Bundy Ranch - What You're Not Being Told

[Stephanie]

holy smokes
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In this we're going to present you with evidence of blatant corruption and criminal activities that anyone, including law enforcement, can easily verify.

But before we go into the details, it's important to acknowledge here, that the political left and the political right are watching this crisis through very different eyes. You on the left saw this old rancher defying the Federal government over cattle grazing fees, with right wing pundits pleading his case, and armed militia moving in to intervene... it probably gave you the impression of Tea Party temper tantrum... with guns. Given some of the personalities who were involved in the media circus surrounding this, that impression is perfectly understandable, but underneath the appearances there is something here that all Americans need to see, whether they consider themselves conservative, liberal or none of the above.

All I ask is that you suspend your preconceived notions of what this crisis was about, for five minutes.

First let's eliminate some of the disinformation, speculation and conspiracy theories.

Here's a story that a lot of people were spreading around without fact checking. It got 47,000 shares on Facebook alone. The author claims that the siege of the Bundy ranch was about was really about fracking leases. That's a provocative narrative, one that I actually found very interesting. But just because something is plausible doesn't mean it's true. For evidence, the article links out to this page on the shalereporter.com, which does indeed talk about Bureau of Land Management (aka BLM) leasing out land in Nevada for Fracking. Trouble is, the author and 47,000 other people overlooked the blatantly obvious fact that the land in question is in north eastern Nevada. Clark county isn't in North Eastern Nevada. That's not a minor detail. Please, pretty please with a cherry on top, fact check before you spread information people. Always fact check.

Then there was this other line that kept getting spread around (and this is a direct quote):
"There are developers working for military contractors that want that land and water for mining weapons grade minerals for industry... they want to sell the land by the highway for real estate development because it's close to I-15". This claim wasn't backed up by even so much as a link. It was pure hearsay. Furthermore it doesn't even make sense. Military contractors (like Blackwater) want land for mining? And weapons grade minerals? To be perfectly honest I get the impression that this story was fabricated by some stoned college kid who thought it would be hilarious to send it to an alternative media outlet as a prank. You got to admit as prank that's pretty epic, especially since it worked. A media figure with a fairly decent sized audience, and I'm not going to name names, blasted it out to the public as is without asking for evidence or even critically examining the claim. A lot of people took that report and started spreading it around, and pretty soon there were people just repeating the narrative not even knowing where it came from. That's bad. Providing an echo chamber unfounded rumors and wild speculation is not journalism. The alternative media really needs to tighten their standards of evidence.

Alright, moving along, here we have this story that the showdown in Nevada was really about an underhanded business deal involving Senator Harry Reid, his son, the BLM and a 5 billion dollar solar energy plant. You probably saw a few people sharing links making these claims. Let's fact check.

Claim number one: Senator Harry Reid's son, Rory Reid (try saying that name ten times as fast as you can), is the primary representative for ENN energy group, a Chinese energy company involved in a $5 billion solar project planned for Clark County Nevada, on the on land where the Bundy ranch is located. First source: Reuters: Aug 31, 2012. Well this is interesting. It turns out that the conflicts of interest in this project were well documented, but Harry pushed it through anyway. He pushed it through in spite of the controversy that was stirred up when the land was sold to ENN for $4.5 million dollars even though separate appraisals valued the land at between $29.6 million and $38.6 million.

Claim number two: Reid put one of his former employees in charge of the Bureau of land management and thereby used his leverage in the agency to clear the Bundy's off the land. What do they claim as their source: CBS Las Vegas. Hmmm... That's interesting. Neil Kornze, the current BLM Chief is a former adviser for Harry Reid, and Harry Reid is the Senate Majority leader, and therefore was directly involved in his confirmation. That's another serious conflict of interest there considering that the BLM is claiming jurisdiction over the land where Rory Reid's company wants to build.

But do we have any evidence that Reid actually exercised that influence in the agency to get what he wanted? Well that brings us to claim number three: Supposedly the BLM had posted on their website that they needed to get the Bundy family off of the land to make room for the energy project, but the BLM has since removed the page. The website that made this claim posted a screen shot split into two files and a link to a text version of the page that someone had copied. This is pretty weak. Though it does seem to match the overall narrative here, this would never be admissible in court. But let's dig a little deeper shall we. What if there is a version of the site cached somewhere on the web? Let's try the way back machine on archive.org. Nope, no dice, the page was never cached on way back machine. Let's try google's cache... BINGO! Here it is folks. This is google's record of what used to be on the site.

To download the full screenshot, right click on the image below and select "Save Image As".
Bundy Ranch - Page That they took down from the BLM website - Solar Project

"Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle"

They specifically referred to the solar project as a justification to seize Cliven Bundy's cattle.

Funny thing, we found the mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy zone, and guess who wrote it? That would be the BLM. Pretty convenient, for Harry Reid isn't it?

Now I took a screen shot of the Google cache right away. As I'm compiling this information I go back and I look at it again an hour later and what do you know, somebody came and took the cached version down. Somebody is trying to cover this thing up and fast. But you know what, they missed one. I found this cached version of the page on archive.is. If you follow the link in the description to our website SCG News.com you'll find a direct link to this page. I highly recommend that each and every one of you go and verify its contents for yourself before someone has it taken down.

Click here to view the cached version of the page that the BLM was desperately trying to hide.

Or click here to get to that link from another path.

But even if they take this last link down they left trail. Google's server logs will still have a record of the exact date their cached snap shot was taken, chances are they still have that snap shot, and you know what? Even if someone tried to erase it completely, with modern technology It is very easy for forensic technicians to recover data like this even if it seems to be deleted from the system. The digital trace is still there. The BLM's servers and every computer involved also have a trail, and trying to remove that trail would leave an even bigger trail.

All we need is somebody in law enforcement with a spine, but that's another story isn't it.

This isn't about turtles folks. It's not even about cattle. This is about money and power.

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[DriftingSand]

That's amazing. We need to spread this video like wildfire and send it to everyone we know and ask them to send it to everyone they know. Bundy was clearly the victim of political strong-arming and the political/corporate thugs behind it need to be brought to justice. Bye bye Reid. Time to go.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Harry Reid is a genuine traitor and should be impeached

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[Old Rocks]

LOL. So one of the fruitloops makes a video with what he claims is evidence. Seems we have been here before with the Birthers.

So, let said fruitloop go to court and introduce the evidence that he claims to have. He won't do that, because it will be proven false, just as all the Birther evidence was proven false. You fruitloops have been caught out too many times creating false 'documents' to retain any credibility at all.

 

[DriftingSand]

LOL. So one of the fruitloops makes a video with what he claims is evidence. Seems we have been here before with the Birthers.

So, let said fruitloop go to court and introduce the evidence that he claims to have. He won't do that, because it will be proven false, just as all the Birther evidence was proven false. You fruitloops have been caught out too many times creating false 'documents' to retain any credibility at all.

I thought you Libs were opposed to corporate interests stepping on the rights of the people. How quickly your opinions change when one of your political icons is spearheading the thuggery.

 

[Old Rocks]

My mothers family has been involved in ranching in Eastern Oregon since the 1860's. And I still have cousins that own ranches. You don't graze public land for free, and you do not damage the land by overgrazing. That is the law.

It is not a matter of corperate interests. Particularly as that video is composed almost entirely of lies. It has been posted here repeatedly that the solar farm in question was not going to be built in that area, and was canceled over a year ago.

This is about a man calling in a bunch of armed thugs to protect his illegal activities. The armed thugs should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

 

[Snouter]

That is the law.

Blacks are considered 3/5ths of a human in the Constitution. Just because something is "law" does not mean it is right.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"You don't graze public land for free, and you do not damage the land by overgrazing. That is the law."

Bundy imported gun thugs. If he keeps doing this, he puts himself and his family and his friends at serious risk.

 

[Stephanie]

Scratch a liberal find a fascist deep down inside

All these uppity libs would be singing a different tune if it were THEIR PROPERTY and their Families home the government was trying to take with armed men and women standing at their front door for their children to watch

some of you make me ill

 

[JakeStarkey]

We don't graze our livestock for free on the We the People's land, kiddos.

This will end very badly for Bundy if he does not act like an American.

 

[Iceweasel]

My mothers family has been involved in ranching in Eastern Oregon since the 1860's. And I still have cousins that own ranches. You don't graze public land for free, and you do not damage the land by overgrazing. That is the law.

It is not a matter of corperate interests. Particularly as that video is composed almost entirely of lies. It has been posted here repeatedly that the solar farm in question was not going to be built in that area, and was canceled over a year ago.

This is about a man calling in a bunch of armed thugs to protect his illegal activities. The armed thugs should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

If you have family in farming that means they haven't been run off yet. And when the feds decide they want the land and hike up the fees you will calmly tell them, "it's the law". Bullshit. And the solar plant was scrapped for now because the feds couldn't force any utility company to guarantee the purchase of energy so they weren't going to invest and try to compete in the marketplace. Where the deal was made with corporate/government cronyism, like in California, they got the green light. I understand Harry was there for the ceremonies recently. When they get the green energy legislation passed, the Chinese will be back.

 

[JakeStarkey]

iceweasel, what you need to know with your attitude: don't be a welfare cheat, like Bundy, on We the People's land. Cheat like Bundy get caught.

 

[Stephanie]

another take on all this
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RORY REID, SON OF SEN. HARRY REID: We believe in a country in which we are subject to laws and you can’t just ignore the laws we don’t like. I think clearly if state and local prosecutors look at this more closely, they’re going to find that he broke the law and he should be prosecuted…

REID: He is not a victim and he’s not a hero. He’s been using that he doesn’t own for over 20 years and he didn’t pay. He broke the law. There are hundreds of ranchers throughout Nevada that conduct their profession honorably. There’s thousands of them throughout the country and when they have a dispute with the BLM they try to work it out.


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“You’ve got to find candidates who can win and then you don’t have to worry about Harry Reid,” said co-host Greg Gutfeld after lamenting the GOP’s choice of nominee to face Reid in his 2010 Senate reelection bid. “We don’t want to focus too much on this battle. We should see that the bigger battle is at the ballot box.”

Turning to Perino, co-host Eric Bolling asked if the rumors that Reid’s son had engaged a Chinese firm to build a solar plant on the disputed real estate or that a former Reid aide who now heads the Bureau of Land Management had any merit.

Perino said that the rumors about a solar plant were “debunked” and Reid’s former aide was confirmed by a bipartisan Senate majority. “There are good staffers out there,” Perino asserted.

“I think wishful thinking is one of conservatives’ worst enemies,” she added.


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TUCKER CARLSON: It was moving in an ugly direction and I think the Feds exacerbated it by showing up with snarling dogs and drawn weapons.That’s appropriate when you are dealing with a drug cartel, not an elderly rancher. On the other hand, the Bundys don’t have a legal case that I can see to be totally honest about it.

And this is public land, this is not land that they owned. And if you are going to use public land for profit, you have to pay for it. And they haven’t. And so the bottom line is this is something I think conservatives ought to remember, if you want a ranch without any impediment at all, you have to buy your own ranch. That is the essence, that is the core principle behind private property which undergirds conservatism.

I have a lot of sympathy for the Bundys. I think they were completely mistreated by the federal government. But I still think it’s important to point out that this land does not belong to them and that’s not a minor distinction, it’s the essence of private property. Sorry.


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t is obvious that some activities are favored by the Obama administration’s BLM, and others are disfavored. The favored developments include solar and wind projects. No surprise there: the developers of such projects are invariably major Democratic Party donors. Wind and solar energy survive only by virtue of federal subsidies, so influencing people like Barack Obama and Harry Reid is fundamental to the developers’ business plans. Ranchers, on the other hand, ask nothing from the federal government other than the continuation of their historic rights. It is a safe bet that Cliven Bundy is not an Obama or Reid contributor.

The new head of the BLM is a former Reid staffer. Presumably he was placed in his current position on Reid’s recommendation. Harry Reid is known to be a corrupt politician, one who has gotten wealthy on a public employee’s salary, in part, at least, by benefiting from sweetheart real estate deals. Does Harry Reid now control more than 80% of the territory of Nevada? If you need federal authority to conduct business in Nevada–which is overwhelmingly probable–do you need to pay a bribe to Harry Reid or a member of his family to get that permission? Why is it that the BLM is deeply concerned about desert tortoises when it comes to ranchers, but couldn’t care less when the solar power developers from China come calling? Environmentalists have asked this question. Does the difference lie in the fact that Cliven Bundy has never contributed to an Obama or Reid campaign, or paid a bribe to Reid or a member of his family?…

So let’s have some sympathy for Cliven Bundy and his family. They don’t have a chance on the law, because under the Endangered Species Act and many other federal statutes, the agencies are always in the right. And their way of life is one that, frankly, is on the outs. They don’t develop apps. They don’t ask for food stamps. It probably has never occurred to them to bribe a politician. They don’t subsist by virtue of government subsidies or regulations that hamstring competitors. They aren’t illegal immigrants. They have never even gone to law school. So what possible place is there for the Bundys in the Age of Obama?


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The disproportionate nature of the government’s reaction to Bundy suggests this has less to do with delinquent grazing fees than it does with the selective assertion of raw governmental power — sending a message not just to Bundy or a disfavored group, but to America as a whole. The same federal government that deploys Bureau of Land Management shooters tricked out like SEAL Team 6 directs Border Patrol agents to flee from aggressive illegal immigrants. The same federal government that would fire and prosecute federal agents who physically restrain border-crossers sends agents to tase and sic German shepherds on ordinary Americans exercising First Amendment rights.

One can acknowledge that the government has the right — in fact, the responsibility — to enforce the law, yet object that this administration habitually enforces the law in a capricious, arbitrary, and discriminatory manner. They imperiously go after a Bundy while excusing scores of miscreants whose get-out-of-jail-free card is membership in a politically-correct class. They regularly waive legal requirements out of sheer political expediency. They fail to defend duly enacted statutes with which they, the enlightened, disagree.

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[TheIceMan]

The Federal government will win. It always does.

 

[RKMBrown]

The Federal government will win. It always does.

The swan song of all tyrant supporters... we can't loose!

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The Federal government will win. It always does.

Actually, the law does not always win. He's managed to get away with breaking the law for a long time.

But, it looks like that's coming to an end.

RORY REID, SON OF SEN. HARRY REID: We believe in a country in which we are subject to laws and you can’t just ignore the laws we don’t like. I think clearly if state and local prosecutors look at this more closely, they’re going to find that he broke the law and he should be prosecuted…

REID: He is not a victim and he’s not a hero. He’s been using that he doesn’t own for over 20 years and he didn’t pay. He broke the law. There are hundreds of ranchers throughout Nevada that conduct their profession honorably. There’s thousands of them throughout the country and when they have a dispute with the BLM they try to work it out.

If you don't like the law, work to change it. But don't break the law and expect to get a walk.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

And blaming this on Reid or Obama is just plain dumb.

Neither of them made the law and it's the rancher who broke the law.

 

[jillian]

If you don't like the law, work to change it. But don't break the law and expect to get a walk.

and worse.... defending a bunch of treasonous nut cases who raise arms against the government.

but what can you expect from the putin supporters.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Harry Reid is a genuine traitor and should be impeached

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Wasn't his great uncle a horse thief? Looks as if this runs in the family. Harry Reid should be removed at once and there should be an independent investigation.

 

[RKMBrown]

The Federal government will win. It always does.

Actually, the law does not always win. He's managed to get away with breaking the law for a long time.

But, it looks like that's coming to an end.

RORY REID, SON OF SEN. HARRY REID: We believe in a country in which we are subject to laws and you can’t just ignore the laws we don’t like. I think clearly if state and local prosecutors look at this more closely, they’re going to find that he broke the law and he should be prosecuted…

REID: He is not a victim and he’s not a hero. He’s been using that he doesn’t own for over 20 years and he didn’t pay. He broke the law. There are hundreds of ranchers throughout Nevada that conduct their profession honorably. There’s thousands of them throughout the country and when they have a dispute with the BLM they try to work it out.

If you don't like the law, work to change it. But don't break the law and expect to get a walk.

When the law is broken, the law should not expect to get a walk. Though it's understandable that people like you would defend their god emperors no matter what they do just so long as they don't do it to you.