Boehner Caves....

Facing cratering poll numbers Republicans are capitulating on raising the debt ceiling and opening the government back up.

Congressional staffers are working out the details overnight.

All 46 Republican Senators are meeting with Obama on Friday.
 
Obama is doing them a favor by agreeing to speak with them.

[MENTION=18645]Sarah G[/MENTION]

President Obama is doing the House of Representatives a 'favor' to speak with them?

Sarah, you are smarter than this.

President Obama is doing his job. The job he was elected to do.

Part of President Obama's job is to be diplomatic and compromise for the good of every citizen in this country.

Part of President Obama's job is to meet with the House and Senate in order to iron out differences.
 
I thought Obama wasn't going to negotiate with "terrorists". Looks like he's the one folding.
 
A six week extension on the debt ceiling isn't surrender.

Republicans approval rating in the latest WSJ/NBC poll was 24%

In Gallup it was 28%, the lowest rating of any major party in Gallup's history.

Even the Koch brothers have bailed on the ridiculous spectacle of shutting down the government and sending us into default by not raising the debt ceiling.

The look on Boehner's face tonight was priceless.
 
I thought Obama wasn't going to negotiate with "terrorists". Looks like he's the one folding.

Wrong.

Obamacare is fully funded.

Republicans are folding because their approval rating cratered to 24%.
 
A six week extension on the debt ceiling isn't surrender.

Republicans approval rating in the latest WSJ/NBC poll was 24%

In Gallup it was 28%, the lowest rating of any major party in Gallup's history.

Even the Koch brothers have bailed on the ridiculous spectacle of shutting down the government and sending us into default by not raising the debt ceiling.

The look on Boehner's face tonight was priceless.

Obama's approval rating is 37%. Your point? Funny how I never hear of the Koch Brothers on either side of the debate, it's people like you spouting that nonsense.
 
A six week extension on the debt ceiling isn't surrender.

Republicans approval rating in the latest WSJ/NBC poll was 24%

In Gallup it was 28%, the lowest rating of any major party in Gallup's history.

Even the Koch brothers have bailed on the ridiculous spectacle of shutting down the government and sending us into default by not raising the debt ceiling.

The look on Boehner's face tonight was priceless.

Obama's approval rating is 37%. Your point? Funny how I never hear of the Koch Brothers on either side of the debate, it's people like you spouting that nonsense.

Charles and David Koch, the billionaires who bankroll Republican causes and candidates, have distanced themselves from the Republican Party's financial brinkmanship as corporate America reacts with growing horror to the imminent prospect of a US debt default.

The brothers' privately held chemical conglomerate, Koch Industries, issued a rare public statement to deny allegations that the pair supported the high-risk strategy of defunding the government.

Finance leaders have for some time been wary of the increasingly radical Republican tactics, but the growing anxiety among mainstream corporate America and party donors such as Koch may prove to be what forces the party leadership to rethink.

Koch brothers claim no involvement in efforts to defund healthcare reforms | World news | theguardian.com
 
I see the lefties are trying to put the best spin possible on this..

Too bad it isn't gonna work.

Obama's approval numbers are still dropping like a rock among independents.
 
I see the lefties are trying to put the best spin possible on this..

Too bad it isn't gonna work.

Obama's approval numbers are still dropping like a rock among independents.

Obama isn't running in 2014.

Republicans in the Senate are putting together the deal, because Boehner is so weak.

In the Senate, top Republicans began crafting a proposal that would reopen the government and raise the federal debt limit for as long as three months — an approach closer to the terms Obama has set to end the standoff.

Obama, Republicans in debt talks on two fronts - The Washington Post
 
I thought Obama wasn't going to negotiate with "terrorists". Looks like he's the one folding.

Wrong.

Obamacare is fully funded.

Republicans are folding because their approval rating cratered to 24%.

By taking $700 billion out of Medicare. Technically it has no funding mechanism.

Democrats and Republicans are taking hits in the polls as well, so it may be spurring both sides to act. The 43% approval rating in that same poll for the Democrats is the lowest it's been since 2009, Obama's first year in office when it was a point lower. A year earlier in 2008, the Democratic Party enjoyed 53% favorability, that's a 10 point drop in less than a year for which they have never recovered from. By the way, it's 28% not 24%. Nice try though. Read the freaking poll.
 
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I thought Obama wasn't going to negotiate with "terrorists". Looks like he's the one folding.

Wrong.

Obamacare is fully funded.

Republicans are folding because their approval rating cratered to 24%.

By taking $700 billion out of Medicare. Technically it has no funding mechanism.

Democrats and Republicans are taking hits in the polls as well, so it may be spurring both sides to act. The 43% approval rating in that same poll for the Democrats is the lowest it's been since 2009, Obama's first year in office when it was a point lower. A year earlier in 2008, the Democratic Party enjoyed 53% favorability, that's a 10 point drop that they have never recovered from.

No money taken our of Medicare. Just a reduction in insurance company gouging.

Nice try though.

You guys got your asses kicked just like in 1995.
 
The Republican Party has been badly damaged in the ongoing government shutdown and debt limit standoff, with a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finding that a majority of Americans blame the GOP for the shutdown, and with the party’s popularity declining to its lowest level.

By a 22-point margin (53 percent to 31 percent), the public blames the Republican Party more for the shutdown than President Barack Obama – a wider margin of blame for the GOP than the party received during the poll during the last shutdown in 1995-96.

Just 24 percent of respondents have a favorable opinion about the GOP, and only 21 percent have a favorable view of the Tea Party, which are both at all-time lows in the history of poll.

NBC/WSJ poll: Shutdown debate damages GOP - First Read
 
Republicans approval rating in the latest WSJ/NBC poll was 24%

In Gallup it was 28%, the lowest rating of any major party in Gallup's history.

Even the Koch brothers have bailed on the ridiculous spectacle of shutting down the government and sending us into default by not raising the debt ceiling.

The look on Boehner's face tonight was priceless.

Obama's approval rating is 37%. Your point? Funny how I never hear of the Koch Brothers on either side of the debate, it's people like you spouting that nonsense.

Charles and David Koch, the billionaires who bankroll Republican causes and candidates, have distanced themselves from the Republican Party's financial brinkmanship as corporate America reacts with growing horror to the imminent prospect of a US debt default.

The brothers' privately held chemical conglomerate, Koch Industries, issued a rare public statement to deny allegations that the pair supported the high-risk strategy of defunding the government.

Finance leaders have for some time been wary of the increasingly radical Republican tactics, but the growing anxiety among mainstream corporate America and party donors such as Koch may prove to be what forces the party leadership to rethink.

Koch brothers claim no involvement in efforts to defund healthcare reforms | World news | theguardian.com

Your point? So what have they done to influence the shutdown debate exactly? I've never heard one iota of them in the news, this is the first. Albeit, this comes from the left leaning Washington Post, they are prone to speculation.
 
Wrong.

Obamacare is fully funded.

Republicans are folding because their approval rating cratered to 24%.

By taking $700 billion out of Medicare. Technically it has no funding mechanism.

Democrats and Republicans are taking hits in the polls as well, so it may be spurring both sides to act. The 43% approval rating in that same poll for the Democrats is the lowest it's been since 2009, Obama's first year in office when it was a point lower. A year earlier in 2008, the Democratic Party enjoyed 53% favorability, that's a 10 point drop that they have never recovered from.

No money taken our of Medicare. Just a reduction in insurance company gouging.

Nice try though.

You guys got your asses kicked just like in 1995.

Your intellectual bankruptcy isn't all that surprising.



August 1, 2012

Last week, a new Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report updated the amount of money Obamacare robs out of Medicare from $500 billion to a whopping $716 billion between 2013 and 2022.

According to the CBO, the payment cuts in Medicare include:

A $260 billion payment cut for hospital services.
A $39 billion payment cut for skilled nursing services.
A $17 billion payment cut for hospice services.
A $66 billion payment cut for home health services.
A $33 billion payment cut for all other services.
A $156 billion cut in payment rates in Medicare Advantage (MA); $156 billion is before considering interactions with other provisions. The House Ways and Means Committee was able to include interactions with other provisions, estimating the cuts to MA to be even higher, coming in at $308 billion.
$56 billion in cuts for disproportionate share hospital (DSH) payments.* DSH payments go to hospitals that serve a large number of low-income patients.
$114 billion in other provisions pertaining to Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP* (does not include coverage-related provisions).​

Obamacare Robs Medicare of $716 Billion to Fund Itself | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News Blog from The Heritage Foundation
 
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Obama's approval rating is 37%. Your point? Funny how I never hear of the Koch Brothers on either side of the debate, it's people like you spouting that nonsense.

Charles and David Koch, the billionaires who bankroll Republican causes and candidates, have distanced themselves from the Republican Party's financial brinkmanship as corporate America reacts with growing horror to the imminent prospect of a US debt default.

The brothers' privately held chemical conglomerate, Koch Industries, issued a rare public statement to deny allegations that the pair supported the high-risk strategy of defunding the government.

Finance leaders have for some time been wary of the increasingly radical Republican tactics, but the growing anxiety among mainstream corporate America and party donors such as Koch may prove to be what forces the party leadership to rethink.

Koch brothers claim no involvement in efforts to defund healthcare reforms | World news | theguardian.com

Your point? So what have they done to influence the shutdown debate exactly? I've never heard one iota of them in the news, this is the first. Albeit, this comes from the left leaning Washington Post, they are prone to speculation.

You must be watching FoxNews and apparently you didn't read my post....

"The brothers' privately held chemical conglomerate, Koch Industries, issued a rare public statement to deny allegations that the pair supported the high-risk strategy of defunding the government."

The Chamber of Commerce was against the shutdown as was the Heritage Foundation.

Even Charles Krauthammer thought it was crazy.

The good news is that maybe the adults will get back control of the Republican Party.
 
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office determined that the Medicare provisions in President Obama's health care law would save $700 BILLION over a decade and EXTENDS THE LIFE OF MEDICARE. Extends it EIGHT YEARS.
 
Charles and David Koch, the billionaires who bankroll Republican causes and candidates, have distanced themselves from the Republican Party's financial brinkmanship as corporate America reacts with growing horror to the imminent prospect of a US debt default.

The brothers' privately held chemical conglomerate, Koch Industries, issued a rare public statement to deny allegations that the pair supported the high-risk strategy of defunding the government.

Finance leaders have for some time been wary of the increasingly radical Republican tactics, but the growing anxiety among mainstream corporate America and party donors such as Koch may prove to be what forces the party leadership to rethink.

Koch brothers claim no involvement in efforts to defund healthcare reforms | World news | theguardian.com

Your point? So what have they done to influence the shutdown debate exactly? I've never heard one iota of them in the news, this is the first. Albeit, this comes from the left leaning Washington Post, they are prone to speculation.

You must be watching FoxNews and apparently you didn't read my post....

"The brothers' privately held chemical conglomerate, Koch Industries, issued a rare public statement to deny allegations that the pair supported the high-risk strategy of defunding the government."

The Chamber of Commerce was against the shutdown as was the Heritage Foundation.

Even Charles Krauthammer thought it was crazy.

The good news is that maybe the adults will get back control of the Republican Party.

I don't watch Fox News. Why must you make such an assumption? And why do you care about the Republican Party?
 

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