Zone1 How do we know if the Bible is true?

[Procrustes Stretched]

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[irosie91]

Lolol not everyone in northern Europe got sucked in by Samuel Untermyer and Christian Zionism.

Oh you forgot about ODIN?

Lolol not everyone in northern Europe got sucked in by Samuel Untermyer and Christian Zionism.

SUCKED?----they got roman christianity imposed upon them by
those genocidal imperialists----to wit THE ROMANS. Baptism and
all that crap was a lot better than burning in the HOLY AUTO DE FE

 

[surada]

oh---"soon" in reference to what?

Within a generation..40 years.

 

[surada]

Oh you forgot about ODIN?

SUCKED?----they got roman christianity imposed upon them by
those genocidal imperialists----to wit THE ROMANS. Baptism and
all that crap was a lot better than burning in the HOLY AUTO DE FE

The Scofield Bible—The Book That Made Zionists of America’s Evangelical Christians

WRMEA, October 2015, pp. 45-46 Christianity and the Middle East The Scofield Bible—The Book That Made Zionists of America’s Evangelical Christians By Maidhc

www.wrmea.org

Since it was first published in 1909, the Scofield Reference Bible has made uncompromising Zionists out of tens of millions of Americans. When John Hagee, the founder of Christians United for Israel (CUFI), said that “50 million evangelical bible-believing Christians unite with five million American Jews standing together on behalf of Israel,” it was the Scofield Bible that he was talking about.

Although the Scofield Reference Bible contains the text of the King James Authorized Version, it is not the traditional Protestant bible but Cyrus I. Scofield’s annotated commentary that is problematic. More than any other factor, it is Scofield’s notes that have induced generations of American evangelicals to believe that God demands their uncritical support for the modern State of Israel.

 

[irosie91]

Within a generation..40 years.

within a generation of WHOM ---the term generation is usually defined as 20 years---ie when the ladies begin to REPRODUCE except for KAMILA ----which is an interesting fact----she seems to
have never reproduced which can create a "psychological" problem
in a woman-----even I reproduced---well ---not a whole lot

 

[Woodznutz]

According to the NT the Israel of God are those who are born again in Christ, not anti-Christ non-Christian Jews. The true Jews are those who are attached to the vine (i.e. Christ) and haven't been cut off by rejecting Jesus. That's the NT, so any attempt to give those who call themselves Jews and reject Jesus, the status of being Israel, are serving Satan, not YHWH. That's what's Biblical, but since "Christian Zionists" are under the spell of anti-Christ, Zionist Jewry, they think the "Israel" on the map, led by demonic, anti-Christ Jews, is the actual Israel of God. It's not, it's anti-Christ and Satanic:

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Tens of millions of innocent Christians were slaughtered in Russia as a result of Jewish Communist Bolshevism. Millions of non-Jews starved to death, in Ukraine, China..etc, thanks to Jewish communism. The first prime ministers of "Israel" (The Zionist, secular Jewish State), were Marxists, atheists. The government of Israhell today, is secular, it thumbs its nose at YHWH every single day. These anti-Christ Jews are sodomizing the Holy Land with their filth.

This is what you support as a "Christian Zionist", due to your ignorance and obsession with anti-Christ "Jews".

Interesting, but why is this a response to my post?

 

[surada]

But it is the people of the Middle East who have been most affected by an expansionist Israel emboldened by the unswerving allegiance of Christian Zionists led to believe that Scofield’s words are God’s will. Not least among the many victims of the Scofield Bible are 5 million Palestinian refugees whose right to return is fervently opposed by America’s Zionized Christians.

Thanks to their indoctrination by Scofield’s unholy book, they believe that Palestine belongs not to the Palestinians—many of whom are fellow Christians—but exclusively to “God’s chosen people.”

 

[irosie91]

The Scofield Bible—The Book That Made Zionists of America’s Evangelical Christians

WRMEA, October 2015, pp. 45-46 Christianity and the Middle East The Scofield Bible—The Book That Made Zionists of America’s Evangelical Christians By Maidhc

www.wrmea.org

Since it was first published in 1909, the Scofield Reference Bible has made uncompromising Zionists out of tens of millions of Americans. When John Hagee, the founder of Christians United for Israel (CUFI), said that “50 million evangelical bible-believing Christians unite with five million American Jews standing together on behalf of Israel,” it was the Scofield Bible that he was talking about.

Although the Scofield Reference Bible contains the text of the King James Authorized Version, it is not the traditional Protestant bible but Cyrus I. Scofield’s annotated commentary that is problematic. More than any other factor, it is Scofield’s notes that have induced generations of American evangelicals to believe that God demands their uncritical support for the modern State of Israel.

Oh gee----american christians ARE THAT STUPID----most are the descendants of limey "DEISTS" and Lutheran nazis

 

[The Irish Ram]

The tribulation was over by the fall of Masada or by 70 AD.. depending on the scholar. Christians fled to the mountains..to Pella... and avoided the whole thing.

The way you can tell the difference between what happened then and what is to come is to recognize the other things Christ said to look for.
Was the gospel being preached worldwide in 70 AD? Was there a 7 year peace treaty with Israel? Were their weapons that dissolved eyeballs in their sockets? Did the world watch as 2 of God's prophets rose from the dead?
I could go on with 100 more, but there is no need. None of the things Jesus described happened in 70 AD. They are in our near future.

 

[surada]

within a generation of WHOM ---the term generation is usually defined as 20 years---ie when the ladies begin to REPRODUCE except for KAMILA ----which is an interesting fact----she seems to
have never reproduced which can create a "psychological" problem
in a woman-----even I reproduced---well ---not a whole lot

40 years is considered a generation. Are you trashing Kamala Harris for not having children?

 

[surada]

Oh gee----american christians ARE THAT STUPID----most are the descendants of limey "DEISTS" and Lutheran nazis

They promoted the Scofield heresy during the Depression and the Dust Bowl years with traveling tent revivals. It was attractive to the poor and uneducated until the 1970s.

 

[The Irish Ram]

What tribes? That's obviously not to be understood literally because the ten tribes are lost. The church or body of Christ, is the Israel of God, not the Jews that are cut off from the vine as Paul explicitly argues. Jesus in Matthew stated that the Jews of his age would lose the kingdom of God. It would be given to another nation, bearing the fruits of his father's kingdom. The Palestinians have more Middle-Eastern genetics, than the Ashkenazi European Jews. Assuming they even have any Middle-Eastern DNA at all. The Palestinians in general, have unique genetic connection to the Holy Land, going back thousands of years. They are the Israelites who converted to Christianity and Islam.

Your eschatology is flawed.

Revelation 7:4, “Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

Apparently, God knows exactly where they are...

 

[irosie91]

40 years is considered a generation. Are you trashing Kamala Harris for not having children?

I do not trash anyone for their medical conditions---I recognize the fact that such issues have an effect on the psychology of those
afflicted

 

[Woodznutz]

irosie91

Caspar? You lost me.

The return of Jesus and the end of the world aren't the same thing.

Jesus is returning for the purpose of ending this age of evil.

 

[irosie91]

They promoted the Scofield heresy during the Depression and the Dust Bowl years with traveling tent revivals. It was attractive to the poor and uneducated until the 1970s.

Interesting----way back in the day---christianity was recognized as attractive to slaves and criminals----I forget who said that----not a jew

 

[irosie91]

Jesus is returning for the purpose of ending this age of evil.

that's nice----it is consistent with the prophesy of Isaiah.
I hope it HAPPENS

 

[surada]

Revelation 7:4, “Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

Apparently, God knows exactly where they are...

So you take that literally too.

 

[irosie91]

So you take that literally too.

oh How do you take that BS?

 

[Woodznutz]

What tribes? That's obviously not to be understood literally because the ten tribes are lost. The church or body of Christ, is the Israel of God, not the Jews that are cut off from the vine as Paul explicitly argues. Jesus in Matthew stated that the Jews of his age would lose the kingdom of God. It would be given to another nation, bearing the fruits of his father's kingdom. The Palestinians have more Middle-Eastern genetics, than the Ashkenazi European Jews. Assuming they even have any Middle-Eastern DNA at all. The Palestinians in general, have unique genetic connection to the Holy Land, going back thousands of years. They are the Israelites who converted to Christianity and Islam.

Your eschatology is flawed.

Most of the tribal descendants of Israel are alive and well. They just aren't identifiable as "tribes" or as "Israelites". They are the nations that are bearing the fruits of God's spirit, the Christian west.

 

[irosie91]

Most of the tribal descendants of Israel are alive and well. They just aren't identifiable as "tribes" or as "Israelites". They are the nations that are bearing the fruits of God's spirit, the Christian west.

One tribe is still recognized as such---to wit THE LEVITES ---
and even verified by DNA analysis.