But....a handgun ban that doesn't work? Just ask the Canadians...

[JoeB131]

There you go you do not want to lock up people who break gun laws.

And I don't care what color skin a criminal has but you obviously do.

So you should be working to reform the justice system instead of blaming legal gun owners for all the ills of society.

Because you are one of the major ills.

Half of all gun murders are "Legal gun owners" shooting each other in domestic violence incidents.

 

[Hollie]

Because you are one of the major ills.

Half of all gun murders are "Legal gun owners" shooting each other in domestic violence incidents.

Put your efforts toward an assault ladder, ban.

500,000 falls from ladders annually; 97 percent occur at home or on farms

According the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons, every year 500,000 people are treated for ladder-related injuries and approximately 300 of these incidents prove to be fatal. In 2007 alone, more than 400 people died as a result of falls on or from ladders or scaffolding. -Liberty Mutual -...

www.ishn.com

According the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons, every year 500,000 people are treated for ladder-related injuries and approximately 300 of these incidents prove to be fatal. In 2007 alone, more than 400 people died as a result of falls on or from ladders or scaffolding. -Liberty Mutual - Research Institute for Safety

 

[2aguy]

Because you are one of the major ills.

Half of all gun murders are "Legal gun owners" shooting each other in domestic violence incidents.

Wrong you liar. The vast majority of gun murder is criminals murdering other criminals or accidentally hitting friends and family of the criminals….. you liar

 

[2aguy]

Put your efforts toward an assault ladder, ban.

500,000 falls from ladders annually; 97 percent occur at home or on farms

According the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons, every year 500,000 people are treated for ladder-related injuries and approximately 300 of these incidents prove to be fatal. In 2007 alone, more than 400 people died as a result of falls on or from ladders or scaffolding. -Liberty Mutual -...

www.ishn.com

According the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons, every year 500,000 people are treated for ladder-related injuries and approximately 300 of these incidents prove to be fatal. In 2007 alone, more than 400 people died as a result of falls on or from ladders or scaffolding. -Liberty Mutual - Research Institute for Safety

Yep…:far more than any year of mass public shootimgs……which is hard to use when you are trying to scare people into giving you the power to ban guns

 

[sealybobo]

The icky ones, as you put it, are great for wild hogs. Also I'm assuming you have the bolt action model of the Bushmaster.

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Yes

 

[JoeB131]

According the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons, every year 500,000 people are treated for ladder-related injuries and approximately 300 of these incidents prove to be fatal. In 2007 alone, more than 400 people died as a result of falls on or from ladders or scaffolding. -Liberty Mutual - Research Institute for Safety

Hmmm...

300 fatalities due to ladders vs. 43,000 fatalities due to guns... Hmmmm.... I think guns are the bigger problem.

Not to mention the 450,000 gun crimes we have every year. Now, if bad guys starts threatening people with ladders, I'll get back to you.

Sweet Evil Jesus, I thought 2TinyGuy was bad with the "Whataboutisms"

Yep…:far more than any year of mass public shootimgs……which is hard to use when you are trying to scare people into giving you the power to ban guns

Only if you try to define "mass shooting" down to a very narrow criteria... which means only when more than three white people die.

Otherwise, we have 600+ mass shootings a year.

 

[JoeB131]

Wrong you liar. The vast majority of gun murder is criminals murdering other criminals or accidentally hitting friends and family of the criminals….. you liar

Nope, it's domestic violence... people killing their friends, families, and coworkers because we let any idiot who wants a gun have one.

 

[Blues Man]

Because you are one of the major ills.

Half of all gun murders are "Legal gun owners" shooting each other in domestic violence incidents.

All rapists have a dick so I guess we should just assume you are a rapist

 

[Hollie]

Nope, it's domestic violence... people killing their friends, families, and coworkers because we let any idiot who wants a gun have one.

These juvenile, emotional outbursts of yours would be embarrassing to most people.

Obviously, we don't let anyone who wants a gun have one. These kinds of behaviors you repeat time after time just reinforce a lot of negative stereotypes about your posting.

 

[Hollie]

Hmmm...

300 fatalities due to ladders vs. 43,000 fatalities due to guns... Hmmmm.... I think guns are the bigger problem.

Not to mention the 450,000 gun crimes we have every year. Now, if bad guys starts threatening people with ladders, I'll get back to you.

Sweet Evil Jesus, I thought 2TinyGuy was bad with the "Whataboutisms"



Only if you try to define "mass shooting" down to a very narrow criteria... which means only when more than three white people die.

Otherwise, we have 600+ mass shootings a year.

Oh, dear. Your tender sensibilities are offended. Strange how you're quick to cut and paste the ''43,000 fatalities a year'', slogan but you don't address the dem / leftist policies that literally encourage and enable gun crime.

 

[2aguy]

Hmmm...

300 fatalities due to ladders vs. 43,000 fatalities due to guns... Hmmmm.... I think guns are the bigger problem.

Not to mention the 450,000 gun crimes we have every year. Now, if bad guys starts threatening people with ladders, I'll get back to you.

Sweet Evil Jesus, I thought 2TinyGuy was bad with the "Whataboutisms"



Only if you try to define "mass shooting" down to a very narrow criteria... which means only when more than three white people die.

Otherwise, we have 600+ mass shootings a year.

Nope....not 43,000 due to guns.



Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives, from rape, robbery, murder, beatings, stabbings, mass public shootings and serve to keep the government from mass murdering Americans....unlike Europe where their governments murdered 15 million innocent men, women and children in just 6 years...more people than all of our gun murder combined for the entire 246 years of our history....

 

[2aguy]

Hmmm...

300 fatalities due to ladders vs. 43,000 fatalities due to guns... Hmmmm.... I think guns are the bigger problem.

Not to mention the 450,000 gun crimes we have every year. Now, if bad guys starts threatening people with ladders, I'll get back to you.

Sweet Evil Jesus, I thought 2TinyGuy was bad with the "Whataboutisms"



Only if you try to define "mass shooting" down to a very narrow criteria... which means only when more than three white people die.

Otherwise, we have 600+ mass shootings a year.

No, we didn't have 600 mass public shootings, yo lying asshat....

US mass shootings, 1982–2022: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
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Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2021...6
2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

 

[JoeB131]

These juvenile, emotional outbursts of yours would be embarrassing to most people.

Obviously, we don't let anyone who wants a gun have one. These kinds of behaviors you repeat time after time just reinforce a lot of negative stereotypes about your posting.

Then how do all these mass shooters and crooks keep getting guns. Getting guns is too easy. It should be hard. At least as hard as getting a mortgage.

Oh, dear. Your tender sensibilities are offended. Strange how you're quick to cut and paste the ''43,000 fatalities a year'', slogan but you don't address the dem / leftist policies that literally encourage and enable gun crime.

because we have just as much crime in the Red areas. The top ten states for murder, six of them are red states.

Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives,

Nope. No evidence to support that. When you can NAME 1.1 million people who did that, get back to me. Otherwise, I'll go with the FBI's numbers of about 30K.

 

[2aguy]

Then how do all these mass shooters and crooks keep getting guns. Getting guns is too easy. It should be hard. At least as hard as getting a mortgage.



because we have just as much crime in the Red areas. The top ten states for murder, six of them are red states.


Nope. No evidence to support that. When you can NAME 1.1 million people who did that, get back to me. Otherwise, I'll go with the FBI's numbers of about 30K.

2021

MassPublic shootings….

6

2020?

2

Over 350 million people in the U.S……..8 mass public shooters in 2 years………..

You have no case for the gun banning that you dream about.

 

[2aguy]

Then how do all these mass shooters and crooks keep getting guns. Getting guns is too easy. It should be hard. At least as hard as getting a mortgage.



because we have just as much crime in the Red areas. The top ten states for murder, six of them are red states.


Nope. No evidence to support that. When you can NAME 1.1 million people who did that, get back to me. Otherwise, I'll go with the FBI's numbers of about 30K.

Yes…the lie….

you say “state,” knowing it is the blue, democrat party cities in those red states that create the violent crime.

 

[JoeB131]

2021

MassPublic shootings….

Well over 600 a year. I'm not sure why you think by limiting it to "Mass Public Shootings" you can define it down enough to not count anything...

But we have 600 incidents a year where more than one person is shot or killed.

Yes…the lie….

you say “state,” knowing it is the blue, democrat party cities in those red states that create the violent crime.

Most of those red states don't really have big blue cities... but they still have high murder rates.

 

[Hollie]

Then how do all these mass shooters and crooks keep getting guns. Getting guns is too easy. It should be hard. At least as hard as getting a mortgage.



because we have just as much crime in the Red areas. The top ten states for murder, six of them are red states.


Nope. No evidence to support that. When you can NAME 1.1 million people who did that, get back to me. Otherwise, I'll go with the FBI's numbers of about 30K.

Crooks keep getting guns because in so many leftist run cities, there's little risk of arrest and conviction for their crimes.

Top crime cities have a common theme as to political leadership. Can you determine what that theme is?

15 Cities with Highest Crime Rate in the US [Report 2022]

So, today, I'm going to talk about the top cities with highest crime rate, which will help you take careful measures for yourself and your loved ones.

usabynumbers.com

 

[JoeB131]

Crooks keep getting guns because in so many leftist run cities, there's little risk of arrest and conviction for their crimes.

Top crime cities have a common theme as to political leadership. Can you determine what that theme is?

They aren't populated by inbreds?

 

[Hollie]

They aren't populated by inbreds?

With the leftist clowns and misfits running dem controlled cities, the leadership certainly is.

 

[2aguy]

Well over 600 a year. I'm not sure why you think by limiting it to "Mass Public Shootings" you can define it down enough to not count anything...

But we have 600 incidents a year where more than one person is shot or killed.



Most of those red states don't really have big blue cities... but they still have high murder rates.

Nope.....you can't lie about that...Mother Jones tracks all of them, and uses the actual definition of mass public shootings by the FBI...you lying asshat.

6 mass public shootings in 2021, 2 in 2020......

Red states have lots of blue cities.......


From poster, Toobfreak.

I chose 58 cities as that was the largest number I could fit on a page. I then went through each city one by one to look up the major of every city. Aside from the fact that you can forget finding any pattern of cities in "red" states being the most with the highest crime as the idiot Marc tries to claim, but I went down the list marking all the mayors of the highest crimes cities in America in BRIGHT RED who were DEMOCRATS.


Look at what I found:

Every city above in red is RUN BY A DEMOCRAT!

Murder map: Deadliest U.S. cities