Building the Border Fence - A Public/Private Partnership

[bripat9643]

You think I'm in the way of enforcing the law? Nope, Democrats are the ones who refuse to do it. I've always said we don't need any new immigration laws. We only need to enforce the ones we have on the books.

So, stand up and tell them to start handing out massive fines to the people these wetbacks work for eh?

I'm not standing in the way. The people you voted info office are.

They're doing what every other administration has done for the last six decades, treading water and kicking the can down the road.

Wrong, they are actively trying to subvert the laws on the books, which the categorically refuse to enforce. Not only that, but every Democrat mayor and governor in the country refuses to enforce the laws on the books. They even attack people like Sheriff Arpaio who attempt to enforce the immigration laws.

Who do you think you're fooling?

I'm not fooling anyone. I know the six decades of history, which you are ignoring.

Everyone who isn't brain damaged knows who refused to enforce the laws on the books: Democrats.

 

[RKMBrown]

You're a waste of bandwidth. All your claims are idiotic. The idea that illegal entry cannot be drastically reduced no matter how much money the government spends is absurd.

The coast guard already interdicts boats trying to enter U.S waters to search for illegal drugs. If that was an effective means of aliens getting in, they would already be doing it, but they don't.

ROFL you think the coast guard has slowed illegal drug smuggling? You'd have to be the biggest moron on the face of the planet to believe illegals don't come by boat. The biggest moron on the planet. I lived in South Florida. I still visit South Florida. I spent a lot of time out in the water. I used to listen to the planes fly in dropping mj bales and cocaine in the everglades when I lived in corals springs. I'd watch them pick the stuff up with air boats and such as we fished out in the glades. ROFL... Some get caught but it's a small small percentage and more for show than actual security.

The US has 94,000 miles of coast line. Florida has over 8,000. Bringing in illegals and drugs in by boat would be no problem. Unless law enforcement is tipped off, the chance of being caught has to be very small. The only problem with bring in illegals by boat is the cost. About 10% of illegals do enter the US by boat.

Ayup... and if you increase the cost of entering by land you'll just push more people into boats.

And if you build a wall, they'll tunnel under it or fly over it. You can't solve the illegal immigration problem without addressing the reason why they are coming.

If it was so easy, then people would have had no trouble escaping East Germany. We would also still be hearing about suicide bombers killing Israelis. The claim that it's so easy to build tunnels and so hard to stop them is obvious horseshit. It's just another excuse to do nothing.

Only a MORON would not know the difference between a small stretch of wall that is heavily guarded, and thousands of miles of barren land that has a few guards, and the ones that are there have been given orders to help illegals immigrate.

 

[RKMBrown]

How many employers are going to continue to hire illegals if there's jail time involved?

Why do leftwing turds think the solution to every problem is to put business owners in prison? Just admit you're only goal is to punish business owners and not to solve the illegal alien problem.

Our little infant doesn't care about Americans breaking the law, just the taco *******.

Obviously you and all the other turds don't really care about stopping illegal immigration. Punishing business owners is more important that actually doing something about the problem. You're all a bunch of scumbags who are happy to watch your country swirl down the toilet bowl.

Let's us all know when we should begin enforcing American law there my little infant.

Start enforcing them all right now. Tell me when a Democrat enforces any immigration law. I won't be holding my breath.

BTW, there is no jail time for hiring an illegal. That's just a libturd wet dream.

Tell me when a republican enforces any immigration law.. I won't be holding my breath.

 

[RKMBrown]

So, stand up and tell them to start handing out massive fines to the people these wetbacks work for eh?

I'm not standing in the way. The people you voted info office are.

They're doing what every other administration has done for the last six decades, treading water and kicking the can down the road.

Wrong, they are actively trying to subvert the laws on the books, which the categorically refuse to enforce. Not only that, but every Democrat mayor and governor in the country refuses to enforce the laws on the books. They even attack people like Sheriff Arpaio who attempt to enforce the immigration laws.

Who do you think you're fooling?

I'm not fooling anyone. I know the six decades of history, which you are ignoring.

Everyone who isn't brain damaged knows who refused to enforce the laws on the books: Democrats.

Just as many came across when republicans were in charge.

 

[bripat9643]

Why do leftwing turds think the solution to every problem is to put business owners in prison? Just admit you're only goal is to punish business owners and not to solve the illegal alien problem.

Our little infant doesn't care about Americans breaking the law, just the taco *******.

Obviously you and all the other turds don't really care about stopping illegal immigration. Punishing business owners is more important that actually doing something about the problem. You're all a bunch of scumbags who are happy to watch your country swirl down the toilet bowl.

Let's us all know when we should begin enforcing American law there my little infant.

Start enforcing them all right now. Tell me when a Democrat enforces any immigration law. I won't be holding my breath.

BTW, there is no jail time for hiring an illegal. That's just a libturd wet dream.

Tell me when a republican enforces any immigration law.. I won't be holding my breath.

Joe Arpaio.

The Obama Administration has prevented Republicans from enforcing our immigration laws.

 

[bripat9643]

I'm not standing in the way. The people you voted info office are.

They're doing what every other administration has done for the last six decades, treading water and kicking the can down the road.

Wrong, they are actively trying to subvert the laws on the books, which the categorically refuse to enforce. Not only that, but every Democrat mayor and governor in the country refuses to enforce the laws on the books. They even attack people like Sheriff Arpaio who attempt to enforce the immigration laws.

Who do you think you're fooling?

I'm not fooling anyone. I know the six decades of history, which you are ignoring.

Everyone who isn't brain damaged knows who refused to enforce the laws on the books: Democrats.

Just as many came across when republicans were in charge.

Bush was pro-illegal. He was hardly better than Obama. Furthermore, the economy was booming then.

 

[bripat9643]

ROFL you think the coast guard has slowed illegal drug smuggling? You'd have to be the biggest moron on the face of the planet to believe illegals don't come by boat. The biggest moron on the planet. I lived in South Florida. I still visit South Florida. I spent a lot of time out in the water. I used to listen to the planes fly in dropping mj bales and cocaine in the everglades when I lived in corals springs. I'd watch them pick the stuff up with air boats and such as we fished out in the glades. ROFL... Some get caught but it's a small small percentage and more for show than actual security.

The US has 94,000 miles of coast line. Florida has over 8,000. Bringing in illegals and drugs in by boat would be no problem. Unless law enforcement is tipped off, the chance of being caught has to be very small. The only problem with bring in illegals by boat is the cost. About 10% of illegals do enter the US by boat.

Ayup... and if you increase the cost of entering by land you'll just push more people into boats.

And if you build a wall, they'll tunnel under it or fly over it. You can't solve the illegal immigration problem without addressing the reason why they are coming.

If it was so easy, then people would have had no trouble escaping East Germany. We would also still be hearing about suicide bombers killing Israelis. The claim that it's so easy to build tunnels and so hard to stop them is obvious horseshit. It's just another excuse to do nothing.

Only a MORON would not know the difference between a small stretch of wall that is heavily guarded, and thousands of miles of barren land that has a few guards, and the ones that are there have been given orders to help illegals immigrate.

It's easier to guard a fence across barren land. And, as I said, East Germany had a border of several hundred miles with West Germany that also had a fence that had to be guarded. However, they seldom showed that fence in the news.

The Israeli wall around the West bank is about 500 miles long, and they have had zero incursions. How difficult would it be for a country 50 times bigger to build a wall 4 times longer? Obviously it wouldn't be difficult at all.
All your arguments are excuses for doing nothing, and they are obviously wrong.

 

[RKMBrown]

Our little infant doesn't care about Americans breaking the law, just the taco *******.

Obviously you and all the other turds don't really care about stopping illegal immigration. Punishing business owners is more important that actually doing something about the problem. You're all a bunch of scumbags who are happy to watch your country swirl down the toilet bowl.

Let's us all know when we should begin enforcing American law there my little infant.

Start enforcing them all right now. Tell me when a Democrat enforces any immigration law. I won't be holding my breath.

BTW, there is no jail time for hiring an illegal. That's just a libturd wet dream.

Tell me when a republican enforces any immigration law.. I won't be holding my breath.

Joe Arpaio.

The Obama Administration has prevented Republicans from enforcing our immigration laws.

Joe is a sherif not a congressman or president. You are conflating federal agencies with state and local law enforcement.

 

[RKMBrown]

They're doing what every other administration has done for the last six decades, treading water and kicking the can down the road.

Wrong, they are actively trying to subvert the laws on the books, which the categorically refuse to enforce. Not only that, but every Democrat mayor and governor in the country refuses to enforce the laws on the books. They even attack people like Sheriff Arpaio who attempt to enforce the immigration laws.

Who do you think you're fooling?

I'm not fooling anyone. I know the six decades of history, which you are ignoring.

Everyone who isn't brain damaged knows who refused to enforce the laws on the books: Democrats.

Just as many came across when republicans were in charge.

Bush was pro-illegal. He was hardly better than Obama. Furthermore, the economy was booming then.

Ayup that's what I said. republicans are no better...

 

[RKMBrown]

The US has 94,000 miles of coast line. Florida has over 8,000. Bringing in illegals and drugs in by boat would be no problem. Unless law enforcement is tipped off, the chance of being caught has to be very small. The only problem with bring in illegals by boat is the cost. About 10% of illegals do enter the US by boat.

Ayup... and if you increase the cost of entering by land you'll just push more people into boats.

And if you build a wall, they'll tunnel under it or fly over it. You can't solve the illegal immigration problem without addressing the reason why they are coming.

If it was so easy, then people would have had no trouble escaping East Germany. We would also still be hearing about suicide bombers killing Israelis. The claim that it's so easy to build tunnels and so hard to stop them is obvious horseshit. It's just another excuse to do nothing.

Only a MORON would not know the difference between a small stretch of wall that is heavily guarded, and thousands of miles of barren land that has a few guards, and the ones that are there have been given orders to help illegals immigrate.

It's easier to guard a fence across barren land. And, as I said, East Germany had a border of several hundred miles with West Germany that also had a fence that had to be guarded. However, they seldom showed that fence in the news.

The Israeli wall around the West bank is about 500 miles long, and they have had zero incursions. How difficult would it be for a country 50 times bigger to build a wall 4 times longer? Obviously it wouldn't be difficult at all.
All your arguments are excuses for doing nothing, and they are obviously wrong.

ROFL Dude you are not listening. Our government is not gonna put enough troops to defend our border on the border. Without troops the Israeli wall would be a joke. Our GOVERNMENT IS STROKING YOU. If we built a wall or fence it would not be GUARDED. We already have a natural land barrier and it is NOT GUARDED. It's called the RIO-GRANDE. Look it up.

 

[RKMBrown]

 

[bripat9643]

Ayup... and if you increase the cost of entering by land you'll just push more people into boats.

And if you build a wall, they'll tunnel under it or fly over it. You can't solve the illegal immigration problem without addressing the reason why they are coming.

If it was so easy, then people would have had no trouble escaping East Germany. We would also still be hearing about suicide bombers killing Israelis. The claim that it's so easy to build tunnels and so hard to stop them is obvious horseshit. It's just another excuse to do nothing.

Only a MORON would not know the difference between a small stretch of wall that is heavily guarded, and thousands of miles of barren land that has a few guards, and the ones that are there have been given orders to help illegals immigrate.

It's easier to guard a fence across barren land. And, as I said, East Germany had a border of several hundred miles with West Germany that also had a fence that had to be guarded. However, they seldom showed that fence in the news.

The Israeli wall around the West bank is about 500 miles long, and they have had zero incursions. How difficult would it be for a country 50 times bigger to build a wall 4 times longer? Obviously it wouldn't be difficult at all.
All your arguments are excuses for doing nothing, and they are obviously wrong.

ROFL Dude you are not listening. Our government is not gonna put enough troops to defend our border on the border. Without troops the Israeli wall would be a joke. Our GOVERNMENT IS STROKING YOU. If we built a wall or fence it would not be GUARDED. We already have a natural land barrier and it is NOT GUARDED. It's called the RIO-GRANDE. Look it up.

It takes fewer troops to guard a wall than a border with no wall. The president can't pull the entire border patrol away from the border. He undoubtedly would like to, but I don't think he can get away with it politically. All you're saying is that its futile to try to do anything. As always, that's just an excuse for doing nothing.

 

[danielpalos]

So, stand up and tell them to start handing out massive fines to the people these wetbacks work for eh?

I'm not standing in the way. The people you voted info office are.

They're doing what every other administration has done for the last six decades, treading water and kicking the can down the road.

Wrong, they are actively trying to subvert the laws on the books, which the categorically refuse to enforce. Not only that, but every Democrat mayor and governor in the country refuses to enforce the laws on the books. They even attack people like Sheriff Arpaio who attempt to enforce the immigration laws.

Who do you think you're fooling?

I'm not fooling anyone. I know the six decades of history, which you are ignoring.

Everyone who isn't brain damaged knows who refused to enforce the laws on the books: Democrats.

Which laws are those? We have a Commerce Clause the right cannot appeal to ignorance of, simply because they still enjoy practicing their communism in Cuba.

 

[danielpalos]

The US has 94,000 miles of coast line. Florida has over 8,000. Bringing in illegals and drugs in by boat would be no problem. Unless law enforcement is tipped off, the chance of being caught has to be very small. The only problem with bring in illegals by boat is the cost. About 10% of illegals do enter the US by boat.

Ayup... and if you increase the cost of entering by land you'll just push more people into boats.

And if you build a wall, they'll tunnel under it or fly over it. You can't solve the illegal immigration problem without addressing the reason why they are coming.

If it was so easy, then people would have had no trouble escaping East Germany. We would also still be hearing about suicide bombers killing Israelis. The claim that it's so easy to build tunnels and so hard to stop them is obvious horseshit. It's just another excuse to do nothing.

Only a MORON would not know the difference between a small stretch of wall that is heavily guarded, and thousands of miles of barren land that has a few guards, and the ones that are there have been given orders to help illegals immigrate.

It's easier to guard a fence across barren land. And, as I said, East Germany had a border of several hundred miles with West Germany that also had a fence that had to be guarded. However, they seldom showed that fence in the news.

The Israeli wall around the West bank is about 500 miles long, and they have had zero incursions. How difficult would it be for a country 50 times bigger to build a wall 4 times longer? Obviously it wouldn't be difficult at all.
All your arguments are excuses for doing nothing, and they are obviously wrong.

Sure; why not ask our federal Congress for a "good neighbor" fence tax.

 

[danielpalos]

Obviously you and all the other turds don't really care about stopping illegal immigration. Punishing business owners is more important that actually doing something about the problem. You're all a bunch of scumbags who are happy to watch your country swirl down the toilet bowl.

Let's us all know when we should begin enforcing American law there my little infant.

Start enforcing them all right now. Tell me when a Democrat enforces any immigration law. I won't be holding my breath.

BTW, there is no jail time for hiring an illegal. That's just a libturd wet dream.

Tell me when a republican enforces any immigration law.. I won't be holding my breath.

Joe Arpaio.

The Obama Administration has prevented Republicans from enforcing our immigration laws.

Joe is a sherif not a congressman or president. You are conflating federal agencies with state and local law enforcement.

He must have missed that episode on GunSmoke where a federal marshal, a county sheriff, and a town marshal; had to provide an object lesson on the body of laws enabled through our federal doctrine of separation of powers.

 

[danielpalos]

And if you build a wall, they'll tunnel under it or fly over it. You can't solve the illegal immigration problem without addressing the reason why they are coming.

If it was so easy, then people would have had no trouble escaping East Germany. We would also still be hearing about suicide bombers killing Israelis. The claim that it's so easy to build tunnels and so hard to stop them is obvious horseshit. It's just another excuse to do nothing.

Only a MORON would not know the difference between a small stretch of wall that is heavily guarded, and thousands of miles of barren land that has a few guards, and the ones that are there have been given orders to help illegals immigrate.

It's easier to guard a fence across barren land. And, as I said, East Germany had a border of several hundred miles with West Germany that also had a fence that had to be guarded. However, they seldom showed that fence in the news.

The Israeli wall around the West bank is about 500 miles long, and they have had zero incursions. How difficult would it be for a country 50 times bigger to build a wall 4 times longer? Obviously it wouldn't be difficult at all.
All your arguments are excuses for doing nothing, and they are obviously wrong.

ROFL Dude you are not listening. Our government is not gonna put enough troops to defend our border on the border. Without troops the Israeli wall would be a joke. Our GOVERNMENT IS STROKING YOU. If we built a wall or fence it would not be GUARDED. We already have a natural land barrier and it is NOT GUARDED. It's called the RIO-GRANDE. Look it up.

It takes fewer troops to guard a wall than a border with no wall. The president can't pull the entire border patrol away from the border. He undoubtedly would like to, but I don't think he can get away with it politically. All you're saying is that its futile to try to do anything. As always, that's just an excuse for doing nothing.

sure; go for it; we need to reverse the silly argument that lowering taxes can win our wars on crime, drugs, illegals, poverty, and terror...blah...blah...blah.

 

[RKMBrown]

And if you build a wall, they'll tunnel under it or fly over it. You can't solve the illegal immigration problem without addressing the reason why they are coming.

If it was so easy, then people would have had no trouble escaping East Germany. We would also still be hearing about suicide bombers killing Israelis. The claim that it's so easy to build tunnels and so hard to stop them is obvious horseshit. It's just another excuse to do nothing.

Only a MORON would not know the difference between a small stretch of wall that is heavily guarded, and thousands of miles of barren land that has a few guards, and the ones that are there have been given orders to help illegals immigrate.

It's easier to guard a fence across barren land. And, as I said, East Germany had a border of several hundred miles with West Germany that also had a fence that had to be guarded. However, they seldom showed that fence in the news.

The Israeli wall around the West bank is about 500 miles long, and they have had zero incursions. How difficult would it be for a country 50 times bigger to build a wall 4 times longer? Obviously it wouldn't be difficult at all.
All your arguments are excuses for doing nothing, and they are obviously wrong.

ROFL Dude you are not listening. Our government is not gonna put enough troops to defend our border on the border. Without troops the Israeli wall would be a joke. Our GOVERNMENT IS STROKING YOU. If we built a wall or fence it would not be GUARDED. We already have a natural land barrier and it is NOT GUARDED. It's called the RIO-GRANDE. Look it up.

It takes fewer troops to guard a wall than a border with no wall. The president can't pull the entire border patrol away from the border. He undoubtedly would like to, but I don't think he can get away with it politically. All you're saying is that its futile to try to do anything. As always, that's just an excuse for doing nothing.

Bullshit. It does not take fewer troops to guard a river than it does a river with a stupid looking wall. Right now we pretty much have ZERO PEOPLE GUARDING OUR BORDER. They have been re-tasked by Obama to help illegals cross into the country.

 

[danielpalos]

If it was so easy, then people would have had no trouble escaping East Germany. We would also still be hearing about suicide bombers killing Israelis. The claim that it's so easy to build tunnels and so hard to stop them is obvious horseshit. It's just another excuse to do nothing.

Only a MORON would not know the difference between a small stretch of wall that is heavily guarded, and thousands of miles of barren land that has a few guards, and the ones that are there have been given orders to help illegals immigrate.

It's easier to guard a fence across barren land. And, as I said, East Germany had a border of several hundred miles with West Germany that also had a fence that had to be guarded. However, they seldom showed that fence in the news.

The Israeli wall around the West bank is about 500 miles long, and they have had zero incursions. How difficult would it be for a country 50 times bigger to build a wall 4 times longer? Obviously it wouldn't be difficult at all.
All your arguments are excuses for doing nothing, and they are obviously wrong.

ROFL Dude you are not listening. Our government is not gonna put enough troops to defend our border on the border. Without troops the Israeli wall would be a joke. Our GOVERNMENT IS STROKING YOU. If we built a wall or fence it would not be GUARDED. We already have a natural land barrier and it is NOT GUARDED. It's called the RIO-GRANDE. Look it up.

It takes fewer troops to guard a wall than a border with no wall. The president can't pull the entire border patrol away from the border. He undoubtedly would like to, but I don't think he can get away with it politically. All you're saying is that its futile to try to do anything. As always, that's just an excuse for doing nothing.

Bullshit. It does not take fewer troops to guard a river than it does a river with a stupid looking wall. Right now we pretty much have ZERO PEOPLE GUARDING OUR BORDER. They have been re-tasked by Obama to help illegals cross into the country.

Why not ask Congress for a Tax for a war on illegals?

 

[OnePercenter]

Jail time for what. Bearing true witness to a federal doctrine and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will?

Violating law.

Libertarianism Makes You Stupid

what law? Bearing true witness to a federal doctrine and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will?

Thanks for making my point!

 

[OnePercenter]

Why do leftwing turds think the solution to every problem is to put business owners in prison? Just admit you're only goal is to punish business owners and not to solve the illegal alien problem.

It's called removing financial incentive. Shouldn't people that violate the law be punished? I think they do that in Canada too.