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That's a classic No True Scotsman fallacy. There are plenty of sane people that recognize that its entirely possible to have an incongruity between one's biological gender and one's gender identity. And that aligning with one's gender identify has dramatic mental health benefits.

For a grown-up to not know the difference between boys and girls is prima facie proof of insanity, mental retardation, or other mental defect. Nothing to do with No True Scottsman. By definition, one who is so f•••ed up in the head as to be confused about this distinction is not sane.

You may not be able to comprehend gender dysphoria as you don't experience it. But it most definitely happens. And aligning with one's gender with one's gender identify dramatically reduces suicide and self harm.

Which is why the AMA has focused on treatment and the WHO is about to do the same. That *you* disagree is meaningless.
 
You may not be able to comprehend gender dysphoria as you don't experience it. But it most definitely happens. And aligning with one's gender with one's gender identify dramatically reduces suicide and self harm.

Which is why the AMA has focused on treatment and the WHO is about to do the same. That *you* disagree is meaningless.

It is scientifically, biologically, impossible to change a person's gender sex. Gender dysphoria is purely a mental disease. It is never appropriate or helpful to treat a mental illness by mutilating the patient's body in a vain attempt to make that patient's body conform to the patient's delusions.

And that you do not understand the difference between men and women, and believe that it is possible to change one into the other, only demonstrates your own defective mental condition. Anyone who is sane and of anything close to normal mental capacity knows better.
 
You may not be able to comprehend gender dysphoria as you don't experience it. But it most definitely happens. And aligning with one's gender with one's gender identify dramatically reduces suicide and self harm.

Which is why the AMA has focused on treatment and the WHO is about to do the same. That *you* disagree is meaningless.

It is scientifically, biologically, impossible to change a person's gender sex. Gender dysphoria is purely a mental disease. It is never appropriate or helpful to treat a mental illness by mutilating the patient's body in a vain attempt to make that patient's body conform to the patient's delusions.

And you learned this as your got your medical degree? Or from the extensive studies you performed?

Oh wait- this is your unqualified medical opinion- which you believe should be utilized instead of the actual doctors advise.
 
We have Syriusly & Skylar here Tag teaming people who are against depressing normal development in boys & girls so that later doctors can amputate their healthy vital organs. Bearing in mind that all this is being done by what the parents/kids say they want. All while children cannot legally consent, nor are qualified to make such fantastical diagnoses of themselves. Yet it is upon the child's word that Drs proceed,even while admitting such a change is only a gross approximation done to placate a mental state in the patient; and that true sex change doesnt actually exist

That is just the complete way of saying children are being permanently harmed by doctors. The penal code in the OP applies to anyone promoting child abuse.
 
We have Syriusly & Skylar here Tag teaming people who are against depressing normal development in boys & girls so that later doctors can amputate their healthy vital organs.

We're both advocating that the child eventually make the decision herself when she's an adult. With the counsel of her parents, her doctors and her mental health professionals.

Not you, citing yourself.

Bearing in mind that all this is being done by what the parents/kids say they want. All while children cannot legally consent, nor are qualified to make such fantastical diagnoses of themselves. Yet it is upon the child's word that Drs proceed,even while admitting such a change is only a gross approximation done to placate a mental state in the patient; and that true sex change doesnt actually exist

A child 'consenting' to a mental health diagnosis? Again, Sil.....your standards are just more pseudo-legal gibberish.

And while you like to pretend that you're a mental health expert, you're a horsebreeder living on a tiny little ranch. You don't actually know what the hell you're talking about regarding the law or mental health. Nor have you met the child in question, her parents, her doctors, or her mental health professionals. Nor could you even tell us her name without first referring to the article.

Rendering your 'assessments' of the law and mental health useless statements of ignorance.

That is just the complete way of saying children are being permanently harmed by doctors. The penal code in the OP applies.

Or, you don't know what you're talking about. Nor does your pseudo-legal nonsense create any application of any penal code. As you well know, as you've never called the police to turn these parents in. Despite knowing about this situation for approaching half a decade.
 
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Being a parent myself, I am against any mandatory state intervention on the rights of parents. However, in 2008, Wisconsin (my state) we have the Kara Neumann case, in which her religious parents withheld treatment for her diabetes on the belief that praying for her would cure her, not medical science. She died. In some respects, the state should have a vested interest in the child's well being that would preclude parental rights.
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However, this works both ways. There are those people who put their belief in science, in extremis. The behavioral science allowing parents to change a child's gender based on what I consider to be pseudo-science, on gender identification, is also not in the child's best interest, hence, should not be allowed.
 
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Being a parent myself, I am against any mandatory state intervention on the rights of parents. However, in 2008, Wisconsin (my state) we have the Kara Neumann case, in which her religious parents withheld treatment for her diabetes on the belief that praying for her would cure her, not medical science. She died. In some respects, the state should have a vested interest in the child's well being that would preclude parental rights.
However, this works both ways. There are those people who put their belief in science, in extremis. The behavioral science allowing parents to change a child's gender based on what I consider to be pseudo-science, on gender identification, is also not in the child's best interest, hence, should not be allowed.

Well, that's just a fancy way of saying that you believe that child-protective laws in place in CA are warranted and valid in this case. And, I agree.​
 
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Being a parent myself, I am against any mandatory state intervention on the rights of parents. However, in 2008, Wisconsin (my state) we have the Kara Neumann case, in which her religious parents withheld treatment for her diabetes on the belief that praying for her would cure her, not medical science. She died. In some respects, the state should have a vested interest in the child's well being that would preclude parental rights.
However, this works both ways. There are those people who put their belief in science, in extremis. The behavioral science allowing parents to change a child's gender based on what I consider to be pseudo-science, on gender identification, is also not in the child's best interest, hence, should not be allowed.

Well, that's just a fancy way of saying that you believe that child-protective laws in place in CA are warranted and valid in this case. And, I agree.​

Child protective laws are of course valid.

So what did the Berkeley police tell you when you called them 3 years ago about what you consider to be abuse?
 
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Being a parent myself, I am against any mandatory state intervention on the rights of parents. However, in 2008, Wisconsin (my state) we have the Kara Neumann case, in which her religious parents withheld treatment for her diabetes on the belief that praying for her would cure her, not medical science. She died. In some respects, the state should have a vested interest in the child's well being that would preclude parental rights.
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However, this works both ways. There are those people who put their belief in science, in extremis. The behavioral science allowing parents to change a child's gender based on what I consider to be pseudo-science, on gender identification, is also not in the child's best interest, hence, should not be allowed.

Parents can't actually change their child's gender.

You cite an actual case where parents refused medical treatment for their child- i.e. they ignored the best medical advice of doctors.

But then say that parents shouldn't be allowed- with the best medical advice of their doctors- to decide on how to best treat their troubled child.

So who should decide- if not the parents- or the child's doctors?
 
So what did the Berkeley police tell you when you called them 3 years ago about what you consider to be abuse?
Sounds like you're daring folks here to do what my signature says to do. Beware of your hubris causing issues in your strategy.... :popcorn:
 
We have Syriusly & Skylar here Tag teaming people who are against depressing normal development in boys & girls so that later doctors can amputate their healthy vital organs..

We have Silhouette here saying that she knows better how to treat a troubled children- than parents and their doctors.

But of course that is just a pretense- she doesn't care what parents do to their kids- unless the parents are gay and she can use the issue to attacks gays.
 
So what did the Berkeley police tell you when you called them 3 years ago about what you consider to be abuse?
Sounds like you're daring folks here to do what my signature says to do. Beware of your hubris causing issues in your strategy.... :popcorn:

I absolutely advise anyone who is aware of any child abuse to notify the local authorities immediately.

That is what I would do if I was aware of any child abuse.

Silhouette? If Silhouette heard about the parents holding their kids captive:
California family: Parents charged after children found shackled - CNN

Silhouette would go through the same two step process she always goes through:

a) Are the parents straight? If so- go no further- no need to mention it to anyone- are the parents gay? Go to step B

b) Post condemnation of the gay parents on USMB. Do not notify police or CPS. Attacking the parents as 'bad gays' on USMB is enough.

The difference between us is I would notify the police and CPS of any child abuse I suspect. And I have done so.
 
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** Contact the Department | DOJ | Department of Justice The law compels you to act to protect a child if you even suspect there is abuse in the absence of proof. If you fail to report, you can be liable for criminal charges. Nobody is above this law. Not even doctors or judges.

Again is a sign of her delusion. The Department of Justice has absolutely no jurisdiction over any child abuse unless the abuse crosses state lines- such as child trafficking.

Anyone who actually knows of child abuse should contact first and foremost the local authorities- police, sheriff, child protective services.

If you believe that the local authorities will not act- you can contact your state police, or state attorney general. If you suspect there is a national crime- such as child trafficking- you should contact the FBI.

Notifying the DOJ would be as useless as notifying the Department of Agriculture.
 
https://www.justice.gov/contact-us
Again is a sign of her delusion. The Department of Justice has absolutely no jurisdiction over any child abuse unless the abuse crosses state lines-

Have any such "transgender children" gone across state lines for the drugging? Have any of the drugs been shipped across state lines to the children? Have any of the specialists used public airwaves to communicate about the abuse proposed to children? Have any of the procedures involved children crossing state lines to receive them?

And, you're wrong about the fed's limitations in general about child abuse going on in states. Google CAPTA funds when you get a minute..
 
Again is a sign of her delusion. The Department of Justice has absolutely no jurisdiction over any child abuse unless the abuse crosses state lines-

Have any such "transgender children" gone across state lines for the drugging? ..

If you know of any such 'transgender children' being criminally abused- please do report their cases to the FBI.

Remember I am the one saying that anyone who suspects child abuse should report it to the proper authorities.

You are the one telling people to report suspected child abuse to a federal agency to has virtually nothing to do with protecting children from crimes.
 
So what did the Berkeley police tell you when you called them 3 years ago about what you consider to be abuse?
Sounds like you're daring folks here to do what my signature says to do. Beware of your hubris causing issues in your strategy.... :popcorn:

I absolutely advise anyone who is aware of any child abuse to notify the local authorities immediately.

That is what I would do if I was aware of any child abuse.

Silhouette? If Silhouette heard about the parents holding their kids captive:
California family: Parents charged after children found shackled - CNN

Silhouette would go through the same two step process she always goes through:

a) Are the parents straight? If so- go no further- no need to mention it to anyone- are the parents gay? Go to step B

b) Post condemnation of the gay parents on USMB. Do not notify police or CPS. Attacking the parents as 'bad gays' on USMB is enough.

The difference between us is I would notify the police and CPS of any child abuse I suspect. And I have done so.

Sil never would....because she knows she's completely full of shit. And a pair of loving parents taking in a special needs child is neither 'child abuse' nor 'molestation'.

Which is why she comes here rather than to the police.
 
Sil never would....because she knows she's completely full of shit. And a pair of loving parents taking in a special needs child is neither 'child abuse' nor 'molestation'.

You left out the part about the "loving parents" subjecting said special needs child to physical deformity, abuse and mutilation. Do be more comprehensive in your statements.
 
Sil never would....because she knows she's completely full of shit. And a pair of loving parents taking in a special needs child is neither 'child abuse' nor 'molestation'.

You left out the part about the "loving parents" subjecting said special needs child to physical deformity, abuse and mutilation. Do be more comprehensive in your statements.

There is no 'deformity', 'abuse' or 'mutilation'. The child is being given hormone treatments on the advice of both doctors and mental health professionals. Any surgery will be when the child is an adult and make the choice herself.

You, horsebreeder, pretend that you know the law better than the courts, psychology better than the entire APA and all of her mental health professionals, and this child's needs better than her parents.

You don't, you don't, and you can't even name the child without referring to the article from 2011. Your compulsive obsession with this one lesbian couple and their child offers you no insight. Merely an outlet for your obsession. As the half a dozen threads and hundreds of pages of your compulsive pseudo-legal ramblings demonstrates.
 
Yes, it's "compulsive" to object to the cult of LGBT and its value system; which includes using contracts to legally banish children for life from either a mother or father, and, drugging them to permanently retard normal puberty all so they can be lead to a surgical suite to have their healthy vital organs chopped off in a macabre experiment rendering them sterile, numb, incontinent, mutilated eunuchs.

So folks, if you object to that regularly, heatedly and passionately, you're "a bigot" or "compulsive" or "obsessive". Got that?
 
Yes, it's "compulsive" to object to the cult of LGBT and its value system; which includes using contracts to legally banish children for life from either a mother or father, and, drugging them to permanently retard normal puberty all so they can be lead to a surgical suite to have their healthy vital organs chopped off in a macabre experiment rendering them sterile, numb, incontinent, mutilated eunuchs.

Only when the parents are gay, Sil. When the parents are straight, you say nothing. You're compulsive obsession with gay people has completely consumed you. You've started no less than 50 threads on the topic of LGBT folks, with literally thousands of pages of your insane conspiracy theories and bizarre pseudo-legal gibberish.

Yet you wouldn't even call the police to turn these parents in, despite your wild claims of 'molestation' and 'child abuse'. Why wouldn't you call the police, Sil? Simple:

You know you're full of shit. And we know you're full of shit. So who are you trying to convince? Because neither of us are believing you.
 

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