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West Antarctic ice sheet could collapse, causing significant sea level rise, experts warn | Fox News
The study published in the journal Nature this week, cites the impact of greenhouse gas emissions over the coming decades. Collapsing Antarctic ice could cause sea levels to rise more than 3 feet by 2100, say co-authors Rob DeConto, a geoscientist at the University of Massachusetts Amherst and David Pollard, a palaeoclimatologist at Pennsylvania State University in University Park.

If emissions continue unabated, the scientists warn, atmospheric warming will soon become a “dominant driver” of ice loss, with prolonged ocean warming delaying its recovery for thousands of years.

Fox doesn't lie remember?

Discuss.....
 
Fox News source:

West Antarctic ice sheet could collapse, causing significant sea level rise, experts warn | Fox News
The study published in the journal Nature this week, cites the impact of greenhouse gas emissions over the coming decades. Collapsing Antarctic ice could cause sea levels to rise more than 3 feet by 2100, say co-authors Rob DeConto, a geoscientist at the University of Massachusetts Amherst and David Pollard, a palaeoclimatologist at Pennsylvania State University in University Park.

If emissions continue unabated, the scientists warn, atmospheric warming will soon become a “dominant driver” of ice loss, with prolonged ocean warming delaying its recovery for thousands of years.

Fox doesn't lie remember?

Discuss.....

Yo, BULL-SHIT! You "Radical Socialist Democrats" won`t give up until you can grab more Taxpayer Money!!! LIE, LIE, LIE!!! You remember this BS? Fears that America could be hit by the nuclear fallout from the Japan earthquake dramatically increased today after the reactor hit by the tsunami went into 'meltdown'.

Officials revealed fuel rods are melting inside three damagedreactors at the Fukushima plant, triggering fears of a serious radiation leak.

Scientists in the U.S. warned today of a 'worst-case scenario' in which the highly radioactive material could be blasted into the atmosphere and blown towards the West Coast of America.

They said it could be picked up by powerful 30,000ft winds, carrying the debris across the Pacific and hitting America within four days.

Yo, Scientist? They will say anything to keep feeding their family`s, period! Wake your dead ASS-UP!!! Oh, by the way? Fox News was just reporting the News, not agreeing with the BS!!!

What happen to the tsunami, that was going to hit the West Coast?

Yo, birds have been dying lately in Alaska? Is this from Japan?

"GTP"
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Good looking out. I'll be sure to e-mail my ignorant friends on the uninhabited glaciers of the Antarctic ice sheet.

They must be warned that glaciers move!
 
Yo, BULL-SHIT! You "Radical Socialist Democrats" won`t give up until you can grab more Taxpayer Money!!! LIE, LIE, LIE!!! You remember this BS? Fears that America could be hit by the nuclear fallout from the Japan earthquake dramatically increased today after the reactor hit by the tsunami went into 'meltdown'.

Officials revealed fuel rods are melting inside three damagedreactors at the Fukushima plant, triggering fears of a serious radiation leak.

Yes, I do remember various right-wing kooks pushing Fukushima hysteria.

Is the point you're trying to make that right-wing kooks tend to be hysterical about everything, and should therefore be ignored at all times?

Or is the point that you're a gutless troll, too scared to the discuss the actual topic, so you're desperately trying to deflect from it with this totally irrelevant red herring?
 
aaaaand now for serious responses.....

Seriously, let's waste....err....spend trillions on unreliable energy.
So the climate will stop changing.
Seriously.

Durr.


The private sector is spending it! ;) Solar and wind are first and second most installed sources of energy.

Yo, you mean?
Solyndra Scandal
Key coverage of the investigation into Solyndra, the Silicon Valley startup that collapsed, leaving taxpayers liable for $535 million in federal guarantees!!!

"GTP"
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aaaaand now for serious responses.....

Seriously, let's waste....err....spend trillions on unreliable energy.
So the climate will stop changing.
Seriously.

Durr.


The private sector is spending it! ;) Solar and wind are first and second most installed sources of energy.

Yo, you mean?
Solyndra Scandal
Key coverage of the investigation into Solyndra, the Silicon Valley startup that collapsed, leaving taxpayers liable for $535 million in federal guarantees!!!

"GTP"
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Solyndra ended up making a surplus overall.
 
Yo, BULL-SHIT! You "Radical Socialist Democrats" won`t give up until you can grab more Taxpayer Money!!! LIE, LIE, LIE!!! You remember this BS? Fears that America could be hit by the nuclear fallout from the Japan earthquake dramatically increased today after the reactor hit by the tsunami went into 'meltdown'.

Officials revealed fuel rods are melting inside three damagedreactors at the Fukushima plant, triggering fears of a serious radiation leak.

Yes, I do remember various right-wing kooks pushing Fukushima hysteria.

Is the point you're trying to make that right-wing kooks tend to be hysterical about everything, and should therefore be ignored at all times?

Or is the point that you're a gutless troll, too scared to the discuss the actual topic, so you're desperately trying to deflect from it with this totally irrelevant red herring?

Yo, FOOL? You have it ASS-BACKWARDS? It was your ""Socialist Democrat Puppets"" who made the predictions! You are a spineless piece of dead fish!!!

"GTP"
Yo, your "Spineless Scientist" dressed in Public!
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aaaaand now for serious responses.....

Seriously, let's waste....err....spend trillions on unreliable energy.
So the climate will stop changing.
Seriously.

Durr.


The private sector is spending it! ;) Solar and wind are first and second most installed sources of energy.

Yo, you mean?
Solyndra Scandal
Key coverage of the investigation into Solyndra, the Silicon Valley startup that collapsed, leaving taxpayers liable for $535 million in federal guarantees!!!

"GTP"
View attachment 69684

Solyndra ended up making a surplus overall.

Yo, Go back to China-Town!!!

"GTP"
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aaaaand now for serious responses.....

Seriously, let's waste....err....spend trillions on unreliable energy.
So the climate will stop changing.
Seriously.

Durr.


The private sector is spending it! ;) Solar and wind are first and second most installed sources of energy.

Yes, the private sector does lots of stupid stuff when the government wastes a bunch of money on subsidies.
When the subsidies go away, how much will new installations shrink?
 
The subsidies currently going to the coal industry alone are about 50 Solyndras.

Rambo adores that sort of epic-scale pork and waste. So does Todd. They both think the many billions of subsidies wasted on the fossil fuel industry isn't nearly enough; and won't be happy until we're sending many trillions that way.

Normal people, of course, oppose such socialism-for-the-fossil-fuel industry. We'd rather invest in things that turn a profit. I know, I know, "Profit" is a dirty word to denier socialists.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/24/b...-win-on-price-vs-conventional-fuels.html?_r=0

Utility executives say the trend has accelerated this year, with several companies signing contracts, known as power purchase agreements, for solar or wind at prices below that of natural gas, especially in the Great Plains and Southwest, where wind and sunlight are abundant.

Those prices were made possible by generous subsidies that could soon diminish or expire, but recent analyses show that even without those subsidies, alternative energies can often compete with traditional sources.

In Texas, Austin Energy signed a deal this spring for 20 years of output from a solar farm at less than 5 cents a kilowatt-hour. In September, the Grand River Dam Authority in Oklahoma announced its approval of a new agreement to buy power from a new wind farm expected to be completed next year. Grand River estimated the deal would save its customers roughly $50 million from the project.

And, also in Oklahoma, American Electric Power ended up tripling the amount of wind power it had originally sought after seeing how low the bids came in last year.

“Wind was on sale — it was a Blue Light Special,” said Jay Godfrey, managing director of renewable energy for the company. He noted that Oklahoma, unlike many states, did not require utilities to buy power from renewable sources.

“We were doing it because it made sense for our ratepayers,” he said.

According to a study by the investment banking firm Lazard, the cost of utility-scale solar energy is as low as 5.6 cents a kilowatt-hour, and wind is as low as 1.4 cents. In comparison, natural gas comes at 6.1 cents a kilowatt-hour on the low end and coal at 6.6 cents. Without subsidies, the firm’s analysis shows, solar costs about 7.2 cents a kilowatt-hour at the low end, with wind at 3.7 cents.

While the subsidies sweeten the pot even more, wind and solar are competing even without them. And this is nearly a year old, solar and wind prices are even lower. In the meantime, grid scale batteries are being built, and rapidly coming down in price.
 
However, this is irrelevant to the topic of the thread. The rapidity of the breakup of the West Antarctic ice sheet is surprising the scientists. Just as the rapidity of the shrinking of the Arctic Ice Sheet did. Dr. Hansen in 1981 predicted the shrinkage of the Arctic Ice such that the Northwest Passage would be open occasionally by the end of the 21st century. It first opened in 2007. And has opened a few more years since. It looks like the Antarctic has similiar surprises in store for us.
 
The subsidies currently going to the coal industry alone are about 50 Solyndras.

Rambo adores that sort of epic-scale pork and waste. So does Todd. They both think the many billions of subsidies wasted on the fossil fuel industry isn't nearly enough; and won't be happy until we're sending many trillions that way.

Normal people, of course, oppose such socialism-for-the-fossil-fuel industry. We'd rather invest in things that turn a profit. I know, I know, "Profit" is a dirty word to denier socialists.

The subsidies currently going to the coal industry alone are about 50 Solyndras.

Spell out those coal subsidies.
 

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