- Apr 17, 2009
- 112,996
- 38,442
No crime. Trump was negotiating with the National Archives, which he has a right to do. In addition, the FBI knew he has these documents and in fact approved the secure holding space.
Trump Defense System Locked and Loaded…Hold Steady…
January 2021
Trump stole hundreds of classified documents and presidential records stuffed in boxes mixed with personal stuff and carted them off to Maralago.
Basic Timeline Factbox: Timeline of the probe into whether Trump mishandled classified documents
At the point classified material is found, there is no “negotiation”. Neither ex presidents or any other ex officials are entitled to keep classified material period. They are not supposed to shred them or flush them down the toilet either. This applies to Biden and it applies to Trump.
By law, presidents can only keep their personal records.
Classified material was found unsecured in Trump’s office. That would not qualify as a “secure facility”. Documents were also found in a GSA storage locker, again, not secured.
At the time the FBI told the Trump to put an extra lock on the storeroom, they had no idea there were classified documents involved.
Got any other excuses?
Biden on the other hand, had these classified documents stored in various spots, when he has no right to retain them at all - and the FBI knew nothing about them. CRIME.
Ya. Kinda like Trump right? The FBI had no idea Trump had classified documents UNTIL they were found in the boxes given to NARA and then more were found later. Again,no ex president or VP has any right to retain classified material after they leave office, period.
Remind me again how this is so much better than Biden given both the unsecure storage and the fact he had no right to them. At best, both men were careless and reckless!
Furthermore, he lied about having returned all the stolen documents - and yet the FBI raid on Friday yielded more. CRIME.
I don’t recall him saying anything about “returning all of them”, in fact he offered and opened his properties to be searched for more. I suspect this one is a lie.
As I said: NO ex president, ex VP or any other ex official has any right to keep classified material once he is out office. It is the same whether it is Trump or Biden. The president is not king.Finally, he squirreled away classified documents from his SENATE (!) days, when he had no right to remove them from the SCIF at all. CRIME.
On the issue of “SCIF” you might be confused. A SCIF is a specific type of facility to hold a specific type of classified material. None of the reporting of the documents found from his senate days indicates that level of classification.
And, let it be said, this all assume that no evidence is contained within these documents that explains the connection between Hunter’s payoffs from the Ukrainians, some of which was funneled to Joe, and which in turn influenced him to be generous with foreign aid and weapons to Ukraine.
Your corrupt, demented boy is going down.
More made crap. Give it a rest.
Both men were extraordinarily reckless, careless and even arrogant in the handling of this material. Neither can be excused. Whether any of it is a crime depends on intent and whether there was intentional obstruction.
The difference notable though, how people respond. While I was glad to see Biden willingly offered his home to search, I was disappointed that he had “no regrets”. That is a very inappropriate respnse to a serious situation.
Unlike Trump and the Republicans, the Dems are NOT happy with Biden’s recklessness and cavalier attitude towards classified material and there has been open criticism and precious little excusing.
Can you say the same for Trump? Not if this post is any indication.