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Redirect NoticeI disagree.No, that's not how it works. If, in the course of legal surveillance of someone else, you inadvertently pick up someone else incriminating themselves, that's completely legal evidence.
They didn't exceed their scope by listening in when Flynn called the Russian ambassador, because Flynn's call was incidental to their legal investigation.
It is my understanding that they still need court approval to unmask the U.S. Person (which is a term of art). They are supposed to completely ignore WHO the U.S. Person is and only look at it for context regarding the foreign agent (who can be tapped without a warrant).
so did flynnAgain, you're conflating the warrant on Page with Flynn.Great, so how does that render a warrant, "illegal?"The obama admin was releasing the names of Americans "caught" up in the various surveillance programs they had going. That is "unmasking".
If half of what has been reported is true, then the info they used against flynn was most likely obtained via the illegal FISA warrant. If that is indeed factual, flynn walks.
If the fbi materially misreported the evidence they used to obtain the warrant that is called PERJURY. If they perjured themselves to obtain the warrant they are fucked three ways from Sunday.
How do you know the memo has to do with Page?
You don't, do you?
Page is the only one who had a FISA warrant.
OMGThis is where you come off the rails...this is not Trump's FBI it's Obama's...but it will be Trump's this time next month...Actually, Trump’s own FBI is trying to do that. Should trump listen to the people he put in charge?The left wing nut media is trying to stop it's release...Because it hasn’t been released yet.The memo is big news why is the news media so uninterested in it? Why don't they want to know whats in the damn thing?
it isn't ANY president's FBI.
they don't work for the orange sociopath.
and they were following carter page around for years.... had zero to do with your orange jesus.
and loony toon, chris reye is Donald's boy... not president Obama's .... and HE doesn't want nunes' hack memo released.
nunes better run fast or he's going to end up in jail, too.
still need a warrant.Redirect NoticeI disagree.No, that's not how it works. If, in the course of legal surveillance of someone else, you inadvertently pick up someone else incriminating themselves, that's completely legal evidence.
They didn't exceed their scope by listening in when Flynn called the Russian ambassador, because Flynn's call was incidental to their legal investigation.
It is my understanding that they still need court approval to unmask the U.S. Person (which is a term of art). They are supposed to completely ignore WHO the U.S. Person is and only look at it for context regarding the foreign agent (who can be tapped without a warrant).
But if the NSA or another agency with which NSA is sharing the information, like the FBI, wants to identify the person, it can do so if it believes it's necessary in the course of investigations or have probable cause to indicate there may be criminal conduct involved.
If the trumped up FISA warrant led to the the surveillance of the ambassador...Flynn walks...and then he sues big time...Flynn was only performing the duties of his new position...communicating with foreign counterparts...Was there a FISA warrant on Flynn?
I don't believe there was. He was picked up speaking with the Russian ambassador
still need a warrant.Redirect NoticeI disagree.No, that's not how it works. If, in the course of legal surveillance of someone else, you inadvertently pick up someone else incriminating themselves, that's completely legal evidence.
They didn't exceed their scope by listening in when Flynn called the Russian ambassador, because Flynn's call was incidental to their legal investigation.
It is my understanding that they still need court approval to unmask the U.S. Person (which is a term of art). They are supposed to completely ignore WHO the U.S. Person is and only look at it for context regarding the foreign agent (who can be tapped without a warrant).
But if the NSA or another agency with which NSA is sharing the information, like the FBI, wants to identify the person, it can do so if it believes it's necessary in the course of investigations or have probable cause to indicate there may be criminal conduct involved.
Oh? Let’s see your evidence that Mueller has seen Nunes’ memo....Mueller called for a confab with the Trump legal team today...wonder what that is about...Mueller has seen the memo and he knows the jig is up...Wait for what? Why should Flynn have to wait when there are yahoos here insisting his guilty plea should be vacated on Constitutional grounds?
to release the name of the person and investigate.still need a warrant.Redirect NoticeI disagree.No, that's not how it works. If, in the course of legal surveillance of someone else, you inadvertently pick up someone else incriminating themselves, that's completely legal evidence.
They didn't exceed their scope by listening in when Flynn called the Russian ambassador, because Flynn's call was incidental to their legal investigation.
It is my understanding that they still need court approval to unmask the U.S. Person (which is a term of art). They are supposed to completely ignore WHO the U.S. Person is and only look at it for context regarding the foreign agent (who can be tapped without a warrant).
But if the NSA or another agency with which NSA is sharing the information, like the FBI, wants to identify the person, it can do so if it believes it's necessary in the course of investigations or have probable cause to indicate there may be criminal conduct involved.
For what?
Do you mean you haven't learned to take me at my word yet?Oh? Let’s see your evidence that Mueller has seen Nunes’ memo.
It was unmasked that takes a court order...wake up!The ambassador has no doubt been under surveillance for years. That warrant is renewed annually. Long before Trump and his crew arrived
Bologna it was you and you know it...Wasn't me fool I was not on this site at the time. Check the date I signed up. So wrong as usual you delirious old fuck!
It's not suppose to be Obama's FBI but it's not suppose to be Obama's IRS either...how did that work out? Lois Lerner anyone?This is where you come off the rails...this is not Trump's FBI it's Obama's...but it will be Trump's this time next month...Actually, Trump’s own FBI is trying to do that. Should trump listen to the people he put in charge?The left wing nut media is trying to stop it's release...Because it hasn’t been released yet.The memo is big news why is the news media so uninterested in it? Why don't they want to know whats in the damn thing?
it isn't ANY president's FBI.
they don't work for the orange sociopath.
and they were following carter page around for years.... had zero to do with your orange jesus.
and loony toon, chris reye is Donald's boy... not president Obama's .... and HE doesn't want nunes' hack memo released.
nunes better run fast or he's going to end up in jail, too.
Obama also said the ACA would not cost a dime, would pay for itself, that if you liked your plan you could keep your plan, that Benghazi was due to a video, and that he never knew about Hillary's server / private e-mail until he heard about if from the news....
No one forced Flynn to lie. Flynn is not a novice in Intel matters. He had to know the call was monitored.Flynn's indictment was a 'gottcha' crime and in no way evidence that a crime was ever committed warranting an investigation. Thank you, Hutch for pointing out Flynn talking to the Ambassador was not a crime.The ambassador's line was tapped. Flynn should have understood that. It wasn't a crime for him to speak with the ambassador but lying to the FBI is.
Mueller called for a confab with the Trump legal team today...wonder what that is about...Mueller has seen the memo and he knows the jig is up...Wait for what? Why should Flynn have to wait when there are yahoos here insisting his guilty plea should be vacated on Constitutional grounds?
Which 'mistake' was that? We were talking about LIES, which I listed.Obama also said the ACA would not cost a dime, would pay for itself, that if you liked your plan you could keep your plan, that Benghazi was due to a video, and that he never knew about Hillary's server / private e-mail until he heard about if from the news....
He didn't have to say anything. That mistake is Trump's alone.
Flynn will walk...he did nothing wrong...he was being strong armed by Mueller's team to try and get him to spill the beans but it's all over now...the memo will bring all of this bullshit to an end...No one forced Flynn to lie. Flynn is not a novice in Intel matters. He had to know the call was monitored.
He plead guilty.
It wouldn't matter if he was in a stall in the head at a Denny's on the Jersey turnpike. The ambassador's line was monitored.
Wouldn't have mattered - Papa's 'Lying to the FBI' came about from his overheard drunken conversation with an Aussie rep in the lieu of a British Pub...
Doesn't mean he is going to be tried / convicted..... Mueller is suddenly 'having a change of heart' for some reason.No one forced Flynn to lie. Flynn is not a novice in Intel matters. He had to know the call was monitored.Flynn's indictment was a 'gottcha' crime and in no way evidence that a crime was ever committed warranting an investigation. Thank you, Hutch for pointing out Flynn talking to the Ambassador was not a crime.The ambassador's line was tapped. Flynn should have understood that. It wasn't a crime for him to speak with the ambassador but lying to the FBI is.
He plead guilty.
Question Hutch...do you still believe Trump colluded with Putin to steal the election?Mueller called for a confab with the Trump legal team today...wonder what that is about...Mueller has seen the memo and he knows the jig is up...Wait for what? Why should Flynn have to wait when there are yahoos here insisting his guilty plea should be vacated on Constitutional grounds?
More like he's telling him there will be obstruction charges all around if they proceed.
