California AG: Employers who Cooperate With Federal Immigration Raids Will be Prosecuted

[mamooth]

EARTH TO MAMOOTH: What's YOUR definition of "hard evidence" ?

In this case, it would be illegals being caught voting in quantities that can't be counted on your fingers.

And you don't have such evidence. Quite the contrary, it's Republicans who keep getting caught doing the illegal voting thing.

Your conspiracy theory has a problem. Illegals aren't idiots. The penalty for getting caught -- jail and deportation -- is millions of times worse than any payout. Hence, no rational person would choose such a course of action.

 

[protectionist]

In this case, it would be illegals being caught voting in quantities that can't be counted on your fingers.

And you don't have such evidence. Quite the contrary, it's Republicans who keep getting caught doing the illegal voting thing.

Your conspiracy theory has a problem. Illegals aren't idiots. The penalty for getting caught -- jail and deportation -- is millions of times worse than any payout. Hence, no rational person would choose such a course of action.

That would be evidence. But it's not the ONLY evidence. And one isn't required to have THAT to be able to have evidence.

Illegals vote all the time without any fear, because no one is stopping them.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

How do you prosecute them when the ca statute clearly states that it doesn’t apply for compliance with federal law?

That's not quite what it said.

It said that unless another federal law was applicable, federal raids for immigration purposes require a warrant to be admitted to non-public spaces for inspection of illegal aliens (excluding admission to empty non-public spaces to determine the validity of the warrant).

Now with that said, I disagree with the idea that a private employer can't voluntarily allow for inspection to determine if illegal aliens are present in their workforce. Those would have inadvertently hired illegals because the illegal provided fraudulent paperwork can have their voluntary cooperation viewed positively be federal prosecutors. Employers that have intentionally hired illegal aliens as part of their workforce are not going to voluntarily allow inspection anyway and will demand a warrant.

A law abiding employer should be free to volunteer for inspection.


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No, if the raid does not have a warrant, then it is illegal and the employer is required to resist, in order to protect the rights of the workers, which are superior.
And employer does not have the authority to help in the violation of employees right to privacy.

Employees have a right to privacy? When did that law pass?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This is truly insane.

There is simply no way in hell that this will pass constitutional muster. Immigration is a power SPECIFICALLY reserved to the feds - the ball is squarely in the feds court. It makes no sense whatsoever to allow the states to make cooperating with federal authorities on powers granted to them through the constitution illegal. Hell, forget passing constitutional muster, the law does not even pass basic logic.

It was not all that long ago when DumBama sued Arizona because they created their own immigration laws. The court ruled that Arizona has no legal ability to have their own laws because immigration is controlled by the feds.

 

[FA_Q2]

This is truly insane.

There is simply no way in hell that this will pass constitutional muster. Immigration is a power SPECIFICALLY reserved to the feds - the ball is squarely in the feds court. It makes no sense whatsoever to allow the states to make cooperating with federal authorities on powers granted to them through the constitution illegal. Hell, forget passing constitutional muster, the law does not even pass basic logic.

It was not all that long ago when DumBama sued Arizona because they created their own immigration laws. The court ruled that Arizona has no legal ability to have their own laws because immigration is controlled by the feds.

Well, not really. Arizona was sued and stopped from passing laws that were supposed to help the enforcement of those federal immigration laws. They were shot down when trying to actually enforce the law. Now we have a state trying to stop enforcement of the law and suddenly the dems seem to be on the other side here.

Nonsensical.

 

[FA_Q2]

How do you prosecute them when the ca statute clearly states that it doesn’t apply for compliance with federal law?

That's not quite what it said.

It said that unless another federal law was applicable, federal raids for immigration purposes require a warrant to be admitted to non-public spaces for inspection of illegal aliens (excluding admission to empty non-public spaces to determine the validity of the warrant).

Now with that said, I disagree with the idea that a private employer can't voluntarily allow for inspection to determine if illegal aliens are present in their workforce. Those would have inadvertently hired illegals because the illegal provided fraudulent paperwork can have their voluntary cooperation viewed positively be federal prosecutors. Employers that have intentionally hired illegal aliens as part of their workforce are not going to voluntarily allow inspection anyway and will demand a warrant.

A law abiding employer should be free to volunteer for inspection.


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No, if the raid does not have a warrant, then it is illegal and the employer is required to resist, in order to protect the rights of the workers, which are superior.
And employer does not have the authority to help in the violation of employees right to privacy.

No, not even remotely true.

Nothing, other than CA openly trying to go against federal law, stops an employer in cooperating with federal agents in a investigation for any reason whatsoever.