Boom!!!! Judge in Manafort case says Mueller only wants to hurt Trump

[Billy_Bob]

"The judge clearly showed that they had EXCEEDED THIER LEGAL MANDATE PRIOR to Rosenstine widening it" is the silliest statement of the day. Rosenstein's letter is legal and will guide the judge. If the judge rules against it, the ruling will be appealed and overturned within a week at the most.

YOU REALLY ARE AN IDIOT... You need to read the court transcript...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Correct... they had no legal standing to ask for the raid let alone do it.

100% wrong, delusional Trumpkin fantasy

 

[BULLDOG]

Jojn Birch was able to pull all those into one pile, of course he didn't call it that.

[what's with all the weird posts tonight?], Oh well lets do it, ready? GO!
I'll bet I know what you would love to call it comrade...your lack of a point only leaves you one avenue, so take it, c,mon I dare ya...if you don't I will just keep making point after point until you have no choice but to go down that commie path...now say it, you know you want to.

OK. If you say so. I'm not sure you have made any points, but I guess you think you did.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

OK. If you say so. I'm not sure you have made any points, but I guess you think you did.

I actually believe you when you say your not sure I made any points, the word racist has not appeared in any manner yet...and since I know it is frustrating you to no end not being able to use it so I'll let you use it this one time, just to get it off your chest and so you can get some sleep tonight.

 

[BULLDOG]

OK. If you say so. I'm not sure you have made any points, but I guess you think you did.

I actually believe you when you say your not sure I made any points, the word racist has not appeared in any manner yet...and since I know it is frustrating you to no end not being able to use it so I'll let you use it this one time, just to get it off your chest and so you can get some sleep tonight.

I would put you more in the idiot category. That doesn't exclude racism, but it doesn't seem to be your main focus.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

would put you more in the idiot category. That doesn't exclude racism, but it doesn't seem to be your main focus.

OK, feel better? that's your freebie brother, sleep well.

 

[BULLDOG]

would put you more in the idiot category. That doesn't exclude racism, but it doesn't seem to be your main focus.

OK, feel better? that's your freebie brother, sleep well.

Not sure what your getting at, but if you feel better, I guess my understanding of you isn't needed.

 

[bripat9643]

And now parts that were left out in the OP.
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You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud,” Judge T.S. Ellis III said during a morning hearing. “You really care about getting information Mr. Manafort can give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump and lead to his prosecution or impeachment.”
Manafort was seeking to have the bank and tax fraud charges against him dismissed in federal court in Alexandria, with his lawyers arguing that the alleged crimes have nothing to do with the election or with President Trump.
Ellis agreed, but he made no immediate decision on the defense motion. He said even without such a connection the special counsel, which is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election, may well still have the authority to bring the charges
“I’m not saying it’s illegitimate,” Ellis said.
Federal judge in Virginia grills special counsel on Manafort investigation
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Oh fucking bite me. The point of the Judge's statement is he is pointing out the freaking motive.

You missing the point. It doesn't matter what the judge said during the proceedings. The question before the court is whether the Mueller charges against Manafort are within the scope of the investigation....and they obviously are.

Manafort will lose again.

you just make shit up? would seem so.

"You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud," Ellis said. "You really care about what information he might give you about Mr. Trump and what might lead to his impeachment or prosecution."

the judges quote, not mine. the point is the judge sees this as a reach around to try and get to trump via any means necessary. in this case -

"Ellis said he's concerned Mueller is only pursuing charges against Manafort (and presumably other individuals) to pressure them into turning on Trump. The Judge added that the charges brought against Manafort didn't appear to stem from Mueller's collusion probe. Instead, they appeared to be the work of an older investigation into Manafort that was eventually dropped."

I'd be hilarious if Trump told Manafort not to worry.....
And deposited 10 million in his account.

That would be great! The Mueller finds out and adds it to Obstruction of Justice evidence....influencing a witness.

Let Mewler prove Manafort and Trump have an agreement. That will be harder to prove than the so-called "collusion" charge.

There is no evidence of obstruction of justice. None.

 

[bripat9643]

would put you more in the idiot category. That doesn't exclude racism, but it doesn't seem to be your main focus.

OK, feel better? that's your freebie brother, sleep well.

Never cut these douchbags any slack. They'll return the favor by sinking their fangs into you and injecting poison.

 

[eagle1462010]

Judge said what we've been saying all along. He's out of bounds with the scope of his investigation. In this case trying to charge Manafort with so called crimes from a decade before the so called collusion.

The Judge confirmed that none of this has anything to do with Russia, the Ukraine, and Collusion and asked why it was in his court room. Should be handled in a lower court.

The FBI is trying to sentence Manafort for over 300 years for tax evasion and money laundering charges that have nothing to do with the scope assigned to Mueller.

Dirty cops playing dirty and out of bounds with their assignment. They were chastised on that as well.

 

[Blarg1862]

Unfreaking real. Awesome development.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," District Judge T.S. Ellis said to prosecutor Michael Dreeben, at times losing his temper. Ellis said prosecutors were interested in Manafort because of his potential to provide material that would lead to Trump's "prosecution or impeachment," Ellis said.

"That's what you're really interested in," said Ellis, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan.

He repeated his suspicion several times in the hour-long court hearing."

Judge in Manafort case says Mueller's aim is to hurt Trump - CNNPolitics

Mueller’s mandate from Republican DOJ officials allows him to go after any issue that arises from his investigation:

Rosenstein letter appointing Mueller special counsel

Whether it hurts Trump or not is immaterial.

I would funny you, but some fags get triggered by that so I’ll be sure to point out what you just said. It’s okay that Muller is using Manifort to get Trump on anything they can. Libtards always seem to blow their wad prematurely. Been doing it since Trump took the helm and every time they have been made to look stupid. Soon, the stupid will stick to Muller just like it did with the Anthrax thing. We have heard nothing from the judges on this, but from the bits and pieces that we do get, this ain’t a slam dunk for Hillary Clinton’s hit man. For him win or lose this will be anblack Mark by his name.

Hate speech. Nice. Anything you say is invalid.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"The judge clearly showed that they had EXCEEDED THIER LEGAL MANDATE PRIOR to Rosenstine widening it" is the silliest statement of the day. Rosenstein's letter is legal and will guide the judge. If the judge rules against it, the ruling will be appealed and overturned within a week at the most.

YOU REALLY ARE AN IDIOT... You need to read the court transcript...

Ah, you are talking in the mirror.

Your literally do not have a clue about these things.

The judge can have his opinion, but he has to go by the law, and his guide on this case is Rosenstein's remit to Mueller.

Mueller and his doings, wherever they lead, are part of the remit.

The art of the deal here is for Mueller to persuade Manafort to limit his judicial pain by cooperating with Mueller. It's legal for Mueller to inflict the maximum on Manifort he can if Manifort will not deal.

 

[bripat9643]

And now parts that were left out in the OP.
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You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud,” Judge T.S. Ellis III said during a morning hearing. “You really care about getting information Mr. Manafort can give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump and lead to his prosecution or impeachment.”
Manafort was seeking to have the bank and tax fraud charges against him dismissed in federal court in Alexandria, with his lawyers arguing that the alleged crimes have nothing to do with the election or with President Trump.
Ellis agreed, but he made no immediate decision on the defense motion. He said even without such a connection the special counsel, which is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election, may well still have the authority to bring the charges
“I’m not saying it’s illegitimate,” Ellis said.
Federal judge in Virginia grills special counsel on Manafort investigation
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The connection with Manafort and Russia and Manafort's illegal money dealings reaches far and wide relating to collusion. Maybe someone should alert the judge? ; Ukraine stops helping Mueller to avoid upsetting Trump: NYT

There are no illlegal money dealings and no collusion. Maybe you get back on your regular dosage of Thorazine.

 

[eagle1462010]

"The judge clearly showed that they had EXCEEDED THIER LEGAL MANDATE PRIOR to Rosenstine widening it" is the silliest statement of the day. Rosenstein's letter is legal and will guide the judge. If the judge rules against it, the ruling will be appealed and overturned within a week at the most.

YOU REALLY ARE AN IDIOT... You need to read the court transcript...

Ah, you are talking in the mirror.

Your literally do not have a clue about these things.

Where are the charges that show collusion, obstruction of Justice in the prosecution against Manafort......................















They aren't there.

 

[bripat9643]

It looks like that case will get thrown out of court.

No, it doesn’t

looks like it to me. and the judge has called the ploy a ploy and it will be tumbling soon.

Possibly Herr Mewler will be defanged and stick to investigation of collusion and not investigating the enitre Trump administration for anything and everything under the sun.

 

[bripat9643]

"The judge clearly showed that they had EXCEEDED THIER LEGAL MANDATE PRIOR to Rosenstine widening it" is the silliest statement of the day. Rosenstein's letter is legal and will guide the judge. If the judge rules against it, the ruling will be appealed and overturned within a week at the most.

YOU REALLY ARE AN IDIOT... You need to read the court transcript...

Ah, you are talking in the mirror.

Your literally do not have a clue about these things.

Where are the charges that show collusion, obstruction of Justice in the prosecution against Manafort......................















They aren't there.

Standard response: wait until Herr Mewler issues his report.

 

[eagle1462010]

It looks like that case will get thrown out of court.

No, it doesn’t

looks like it to me. and the judge has called the ploy a ploy and it will be tumbling soon.

Possibly Herr Mewler will be defanged and stick to investigation of collusion and not inveestigating the Trump administration for anything and everything under the sun.

Mueller has his own problems.............We'll see if McCabe sings when he faces the court. Comey not far behind and others.

Then its gonna get real interesting.

 

[bripat9643]

Unfreaking real. Awesome development.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," District Judge T.S. Ellis said to prosecutor Michael Dreeben, at times losing his temper. Ellis said prosecutors were interested in Manafort because of his potential to provide material that would lead to Trump's "prosecution or impeachment," Ellis said.

"That's what you're really interested in," said Ellis, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan.

He repeated his suspicion several times in the hour-long court hearing."

Judge in Manafort case says Mueller's aim is to hurt Trump - CNNPolitics

Mueller’s mandate from Republican DOJ officials allows him to go after any issue that arises from his investigation:

Rosenstein letter appointing Mueller special counsel

Whether it hurts Trump or not is immaterial.

I would funny you, but some fags get triggered by that so I’ll be sure to point out what you just said. It’s okay that Muller is using Manifort to get Trump on anything they can. Libtards always seem to blow their wad prematurely. Been doing it since Trump took the helm and every time they have been made to look stupid. Soon, the stupid will stick to Muller just like it did with the Anthrax thing. We have heard nothing from the judges on this, but from the bits and pieces that we do get, this ain’t a slam dunk for Hillary Clinton’s hit man. For him win or lose this will be anblack Mark by his name.

If the judge had an ounce of natural curiosity for solid information/evidence, he might not have made such a fool of himself; Key Mueller witness runs to Russia as Ukraine courts Trump favor

There is no solid "information/evidence," dumbass. If there was, you could post it here, but we all know that none of you douchebag snowflakes can.

 

[Thinker101]

Not at all. My point was to capture the essence of the Judge's comments as it relates to Mueller and his teams motive in their case against Manafort.

The judge has no idea of their motives. He only knows the details of the case before him and not the entirety of the investigation.

your honor, this dossier we're submitting into evidence was used to start this entire preceding. We would like the prosecutor to explain how we got here since this document is not validated. how did a federal judge get a warrant off of this document? we ask to have the case dismissed.

^ Truly dopey.
That is not within the purview of the case before the judge even if it were true.

LOL...now you want to bring up PURVIEW...with Mueller...LOL, dumbass.

It was in regard to the judge, dope.

I understand what you were trying to say, the judge should stay within the lines, but not Mueller....dumbass.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"The judge clearly showed that they had EXCEEDED THIER LEGAL MANDATE PRIOR to Rosenstine widening it" is the silliest statement of the day. Rosenstein's letter is legal and will guide the judge. If the judge rules against it, the ruling will be appealed and overturned within a week at the most.

YOU REALLY ARE AN IDIOT... You need to read the court transcript...

Ah, you are talking in the mirror.

Your literally do not have a clue about these things.

Where are the charges that show collusion, obstruction of Justice in the prosecution against Manafort...................... They aren't there.

They don't have to be there. Mueller can legally burn him down on what he does have. If Manifort wants to avoid that, he will share what he does know about what Mueller wants to know.

The judge wants to tighten the lines, but he can't without being appealed, which he, the judge, will lose.