California To Wal-Mart: Enough! No More Taxpayer Subsidized Profits For You

You can't possibly be this dense. It's called cost shifting and it's how major corporations become cost competitive. Are you trying to justify the reasons why you support such an evil empire?

Corporations aren't able to shift their costs onto anyone. Only government has the power to do that.

You mean our government or the governments of other countries that look the other way on issues like pollution and human rights violations?

What "human rights" violations? We weren't discussing pollution when you mentioned "cost shifting." We were discussing welfare.

Pollution only occurs on public property, so you can blame the government for that.
 
And while we're at it..



Wal-Mart Expands Check Cashing Services - DailyFinance

Like it does on many products and services, Wal-Mart's check-cashing fees largely undercut those charged by a typical check-cashing outlet, where consumers pay an average of 2% to 4% of the face value of the check to cash it.

In New York, for example, it costs $18.60 to cash a $1,000 check and $93 for a $5,000 check in a check-cashing store. Those rates are set by the state Superintendent of Banks. [[GASP - those leftists are helpful]] By contrast, Wal-Mart charges $3 to cash checks up to $1,000 and $6 for checks up to $5,000.Like it does on many products and services, Wal-Mart's check-cashing fees largely undercut those charged by a typical check-cashing outlet, where consumers pay an average of 2% to 4% of the face value of the check to cash it.

Seems like Walmart is going down the list of Leftist problems that they can't solve and fixing them. Predatory PayDay lenders eh? Where's the "DONE" button?

Wait a minute!!!! Hold the line!!!!!

Stephen Altobelli, a spokesman for the Financial Service Centers of America -- which represents mom-and-pop to publicly traded check cashing stores -- isn't too worried about Wal-Mart putting his members out of business or forcing them to match prices. He says most of the customers who use check-cashing services live in the inner city where banks and big box retailers like Wal-Mart and Kmart are typically not found.

Oh ain't that cute.. No Walmarts allowed in those Liberal leftist bastions... So no cheap check cashing and income tax prep.. And the SPOKESMOUTH for the predatory lenders ain't worried, he's bashing Walmart as hard as he can along with DotCom and the misdirected minions...

Clean-up on Aisle 4... I think DotCom got a little sick of this..

Great points. WalMart has cheaper check cashing prices but WalMarts are too big to be in the Inner cities. Its a land problem not that "liberals wont let a WalMart here" thing.

You've shown that their cash checking prices are great and that's a great point to be made in a check cashing prices thread. This is a WalMart puts the tax burden of their employees on us thread. You haven't shown whats great about that.


Your thread is a sham and so is the California legislature. All Walmart employees who average over 30 hours a week are eligible to buy into a healthcare plan.

Just because they don't doesn't make Walmart the criminal.
 
Corporations aren't able to shift their costs onto anyone. Only government has the power to do that.

You mean our government or the governments of other countries that look the other way on issues like pollution and human rights violations?

What "human rights" violations? We weren't discussing pollution when you mentioned "cost shifting." We were discussing welfare.

Pollution only occurs on public property, so you can blame the government for that.

I brought up all the other shitty things that Walmart does in addition to paying the employees so poorly that they need public assistance. And seriously, what "human rights" violations? Have you seen the conditions that exist in the sweat shops where this crap is produced?
 
For years, Wal-Mart—and other large retail operators—have been piling up huge profits by controlling their labor costs through paying employees sub-poverty level wages. As a result, it has long been left to the taxpayer to provide healthcare and other subsidized benefits to the many Wal-Mart employees who are dependent on Medicaid, food stamp programs and subsidized housing in order to keep their families from going under.

With Medicaid eligibility about to be expanded in some 30 states, as a result of the Affordable Care Act, Wal-Mart has responded by cutting employee hours—and thereby wages—even further in order to push more of their workers into state Medicaid programs and increase Wal-Mart profits. Good news for Wal-Mart shareholders and senior management earning the big bucks—not so good for the taxpayers who will now be expected to contribute even larger amounts of money to subsidize Wal-Mart’s burgeoning profits.
How many times have people tried to tell others that just because it's profitable for Wal MArt doesn't mean its good for America? Answer: Too many

Legislation is now making its way through the California legislature—with the support of consumer groups, unions and, interestingly, physicians—that would levy a fine of up to $6,000 on employers like Wal-Mart for every full-time employee that ends up on the state’s Medi-Cal program—the California incarnation of Medicaid.

The amount of the fine is no coincidence.

A report released last week by the Democratic staff of the U.S. House Committee on Education and the Workforce, estimates that the cost of Wal-Mart’s failure to adequately pay its employees could total about $5,815 per employee each and every year of employment.
That's $6000 per employee times how many employees = $$BIG BUCKS$$$

After analyzing data released by Wisconsin’s Medicaid program, the Democratic staff of the U.S. House Committee on Education and the Workforce estimates that a single 300- person Wal-Mart Supercenter store in Wisconsin likely costs taxpayers at least $904,542 per year and could cost taxpayers up to $1,744,590 per year – about $5,815 per employee.”
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What I always find fascinating is that the very people who are so critical of the subsidies provided by Obamacare to lower-earning Americans (how many times have these people reminded us that “someone is paying for these subsidies”) never seem to have much of a problem with the subsidies we pay to support Wal-Mart’s massive profits by picking up the healthcare tab for so many of the company’s employees. But then, those who support taxpayers doing the job that Wal-Mart should be doing tend to be the same folks who are quick to suggest that nobody is forcing workers to take a job at Wal-Mart. Apparently, these people are operating under the opinion that a Wal-Mart worker earning below the federal poverty level wouldn’t readily move to a better paying job if such a job were available to that worker.
California To Wal-Mart: Enough! No More Taxpayer Subsidized Profits For You - Forbes

:clap2: This move will make other business think twice before thinking they can just get the tax payer to foot their bills
Do away with the business killing Obamacare and these employees would still have their full hours of employment.

Did you fucks really think there wasn't going to be any consequences to your fucked up law?
 
California To Wal-Mart: Enough! No More Taxpayer Subsidized Profits For You

Back to the original OP --

Why are rw's in favor of tax subsidies for WalMart?

WalMart offers healthcare plans to all employees who average over 30 hours a week. Please prove how taxpayers are subsidizing WalMart.

Read OP's much? :eusa_eh: :rolleyes:

Don't jump in at the 40th page of a thread & ask to be filled-in. :eusa_hand:
 
Back to the original OP --

Why are rw's in favor of tax subsidies for WalMart?

WalMart offers healthcare plans to all employees who average over 30 hours a week. Please prove how taxpayers are subsidizing WalMart.

Read OP's much? :eusa_eh: :rolleyes:

Don't jump in at the 40th page of a thread & ask to be filled-in. :eusa_hand:

Let's see, it took the OP 7 pages into this thread to post a link to the quotes in the OP (which by the way is against board rules) and then it turns out the quotes in the OP are an OP/ED piece and do not link to anything to back up his OPINIONS.

But I see you're more than willing to take as gospel anything spewed as long as it supports your point of view.

Rick
 
For years, Wal-Mart—and other large retail operators—have been piling up huge profits by controlling their labor costs through paying employees sub-poverty level wages. As a result, it has long been left to the taxpayer to provide healthcare and other subsidized benefits to the many Wal-Mart employees who are dependent on Medicaid, food stamp programs and subsidized housing in order to keep their families from going under.

With Medicaid eligibility about to be expanded in some 30 states, as a result of the Affordable Care Act, Wal-Mart has responded by cutting employee hours—and thereby wages—even further in order to push more of their workers into state Medicaid programs and increase Wal-Mart profits. Good news for Wal-Mart shareholders and senior management earning the big bucks—not so good for the taxpayers who will now be expected to contribute even larger amounts of money to subsidize Wal-Mart’s burgeoning profits.
How many times have people tried to tell others that just because it's profitable for Wal MArt doesn't mean its good for America? Answer: Too many

That's $6000 per employee times how many employees = $$BIG BUCKS$$$

*snip*

What I always find fascinating is that the very people who are so critical of the subsidies provided by Obamacare to lower-earning Americans (how many times have these people reminded us that “someone is paying for these subsidies”) never seem to have much of a problem with the subsidies we pay to support Wal-Mart’s massive profits by picking up the healthcare tab for so many of the company’s employees. But then, those who support taxpayers doing the job that Wal-Mart should be doing tend to be the same folks who are quick to suggest that nobody is forcing workers to take a job at Wal-Mart. Apparently, these people are operating under the opinion that a Wal-Mart worker earning below the federal poverty level wouldn’t readily move to a better paying job if such a job were available to that worker.
California To Wal-Mart: Enough! No More Taxpayer Subsidized Profits For You - Forbes

:clap2: This move will make other business think twice before thinking they can just get the tax payer to foot their bills
Do away with the business killing Obamacare and these employees would still have their full hours of employment.

Did you fucks really think there wasn't going to be any consequences to your fucked up law?


Hilarious that libs whine about Walmart then support Obamacare, which is driving premiums through the roof for the middle class to subsidize for HC for the poor.

BTW, many of those "poor" also have family members working under the table and will not want the IRS scrutinizing their income in order to qualify for a subsidy. They're only "poor" on paper, in how much income they claim when they file a return each year.

I also don't buy the stats (estimates) the Dems/unions put out regarding how many Walmart employees are on assistance. Many are just one of many in the household working, and only work to bring in extra income.
 
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Yet we have Targets, Costcos, BJ's, Best Buys, Kmarts (if the damn things still exist) and all are "big box stores" some in low income areas.

Why not walmart? You say its due to sizing issues, all the above seem to fit...

Keep flopping around, its fun to watch.

So you believe that there are no Walmarts in low income areas? Is that what you're saying?

Your statement:

WalMart has cheaper check cashing prices but WalMarts are too big to be in the Inner cities. Its a land problem not that "liberals wont let a WalMart here" thing.

I just showed a place where Liberals don't want Walmart in, and it has nothing to do with land/space, it has to do with them not liking Wal Marts Buinsess model.

That is thier right. What you do not have the right to do is lie about it.

And I asked you are they allowed to not want Walmart there for any reason. You seem to agree they have the right but you are questioning their rights at the same time.

Ok, great...I said no one. You showed someone. You got me. Whoop de doo.

Now do me the same courtesy and answer my questions:

So you believe that there are no Walmarts in low income areas?
You said "for some reason the NYC council has an issue with them". From your link can you not find the reason? Should the council approve every company or be labeled as "haters"? What makes WalMart different that they should approve them and not others who go thru the same process?
 
You can't possibly be this dense. It's called cost shifting and it's how major corporations become cost competitive. Are you trying to justify the reasons why you support such an evil empire?
You can't possibly be this dense.

Cost of the goods is not the only reason people shop at certain stores.

Oh, really? So what do you like about Walmart besides the low prices? The stunning architecture? The spiffy displays? The cheerful employees? The colorful characters? The ultra-efficient checkout lines? The crappy quality foods?
Wow...You really are this dense.

Do companies like Eddie Bauer, New Balance, Dick's Sporting Goods, Macy's, etcetera, survive and thrive because of their super low prices?
 
WalMart offers healthcare plans to all employees who average over 30 hours a week. Please prove how taxpayers are subsidizing WalMart.

Read OP's much? :eusa_eh: :rolleyes:

Don't jump in at the 40th page of a thread & ask to be filled-in. :eusa_hand:

Let's see, it took the OP 7 pages into this thread to post a link to the quotes in the OP (which by the way is against board rules) and then it turns out the quotes in the OP are an OP/ED piece and do not link to anything to back up his OPINIONS.

But I see you're more than willing to take as gospel anything spewed as long as it supports your point of view.

Rick

All those dam excuses...Whats next your finger was hurting? Link is in the OP, yeah I forgot it...biggg issue you cant get past there. The OP/ED had a link that supported the information in it. Let me guess, someone elses fault you didn't see that either right?

But I see you're more than willing to oppose and deny anything as long as it supports
preconceived notions
 
And while we're at it..



Wal-Mart Expands Check Cashing Services - DailyFinance

Like it does on many products and services, Wal-Mart's check-cashing fees largely undercut those charged by a typical check-cashing outlet, where consumers pay an average of 2% to 4% of the face value of the check to cash it.

In New York, for example, it costs $18.60 to cash a $1,000 check and $93 for a $5,000 check in a check-cashing store. Those rates are set by the state Superintendent of Banks. [[GASP - those leftists are helpful]] By contrast, Wal-Mart charges $3 to cash checks up to $1,000 and $6 for checks up to $5,000.Like it does on many products and services, Wal-Mart's check-cashing fees largely undercut those charged by a typical check-cashing outlet, where consumers pay an average of 2% to 4% of the face value of the check to cash it.

Seems like Walmart is going down the list of Leftist problems that they can't solve and fixing them. Predatory PayDay lenders eh? Where's the "DONE" button?

Wait a minute!!!! Hold the line!!!!!

Stephen Altobelli, a spokesman for the Financial Service Centers of America -- which represents mom-and-pop to publicly traded check cashing stores -- isn't too worried about Wal-Mart putting his members out of business or forcing them to match prices. He says most of the customers who use check-cashing services live in the inner city where banks and big box retailers like Wal-Mart and Kmart are typically not found.

Oh ain't that cute.. No Walmarts allowed in those Liberal leftist bastions... So no cheap check cashing and income tax prep.. And the SPOKESMOUTH for the predatory lenders ain't worried, he's bashing Walmart as hard as he can along with DotCom and the misdirected minions...

Clean-up on Aisle 4... I think DotCom got a little sick of this..

Great points. WalMart has cheaper check cashing prices but WalMarts are too big to be in the Inner cities. Its a land problem not that "liberals wont let a WalMart here" thing.

You've shown that their cash checking prices are great and that's a great point to be made in a check cashing prices thread. This is a WalMart puts the tax burden of their employees on us thread. You haven't shown whats great about that.

Already was responsive to the thread.. It's an INSURANCE ISSUE,, not a labor issue. And the leftist expectations for what Walmart can do about that are misplaced.

Walmart could pay these people $4buck more an hour and it wouldn't stop them from qualifying for Medicare. They can't AFFORD health insurance. And part-time employees don't get benefits. Me on the other hand, with 6 figure income, can't afford health insurance anymore, but I will never qualify for Medicare unless I get REAL sick and blow thru my house, my savings, my retirement and Grandma's Steinway..

The STATE could raise the min wage, but they KNOW that won't get these people insurance. AND it would lower their revenues.

So there IS NO STORY here except for the vengenful vendetta against this company. And my point is that WALMART has FIXED more chronic Social Issues for the Poor than Congress or a trainload of bleeding hearts.

BTW: Walmart has spent YEARS trying to get into Lefty cities. It's NOT a land issue. They have scaled stores to fit. And FINALLY they started to break into Chicago and other UNION and Leftist city limits. The experience has been major positive and it's gonna be hard for you jerks to stop it. But please keep whining..

BTW2: Did you notice in my post above exactly WHO is perpetuating the scalping at Predatory lenders? It's youse guys and your minions in the Leftist Base Camps of New York, New Jersey, and California. The STATE is holding hands with these sharks while keeping it safe from Walmarts so that they can do business...
 
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WalMart could pay them more so they could afford it but you oppose that because Walmart should be able to do what they want (which is not the issue)
The State could raise mw but you would oppose that because mw is for entry level workers (which is a lie but the point you would raise)

So there are fixes, it's just that you oppose or have opposed all the fixes. So you can crow about how things aren't fixed. See how that works. Break it, then complain about it being broken
 
WalMart could pay them more so they could afford it but you oppose that because Walmart should be able to do what they want (which is not the issue)
Yes, it is the issue....You just don't want to own up to the fact.

So there are fixes, it's just that you oppose or have opposed all the fixes. So you can crow about how things aren't fixed. See how that works. Break it, then complain about it being broken.
That would be what know-nothing lolberal fruitcakes are doing here...You create a vast socialistic welfare state, which itself is created broken, then bellyache that people who qualify for the programs actually take advantage of them.

Can't win for losing with you lolberal clowns. :lol:
 
BTW: Walmart has spent YEARS trying to get into Lefty cities. It's NOT a land issue. They have scaled stores to fit. And FINALLY they started to break into Chicago and other UNION and Leftist city limits. The experience has been major positive and it's gonna be hard for you jerks to stop it. But please keep whining..

It was a HUGE fight here when a Walmart wanted to open on a long-blighted, weed-filled and long-abandoned school property. MANY years of fighting, and the usual local suspects on the left that block progress with any chance they get, but oddly call themselves "progressives" used every lie and false claim under the Sun to try to stop it, but it was finally approved and built. It turned out to be a great success, and almost everyone who opposed it now admits they were wrong, and shop there. It anchors many new businesses in the shopping center it created, sends millions of dollars to the city in taxes, and millions to the school district, which still owns the land, The entire intersection is revitalized as well.

And just last year a Walmart "neighborhood market" (grocery-only) opened near me and I love it! Great prices, great food, employees are much nicer than the lifer union drones at the other groceries, and seem to enjoy their jobs. Best meat in town btw, at the best price.

Must drive the FAT-cat/greedy union bosses CRAZY!
 
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WalMart could pay them more so they could afford it but you oppose that because Walmart should be able to do what they want (which is not the issue)
The State could raise mw but you would oppose that because mw is for entry level workers (which is a lie but the point you would raise)

So there are fixes, it's just that you oppose or have opposed all the fixes. So you can crow about how things aren't fixed. See how that works. Break it, then complain about it being broken

ABSOLUTELY NONE of that would prevent those workers from qualifying for Medicaid or allow them to afford Health Insurance.. I can't afford health insurance anymore and may soon drop that $22K/year burden..

Are you not getting that point? Doesn't fix the problem.. Just gives YOU and mental midgets in Cali an excuse to rape WalMart..
 
BTW: Walmart has spent YEARS trying to get into Lefty cities. It's NOT a land issue. They have scaled stores to fit. And FINALLY they started to break into Chicago and other UNION and Leftist city limits. The experience has been major positive and it's gonna be hard for you jerks to stop it. But please keep whining..

It was a HUGE fight here when a Walmart wanted to open on a long-blighted, weed-filled and long-abandoned school property. MANY years of fighting, and the usual local suspects on the left that block progress with any chance they get, but oddly call themselves "progressives" used every lie and false claim under the Sun to try to stop it, but it was finally approved and built. It turned out to be a great success, and almost everyone who opposed it now admits they were wrong, and shop there. It anchors many new businesses in the shopping center it created, sends millions of dollars to the city in taxes, and millions to the school district, which still owns the land, The entire intersection is revitalized as well.

And just last year a Walmart "neighborhood market" (grocery-only) opened near me and I love it! Great prices, great food, employees are much nicer than the lifer union drones at the other groceries, and seem to enjoy their jobs. Best meat in town btw, at the best price.

Must drive the FAT-cat/greedy union bosses CRAZY!

It DOES... And it serves the lower income folks well. Which also drives them crazy.. I've discovered that WalMart knows how to bake bread. And sometimes (rarely) I'll drop in for a few things and pick up some. Which BTW is probably NOT made in China.. It probably employs a big regional baking business just to fill that supply channel.

But it's NOT a land issue.. It's a religious crusade of the leftist type that is keeping them out of neighborhoods where they could make a HUGE economic diff and solve some knotty social issues like prescription drugs and financial services..
 
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WalMart could pay them more so they could afford it but you oppose that because Walmart should be able to do what they want (which is not the issue)
The State could raise mw but you would oppose that because mw is for entry level workers (which is a lie but the point you would raise)

So there are fixes, it's just that you oppose or have opposed all the fixes. So you can crow about how things aren't fixed. See how that works. Break it, then complain about it being broken

ABSOLUTELY NONE of that would prevent those workers from qualifying for Medicaid or allow them to afford Health Insurance.. I can't afford health insurance anymore and may soon drop that $22K/year burden..

Are you not getting that point? Doesn't fix the problem.. Just gives YOU and mental midgets in Cali an excuse to rape WalMart..

Lower the health care costs which you also oppose. How many things are you going to oppose before you realize that you and your ilk are part of this problem? 5 things? 15?
 

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