before the Supreme Court...they knew they would be mocked by the judges

so they are also violating the constitution when they pass laws that 4 people cannot marry, or you can't marry your sibling or your parent, right?

your argument always falls apart when you try to take it to the next logical step.

 

[g5000]

The 14A does not mention, much less deal with, marriage. So your point is wrong from the start.
And there is no discrimination or lack of equality. All men are free to marry any woman, and vice versa. There is no "hetero test" to get married.

You know all those government cash and prizes you get for being married? How do you think those were established?

By law.

That's why "equal protection of the laws" is relevant to marriage LAWS.

Thanks.
Same argument can be made for farm subsidies. WHere are my subsidies, yo? It's discirmination, I tell ya.

If you were a gay farmer and were denied subsidies because you were gay, you would have a case.

And you do get subsidies...yo. Deductions, credits, exemptions. You get more government gifts than someone on food stamps...yo.