Border chief says Wall is a waste of money .

[HereWeGoAgain]

He's retiring and no longer has to play politics .

He's right . If you really want to control illegal immigration the money is better spent on more Ice agents or more immigration courts and judges .


Retiring Border Chief Calls Trump's Wall a Waste of Time, Money

BS from every direction. Walls are necessary where there's limited space/exposure from either side. All else can be secured using electrics, satellite, helicopters, dogs, shot guns, and most of all enforcement. People are pretty fucking stupid from both sides. Especially liberals of course, but that's to be expected.

It would be a great place for our military personnel to do a stint and they can be rotated out.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

What can you do but laugh at the pathetic Obama appointee who failed in such a spectacular way? Does anyone in their right mind really think his opinion is relevant?

Under his watch the number of undocumented aliens in the USA has not increased.

That is a MONUMENTAL achievement, unequaled under modern US immigration law going back way before Reagan.

Up to the end of the Bush era, the number of undocumented aliens in the US had climbed at a constant and steady pace for decades.

This certainly was not only because of this one guy's contribution.

But, your idea that he failed would need monumental support to protect it from being laughed at.

So did the media tell you that?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

That wall will save us billions

Building, maintaining, and manning the wall will cost billions upon billions over the decades

So does taking care of illegals

illegals have a work ethic from the Age of Iron and help the rich get richer faster. any questions?

While they send all the money they make back to mexico to the tune of 25 billion a year that should be spent here in the U.S.,add the cost of schooling and social services and the wall is a bargain.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Trump and his supporters disagree.

Who do you think is going to win this?

my left wing "crystal ball" predicts plenty of litigation, for fun and profit.

So you're going to sue because we want to uphold laws already in the books?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

He's retiring and no longer has to play politics .

He's right . If you really want to control illegal immigration the money is better spent on more Ice agents or more immigration courts and judges .


Retiring Border Chief Calls Trump's Wall a Waste of Time, Money

Any wall can be compromised. All you need to do is watch national geographic--they have found so many tunnels it's unbelievable. It would be a waste of money.

I would use something they can't see, electronics that sends a signal miles before they get to the border, then set up border patrol stations in more areas, and it's a done deal, it's controlled.

They also need to get a pathway to citizenship for people that have lived here for years. They're working and they need to pay their fair share of taxes.

There is absolutely no reason that it should take 15 years for someone to get citizenship to this country that came here legally and that goes on a lot.

All the shit you're whining about can easily be fixed.

 

[bripat9643]

He's retiring and no longer has to play politics .

He's right . If you really want to control illegal immigration the money is better spent on more Ice agents or more immigration courts and judges .


Retiring Border Chief Calls Trump's Wall a Waste of Time, Money

He's a Democrat appointed by Obama. His opinion isn't worth jack shit.

 

[The Irish Ram]

That wall will save us billions

Building, maintaining, and manning the wall will cost billions upon billions over the decades

Yes, let's talk about some of the costs normally not considered.

1. No roads. Many of these areas have no roads whatsoever. That would mean roads would need to be built just to get equipment and supplies into the area.

2. No nearby communities where the wall is being built. That would mean that workers would have to be brought in to temporarily live in the areas where the wall is being built, plus we would have to provide housing, showering facilities, heat and AC, food and food preparation, etc.

3. No nearby stores. Because of this, all supplies would have to be shipped in, including fuel, fuel for generating electricity, water, refrigeration units, heavy equipment, concrete, sand, rocks, wood, bricks, rebar, and on and on.

4. Since this would be a work area without any kind of a typical support network, there would also need to be medical personnel of some kind and people to work as a small police force for security.

Work and the support network will come. Some one will open up a restaurant to feed them, a gas station will pop up. Then another one will pop up across the street. But the wall won't be the same across the board. Parts may need to be droned, parts may be patrolled. But I say, go bigly:

Why not a wall lined with store fronts, museums, state by state goods, farmer's markets...
Make it a tourist attraction on this side and a detraction on the other side. Hire vets to patrol. Make it a modern day Route 66. Make it make money.

 

[bripat9643]

I think a wall is a waste as far as curbing illegals. If we took away their incentive, we wouldn't have to worry about it. A lot of illegals come in legally, anyways.
No need for more band aids when the solution is biting you in the ass.

Every douche bag who defends illegal immigration says the wall is a waste of money.

Lesson to be learned? Build the wall.

 

[bripat9643]

That wall will save us billions

Building, maintaining, and manning the wall will cost billions upon billions over the decades

So will 50,000 border guards, numskull. The later will cost far more than the wall, in fact. The wall reduces the cost of manpower. It's the cheaper way to go. Do you think Israel would have built a 400 mile wall if they thought it was a waste of money?

 

[bripat9643]

He's retiring and no longer has to play politics .

He's right . If you really want to control illegal immigration the money is better spent on more Ice agents or more immigration courts and judges .


Retiring Border Chief Calls Trump's Wall a Waste of Time, Money

That should be pretty obvious to reasonable people

It's "obvious" only to lying douche bags who want the flood of illegals to continue.

 

[TomParks]

That wall will save us billions

Building, maintaining, and manning the wall will cost billions upon billions over the decades

Yes, let's talk about some of the costs normally not considered.

1. No roads. Many of these areas have no roads whatsoever. That would mean roads would need to be built just to get equipment and supplies into the area.

2. No nearby communities where the wall is being built. That would mean that workers would have to be brought in to temporarily live in the areas where the wall is being built, plus we would have to provide housing, showering facilities, heat and AC, food and food preparation, etc.

3. No nearby stores. Because of this, all supplies would have to be shipped in, including fuel, fuel for generating electricity, water, refrigeration units, heavy equipment, concrete, sand, rocks, wood, bricks, rebar, and on and on.

4. Since this would be a work area without any kind of a typical support network, there would also need to be medical personnel of some kind and people to work as a small police force for security.

Work and the support network will come. Some one will open up a restaurant to feed them, a gas station will pop up. Then another one will pop up across the street. But the wall won't be the same across the board. Parts may need to be droned, parts may be patrolled. But I say, go bigly:
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Why not a wall lined with store fronts, museums, state by state goods, farmer's markets...
Make it a tourist attraction on this side and a detraction on the other side. Hire vets to patrol. Make it a modern day Route 66. Make it make money.

You were thinking the same as me...the wall could be a huge tourist attraction.

 

[Indeependent]

I don't care if Trump runs the Debt up to $50 Trillion. They've spent us into a $20 Trillion Debt, and i've seen nothing from it. I realize many others have benefited from all the spending, but i haven't. So it's my turn now. Spend whatever it takes on securing our border and ending Illegal Immigration. It's time for me to get something from all the spending. I want border security. And i want it now. Get on it President Trump!

Since the number of undocumented aliens staying in the US is not growing, and since nearly half those here came by legal means (thus not affected by a wall), I just have to ask:

What do you think the wall will achieve?

You say it is "your turn", so I want to know what you think you are getting.

So...we have documentation on the number of "undocumented aliens staying in the US"?
Is one of us on drugs?

There is currently a construction bubble in the US and I see MASSIVE numbers of members of ONE particular part of the Western Hemisphere building all over the place.

I don't believe either of us is on drugs - lol!

We have data from a number of agencies including the government that shows these numbers. There are a LOT of people who want to know, as it affects stuff like schools, employment, services (such as ER), etc., etc.

I doubt you can tell by looking whether someone is an American citizen.

Remember that the argument is that the wall is required to keep the number from GROWING.

So, it's relatively important to know that the number isn't growing AND that entry isn't limited to the method of entry that the wall addresses.

Oh! We're going back to the GOVERNMENT Statistics! nonsense.
So we know they're here and where they are and...
Seems we need a WALL.
What we need also is to eliminate the Legislative Line Items that force the US Taxpayer to pay for this nonsense.

 

[danielpalos]

He's retiring and no longer has to play politics .

He's right . If you really want to control illegal immigration the money is better spent on more Ice agents or more immigration courts and judges .


Retiring Border Chief Calls Trump's Wall a Waste of Time, Money

The retiring border chief is an Obama appointee.

That said, I agree with more border agents, sharpshootin' guys who can hit a refried bean at 1000 yards.

right wing fantasy?

Simple efficiency.

there is no efficiency in Prohibition.

 

[danielpalos]

Call it 'Infrastructure Spending.' Maybe some Democrat dunces will accidentally support it. Whatever it takes. Just get it done.

it requires war on illegals tax rates.

Democrats are always big on 'Infrastructure Spending', no? So lets just call it an 'Infrastructure Project', and get it done. Could create a lotta American Jobs. Gonna require a huge amount of labor to build it.

let's not; it should require socialist tax rates on a national basis.

 

[danielpalos]

That wall will save us billions

Building, maintaining, and manning the wall will cost billions upon billions over the decades

So does taking care of illegals

illegals have a work ethic from the Age of Iron and help the rich get richer faster. any questions?

While they send all the money they make back to mexico to the tune of 25 billion a year that should be spent here in the U.S.,add the cost of schooling and social services and the wall is a bargain.

Mexico is our trading partner; they buy stuff from us, all the time.

List of the largest trading partners of the United States - Wikipedia

That is why I don't take you seriously.

 

[The Irish Ram]

He's retiring and no longer has to play politics .

He's right . If you really want to control illegal immigration the money is better spent on more Ice agents or more immigration courts and judges .


Retiring Border Chief Calls Trump's Wall a Waste of Time, Money

The retiring border chief is an Obama appointee.

That said, I agree with more border agents, sharpshootin' guys who can hit a refried bean at 1000 yards.

right wing fantasy?

Simple efficiency.

there is no efficiency in Prohibition.

There is no prohibition in our immigration laws that aren't there to protect Americans.

 

[danielpalos]

Trump and his supporters disagree.

Who do you think is going to win this?

my left wing "crystal ball" predicts plenty of litigation, for fun and profit.

So you're going to sue because we want to uphold laws already in the books?

What laws are on the books?

 

[Dschrute3]

Call it 'Infrastructure Spending.' Maybe some Democrat dunces will accidentally support it. Whatever it takes. Just get it done.

it requires war on illegals tax rates.

Democrats are always big on 'Infrastructure Spending', no? So lets just call it an 'Infrastructure Project', and get it done. Could create a lotta American Jobs. Gonna require a huge amount of labor to build it.

let's not; it should require socialist tax rates on a national basis.

Large infrastructure projects can provide a lot of American Jobs. So let's get Americans working and get that wall built.

 

[danielpalos]

That wall will save us billions

Building, maintaining, and manning the wall will cost billions upon billions over the decades

So will 50,000 border guards, numskull. The later will cost far more than the wall, in fact. The wall reduces the cost of manpower. It's the cheaper way to go. Do you think Israel would have built a 400 mile wall if they thought it was a waste of money?

We wasted our time and money, on Prohibition.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

That wall will save us billions

Building, maintaining, and manning the wall will cost billions upon billions over the decades

So does taking care of illegals

illegals have a work ethic from the Age of Iron and help the rich get richer faster. any questions?

While they send all the money they make back to mexico to the tune of 25 billion a year that should be spent here in the U.S.,add the cost of schooling and social services and the wall is a bargain.

Mexico our trading partner; they buy stuff from us, all the time.

25 billion worth? Not to mention the 100's of millions we give them in foreign aid.
Take your dumbass shit elswhere.