By a show of "hands" how many leftists on here would give up their cars or phones for climate change

[alang1216]

So are you willing to give up straws if it will help save the planet, no matter how tiny that help?

Giving up my car doesn't mean no cars, it means a more efficient use of cars. My car sits in front of my home 10+ hours every day. Very inefficient use of the materials that went into that car.

Giving up straws will not save the planet.

Giving up burning fossil fuels means your car can be turned into a planter 24 hours/day.

Giving up straws IS a benefit to the planet. A tiny one but a benefit nonetheless. If everyone made a small benefit, it would add up quickly.

As for fossil fuels, I'm not willing to give them up, probably never will be, but I'm willing to support laws that make cars more efficient.

Great, if you hold your breath for 15 seconds every hour that would help also.

Actually it would not be helpful.

What? Isn't the issue CO2?

Think about it some more.

 

[NoVote]

I am retired. I use my car about once every ten days. I order virtually everything I do not eat online. My carbon footprint from not driving to and from work and going 'shopping' is now almost non existant. If public transportation were evn remotely realistic, it would help immensly. We have a long way to go tho.

 

[depotoo]

Wow, willing to give up straws...what a sacrifice. No cars means no cars, not use someone else's car.

So are you willing to give up straws if it will help save the planet, no matter how tiny that help?

Giving up my car doesn't mean no cars, it means a more efficient use of cars. My car sits in front of my home 10+ hours every day. Very inefficient use of the materials that went into that car.

Giving up straws will not save the planet.

Giving up burning fossil fuels means your car can be turned into a planter 24 hours/day.

Giving up straws IS a benefit to the planet. A tiny one but a benefit nonetheless. If everyone made a small benefit, it would add up quickly.

As for fossil fuels, I'm not willing to give them up, probably never will be, but I'm willing to support laws that make cars more efficient.

And we always learn later many of those efficiencies actually end up being less efficient or costing more than most can afford.
Curious. Have you replaced all your bulbs with led’s? Changed to quickly biodegradable toilet tissue? Given up using any plastics such as baggies, or purchasing foods that use plastic containers? Or given up milk in milk cartons? Given up raincoats? Any rubber soled shoes? All those things can also help the environment.

If an efficiency actually ends up being less efficient or too expensive, I'll stop doing it. Isn't that just common sense? As my old bulbs burn out I replace them with LEDs. Again, common sense, something you seem to lack.

Actually, common sense is don’t tell others to do what you are not willing to do yourself. By the way, we have already done a number of things.

 

[alang1216]

I'd be willing to adjust my lifestyle to shrink my carbon footprint, I already have, but expecting people to give up their lifestyle is foolish.

It's not about carbon footprint, but clean air and water. That is the observable, falsifiable, and experimental drawback from fossil fuels. You ain't got shit.

I have no idea what you're trying to say. Do you?

 

[alang1216]

Actually, common sense is don’t tell others to do what you are not willing to do yourself. By the way, we have already done a number of things.

Not common sense, just hypocrisy, a common aspect human nature. I'm glad we have.

 

[Thinker101]

Wow, willing to give up straws...what a sacrifice. No cars means no cars, not use someone else's car.

So are you willing to give up straws if it will help save the planet, no matter how tiny that help?

Giving up my car doesn't mean no cars, it means a more efficient use of cars. My car sits in front of my home 10+ hours every day. Very inefficient use of the materials that went into that car.

Giving up straws will not save the planet.

Giving up burning fossil fuels means your car can be turned into a planter 24 hours/day.

Giving up straws IS a benefit to the planet. A tiny one but a benefit nonetheless. If everyone made a small benefit, it would add up quickly.

As for fossil fuels, I'm not willing to give them up, probably never will be, but I'm willing to support laws that make cars more efficient.

And we always learn later many of those efficiencies actually end up being less efficient or costing more than most can afford.
Curious. Have you replaced all your bulbs with led’s? Changed to quickly biodegradable toilet tissue? Given up using any plastics such as baggies, or purchasing foods that use plastic containers? Or given up milk in milk cartons? Given up raincoats? Any rubber soled shoes? All those things can also help the environment.

If an efficiency actually ends up being less efficient or too expensive, I'll stop doing it. Isn't that just common sense? As my old bulbs burn out I replace them with LEDs. Again, common sense, something you seem to lack.

So now you're saying it's a convenience thing?

 

[Norman]

Relevant:

 

[JustAGuy1]

Not a chance, the whole things is a sham.

 

[Theowl32]

Like the liberal guy (who just lost his re-election bid for local office) said:

It's not important that I give up my SUV.
It IS important that you give up yours. And, Oh, stop heating your house.

That is every liberal on earth in a nutshell.

 

[alang1216]

So are you willing to give up straws if it will help save the planet, no matter how tiny that help?

Giving up my car doesn't mean no cars, it means a more efficient use of cars. My car sits in front of my home 10+ hours every day. Very inefficient use of the materials that went into that car.

Giving up straws will not save the planet.

Giving up burning fossil fuels means your car can be turned into a planter 24 hours/day.

Giving up straws IS a benefit to the planet. A tiny one but a benefit nonetheless. If everyone made a small benefit, it would add up quickly.

As for fossil fuels, I'm not willing to give them up, probably never will be, but I'm willing to support laws that make cars more efficient.

And we always learn later many of those efficiencies actually end up being less efficient or costing more than most can afford.
Curious. Have you replaced all your bulbs with led’s? Changed to quickly biodegradable toilet tissue? Given up using any plastics such as baggies, or purchasing foods that use plastic containers? Or given up milk in milk cartons? Given up raincoats? Any rubber soled shoes? All those things can also help the environment.

If an efficiency actually ends up being less efficient or too expensive, I'll stop doing it. Isn't that just common sense? As my old bulbs burn out I replace them with LEDs. Again, common sense, something you seem to lack.

So now you're saying it's a convenience thing?

Convenience, economics, impact, etc. There are no simple solutions to complex problems.

 

[Dick Foster]

in 20 years, cars will be electric, no longer spewing C02. So no need to give up the car. Just change it to be more environmentally friendly. Which is being done.
Why would I have to give up my phone? (I don't have one, but if I did?)

Idiot where do you think the electricity that electric cars run on comes from? The tooth fairy doesn't put electricy in the wall socket. Fact is odds are the typical electric car ends up simply as a very inefficent way to burn coal.

Let's face it, your libtard degree in gay arts history didn't prepare you to have this conversation so you'd be further ahead just to STFU and sit down.

 

[22lcidw]

in 20 years, cars will be electric, no longer spewing C02. So no need to give up the car. Just change it to be more environmentally friendly. Which is being done.
Why would I have to give up my phone? (I don't have one, but if I did?)

You do realize that creating those electric cars spews co2, as well as the batteries and power stations must spew co2? -

A separate study from the Union of Concerned Scientists found that, depending on the type of plug-in being built, manufacturing a battery-powered car generates anywhere from 15% to 68% more CO2 emissions than a conventional gas-powered car. The reason is that producing the batteries is incredibly energy intensive.

Over the lifetime of a car, then, a plug-in could, depending on where one lives, contribute more to global warming than those nasty gasoline powered cars.
Electric Cars Can Produce More CO2 Emissions Than Gas Cars: Report | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD
Electric cars don’t reduce CO2 emissions according to study

Simple answer to that would be to not use those types of plug-in that produce all that excessive CO2. Now that we got that out of the way, what next?

That was the same logic that promised the great society would end poverty in a short period of time back in the mid 1960's. The War on Poverty is over 55 years and counting.

 

[Siete]

give up their cars or phones


why would I do that?

all I'd have to give up would be a bunch of brain dead RW's.

 

[Wyatt earp]

in 20 years, cars will be electric, no longer spewing C02. So no need to give up the car. Just change it to be more environmentally friendly. Which is being done.
Why would I have to give up my phone? (I don't have one, but if I did?)

So you going to use whale oil and wood to make your electric car?


That wouldn't work funny girl, and how do you post, by string and a tin can?

 

[BULLDOG]

in 20 years, cars will be electric, no longer spewing C02. So no need to give up the car. Just change it to be more environmentally friendly. Which is being done.
Why would I have to give up my phone? (I don't have one, but if I did?)

You do realize that creating those electric cars spews co2, as well as the batteries and power stations must spew co2? -

A separate study from the Union of Concerned Scientists found that, depending on the type of plug-in being built, manufacturing a battery-powered car generates anywhere from 15% to 68% more CO2 emissions than a conventional gas-powered car. The reason is that producing the batteries is incredibly energy intensive.

Over the lifetime of a car, then, a plug-in could, depending on where one lives, contribute more to global warming than those nasty gasoline powered cars.
Electric Cars Can Produce More CO2 Emissions Than Gas Cars: Report | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD
Electric cars don’t reduce CO2 emissions according to study

Simple answer to that would be to not use those types of plug-in that produce all that excessive CO2. Now that we got that out of the way, what next?

That was the same logic that promised the great society would end poverty in a short period of time back in the mid 1960's. The War on Poverty is over 55 years and counting.

I'm not aware of anyone who ever said poverty could be ended in a short period of time. You got a link?

 

[BULLDOG]

in 20 years, cars will be electric, no longer spewing C02. So no need to give up the car. Just change it to be more environmentally friendly. Which is being done.
Why would I have to give up my phone? (I don't have one, but if I did?)

So you going to use whale oil and wood to make your electric car?


That wouldn't work funny girl, and how do you post, by string and a tin can?

Only an idiot would think we would do away with what we have before we have something to replace it. Are you an idiot?

 

[Wyatt earp]

in 20 years, cars will be electric, no longer spewing C02. So no need to give up the car. Just change it to be more environmentally friendly. Which is being done.
Why would I have to give up my phone? (I don't have one, but if I did?)

So you going to use whale oil and wood to make your electric car?


That wouldn't work funny girl, and how do you post, by string and a tin can?

Only an idiot would think we would do away with what we have before we have something to replace it. Are you an idiot?

Yeah we know science is not strong with you as you sit there wearing buffalo skin sending smoke signals.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I'd be willing to adjust my lifestyle to shrink my carbon footprint, I already have, but expecting people to give up their lifestyle is foolish. Substituting paper straws for plastic ones, making them optional in restaurants, etc., is something we can all do (assuming it is helpful) but doing without straws completely? No.

I'm a construction worker.

I typically have to travel as much as 80 miles to a job site, often in some obscure area not served by public transit, carrying over a hundred pounds of tools.

Should I give up my car to pander to the hopelessly-ignorant, mentally-defective environmentalist cretins?

Should I give up the use of plastic straws, which allow me to safely have a beverage that I can drink from during my trip of up to three or four hours each way; for either a paper straw that will surely disintegrate into a useless pile of mush before I reach my destination, or a beverage in another form that more significantly interferes with my ability to drive safely in order to drink from it?

Environmentalists are a particularly odd mix of insane, ignorant, and unimaginably stupid.

 

[BULLDOG]

in 20 years, cars will be electric, no longer spewing C02. So no need to give up the car. Just change it to be more environmentally friendly. Which is being done.
Why would I have to give up my phone? (I don't have one, but if I did?)

So you going to use whale oil and wood to make your electric car?


That wouldn't work funny girl, and how do you post, by string and a tin can?

Only an idiot would think we would do away with what we have before we have something to replace it. Are you an idiot?

Yeah we know science is not strong with you as you sit there wearing buffalo skin sending smoke signals.


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I'm not sure what that reference was all about, but it forces me to ask again ---- Are you an idiot?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Dang, do you have any clue whatsoever where electricity comes from? Out of the wall is not a valid answer.

Idiot where do you think the electricity that electric cars run on comes from? The tooth fairy doesn't put electricy [sic] in the wall socket. Fact is odds are the typical electric car ends up simply as a very inefficent [sic] way to burn coal.

Let's face it, your libtard degree in gay arts history didn't prepare you to have this conversation so you'd be further ahead just to STFU and sit down.

Here's how such ignorant folk as OldLady probably think you can generate free electricity, without producing any “carbon footprint”…