California AG: Employers who Cooperate With Federal Immigration Raids Will be Prosecuted

[WillMunny]

Not only arrested, but hanged for treason. I've had enough of the pompous ass, violent, self-loathing-American, treasonous cocksuckers that run this state. Or to be exact, ran this state into the ground. There has NEVER been an entity in American history as destructive, violent, detestable and clinically anti-social than liberal walking anus-diseases. Liberal diseases are NOT human; they gave up their humanity by choosing to behave like rabid dogs. Please name me ONE positive, redeeming quality that liberalfeces have.

 

[Intolerant]

Law is a quite interesting thing. It has clear black & white areas, but often, it has many shades of gray too, which get cleared up in court cases. For those of us who have fought cases in the courtroom, we know well how unclear laws can be, and how subjective they can be in the minds of cops, prosecutors, defense attorneys and judges.

California's attorney General Xavier Beccera has decided to push the limits regarding immigration law, and how business may deal with illegal aliens and federal officials looking to arrest them. Under a new California law – the Immigration Worker Protection Act – employers and businesses could face fines of up to $10,000 if they provide employee information to U.S. Immigration Customs, Becerra said.

If employers “start giving up information about their employees or access to their employees in ways that contradict our new California laws, they subject themselves to actions by my office. We will prosecute those who violate the law,” he said at a news conference

Problem here could be a big one for the AG, as well as the governor, and all those legislators who made this law. They could all be in violation of federal law >> US Code 8, Section 1324, and could be arrested for harboring illegal aliens. The jist would be if what they have done meets the definition of "harboring". How one defines it probably depends on how favorable or unfavorable they look upon illegal immigration, generally.

Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and abetting any of the preceding acts.

In any case, this would be another one of those gray areas of jurisprudence, which can become better focused and standardized after court actions. But the question of the OP is whether Becerra and his colleagues who do appear to be harboring illegal aliens are in violation of US Code 8 Section 1324, or not.

1907. Title 8, U.S.C. 1324(a) Offenses | USAM | Department of Justice

Here is the federal law's definition of "Harboring" >>

Harboring -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

Since this California law could also easily be seen as encouraging people to come to the US illegally, the US Code 8, Section 1324 definition of "Encouraging" could also come into play >>

Encouraging/Inducing -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who -- encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.

you loons are mentally ill. seriously.

So you’re a physiatrist now.

 

[jillian]

you loons are mentally ill. seriously.

1. You mean the whole state of California ? Yeah, that's why Ieft that loon state 29 years ago.

2. If the shoe fits, wear it.

no, I mean you.

 

[jillian]

Law is a quite interesting thing. It has clear black & white areas, but often, it has many shades of gray too, which get cleared up in court cases. For those of us who have fought cases in the courtroom, we know well how unclear laws can be, and how subjective they can be in the minds of cops, prosecutors, defense attorneys and judges.

California's attorney General Xavier Beccera has decided to push the limits regarding immigration law, and how business may deal with illegal aliens and federal officials looking to arrest them. Under a new California law – the Immigration Worker Protection Act – employers and businesses could face fines of up to $10,000 if they provide employee information to U.S. Immigration Customs, Becerra said.

If employers “start giving up information about their employees or access to their employees in ways that contradict our new California laws, they subject themselves to actions by my office. We will prosecute those who violate the law,” he said at a news conference

Problem here could be a big one for the AG, as well as the governor, and all those legislators who made this law. They could all be in violation of federal law >> US Code 8, Section 1324, and could be arrested for harboring illegal aliens. The jist would be if what they have done meets the definition of "harboring". How one defines it probably depends on how favorable or unfavorable they look upon illegal immigration, generally.

Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and abetting any of the preceding acts.

In any case, this would be another one of those gray areas of jurisprudence, which can become better focused and standardized after court actions. But the question of the OP is whether Becerra and his colleagues who do appear to be harboring illegal aliens are in violation of US Code 8 Section 1324, or not.

1907. Title 8, U.S.C. 1324(a) Offenses | USAM | Department of Justice

Here is the federal law's definition of "Harboring" >>

Harboring -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

Since this California law could also easily be seen as encouraging people to come to the US illegally, the US Code 8, Section 1324 definition of "Encouraging" could also come into play >>

Encouraging/Inducing -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who -- encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.

you loons are mentally ill. seriously.

So you’re a physiatrist now.

some things are obvious to the lay person.

 

[harmonica]

they already fined San Fran $190,000 for it--what idiots

 

[IsaacNewton]

Many red states passed laws the last 8 years that ordered state employees to ignore federal gun laws. But somehow now they are entirely against states rights.

Cons are children who whine and bitch anytime they don't get their way. Sorry cons but none of your wet dreams of state officials 'being arrested' are going to come true.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

you loons are mentally ill. seriously.

You say that like you aren't their mirror image

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

No...Drawn and quartered, beheaded, shot, hung, or electrocuted, but not arrested...

Don't you want to give him a fair trial ? Maybe he could plead the insanity defense.

Would he give you a fair trial?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Many red states passed laws the last 8 years that ordered state employees to ignore federal gun laws. But somehow now they are entirely against states rights.

Cons are children who whine and bitch anytime they don't get their way. Sorry cons but none of your wet dreams of state officials 'being arrested' are going to come true.

Yeah, when the federal government wants to take away the 2nd amendment which is a right, when it comes to illegals staying here, that isn't a right...Dumb fucking liberals.(i know redundant statement)..

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Many red states passed laws the last 8 years that ordered state employees to ignore federal gun laws. But somehow now they are entirely against states rights.

Cons are children who whine and bitch anytime they don't get their way. Sorry cons but none of your wet dreams of state officials 'being arrested' are going to come true.

Cons are children who whine and bitch anytime they don't get their way.

These are NOT conservatives.......Bwaaaahhhaaahhhaaaaaa... Liberals love to accuse US of the very deeds that they do.. Just too fucking funny...

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The attorney general, MEXICAN, Xavier Bercerra, wants to expand the law past businesses to every citizen that cooperates with federal agents.

California is pushing the envelope to see how far it can go in open rebellion before federal authorities come in and take over.

 

[saveliberty]

you loons are mentally ill. seriously.

That was a compelling legal opinion, mind if the California AG uses it?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Law is a quite interesting thing. It has clear black & white areas, but often, it has many shades of gray too, which get cleared up in court cases. For those of us who have fought cases in the courtroom, we know well how unclear laws can be, and how subjective they can be in the minds of cops, prosecutors, defense attorneys and judges.

California's attorney General Xavier Beccera has decided to push the limits regarding immigration law, and how business may deal with illegal aliens and federal officials looking to arrest them. Under a new California law – the Immigration Worker Protection Act – employers and businesses could face fines of up to $10,000 if they provide employee information to U.S. Immigration Customs, Becerra said.

If employers “start giving up information about their employees or access to their employees in ways that contradict our new California laws, they subject themselves to actions by my office. We will prosecute those who violate the law,” he said at a news conference

Problem here could be a big one for the AG, as well as the governor, and all those legislators who made this law. They could all be in violation of federal law >> US Code 8, Section 1324, and could be arrested for harboring illegal aliens. The jist would be if what they have done meets the definition of "harboring". How one defines it probably depends on how favorable or unfavorable they look upon illegal immigration, generally.

Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and abetting any of the preceding acts.

In any case, this would be another one of those gray areas of jurisprudence, which can become better focused and standardized after court actions. But the question of the OP is whether Becerra and his colleagues who do appear to be harboring illegal aliens are in violation of US Code 8 Section 1324, or not.

1907. Title 8, U.S.C. 1324(a) Offenses | USAM | Department of Justice

Here is the federal law's definition of "Harboring" >>

Harboring -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

Since this California law could also easily be seen as encouraging people to come to the US illegally, the US Code 8, Section 1324 definition of "Encouraging" could also come into play >>

Encouraging/Inducing -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who -- encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.

you loons are mentally ill. seriously.

The lawyer supporting sedition. Hey didn't SCOTUS rule on this like 200 years ago?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The attorney general, MEXICAN, Xavier Bercerra, wants to expand the law past businesses to every citizen that cooperates with federal agents.

California is pushing the envelope to see how far it can go in open rebellion before federal authorities come in and take over.

Deport the fucker

 

[usmcstinger]

It is time to prosecute all those who break Federal Laws!

 

[protectionist]

It is time to prosecute all those who break Federal Laws!

Absolutely right. I'm confounded at the passivity of the current Justice Dept.

Trump, Sessions,.. get going!

 

[protectionist]

no, I mean you.

Thanks for the compliment.

 

[Silhouette]

Harboring -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

Since this California law could also easily be seen as encouraging people to come to the US illegally, the US Code 8, Section 1324 definition of "Encouraging" could also come into play >>

Encouraging/Inducing -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who -- encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.

There isn't any gray area at all. It is a willful, smug and arrogant defiance of federal law exactly with the intent to keep federal authorities from following the laws of the 50 states on immigration and naturalization.

 

[protectionist]

Many red states passed laws the last 8 years that ordered state employees to ignore federal gun laws. But somehow now they are entirely against states rights.

Cons are children who whine and bitch anytime they don't get their way. Sorry cons but none of your wet dreams of state officials 'being arrested' are going to come true.

1 You have nothing to base that prediction on.

2 As for states rights vs federal law, liberals love to quote the Supremacy Clause when they talk about states making immigration law, (ex Arizona SB1070), but oppose it when talking about immigration enforcement (sanctuary cities)

 

[protectionist]

There isn't any gray area at all. It is a willful, smug and arrogant defiance of federal law exactly with the intent to keep federal authorities from following the laws of the 50 states on immigration and naturalization.

That is, yeah. Which is why Beccera, Brown, and all the rest of the outlaws should be arrested.