Bush worst president in 100 years.

[Mustang]

Only right-wing loons would see it otherwise. Us neutrals and the left have said this all along.

Bush worst president in 100 years.

I couldn't help but wonder if Bush was certifiably crazy when he launched the invasion of Iraq because I knew what a fiasco it was going to be simply because I knew the history of the region.

But to my eternal astonishment, the Bush folks screwed up the occupation worse than I thought was humanly possible even if it had been run by Peter Sellers and the Keystone Kops. Even today I can't help but ask myself how could the America that successfully fought a two-front war in WWII, and managed to secretly and successully launch the D-Day invasion on Normandy in Europe, and then later organized and deployed the Marshall Plan mess this thing up so monumentally?

It makes me wonder what Ike would say if he was still alive today and he heard W compare himself to Winston Churchill.

Wow you must have been some kind of prophet! Maybe Obama should hire you for his national security advisor.
Twerp.

Presidents have the benefit of being able to call on experts from all disciplines as advisors. All the staff has to do is pick up the phone and ask for them to put together a presentation for aides as well as any and all decision makers. What puzzled me even at the time was where were all the ME history experts on issues ranging from tribal rivalries to Sunni/Shia historical conflicts as well as the political realities of how the country of Iraq was created in the first place in order to have a real handle on what we as a country were getting into with the decision to invade a part of the world with an entirely different culture and historical reality?

I just got the impression that the Bush people never seriously entertained any opinions other than their own. They went in with a set of preconceived assumptions (like liberating Iraq was going to be the Arabic equivalent of liberating France from the German occupation), and believing it was enough to make it a reality as far as they were concerned.

The problem was that it was little more than a fantasy of wishful thinking.

 

[jillian]

I couldn't help but wonder if Bush was certifiably crazy when he launched the invasion of Iraq because I knew what a fiasco it was going to be simply because I knew the history of the region.

But to my eternal astonishment, the Bush folks screwed up the occupation worse than I thought was humanly possible even if it had been run by Peter Sellers and the Keystone Kops. Even today I can't help but ask myself how could the America that successfully fought a two-front war in WWII, and managed to secretly and successully launch the D-Day invasion on Normandy in Europe, and then later organized and deployed the Marshall Plan mess this thing up so monumentally?

It makes me wonder what Ike would say if he was still alive today and he heard W compare himself to Winston Churchill.

Wow you must have been some kind of prophet! Maybe Obama should hire you for his national security advisor.
Twerp.

Presidents have the benefit of being able to call on experts from all disciplines as advisors. All the staff has to do is pick up the phone and ask for them to put together a presentation for aides as well as any and all decision makers. What puzzled me even at the time was where were all the ME history experts on issues ranging from tribal rivalries to Sunni/Shia historical conflicts as well as the political realities of how the country of Iraq was created in the first place in order to have a real handle on what we as a country were getting into with the decision to invade a part of the world with an entirely different culture and historical reality?

I just got the impression that the Bush people never seriously entertained any opinions other than their own. They went in with a set of preconceived assumptions (like liberating Iraq was going to be the Arabic equivalent of liberating France from the German occupation), and believing it was enough to make it a reality as far as they were concerned.

The problem was that it was little more than a fantasy of wishful thinking.

They did know. Firstly, daddy bush's state department told him, during gulf 1, that going in to baghdad would destabilize the entire country. that's why he stopped where he did. baby bush knew this and it appears he wanted to prove himself by doing what his daddy couldn't. plus, if you recall, his NSA director was condi. her expertise was russia. and he had cheney and the neocons from the PNAC at his back demanding he "reshape the middle east", which clinton ignored and which they felt they were in a position to do once they had bush's strings to pull.

see the PNAC letter to bill clinton in 1998 and take note of the signatories....

PNAC letters sent to President Bill Clinton

 

[Pogo]

Only right-wing loons would see it otherwise. Us neutrals and the left have said this all along.

Bush worst president in 100 years.

I couldn't help but wonder if Bush was certifiably crazy when he launched the invasion of Iraq because I knew what a fiasco it was going to be simply because I knew the history of the region.

But to my eternal astonishment, the Bush folks screwed up the occupation worse than I thought was humanly possible even if it had been run by Peter Sellers and the Keystone Kops. Even today I can't help but ask myself how could the America that successfully fought a two-front war in WWII, and managed to secretly and successully launch the D-Day invasion on Normandy in Europe, and then later organized and deployed the Marshall Plan mess this thing up so monumentally?

It makes me wonder what Ike would say if he was still alive today and he heard W compare himself to Winston Churchill.

Actually I'd like to hear what Winston Churchill would say about it. That dood could turn a phrase.

British (female) MP: "If you were my husband, I would poison your coffee!"
Churchill: "If you were my wife --- I would drink it."

 

[AmericanFirst]

Considering how shitty his presidency was going on the tonight show a few times sure couldn't have hurt

Obama is a JOKE of a president and I want you to send me a PM when 2016 so I know he is out of office

I'd rather have a joke than an America destroyer

You have both with obamashitforbrains.

 

[Dr Grump]

I was speaking of the author of the article you found to be so profound and his countrymen. Aussies use to be very independent and proud, now they have become just like their Euro-trash ancestors. If you want the US to become isolationist, be prepared to fight a war on your own turf, we have men and material stationed all over the world to prevent that kind of thing. I'm guessing you've never been in the military, most who have aren't nearly as ignorant as you.

The author of the article is considered right-wing down here (I live in Australia). Australia is independent and proud, and a lot more free than the US (IMO).

If the US wants to be the world police, then act like a humane, honest and upright policeman. One thing I can't stand is that some of your countrymen/women seem to have this attitude of "Yeah, well we are the good guys, although sometimes we have to do bad things". To which I reply, "Bollocks". You don't have to continually interfere in other country's business...

 

[AmericanFirst]

Conservatives have poopy pants. Poll to follow.

Libtards have poop in mouth, evidence in the WH.

 

[The Rabbi]

I couldn't help but wonder if Bush was certifiably crazy when he launched the invasion of Iraq because I knew what a fiasco it was going to be simply because I knew the history of the region.

But to my eternal astonishment, the Bush folks screwed up the occupation worse than I thought was humanly possible even if it had been run by Peter Sellers and the Keystone Kops. Even today I can't help but ask myself how could the America that successfully fought a two-front war in WWII, and managed to secretly and successully launch the D-Day invasion on Normandy in Europe, and then later organized and deployed the Marshall Plan mess this thing up so monumentally?

It makes me wonder what Ike would say if he was still alive today and he heard W compare himself to Winston Churchill.

Wow you must have been some kind of prophet! Maybe Obama should hire you for his national security advisor.
Twerp.

Presidents have the benefit of being able to call on experts from all disciplines as advisors. All the staff has to do is pick up the phone and ask for them to put together a presentation for aides as well as any and all decision makers. What puzzled me even at the time was where were all the ME history experts on issues ranging from tribal rivalries to Sunni/Shia historical conflicts as well as the political realities of how the country of Iraq was created in the first place in order to have a real handle on what we as a country were getting into with the decision to invade a part of the world with an entirely different culture and historical reality?

I just got the impression that the Bush people never seriously entertained any opinions other than their own. They went in with a set of preconceived assumptions (like liberating Iraq was going to be the Arabic equivalent of liberating France from the German occupation), and believing it was enough to make it a reality as far as they were concerned.

The problem was that it was little more than a fantasy of wishful thinking.

So how is it Obama learns everything that happens from the news like the rest of us?

 

[The Rabbi]

I was speaking of the author of the article you found to be so profound and his countrymen. Aussies use to be very independent and proud, now they have become just like their Euro-trash ancestors. If you want the US to become isolationist, be prepared to fight a war on your own turf, we have men and material stationed all over the world to prevent that kind of thing. I'm guessing you've never been in the military, most who have aren't nearly as ignorant as you.

The author of the article is considered right-wing down here (I live in Australia). Australia is independent and proud, and a lot more free than the US (IMO).

If the US wants to be the world police, then act like a humane, honest and upright policeman. One thing I can't stand is that some of your countrymen/women seem to have this attitude of "Yeah, well we are the good guys, although sometimes we have to do bad things". To which I reply, "Bollocks". You don't have to continually interfere in other country's business...

Australia is a place where they sent criminals. Not much has changed.

 

[Dr Grump]

Only right-wing loons would see it otherwise. Us neutrals and the left have said this all along.

Bush worst president in 100 years.

I couldn't help but wonder if Bush was certifiably crazy when he launched the invasion of Iraq because I knew what a fiasco it was going to be simply because I knew the history of the region.

But to my eternal astonishment, the Bush folks screwed up the occupation worse than I thought was humanly possible even if it had been run by Peter Sellers and the Keystone Kops. Even today I can't help but ask myself how could the America that successfully fought a two-front war in WWII, and managed to secretly and successully launch the D-Day invasion on Normandy in Europe, and then later organized and deployed the Marshall Plan mess this thing up so monumentally?

It makes me wonder what Ike would say if he was still alive today and he heard W compare himself to Winston Churchill.

Actually I'd like to hear what Winston Churchill would say about it. That dood could turn a phrase.

British (female) MP: "If you were my husband, I would poison your coffee!"
Churchill: "If you were my wife --- I would drink it."

And it was an American he said it to, too! Nancy Astor....

 

[Dr Grump]

I was speaking of the author of the article you found to be so profound and his countrymen. Aussies use to be very independent and proud, now they have become just like their Euro-trash ancestors. If you want the US to become isolationist, be prepared to fight a war on your own turf, we have men and material stationed all over the world to prevent that kind of thing. I'm guessing you've never been in the military, most who have aren't nearly as ignorant as you.

The author of the article is considered right-wing down here (I live in Australia). Australia is independent and proud, and a lot more free than the US (IMO).

If the US wants to be the world police, then act like a humane, honest and upright policeman. One thing I can't stand is that some of your countrymen/women seem to have this attitude of "Yeah, well we are the good guys, although sometimes we have to do bad things". To which I reply, "Bollocks". You don't have to continually interfere in other country's business...

Australia is a place where they sent criminals. Not much has changed.

So was Georgia? And....BTW, I'm not Australian...

 

[The Rabbi]

The author of the article is considered right-wing down here (I live in Australia). Australia is independent and proud, and a lot more free than the US (IMO).

If the US wants to be the world police, then act like a humane, honest and upright policeman. One thing I can't stand is that some of your countrymen/women seem to have this attitude of "Yeah, well we are the good guys, although sometimes we have to do bad things". To which I reply, "Bollocks". You don't have to continually interfere in other country's business...

Australia is a place where they sent criminals. Not much has changed.

So was Georgia? And....BTW, I'm not Australian...

Georgia changed by becoming part of the U.S. Australia changed by turning to socialism. Are they still pushing that cockamamie global warming carbon shit down there?

 

[Sherry]

He did say 100 years. Nailed it.

What do the revisionists find so bad about Wilson? He ranks highly among historians, do you place Harding, Hoover, and Buchanan above him. If so, re enroll in high school history class.

Worst last 100 years:
Bush II-Harding (tie)
Hoover
Reagan
Coolidge

Best
FDR
Truman
Eisenhower
Theordore Roosevelt
Nixon
Clinton

I don't know about the revisionistas but Wilson was a racist megalomaniac nutcase who stuck our nose into Latin America and even Russia to the point of prolonging the Russian civil war, among other things. We had troops in Russia as late as 1920 thanks to Wilson. When his second term was up he was so despised that Warren Harding barely had to campaign at all and still won by the largest margin ever. And as far as women's suffrage, IIRC Wilson opposed that as long as he could get away with it.

I think Harding gets a bad rap being placed on the bottom. Wasn't all that bad, certainly not on the level of a Buchanan. He had scandals and all but as a POTUS he could trade places with Hoover on that traditional list. And I wouldn't put Clinton among the 'best' either. TeCom 96 for one reason; Jocelyn Elders for another. Then there was the CFMA.

He was evil.

 

[Pogo]

I couldn't help but wonder if Bush was certifiably crazy when he launched the invasion of Iraq because I knew what a fiasco it was going to be simply because I knew the history of the region.

But to my eternal astonishment, the Bush folks screwed up the occupation worse than I thought was humanly possible even if it had been run by Peter Sellers and the Keystone Kops. Even today I can't help but ask myself how could the America that successfully fought a two-front war in WWII, and managed to secretly and successully launch the D-Day invasion on Normandy in Europe, and then later organized and deployed the Marshall Plan mess this thing up so monumentally?

It makes me wonder what Ike would say if he was still alive today and he heard W compare himself to Winston Churchill.

Actually I'd like to hear what Winston Churchill would say about it. That dood could turn a phrase.

British (female) MP: "If you were my husband, I would poison your coffee!"
Churchill: "If you were my wife --- I would drink it."

And it was an American he said it to, too! Nancy Astor....

You are correct sir, I stand corrected. Too lazy to look it up.
But having humbly done so...

>> Before Winston Churchill became Britain's most famous wartime prime minister, he was the young, sometimes boozy son of an aristocrat.

]He was also part bulldog.

One night, at a 1912 party at his family estate, Churchill apparently got quite boisterous and irked American socialite Nancy Astor. At her wit's end, Astor stated, "Winston, if you were my husband, I'd put poison in your coffee." Churchill replied:

"Nancy, if you were my wife, I'd drink it."

Bam! A zinger worthy of a great head of state, but ...

How Joe Biden Would Ruin It Today

"Well, lady, if you were my wife, I'd make you drink it. Well, no, that's a bit harsh. Did I just say I'd murder a woman? Sorry, got carried away with the malarkey. Obviously, I wouldn't murder a woman. I'm just saying, I'm from Delaware, and we know a thing or two about taking care of business -- whether that business is working hard at the factory to put our kids through school, or volunteering at the fire department to rescue our neighbors, or murdering women with poisoned coffee. Christ! I did it again. Never mind. I guess all I'm saying is cut me some slack. It's hard enough for me not to say politically incorrect things when I'm sober, let alone when I've been downing Jager bombs. Wait a second! Did you poison the Jager bombs? Is that what you were saying? Why would you do that?" <<

-- #2 on The Five Wittiest Comebacks in the History of Trash Talk​

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[Dr Grump]

Nancy Astor was a British MP...so you were right...

 

[soonerthunder22]

I'd put him at #3 in the last 100 years

Who are at one and two....

Lol you're right. Maybe he IS #1

Nah! Old Barry tied for #1 and #2. BTW. Big B's IQ is a reported 127. Not too bad but certainly not in the elite category. He is an extremely poor president with a legacy that smells to high Heaven.

The lunatic will be judged harshly by history.

 

[Dr Grump]

Nah! Old Barry tied for #1 and #2. BTW. Big B's IQ is a reported 127. Not too bad but certainly not in the elite category. He is an extremely poor president with a legacy that smells to high Heaven.

The lunatic will be judged harshly by history.

I think he'll be remembered as an okay president. Nothing great, nothing bad. A bit of a do-nothing president that should have done more. But nowhere near in the same category as Bush. Bush was unbelievably bad

 

[birddog]

History will show that no other President has done so much damage to our country as has Obama!

He is evil, lying scum!

 

[jillian]

History will show that no other President has done so much damage to our country as has Obama!

He is evil, lying scum!

no. only loony toons think that.

but thanks for your rant.

 

[Pogo]

History will show that no other President has done so much damage to our country as has Obama!

-- provided your history book only goes back half a dozen years...

 

[Listening]

Only right-wing loons would see it otherwise. Us neutrals and the left have said this all along.

Bush worst president in 100 years.

President Barack Obama is regarded as the worst US president since World War II according to the most recent opinion poll conducted by the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute in Connecticut. Quinnipiac is one of the most respected polls in the US, but this is absurd. President Obama has many problems, many of his own making, but he inherited a whirlwind from his predecessor, George Bush, who was a trillion-dollar disaster.

Read more: George Bush the worst president in 100 years: here's why

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That was the first paragraph in the article.

So the author knows better than all the people in the poll ?

The arrogance of the left is never far from the surface.

What a dick (thread).