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Pro-Israel Lobby Groups Secretly Admits Cultural Boycott Is Effective, Leaked Report Shows
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Pro-Israel Lobby Groups Secretly Admits Cultural Boycott Is Effective, Leaked Report Shows
You have no defense for Israel's crimes against humanity, so you try to silence Israel's critics.
You have no defense for Israel's crimes against humanity, so you try to silence Israel's critics.
Biggest Stories of 2018: Israel Announced Apartheid, Shot Thousands of CiviliansSupport for BDS will only increase in the coming years until the Palestinians are treated fairly and given the freedom they deserve.
[Israel] ... was founded on a formal racial supremacist principle that Jews must rule the state.
After 1967, Israel acquired substantial colonial possessions in the form of the Palestinian West Bank and Gaza, in which its leaders began implementing a classic settler colonial regime reminiscent of Apartheid South Africa. The Israeli leadership egregiously violated international law by flooding their own citizens into a militarily occupied territory, and by extensively altering the lifeways of the occupied population.
Not only is Israel not the only democracy in the Middle East (that distinction now belongs to Tunisia), it isn’t a democracy at all in the sense of a state of equal citizens able to vote for the government that rules them.
The policy is a boycott against West Bank settlements, not Jews. If the settlements are exclusively Jewish then on has to ask why.
The policy is a boycott against West Bank settlements, not Jews.
How The Split Over BDS Laws Has Come To Test The Limits Of Free Speech
Political expression seen at stake amid rifts in community.
What began as a move by states to fight the BDS (boycott, divestment and sanctions) movement against Israel has morphed into a fight over free speech that has divided many in the Jewish community who oppose the BDS movement.
Both the Arizona and Kansas anti-BDS laws were ruled unconstitutional by federal courts after the American Civil Liberties Union sued to overturn them on the grounds of free speech. Last week, it sued Texas in behalf of four residents challenging that state’s anti-BDS law that requires government contractors to certify that they are not engaged in boycotts of Israel or territories controlled by Israel. It contended the law violates the First Amendment’s protection against government intrusion into political speech.
A separate suit was filed against the Texas law by Bahia Amawi, a speech language pathologist who has been contracting with the Pflugerville Independent School District for nine years. She has been conducting bilingual Arabic evaluations and early childhood evaluations for Arabic-speaking children. When she was presented with her school contract this year, it contained a rider that required her to sign a statement saying she does not and would not boycott Israel for the duration of the contract. She refused and was terminated.
In her suit, which also names the school district, Amawi, described by her lawyer as a Palestinian-American who has family living in the West Bank, said she “advocates for boycotts of Israel due to Israel’s continuing violations of international law in its treatment of Palestinians. … Speech and advocacy related to the Israel-Palestine conflict is core political speech on a matter of public concern entitled to the highest levels of constitutional protection.”
How The Split Over BDS Laws Has Come To Test The Limits Of Free Speech
Not only is Israel not the only democracy in the Middle East (that distinction now belongs to Tunisia), it isn’t a democracy at all in the sense of a state of equal citizens able to vote for the government that rules them.
The policy is a boycott against West Bank settlements, not Jews.
Its not a policy against settlements (else Western Sahara, Northern Cyprus, Tibet, etc ....). Its a policy specifically and exclusively against Jewish settlements in a certain place in the world. Its a policy of boycott supporting the concept that certain places in the world must be kept clean from Jews (because Arabs demand it and not just in the "West Bank").
But, we've had this discussion before. Let me ask you a different question. Given that the Jewish people absolutely see this as antisemitism and "special treatment for Jews" and given that this suggests a need for more protection and security -- rather than less -- what do you think Israel should do in the face of this sort of boycott action?
The policy is a boycott against West Bank settlements, not Jews.
Its not a policy against settlements (else Western Sahara, Northern Cyprus, Tibet, etc ....). Its a policy specifically and exclusively against Jewish settlements in a certain place in the world. Its a policy of boycott supporting the concept that certain places in the world must be kept clean from Jews (because Arabs demand it and not just in the "West Bank").
That is like saying the boycotts against South Africa were not really about Apartheid otherwise they would have boycotted similar systems in other countries such as Rhodesia. You are essentially saying that one must oppose all such actions across the world or you are guilty of picking on just one ethnicity. That means if one opposes a policy settlement building in occupied/disputed territories in Palestine that opposition is an opposition to Jews living there. That is a fundementally dishonest argument. The opposition is to a nation's policy of building large scale communitees that often include questionably legal or even illegal means of obtaining land from resident communitees.
When you make it about Jews then let me flip the question back to you. The settlement program is almost exclusively Jewish. Isrsel is not building non-Jewish settlements in Area C are they? So is it a policy that ONLY Jews are allowed to move in and build settlements?
But, we've had this discussion before. Let me ask you a different question. Given that the Jewish people absolutely see this as antisemitism and "special treatment for Jews" and given that this suggests a need for more protection and security -- rather than less -- what do you think Israel should do in the face of this sort of boycott action?
From THEIR perspective I would do exactly what they are doing. Fighting it, and exposing the antisemitic elements that are attracted to it for what they are in some cases, and working with other nations to end it.
But you refer to the Jewish People as if they all stand behind this. Do they? Do a majority support the settlements? I do not think so.
(COMMENT)But you refer to the Jewish People as if they all stand behind this. Do they? Do a majority support the settlements? I do not think so.
Why should the Jews withdraw from their ancient homeland, when 80% has already been taken away from them by the Jordanians and Palestinians?RE: Boycott Israel
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Yes, to the question...
(COMMENT)But you refer to the Jewish People as if they all stand behind this. Do they? Do a majority support the settlements? I do not think so.
The thing that confuses most people's about the End Game. When the dust clears, what is the expectation? Will the Settlements have been a good idea.?
The answer too these simple questions will determine the next steps.
(CURIOSITY)
IF the Israelis decided to withdraw all the settlements; how would that be accomplished? What would a safe and orderly withdraw look like? Remember, the Arab Palestinians kept attacking the Israeli's all through the 2005 withdraw.
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