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LOLThis is where you come off the rails...this is not Trump's FBI it's Obama's...but it will be Trump's this time next month...Actually, Trump’s own FBI is trying to do that. Should trump listen to the people he put in charge?The left wing nut media is trying to stop it's release...Because it hasn’t been released yet.The memo is big news why is the news media so uninterested in it? Why don't they want to know whats in the damn thing?
....remember your comment about 'Denny's'...?It wouldn't matter if he was in a stall in the head at a Denny's on the Jersey turnpike. The ambassador's line was monitored.
Wouldn't have mattered - Papa's 'Lying to the FBI' came about from his overheard drunken conversation with an Aussie rep in the lieu of a British Pub...
What does that have to do with Flynn?
This is where you come off the rails...this is not Trump's FBI it's Obama's...but it will be Trump's this time next month...Actually, Trump’s own FBI is trying to do that. Should trump listen to the people he put in charge?The left wing nut media is trying to stop it's release...Because it hasn’t been released yet.The memo is big news why is the news media so uninterested in it? Why don't they want to know whats in the damn thing?
Ah haaaa! What do we have here? I think reality has set in and Mueller is now realizing what a shit storm he's gotten himself into. Mark my words, Flynn is going to get his indictment tossed due to the corrupt FISA Warrant. Mueller realizes that now.
JUST IN=> Robert Mueller Requests Postponement of Gen. Michael Flynn's Sentencing
Let's see.
"Mr Flynn, you're going to prison unless you give us something on Trump."
"No, I won't give you anything on Trump, Trump will pardon me as soon as anything happens"
"Mr Flynn, we've got evidence that will mean Mr Trump will not be president by the time you're convicted"
"Fuck, what do you want to know"
"That's a good boy, I'll request a postponement of your sentence."
Trump's folks were just illegally unmasked by the Obama administration after that....Doesn't matter one bit. Even if they were tapping the Russian Ambassador (they were) they illegally reviewed a U.S. Person's conversation without a warrant. THAT is the issue.
Poisonous tree.
Can you tell me what law was broken by "reviewing a U.S. Person's conversation" without a warrant?
How about the 4th Amendment? DUH!
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
A wiretap requires a warrant, does it not?
As per 50 U.S.C. 1802 (the legal codification of Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act), the President, through the Attorney General, can order electronic surveillance on any agent of a foreign government without a warrant for periods of time up to 1 year, and which can be renewed as many times as wanted.
The ambassador had been monitored for a long time before Trump and his folks arrived on the scene.
Wray has only been in the job for four months after Comey the clown was canned...the FBI is more than who is at the top...plus Wray is buddy buddy with Comey, Mueller and Rosenstein...stop splitting hairs it screws you up every time...LOL
You moron... Christopher Wray issued the warning to the White House and he was appointed by Trump.
You have anything but dumbass excuses to offer?
So again, why shouldn’t Trump listen to the people he put in charge?
Prove it.Trump's folks were just illegally unmasked by the Obama administration after that....Doesn't matter one bit. Even if they were tapping the Russian Ambassador (they were) they illegally reviewed a U.S. Person's conversation without a warrant. THAT is the issue.
Poisonous tree.
Can you tell me what law was broken by "reviewing a U.S. Person's conversation" without a warrant?
How about the 4th Amendment? DUH!
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
A wiretap requires a warrant, does it not?
As per 50 U.S.C. 1802 (the legal codification of Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act), the President, through the Attorney General, can order electronic surveillance on any agent of a foreign government without a warrant for periods of time up to 1 year, and which can be renewed as many times as wanted.
The ambassador had been monitored for a long time before Trump and his folks arrived on the scene.
One man does not make up the whole FBI stop splitting hairs like Faun...you know who is in the deep state stop playing the fool...This is where you come off the rails...this is not Trump's FBI it's Obama's...but it will be Trump's this time next month...Actually, Trump’s own FBI is trying to do that. Should trump listen to the people he put in charge?The left wing nut media is trying to stop it's release...Because it hasn’t been released yet.The memo is big news why is the news media so uninterested in it? Why don't they want to know whats in the damn thing?
Wait, Trump didn't nominate Wray?
Ah haaaa! What do we have here? I think reality has set in and Mueller is now realizing what a shit storm he's gotten himself into. Mark my words, Flynn is going to get his indictment tossed due to the corrupt FISA Warrant. Mueller realizes that now.
JUST IN=> Robert Mueller Requests Postponement of Gen. Michael Flynn's Sentencing
Let's see.
"Mr Flynn, you're going to prison unless you give us something on Trump."
"No, I won't give you anything on Trump, Trump will pardon me as soon as anything happens"
"Mr Flynn, we've got evidence that will mean Mr Trump will not be president by the time you're convicted"
"Fuck, what do you want to know"
"That's a good boy, I'll request a postponement of your sentence."
Yeah, there is one huge problem with your fantasy scenario. Trump is president right now and ergo could pardon Flynn right now if he wanted.
so did flynnAgain, you're conflating the warrant on Page with Flynn.Great, so how does that render a warrant, "illegal?"
If the fbi materially misreported the evidence they used to obtain the warrant that is called PERJURY. If they perjured themselves to obtain the warrant they are fucked three ways from Sunday.
How do you know the memo has to do with Page?
You don't, do you?
Page is the only one who had a FISA warrant.
to release the name of the person and investigate.still need a warrant.Redirect NoticeI disagree.No, that's not how it works. If, in the course of legal surveillance of someone else, you inadvertently pick up someone else incriminating themselves, that's completely legal evidence.
They didn't exceed their scope by listening in when Flynn called the Russian ambassador, because Flynn's call was incidental to their legal investigation.
It is my understanding that they still need court approval to unmask the U.S. Person (which is a term of art). They are supposed to completely ignore WHO the U.S. Person is and only look at it for context regarding the foreign agent (who can be tapped without a warrant).
But if the NSA or another agency with which NSA is sharing the information, like the FBI, wants to identify the person, it can do so if it believes it's necessary in the course of investigations or have probable cause to indicate there may be criminal conduct involved.
For what?
Trump's folks were just illegally unmasked by the Obama administration after that....Can you tell me what law was broken by "reviewing a U.S. Person's conversation" without a warrant?
How about the 4th Amendment? DUH!
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
A wiretap requires a warrant, does it not?
As per 50 U.S.C. 1802 (the legal codification of Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act), the President, through the Attorney General, can order electronic surveillance on any agent of a foreign government without a warrant for periods of time up to 1 year, and which can be renewed as many times as wanted.
The ambassador had been monitored for a long time before Trump and his folks arrived on the scene.
Liar.
It was unmasked that takes a court order...wake up!The ambassador has no doubt been under surveillance for years. That warrant is renewed annually. Long before Trump and his crew arrived
Which 'mistake' was that? We were talking about LIES, which I listed.Obama also said the ACA would not cost a dime, would pay for itself, that if you liked your plan you could keep your plan, that Benghazi was due to a video, and that he never knew about Hillary's server / private e-mail until he heard about if from the news....
He didn't have to say anything. That mistake is Trump's alone.
Why would I take your word on anything? So let’s see it....Do you mean you haven't learned to take me at my word yet?Oh? Let’s see your evidence that Mueller has seen Nunes’ memo.
Flynn will walk...he did nothing wrong...he was being strong armed by Mueller's team to try and get him to spill the beans but it's all over now...the memo will bring all of this bullshit to an end...No one forced Flynn to lie. Flynn is not a novice in Intel matters. He had to know the call was monitored.
He plead guilty.
I can read, but when you posy incomplete thoughts / sentences it is hard to keep up with you:Which 'mistake' was that? We were talking about LIES, which I listed.Obama also said the ACA would not cost a dime, would pay for itself, that if you liked your plan you could keep your plan, that Benghazi was due to a video, and that he never knew about Hillary's server / private e-mail until he heard about if from the news....
He didn't have to say anything. That mistake is Trump's alone.
To hire Flynn. Do you read? Obama didn't lie.
Yeah, but so did Abedin and Mills...and they were never charged / convicted...Flynn lied to the FBI. They have him on tape doing so. He plead guilty.
